It appears a bunch of military gentlemen decided last week to implement a personal wealth plan which involved the outright theft of Burundi itself.
If anyone sees General Godefroid Niyombare they should ring the Embassy of Burundi. Approaching the General himself would not be a wise move, he's probably nervous and it's quite likely his pay has been stopped.
Burundi coup bid: Some coup leaders arrested - BBC News
Fortunately, we don't do that sort of thing in the UK.
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Distressing news from Burundi
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The BBC discusses what persuaded the rebel Generals to attempt their coup in the first place. For some unfathomable reason there is no mention anywhere of US foreign policy. A rock has evidently been left unturned during their investigation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-32730682
Oddly enough it's mentioned elsewhere in passing:Opponents said Mr Nkurunziza's bid contravened the constitution, which states a president can only be elected to two terms. The president argued he was entitled to a third term because he was first appointed to the role by parliament in 2005, rather than elected.
The US reiterated its opposition to a third term. The bid "has and will continue to exacerbate instability, and potentially foment violence in the country," state department spokesman Jeff Rathke said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-32755709
I do wish they'd just mind their own business instead of instigating mass death. Burundi is not within your remit, you damnable rogues. Go home.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-32730682
Oddly enough it's mentioned elsewhere in passing:Opponents said Mr Nkurunziza's bid contravened the constitution, which states a president can only be elected to two terms. The president argued he was entitled to a third term because he was first appointed to the role by parliament in 2005, rather than elected.
The US reiterated its opposition to a third term. The bid "has and will continue to exacerbate instability, and potentially foment violence in the country," state department spokesman Jeff Rathke said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-32755709
I do wish they'd just mind their own business instead of instigating mass death. Burundi is not within your remit, you damnable rogues. Go home.
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Well, I can't imagine why the US would give a fig about a president in Burundi running for a third term.
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As I understand it, though, it's the matter of whether it's actually a 3rd term or not that's in question. The first 'term' was not an elected one, but placed there mid term by the party. He is, therefore, by rounding the figures down, claiming that this was not a full term & therefore he has only served 1 term. His opponents, on the other hand, are rounding the figures up, claiming it to be 2 full terms.
Personally, I believe that in a democracy it should be up to the people to decide how many terms a President can stand for (America, take note).
Personally, I believe that in a democracy it should be up to the people to decide how many terms a President can stand for (America, take note).
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LarsMac;1479264 wrote: Well, I can't imagine why the US would give a fig about a president in Burundi running for a third term.
Perhaps you could ask their State Department spokesman Jeff Rathke, I'm sure he has an answer. He didn't just comment on events, he reiterated. The US reiterated its opposition to a third term. The bid "has and will continue to exacerbate instability, and potentially foment violence in the country,"
He might not speak to you though, you may be too insignificant:The Office of Press Relations supports the President and Secretary of State by explaining the foreign policy of the United States and the positions of the Department of State to domestic and foreign journalists. Who else could we ask instead?
I'm sure Mr Rathke sleeps at night, but I also think that if he does it indicates a lack of moral backbone.
Perhaps you could ask their State Department spokesman Jeff Rathke, I'm sure he has an answer. He didn't just comment on events, he reiterated. The US reiterated its opposition to a third term. The bid "has and will continue to exacerbate instability, and potentially foment violence in the country,"
He might not speak to you though, you may be too insignificant:The Office of Press Relations supports the President and Secretary of State by explaining the foreign policy of the United States and the positions of the Department of State to domestic and foreign journalists. Who else could we ask instead?
I'm sure Mr Rathke sleeps at night, but I also think that if he does it indicates a lack of moral backbone.
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FourPart;1479269 wrote: As I understand it, though, it's the matter of whether it's actually a 3rd term or not that's in question. The first 'term' was not an elected one, but placed there mid term by the party. He is, therefore, by rounding the figures down, claiming that this was not a full term & therefore he has only served 1 term. His opponents, on the other hand, are rounding the figures up, claiming it to be 2 full terms.
