Jeremy Clarkson will not have his contract renewed by BBC.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:17 am

Well he's out !!! Today the BBC announced their final decision on the future of Jeremy Clarkson after Clarkson's admission that he had assaulted one of the producers of Top Gear at a hotel in Yorkshire, during a prolonged altercation between the two men. Another presenter had to pull Jeremy Clarkson off that producer to end the argument over the fact that no hot food was available for the team on their arrival at the hotel.

There's no doubt that Jeremy Clarkson was prepared to be 'sacked', and it would seem that both James May and Richard Hammond (his co-presenters) have said that they are prepared to leave the show too !

The BBC will loose around £120 million per year in revenue ! Top Gear has been the most successful programme for BBC2 ever. The world-wide sales of Top Gear have been phenomenal and Jeremy Clarkson's following is amazing.

As he is now a 'free' man, and possibly along with Capt. Slow and the Hamster, what's the betting that various other TV channels will be on the starting blocks to offer massive pay days to the team ? I hope they don't go to Sky because we can't get Sky ! :-1

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:35 am

Why can't you get Sky ?

I haven't got Sky but I can get it if I fork out some cash. I lied then........I have got Sky upstairs in the bedroom, it's only the basic one without subscription because I had a dish and box available and my wife likes to watch the religious nutters (sorry I mean evangelists) so I paid out a tenner some time ago (might have been twenty) but that is it, no more to pay.

I can see the whole program going off to the highest bidder, unless the BBC holds the legal hold on it.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:45 am

Bruv;1476622 wrote: Why can't you get Sky ?

I haven't got Sky but I can get it if I fork out some cash. I lied then........I have got Sky upstairs in the bedroom, it's only the basic one without subscription because I had a dish and box available and my wife likes to watch the religious nutters (sorry I mean evangelists) so I paid out a tenner some time ago (might have been twenty) but that is it, no more to pay.

I can see the whole program going off to the highest bidder, unless the BBC holds the legal hold on it.

I haven't got a Sky dish ! I won't pay for one either. When I can afford it I shall change to Virgin Media - one of their TV, Broadband, phone packages.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:49 am

I think the BBC own the rights to the top gear name Clarkson having sold it back to them.

Jeremy Clarkson sells Top Gear rights to BBC becoming millions of pounds richer - Mirror Online

It's mainly him that has revived it, that and the chemistry between the three presenters it's hard to quantify why it is so entertaining. There is the likes of fifth gear to compare it with which is frankly really boring in comparison although the format would seem to be the same and one or two others such as then american version that don't stand comparison either.

The three of them will probably do something else meanwhile those who want to se an end to the bbc have seen it lose a major source of revenue.

If Clarkson did assault the producer why has he not been charged with assault? Come to that the producer could have told him to **** off and walked away it takes two to have a confrontation in a work situation and a manager should have the skills to defuse a situation.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:07 am

G#Gill;1476623 wrote: I haven't got a Sky dish ! I won't pay for one either. When I can afford it I shall change to Virgin Media - one of their TV, Broadband, phone packages.

And you cannot better their Broadband, their telephone is OK, their TV basic is OK but the ability to record,pause, rewind etc. during a program is addictive.............I do it all the time, normally after asking the wife "Did you see that ?"

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:12 am

gmc;1476628 wrote: I think the BBC own the rights to the top gear name Clarkson having sold it back to them.

Jeremy Clarkson sells Top Gear rights to BBC becoming millions of pounds richer - Mirror Online

It's mainly him that has revived it, that and the chemistry between the three presenters it's hard to quantify why it is so entertaining. There is the likes of fifth gear to compare it with which is frankly really boring in comparison although the format would seem to be the same and one or two others such as then american version that don't stand comparison either.

The three of them will probably do something else meanwhile those who want to se an end to the bbc have seen it lose a major source of revenue.

If Clarkson did assault the producer why has he not been charged with assault? Come to that the producer could have told him to **** off and walked away it takes two to have a confrontation in a work situation and a manager should have the skills to defuse a situation.

I hadn't realised he had shares in it, so he is clever with it too.

I am with you about the chemistry, I am a non driver who is normally under whelmed by car talk and I enjoy the show.

