Tacoma teen kills herself days after 'shaming' video posted online of father cutting her hair
This follows a glut of 'humorous' shaming videos Age Lie Ducking school and the famous lawn mower over the video games that went viral.
The power of the internet is for good and bad.
Shaming suicide
Shaming suicide
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
Shaming suicide
Indeed.It's peer-pressure taken to another level. Very sad.
" To finish first, first you have to finish!" Rick Mears. 4x Winner Indy 500. 3x Indycar National Champion.
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I have a different perspective of suicide, but doubtful anyone would understand.
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Not quite sure how to respond to that, FourPart. I have sympathy for anyone who has been worn out by the iniquities of this sometimes wicked world we live in. One of the reasons my thread concentrates on the "wild-side" things that we do as a culture/race, a bit of light-hearted relief!
" To finish first, first you have to finish!" Rick Mears. 4x Winner Indy 500. 3x Indycar National Champion.
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FourPart;1480426 wrote: I have a different perspective of suicide, but doubtful anyone would understand.
You might be surprised.
You might be surprised.
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
Shaming suicide
Having attempted suicide many times myself I know how difficult it is to overcome that innate instinct of self preservation, and whilst in that state of despair knowing that you have failed to even successfully end it all merely adds to the despair. I, therefore, envy those who are successful & feel happy for them that they got what they wanted. Yes, the cause of having led to the ultimate outcome is sad, but I am remarking on the outcome, not the cause. Note also that this is not an argument as to the rights or wrongs of the situation. It is merely a statement of a mindset, as best I can describe it.
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FourPart;1480430 wrote: Having attempted suicide many times myself I know how difficult it is to overcome that innate instinct of self preservation, and whilst in that state of despair knowing that you have failed to even successfully end it all merely adds to the despair. I, therefore, envy those who are successful & feel happy for them that they got what they wanted. Yes, the cause of having led to the ultimate outcome is sad, but I am remarking on the outcome, not the cause. Note also that this is not an argument as to the rights or wrongs of the situation. It is merely a statement of a mindset, as best I can describe it.
Strangely I think I do understand, although I have never been in that darkest of places, your description makes a sort of sense.
If I was that way inclined I would pray that you never reach such depths, but if you do, you get whatever help that is needed.
Strangely I think I do understand, although I have never been in that darkest of places, your description makes a sort of sense.
If I was that way inclined I would pray that you never reach such depths, but if you do, you get whatever help that is needed.
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
Shaming suicide
FourPart;1480430 wrote: Having attempted suicide many times myself I know how difficult it is to overcome that innate instinct of self preservation, and whilst in that state of despair knowing that you have failed to even successfully end it all merely adds to the despair. I, therefore, envy those who are successful & feel happy for them that they got what they wanted. Yes, the cause of having led to the ultimate outcome is sad, but I am remarking on the outcome, not the cause. Note also that this is not an argument as to the rights or wrongs of the situation. It is merely a statement of a mindset, as best I can describe it.
I remember a time when a relationship ended years ago, and left me feeling like ending it in a high-speed death chase with the law, going out "in a blaze of glory." At the last moment, self preservation kicked in, and I survived almost certain death by a hair. I was arrested, charged(reckless driving;12 month ban, 500 quid fine, warned I might be "jugged" if I repeat...). End result; failed to die, banned for a year, poorer by 1/2 a grand. Felt worse than I did before!!
These days I just take each day as it comes, not expecting too much, thinking that there's always someone who's worse off. I have finally(I think), beaten my depression/bi-polar now.
I hope. I'm touched by how open you are on this most delicate of subjects.
I remember a time when a relationship ended years ago, and left me feeling like ending it in a high-speed death chase with the law, going out "in a blaze of glory." At the last moment, self preservation kicked in, and I survived almost certain death by a hair. I was arrested, charged(reckless driving;12 month ban, 500 quid fine, warned I might be "jugged" if I repeat...). End result; failed to die, banned for a year, poorer by 1/2 a grand. Felt worse than I did before!!