Personally, I believe that in a democracy it should be up to the people to decide how many terms a President can stand for (America, take note).
Well, a constitutional question should be decided in the courts, not the streets. I guess people in our state department are entitled to their opinion. Whether the press should choose to post that opinion or not is another matter. And I doubt the guys' opinion was really any official message from the US gummint. And it certainly should not be taken as support for a revolt.
Of course this fellow has been running things for 10 years, now. Maybe he should give someone else a chance. But if the people want to vote for him again, what should we care?
Whatever that is all about, trying to overthrow what is, so far, the legal government is flat out treason. Shoot the bums.
Personally, I believe that in a democracy it should be up to the people to decide how many terms a President can stand for (America, take note).
Well, a constitutional question should be decided in the courts, not the streets. I guess people in our state department are entitled to their opinion. Whether the press should choose to post that opinion or not is another matter. And I doubt the guys' opinion was really any official message from the US gummint. And it certainly should not be taken as support for a revolt.
Of course this fellow has been running things for 10 years, now. Maybe he should give someone else a chance. But if the people want to vote for him again, what should we care?
Whatever that is all about, trying to overthrow what is, so far, the legal government is flat out treason. Shoot the bums.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
- DH Lawrence
Distressing news from Burundi
LarsMac;1479285 wrote: Well, a constitutional question should be decided in the courts, not the streets.
As indeed it was.They are unhappy that the constitutional court ruled that as Mr Nkurunziza was appointed by parliament in 2005 - and not directly elected - he could stand again.
Burundi: What is behind the coup bid? - BBC News
As indeed it was.They are unhappy that the constitutional court ruled that as Mr Nkurunziza was appointed by parliament in 2005 - and not directly elected - he could stand again.
Burundi: What is behind the coup bid? - BBC News
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So the protests led the traitors to think that they would have popular support if they moved to take over the government while the boss was out of town? Guess they should have gone out into the country and thought about it for a while.
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I can only presume they thought they had American backing if they succeeded, and took a speculative header. If you lined up all the post-war military coups that had American backing once they succeeded, you'd have a very long line of very nasty officers there.
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spot;1479289 wrote: I can only presume they thought they had American backing if they succeeded, and took a speculative header.
Well, as I said before. A US State official offering his opinion does not necessarily mean a commitment by the US. I am pretty sure we officially couldn't care less whether their president gets another term, or not.
Remember, Madeleine Albright once told Saddam Hussein that the US really didn't care if he beat up on Kuwait for stealing his oil. Look how THAT turned out.
Well, as I said before. A US State official offering his opinion does not necessarily mean a commitment by the US. I am pretty sure we officially couldn't care less whether their president gets another term, or not.
Remember, Madeleine Albright once told Saddam Hussein that the US really didn't care if he beat up on Kuwait for stealing his oil. Look how THAT turned out.
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LarsMac;1479291 wrote: Well, as I said before. A US State official offering his opinion does not necessarily mean a commitment by the US.At a Press Conference? I beg to differ, of course it does. A very public one. The chap's a spokesman, his voice is not his own, he speaks at press conferences as the official mouthpiece of the Department of State. That's his function, it's why he's paid.
As for Madeleine Albright, that was a plain and simple American knife in the back. State Department Speaks With Forked Tongue.
As for Madeleine Albright, that was a plain and simple American knife in the back. State Department Speaks With Forked Tongue.
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spot;1479292 wrote: At a Press Conference? I beg to differ, of course it does. A very public one. The chap's a spokesman, his voice is not his own, he speaks at press conferences as the official mouthpiece of the Department of State. That's his function, it's why he's paid.
As for Madeleine Albright, that was a plain and simple American knife in the back. State Department Speaks With Forked Tongue.
Mr Rathke also stated:
The United States supports the rule of law and opposes attempts to seize power unlawfully. The United States also believes the Arusha Agreement that ended Burundi’s horrific civil war must remain the foundation for the country’s stability and post-war reconciliation....