Don't think it will matter what they call the show as long as the three of them are doing what they do in the old show.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:51 pm

G#Gill;1476620 wrote: Well he's out !!! Today the BBC announced their final decision on the future of Jeremy Clarkson after Clarkson's admission that he had assaulted one of the producers of Top Gear at a hotel in Yorkshire, during a prolonged altercation between the two men. Another presenter had to pull Jeremy Clarkson off that producer to end the argument over the fact that no hot food was available for the team on their arrival at the hotel.

There's no doubt that Jeremy Clarkson was prepared to be 'sacked', and it would seem that both James May and Richard Hammond (his co-presenters) have said that they are prepared to leave the show too !

The BBC will loose around £120 million per year in revenue ! Top Gear has been the most successful programme for BBC2 ever. The world-wide sales of Top Gear have been phenomenal and Jeremy Clarkson's following is amazing.

As he is now a 'free' man, and possibly along with Capt. Slow and the Hamster, what's the betting that various other TV channels will be on the starting blocks to offer massive pay days to the team ? I hope they don't go to Sky because we can't get Sky ! :-1

Am I allowed to cheer at this point?

The guy's an unmitigated boor who thinks he's clever - I, for one, will be glad to see the back of him.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:14 pm

Clarkson would immeasurably improve Songs Of Praise on BBC1, there's been too much piety since Sir Harry Secombe hid the Bishop's Crozier and got dismissed. I commend the notion to the house.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:36 pm

Bryn Mawr;1476640 wrote: Am I allowed to cheer at this point?

The guy's an unmitigated boor who thinks he's clever - I, for one, will be glad to see the back of him.

Of course cheer if you wish.

With the advent of smart TVs Digital TV TV recording devices of many kinds, it should be able to navigate through a full weeks constant viewing avoiding items or individuals you prefer not to see........surely.

And let those who worship at the feet of such a man watch him on repeat 24 hours a day.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:43 pm

Bruv;1476654 wrote: Of course cheer if you wish.

With the advent of smart TVs Digital TV TV recording devices of many kinds, it should be able to navigate through a full weeks constant viewing avoiding items or individuals you prefer not to see........surely.

And let those who worship at the feet of such a man watch him on repeat 24 hours a day.

Oh, I do avoid him - like the plague. What annoys me is the apparent adulation he receives.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:46 pm

It is amazing what is popular on TV.

Frightening, actually.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:08 pm

He is what I think they call a mans man. Somebody that farts in company for fun.

I actually detest that sort of person, but do find him very amusing as entertainment.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:02 am

Bryn Mawr;1476640 wrote: Am I allowed to cheer at this point?

The guy's an unmitigated boor who thinks he's clever - I, for one, will be glad to see the back of him.
I totally agree. I think it's disgraceful that they even gave it so much consideration. He's been known to have had official warnings by the BBC before & has simply thumbed his nose at them, believing himself to be above them. If he were in any other job, along with the rest of us menials, it would have meant instant dismissal & he wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.

Regrettably, as for his future, the disgusting thing is that the whole incident will ensure his future among the other companys, as it will be seen as a matter of PR (no publicity is bad publicity), unless they, too, take a moral stand (yeah, right).

As for the name "Top Gear", so maybe the BBC hold the rights to the name - not that that will bother other countries' copyright laws, but even if they don't use the name there's nothing to stop anyone else taking him on & using the same format, only calling it soemthing like "Top Speed", or "Three Men & a Twat".

Post by **spot** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:23 am

It ought to be said, though, that getting just sandwiches instead of a hot meal at the end of a day's outdoor work on location is pretty paltry. One can easily see why the chap was miffed. Marlon Brando never had to put up with nonsense like that.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:42 am

spot;1476703 wrote: It ought to be said, though, that getting just sandwiches instead of a hot meal at the end of a day's outdoor work on location is pretty paltry. One can easily see why the chap was miffed. Marlon Brando never had to put up with nonsense like that.
Why should the licence payer be expected to pay for his hot dinners as well? It's not as if he can't afford to send out for a pizza.

Post by **spot** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:56 pm

FourPart;1476733 wrote: Why should the licence payer be expected to pay for his hot dinners as well? It's not as if he can't afford to send out for a pizza.

It's the lack of organizing of those responsible for organizing, not the question of who picks up the tab.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:18 pm

spot;1476758 wrote: It's the lack of organizing of those responsible for organizing, not the question of who picks up the tab.