These days I just take each day as it comes, not expecting too much, thinking that there's always someone who's worse off. I have finally(I think), beaten my depression/bi-polar now.
I hope. I'm touched by how open you are on this most delicate of subjects.
" To finish first, first you have to finish!" Rick Mears. 4x Winner Indy 500. 3x Indycar National Champion.
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Mental Health Disorders are like any other disability. If they are concealed than other people feel uncomfortable with them, treading on eggshells trying to avoid the subject for fear of unintentionally saying something offensive. In actual fact, I'm the one that's more likely to do that, as I don't read people too well. I will often say things that, too me, have a perfectly valid & logical meaning & said with the best possible intentions, not realising that it may not be socially acceptable. I also have a tendency to think on a tangent without realising it (something I learned only a few weeks ago is professionally referred to "Knights Move Thinking", which describes it perfectly), then get puzzled why no-one seems to be on the same subject as me any more. I can't handle body language, but I can pick up on the tones of people's voices - it's like music to me. I guess that's why I love working on the phone lines.
The worst part when dealing with someone who doesn't understand the state of mind is when they take the "Pull Yourself Together" attitude. I understand what they mean, but they don't realise it's not as simple as that. Anyone who's been there will know that much only too well.
Walk a mile in someone else's shoes. Then you'll be a mile away - and you'll have their shoes.
The worst part when dealing with someone who doesn't understand the state of mind is when they take the "Pull Yourself Together" attitude. I understand what they mean, but they don't realise it's not as simple as that. Anyone who's been there will know that much only too well.
Walk a mile in someone else's shoes. Then you'll be a mile away - and you'll have their shoes.
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FourPart;1480445 wrote: Mental Health Disorders are like any other disability. If they are concealed than other people feel uncomfortable with them, treading on eggshells trying to avoid the subject for fear of unintentionally saying something offensive. In actual fact, I'm the one that's more likely to do that, as I don't read people too well. I will often say things that, too me, have a perfectly valid & logical meaning & said with the best possible intentions, not realising that it may not be socially acceptable. I also have a tendency to think on a tangent without realising it (something I learned only a few weeks ago is professionally referred to "Knights Move Thinking", which describes it perfectly), then get puzzled why no-one seems to be on the same subject as me any more. I can't handle body language, but I can pick up on the tones of people's voices - it's like music to me. I guess that's why I love working on the phone lines.
The worst part when dealing with someone who doesn't understand the state of mind is when they take the "Pull Yourself Together" attitude. I understand what they mean, but they don't realise it's not as simple as that. Anyone who's been there will know that much only too well.
Walk a mile in someone else's shoes. Then you'll be a mile away - and you'll have their shoes.
For my part, I really struggled with depression around the turn of the century. Couldn't see he point of continuing to struggle, continuing to be disappointed with people, attitudes, the world as a whole. Would have quite happily gone on a "one way ticket to Mars", or anywhere else! As for being unintentionally offensive, you've never offended me in any way, FourPart. It's comforting to me knowing that someone on this Forum understands FIRST-HAND what this feels like, rather than learning it from a textbook!
Keep trucking, buddy.
The worst part when dealing with someone who doesn't understand the state of mind is when they take the "Pull Yourself Together" attitude. I understand what they mean, but they don't realise it's not as simple as that. Anyone who's been there will know that much only too well.
Walk a mile in someone else's shoes. Then you'll be a mile away - and you'll have their shoes.
For my part, I really struggled with depression around the turn of the century. Couldn't see he point of continuing to struggle, continuing to be disappointed with people, attitudes, the world as a whole. Would have quite happily gone on a "one way ticket to Mars", or anywhere else! As for being unintentionally offensive, you've never offended me in any way, FourPart. It's comforting to me knowing that someone on this Forum understands FIRST-HAND what this feels like, rather than learning it from a textbook!
Keep trucking, buddy.
" To finish first, first you have to finish!" Rick Mears. 4x Winner Indy 500. 3x Indycar National Champion.