In fact, here is his entire official statement on the situation.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/05/242495.htm
The United States is alarmed by reports of retaliatory attacks in Burundi following the attempted unlawful seizure of power on May 13 and the growing risk of greater violence and atrocities. The United States urgently calls on President Nkurunziza to condemn and stop the use of violence by the police and the ruling party’s Imbonerakure youth militias against those who participated in protests against a third term. The United States strongly condemns all acts of violence and retribution against those who have participated in protests against a third term. Individuals who perpetrate or incite violence, or exact retribution against those who oppose a third term, should be held accountable.
The United States supports the rule of law and opposes attempts to seize power unlawfully. The United States also believes the Arusha Agreement that ended Burundi’s horrific civil war must remain the foundation for the country’s stability and post-war reconciliation. The decision by Burundian President Nkurunziza to disregard the Arusha Agreement to run for a third term also has created instability and violence.
The United States is taking steps to impose visa ineligibilities on those responsible for violence. We call on all other governments to do the same. The United States also stresses that, under U.S. law, we cannot provide military training or assistance to military units that commit gross violations of human rights. We support the recent decision by the African Union to delay the next deployment of Burundian troops to the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM), and note that continued instability and violence in Burundi, and in particular the commission of human rights abuses by security forces, could jeopardize Burundi’s ability to continue to contribute to the AMISOM peacekeeping mission.
The United States fully supports the mediation efforts of UN Special Envoy Said Djinnit and the African Union envoys in Bujumbura, as well as the efforts of the East African Community, the African Union, and the International Conference on the Great Lakes Region, aimed at bringing peace and stability to Burundi. We urge all stakeholders in Burundi to engage immediately and seriously in these mediation efforts.
The United States welcomes decisions by other donor partners to reduce or withdraw budget support and financial assistance to the Government of Burundi in response to the continuing instability and violence. We also appreciate the willingness of Tanzania, Rwanda, and the Democratic Republic of Congo to welcome the more than 100,000 Burundian refugees who have fled Burundi, and call on the Burundian government to remove roadblocks and other impediments that are preventing civilian populations from crossing into neighboring nations seeking safety.
We stand with the people of Burundi at this critical moment. We urgently call on the Burundian government to demonstrate, by its actions in the coming days, its commitment to a peaceful future for all the people of Burundi.
Nothing that could be remotely considered in support of an uprising or change of government in Burundi.
As for Madeleine Albright, that was a plain and simple American knife in the back. State Department Speaks With Forked Tongue.
Mr Rathke also stated:
The United States supports the rule of law and opposes attempts to seize power unlawfully. The United States also believes the Arusha Agreement that ended Burundi’s horrific civil war must remain the foundation for the country’s stability and post-war reconciliation....
In fact, here is his entire official statement on the situation.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/05/242495.htm
The United States is alarmed by reports of retaliatory attacks in Burundi following the attempted unlawful seizure of power on May 13 and the growing risk of greater violence and atrocities. The United States urgently calls on President Nkurunziza to condemn and stop the use of violence by the police and the ruling party’s Imbonerakure youth militias against those who participated in protests against a third term. The United States strongly condemns all acts of violence and retribution against those who have participated in protests against a third term. Individuals who perpetrate or incite violence, or exact retribution against those who oppose a third term, should be held accountable.
The United States supports the rule of law and opposes attempts to seize power unlawfully. The United States also believes the Arusha Agreement that ended Burundi’s horrific civil war must remain the foundation for the country’s stability and post-war reconciliation. The decision by Burundian President Nkurunziza to disregard the Arusha Agreement to run for a third term also has created instability and violence.
The United States is taking steps to impose visa ineligibilities on those responsible for violence. We call on all other governments to do the same. The United States also stresses that, under U.S. law, we cannot provide military training or assistance to military units that commit gross violations of human rights. We support the recent decision by the African Union to delay the next deployment of Burundian troops to the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM), and note that continued instability and violence in Burundi, and in particular the commission of human rights abuses by security forces, could jeopardize Burundi’s ability to continue to contribute to the AMISOM peacekeeping mission.