You do not respond to poor organization (and it wasn't even that, it was an unavoidable delay) with a tirade of abuse and physical assault - in which other job would the bosses have hesitated for a second before starting the instant dismissal process.

Post by **spot** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:26 pm

Bryn Mawr;1476762 wrote: You do not respond to poor organization (and it wasn't even that, it was an unavoidable delay) with a tirade of abuse and physical assault - in which other job would the bosses have hesitated for a second before starting the instant dismissal process.I have nowhere defended Mr Clarkson's action, I have merely said that "one can easily see why the chap was miffed".

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:43 am

spot;1476764 wrote: I have nowhere defended Mr Clarkson's action, I have merely said that "one can easily see why the chap was miffed".
Which seems to be justifying his actions.

Post by **spot** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:38 am

FourPart;1476793 wrote: Which seems to be justifying his actions.

It doesn't in the slightest. Unlike Alice, I mean what I say and I also say what I mean. Neither ambiguity nor error are salient features of my constitution.

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:16 pm

FourPart;1476793 wrote: Which seems to be justifying his actions.

Please explain how being able to identify the causal chain justifies the action.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:21 pm

Well, you can understand why Hitler was a bit miffed at what was done to Germany to cause him to initiate the Holocaust.

Yeah, well, what he did was wrong, but... understandable?

Post by **spot** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:29 pm

FourPart;1476821 wrote: Well, you can understand why Hitler was a bit miffed at what was done to Germany to cause him to initiate the Holocaust.

Yeah, well, what he did was wrong, but... understandable?

Despite having red Mein Kampf in translation, I still don't know why Hitler initiated the Holocaust. His distaste for, and disapproval of, European Jewry and his attempt to blame the Jews for the loss of World War I doesn't provide an adequate reason. Were I asked I'd say he and those other anti-Semites surrounding him egged each other on until the policy was agreed - and yes, the policy was undoubtedly agreed - but that's only a guess on my part, it's nowhere documented that I know of. In particular it's most certainly not documented in the Wannsee minutes, Kenneth Branagh's "Conspiracy" is so much a dreadful extrapolation of the historical evidence that I'd call it propaganda rather than documentary, I was appalled when I saw how much they'd invented toward the end for dramatic purposes.

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:43 pm

FourPart;1476821 wrote: Well, you can understand why Hitler was a bit miffed at what was done to Germany to cause him to initiate the Holocaust.

Yeah, well, what he did was wrong, but... understandable?

One does not need to be sympathetic to understand how something came about.

And it is certainly understandable why the guy was pissed, but being pissed about not have a hot meal hardly justifies beating up on your co-worker.

Post by **spot** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:43 am

The Comrades in the old USSR have always had that deadpan sense of humour...The Russian Armed Forces Broadcasting Company, known as Zvezda, has invited him to present their motoring television show.

In a statement on its website, the company says it "expresses deep honour" to Clarkson and "kindly asks for cooperation". The firm has asked him to travel to Moscow to "discuss all the details".

Jeremy Clarkson has been offered a new job but it's in Russia - BBC Newsbeat

eta: looking at their website using Google Translate, they're milking this tale for all they're worth...Actor Stephen Fry replace Jeremy Clarkson in the program Top Gear. According to the newspaper Daily Mail, actor - not the typical automotive expert. But he restrained, polite, well known, so it can bring the show to a new level of popularity.

In favor of candidates Fry played another important circumstance. He - a passionate collector of British classic cars.

Recall, the former leading Top Gear - Jeremy Clarkson - was removed from the ether because of the scandal with the producer. Unemployed Clarkson offer of cooperation made the Russian TV channel "Star". For a recognized expert in the world of automotive engineering are ready to run the show "Jeremy rules".

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... t=&act=url

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:47 am

spot;1476851 wrote: The Comrades in the old USSR have always had that deadpan sense of humour...The Russian Armed Forces Broadcasting Company, known as Zvezda, has invited him to present their motoring television show.

In a statement on its website, the company says it "expresses deep honour" to Clarkson and "kindly asks for cooperation". The firm has asked him to travel to Moscow to "discuss all the details".