The United States fully supports the mediation efforts of UN Special Envoy Said Djinnit and the African Union envoys in Bujumbura, as well as the efforts of the East African Community, the African Union, and the International Conference on the Great Lakes Region, aimed at bringing peace and stability to Burundi. We urge all stakeholders in Burundi to engage immediately and seriously in these mediation efforts.
The United States welcomes decisions by other donor partners to reduce or withdraw budget support and financial assistance to the Government of Burundi in response to the continuing instability and violence. We also appreciate the willingness of Tanzania, Rwanda, and the Democratic Republic of Congo to welcome the more than 100,000 Burundian refugees who have fled Burundi, and call on the Burundian government to remove roadblocks and other impediments that are preventing civilian populations from crossing into neighboring nations seeking safety.
We stand with the people of Burundi at this critical moment. We urgently call on the Burundian government to demonstrate, by its actions in the coming days, its commitment to a peaceful future for all the people of Burundi.
Nothing that could be remotely considered in support of an uprising or change of government in Burundi.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
- DH Lawrence
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Mr Rathke is perhaps skilled in the use of weasel words. I would imagine it's a job requirement with a written exam to pass before he ever reached an interview stage. I expect he red those words at a gabbling pace at the end of the session the same way bank adverts warn you your investment value may go down as well as up the graphs displayed are for illustration only terms and conditions apply we may record your phone calls, emails and browsing history for training purposes this offer expires on July the 4th.
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spot;1479297 wrote: Mr Rathke is perhaps skilled in the use of weasel words. I would imagine it's a job requirement with a written exam to pass.
I am certain that such a requirement is global for diplomatic corps, regardless of the nation.
I am certain that such a requirement is global for diplomatic corps, regardless of the nation.
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LarsMac;1479295 wrote: The United States is taking steps to impose visa ineligibilities on those responsible for violence.
Hell, there goes the Marine Corps.
Hell, there goes the Marine Corps.
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spot;1479299 wrote: Hell, there goes the Marine Corps.
They are already here. They don't need visas
They are already here. They don't need visas
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LarsMac;1479295 wrote: In fact, here is his entire official statement on the situation.
I think you may have the wrong day's briefing. The one that carries the quotes I made is at Daily Press Briefing - May 15, 2015. I was interested to reed the follow-up though.
I think you may have the wrong day's briefing. The one that carries the quotes I made is at Daily Press Briefing - May 15, 2015. I was interested to reed the follow-up though.
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Such is usually the way with coups. A very small minority of wannabe Military Dictators taking over Elected Governments in the name of Democracy, and then instigating Military Rule, denying anyone the rights to vote for their Government of choice. All in the name of Democray. After all, how often are countries which call themselves "People's Republic", or "Free Republic" either of/for the people, or free?
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spot;1479303 wrote: I think you may have the wrong day's briefing. The one that carries the quotes I made is at Daily Press Briefing - May 15, 2015. I was interested to reed the follow-up though.
So do you find his reference to the arusha accords inaccurate? That seems to be the objection to the third term. Besides. If the people object to him standing for a third term, rather than throwing tantrums, should they not just produce another candidate. It is, after all, an election.
So do you find his reference to the arusha accords inaccurate? That seems to be the objection to the third term. Besides. If the people object to him standing for a third term, rather than throwing tantrums, should they not just produce another candidate. It is, after all, an election.
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LarsMac;1479305 wrote: So do you find his reference to the arusha accords inaccurate? That seems to be the objection to the third term. Besides. If the people object to him standing for a third term, rather than throwing tantrums, should they not just produce another candidate. It is, after all, an election.
If the accords say he can't be elected a third time then the President is entitled to stand, since he's only been elected once so far. If the accords say he can't serve a third term then he's wrong. My understanding is that the wording of the accord is "elected". We might look them up just to be certain though.