Jeremy Clarkson has been offered a new job but it's in Russia - BBC Newsbeat

I imagine that the BBC had great delight in reporting that snippet :wah:

Post by **spot** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:09 am

Bryn Mawr;1476853 wrote: I imagine that the BBC had great delight in reporting that snippet :wah:

I bet they did, too.

There's a clip on Youtube - linked from that Russian news site in their "No Comment" section - which would almost do for a Top Gear story. A gate guardian tank from the 1940s (I have my doubts, I'd have said 60s), and some lads seeing whether it was really stripped down before being left there sixty years ago...

eta: this may in fact be a Russian pastime - if you skip ten minutes into they do startling things.

Post by **spot** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:41 am

The odious and singularly repellent Chris Evans has replaced Mr Clarkson.

Jeremy Clarkson was, if compared with Mr Evans, a likeable sort of chap who would have made a respectable Archbishop of Canterbury, a television presenter whose integrity was undoubtable. Mr Evans is not fit to clip his toenails.

TV and radio presenter Chris Evans will be the new Top Gear presenter, the BBC has announced.

Evans said he was "thrilled" to get the job as the show was his "favourite programme of all time".

Chris Evans to be new Top Gear presenter - BBC News

Smaug · Post by **Smaug** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:03 pm

spot;1480732 wrote: The odious and singularly repellent Chris Evans has replaced Mr Clarkson.

Jeremy Clarkson was, if compared with Mr Evans, a likeable sort of chap who would have made a respectable Archbishop of Canterbury, a television presenter whose integrity was undoubtable. Mr Evans is not fit to clip his toenails.

TV and radio presenter Chris Evans will be the new Top Gear presenter, the BBC has announced.

Evans said he was "thrilled" to get the job as the show was his "favourite programme of all time".

Chris Evans to be new Top Gear presenter - BBC News

Don't think I'll be watching Top Gear again, then. Sure, Jezza was a show-off and highly opinionated, but he's a likeable fellow for all that, and has far more personality than Evans!

Post by **Betty Boop** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:04 pm

I like Chris Evans.

Post by **spot** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:14 pm

Betty Boop;1480737 wrote: I like Chris Evans.

Your taste in men is obviously questionable.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:35 pm

Well sorry, but I think both are extremely good broadcasters and likable in their own way

Post by **Betty Boop** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:05 pm

Bruv;1480747 wrote: Well sorry, but I think both are extremely good broadcasters and likable in their own way

Bruv, you and I are evidently the only peeps with taste around here :wah:

Post by **Betty Boop** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:08 pm

I loved TFI Friday and The Big Breakfast. Both were hilarious.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:12 pm

Betty Boop;1480756 wrote: I loved TFI Friday and The Big Breakfast. Both were hilarious.

So we are, did you catch the latest TFI ?

Post by **Betty Boop** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:14 pm

Bruv;1480759 wrote: So we are, did you catch the latest TFI ?

No! I'm too suckered into BB right now but I intend watching on 4od as soon as I can.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:25 pm

Betty Boop;1480760 wrote: No! I'm too suckered into BB right now but I intend watching on 4od as soon as I can.

Brigitte Bardot is vastly over rated :yh_rotfl

Post by **Betty Boop** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:47 pm

Bruv;1480764 wrote: Brigitte Bardot is over vastly rated :yh_rotfl

As is Helen Wood! What a horrible woman.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:29 pm

Betty Boop;1480765 wrote: As is Helen Wood! What a horrible woman.

I had to Google that.....................none the wiser

This year my plan is working, I haven't even been tempted, and that Google result has strengthened my resolve.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:33 pm

I reckon even Graham Norton would make a far better host. Clarkson was simply repulsive. Even if I were a Patrol Head I would avoid any shows hosted by him as his entire arrogant attitude gets me riled. It took the BBC far too long to get rid of him.

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:51 am

I can quite easily explain why I despise Chris Evans. He's in the same zone as Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand, irretrievably as far as I'm concerned. To quote whatever website I pulled the words from, "TFI was infamous for its foul language" and that was entirely down to Mr Evans, including the disgusting and unavoidable name of the wretched program. They're all three of them disrespectful turds.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:52 am

spot;1480785 wrote: I can quite easily explain why I despise Chris Evans. He's in the same zone as Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand, irretrievably as far as I'm concerned. To quote whatever website I pulled the words from, "TFI was infamous for its foul language" and that was entirely down to Mr Evans, including the disgusting and unavoidable name of the wretched program. They're all three of them disrespectful turds.