If the accords say he can't be elected a third time then the President is entitled to stand, since he's only been elected once so far. If the accords say he can't serve a third term then he's wrong. My understanding is that the wording of the accord is "elected". We might look them up just to be certain though.
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LarsMac;1479305 wrote: So do you find his reference to the arusha accords inaccurate?
I can see nothing in the accords which refer to the issue. If anyone can find what is being referred to, please post the quote.
The Burundi Constitution says:Article 96
The President of the Republic is elected by universal direct suffrage for five years renewable one time.
https://www.constituteproject.org/const ... i_2005.pdf
He was appointed initially by Parliament for five years, he was elected by universal direct suffrage for five years, he is seeking to renew the election by universal direct suffrage once. I would have called his position unassailable, myself, unless there's anything else which is relevant and I've not found.
I can see nothing in the accords which refer to the issue. If anyone can find what is being referred to, please post the quote.
The Burundi Constitution says:Article 96
The President of the Republic is elected by universal direct suffrage for five years renewable one time.
https://www.constituteproject.org/const ... i_2005.pdf
He was appointed initially by Parliament for five years, he was elected by universal direct suffrage for five years, he is seeking to renew the election by universal direct suffrage once. I would have called his position unassailable, myself, unless there's anything else which is relevant and I've not found.
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I didn't see much there, either. Boils down to a simple interpretation of the law.
So, again, if the people object, can they not simply put up another candidate?
So, again, if the people object, can they not simply put up another candidate?
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LarsMac;1479313 wrote:
So, again, if the people object, can they not simply put up another candidate?
That would seem the simplest solution to me. If he has the support he believes he has - no problem. If not - no problem. The country has an elected President for the next 5 year term.
It strikes me this is a matter of Militia rather than Democracy.
So, again, if the people object, can they not simply put up another candidate?
That would seem the simplest solution to me. If he has the support he believes he has - no problem. If not - no problem. The country has an elected President for the next 5 year term.
It strikes me this is a matter of Militia rather than Democracy.
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LarsMac;1479313 wrote: So, again, if the people object, can they not simply put up another candidate?I'm sure they can and ought. The electorate is split very much on tribal lines at the moment though.
"Tribal" is my candidate for the next majorly non-PC word to evolve out of what used to be called Language.
The supporters of sports teams are tribal.
The lawyer who drew up that section of the Burundi Constitution should be made to give his fee back, for ambiguity during the start-up phase.
"Tribal" is my candidate for the next majorly non-PC word to evolve out of what used to be called Language.
The supporters of sports teams are tribal.
The lawyer who drew up that section of the Burundi Constitution should be made to give his fee back, for ambiguity during the start-up phase.
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spot;1479318 wrote: I'm sure they can and ought. The electorate is split very much on tribal lines at the moment though.
"Tribal" is my candidate for the next majorly non-PC word to evolve out of what used to be called Language.
Tribalism is very much a Cultural thing, and as such it's something that PC would be more likely to defend.
"Tribal" is my candidate for the next majorly non-PC word to evolve out of what used to be called Language.
Tribalism is very much a Cultural thing, and as such it's something that PC would be more likely to defend.
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FourPart;1479304 wrote: Such is usually the way with coups. A very small minority of wannabe Military Dictators taking over Elected Governments in the name of Democracy, and then instigating Military Rule, denying anyone the rights to vote for their Government of choice. All in the name of Democray.
That's what we had when Generalissimo El Jefe Air Field Marshall Sisi OBE VC King of Scotland got the glad-hand of the American Administration and put the genuinely once-in-a-lifetime popularly democratically elected President of Egypt on death row.
That's what we had when Generalissimo El Jefe Air Field Marshall Sisi OBE VC King of Scotland got the glad-hand of the American Administration and put the genuinely once-in-a-lifetime popularly democratically elected President of Egypt on death row.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.