I'd take Chris over Rossy any day. Brand I'm not decided about, but he doesn't bother me enough to rant over it.

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:56 am

You choose to differentiate them, to apply a scale of some sort. I just see all three as totally unacceptable participants in any public area by reason of their past behaviour. The only way any of them will no longer annoy me is if they succeed in hiding their existence for the rest of their lives. That does not include appearing on television or broadcasting on the radio. If someone wants respect they have to give respect. These three failed, they can have nothing to recommend them at all.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:38 am

spot;1480785 wrote: I can quite easily explain why I despise Chris Evans. He's in the same zone as Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand, irretrievably as far as I'm concerned. To quote whatever website I pulled the words from, "TFI was infamous for its foul language" and that was entirely down to Mr Evans, including the disgusting and unavoidable name of the wretched program. They're all three of them disrespectful turds.

Then.....I suspect you can add another of my heroes to your list, Frankie Boyle ?

My take on these people is that a level of disrespect for authority and the status quo is healthy. The fact that they can shock, makes us rethink our own boundaries. (a bit deep for me) As irritating as they can be at times, they are entertainers not political or religious leaders, and I reckon there is a time and and a place for dropping bad words/attitudes into conversation........none of these people come uninvited into your home.

And I am one of the mildest spoken, non swearing people you might ever meet, I do however have my moments.

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:48 am

Bruv;1480799 wrote: Then.....I suspect you can add another of my heroes to your list, Frankie Boyle ?I have, thankfully, never heard of the chap, though given the state of my memory I'll need to check... back in a minute.

He was mentioned three years ago and I looked him up - see, there was a niggling in my mind about this and I checked.

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/gener ... ost1402631

What I said then was "It turns out to be some dyspeptic nonentity from Belfast of whom I've never heard. Why's that news at all? He's evidently a talentless git, leave him to drown in his own obscurity". Nothing's changed since.

Bruv;1480799 wrote: My take on these people is that a level of disrespect for authority and the status quo is healthy.

The disrespect I had in mind from Ross and Brand was shown toward Andrew Sachs and his granddaughter - neither could be called an authority figure or the status quo. That by Evans was shown against the British public en masse. Nobody is going to foist a program on national TV with "TFI" in its name and ever appear clean, untarnished or unpolluted again. The man rolled naked in sewage for money and it won't wash off.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:20 am

Boyle is from Glasgow.

The Sachs saga was a lads joke that went very wrong.

In the right place,off air in a public bar.........mildly humorous......on a radio program extremely poor taste and badly judged.

And blown out of proportion by the bandwagon jumper onners from East Cheam.

The majority never knew Wossy had a radio program let alone listened to it.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:25 pm

Well, Im with Bruv and Betty. I like Clarkson and Evans. Top Gear is no place for blandness.

Now, Piers Morgan and Jeremy Kyle...

I'd need to be restrained from giving both of them a slap

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:46 pm

Snowfire;1480815 wrote: Well, Im with Bruv and Betty. I like Clarkson and Evans. Top Gear is no place for blandness.

Now, Piers Morgan and Jeremy Kyle...

I'd need to be restrained from giving both of them a slap
Careful - they won't renew your contract with FG.

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:35 pm

Bruv;1480807 wrote: In the right place,off air in a public bar.........mildly humorous......on a radio program extremely poor taste and badly judged.It makes no difference whether they did what they did on a national broadcast channel or hiding under a blanket together in a Limehouse opium den over a crackly landline using a pulse-dial 1950s Disneyphone, it was an obscenely cruel act. It is not the dissemination of the event to millions of people I object to, it's the act's performance in the first place. Having it observed is a trivial add-on.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:10 pm

Snowfire;1480815 wrote: Well, Im with Bruv and Betty. I like Clarkson and Evans. Top Gear is no place for blandness.

Now, Piers Morgan and Jeremy Kyle...

I'd need to be restrained from giving both of them a slap

Hold up........I never said I liked them. I don't dislike them, mind.

I don't particularly have to 'like' people in depth, just enjoy their efforts to entertain me, and when it gets too much, I change channels, withdraw my support so to speak.

I find Clarkson very entertaining, mildly irritating much of the time, but always value for money, don't know if I would make him my best mate.