I really can't help wondering if it's a co-incidence that the Goddess of Water is ISIS.
UK waterpark bans bikinis and orders visitors to cover up | UK | News | Daily Express
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Not exactly a truthful headline is it.
Its a suggestion for isolated days for women only bathing that would include Muslim women.
There is no suggestion of blanket bans as the headline implies. No orders have been issued as the headline implies.
As usual it is appallingly poor reporting from The Express.
Its a suggestion for isolated days for women only bathing that would include Muslim women.
There is no suggestion of blanket bans as the headline implies. No orders have been issued as the headline implies.
As usual it is appallingly poor reporting from The Express.
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Snowfire;1480622 wrote: Not exactly a truthful headline is it.
Its a suggestion for isolated days for women only bathing that would include Muslim women.
There is no suggestion of blanket bans as the headline implies. No orders have been issued as the headline implies.
As usual it is appallingly poor reporting from The Express.
Imagine the potential furore if there was a Christian-only event...
And everyone had to "wear appropriate Christian clothing".
Would accusations of racism, or religious prejudice be bandied about?
Still, if enough people want a certain type of event/entertainment why not capitalize on that market segment. It doesn't bother me.
Its a suggestion for isolated days for women only bathing that would include Muslim women.
There is no suggestion of blanket bans as the headline implies. No orders have been issued as the headline implies.
As usual it is appallingly poor reporting from The Express.
Imagine the potential furore if there was a Christian-only event...
And everyone had to "wear appropriate Christian clothing".
Would accusations of racism, or religious prejudice be bandied about?
Still, if enough people want a certain type of event/entertainment why not capitalize on that market segment. It doesn't bother me.
" To finish first, first you have to finish!" Rick Mears. 4x Winner Indy 500. 3x Indycar National Champion.
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Smaug;1480624 wrote: Imagine the potential furore if there was a Christian-only event...
And everyone had to "wear appropriate Christian clothing".
Would accusations of racism, or religious prejudice be bandied about?
Still, if enough people want a certain type of event/entertainment why not capitalize on that market segment. It doesn't bother me.
My problem is, the headline states that bikinis have been banned. They havent. Visitors have been ordered to cover up. They havent. It the usual Express/Mail type headline that has little to do with the actual report.
I don't see a problem, if there is a need for such women only sessions with particular rules on dress. It doesnt affect the usual running of the pool and the wearing of bikinis
And everyone had to "wear appropriate Christian clothing".
Would accusations of racism, or religious prejudice be bandied about?
Still, if enough people want a certain type of event/entertainment why not capitalize on that market segment. It doesn't bother me.
My problem is, the headline states that bikinis have been banned. They havent. Visitors have been ordered to cover up. They havent. It the usual Express/Mail type headline that has little to do with the actual report.
I don't see a problem, if there is a need for such women only sessions with particular rules on dress. It doesnt affect the usual running of the pool and the wearing of bikinis
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
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Snowfire;1480627 wrote: My problem is, the headline states that bikinis have been banned. They havent. Visitors have been ordered to cover up. They havent. It the usual Express/Mail type headline that has little to do with the actual report.
I don't see a problem, if there is a need for such women only sessions with particular rules on dress. It doesnt affect the usual running of the pool and the wearing of bikinis
Typical "journo" incompetence/ lack of research/ inattention or bias. Millions of examples out there!
I don't see a problem, if there is a need for such women only sessions with particular rules on dress. It doesnt affect the usual running of the pool and the wearing of bikinis
Typical "journo" incompetence/ lack of research/ inattention or bias. Millions of examples out there!
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The notice pictured does specify that clothing must be "Culturally & Islamically Approriate" though.
If it was just a Women's only night I wouldn't have any problem with it. However, despite the quote being made saying "This is a female-only event and is not specific to any ethnic or religious group", the advertising placard doesn't echo this in any way whatsoever. It is clearly directed to Islam. That much is not a matter of biased spin on the part of the Express. That much is an illustrated fact.
If it was just a Women's only night I wouldn't have any problem with it. However, despite the quote being made saying "This is a female-only event and is not specific to any ethnic or religious group", the advertising placard doesn't echo this in any way whatsoever. It is clearly directed to Islam. That much is not a matter of biased spin on the part of the Express. That much is an illustrated fact.
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Even if it is directed toward Muslim women, its a private session and would not impact on the rest of us enjoying our normal sessions at all.
I would be free to wear my mankini, Im sure
I would be free to wear my mankini, Im sure
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What about toddler and mother swimming sessions where no one without a toddler is admitted ?
What about Men only clubs ?
What about Men only clubs ?
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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FourPart;1480631 wrote: The notice pictured does specify that clothing must be "Culturally & Islamically Approriate" though.
If it was just a Women's only night I wouldn't have any problem with it. However, despite the quote being made saying "This is a female-only event and is not specific to any ethnic or religious group", the advertising placard doesn't echo this in any way whatsoever. It is clearly directed to Islam. That much is not a matter of biased spin on the part of the Express. That much is an illustrated fact.
If there are enough Muslim women out there to give a decent attendance, and these same women feel uncomfortable with western dress, then I have no complaints on that score. Sure, the Express may have got it right, insomuch as it was "appropriate Muslim dress", but it's only equivalent to having a "Children-only" event, or a "senior swimmers" event, IMO.
If it was just a Women's only night I wouldn't have any problem with it. However, despite the quote being made saying "This is a female-only event and is not specific to any ethnic or religious group", the advertising placard doesn't echo this in any way whatsoever. It is clearly directed to Islam. That much is not a matter of biased spin on the part of the Express. That much is an illustrated fact.
If there are enough Muslim women out there to give a decent attendance, and these same women feel uncomfortable with western dress, then I have no complaints on that score. Sure, the Express may have got it right, insomuch as it was "appropriate Muslim dress", but it's only equivalent to having a "Children-only" event, or a "senior swimmers" event, IMO.
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Smaug;1480634 wrote: If there are enough Muslim women out there to give a decent attendance, and these same women feel uncomfortable with western dress, then I have no complaints on that score. Sure, the Express may have got it right, insomuch as it was "appropriate Muslim dress", but it's only equivalent to having a "Children-only" event, or a "senior swimmers" event, IMO.
It would be no different to having a "Whites Only" night either - and that definitely wouldn't be tolerated.
Segregation by gender is one thing. Segregation by Culture & Religion is an entirely different matter. They may say that it's not ethnically specific, but you have to wear Islamic dress.
In the words of Henry Ford "Any colour you like, as long as it's black".
It would be no different to having a "Whites Only" night either - and that definitely wouldn't be tolerated.
Segregation by gender is one thing. Segregation by Culture & Religion is an entirely different matter. They may say that it's not ethnically specific, but you have to wear Islamic dress.
In the words of Henry Ford "Any colour you like, as long as it's black".
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FourPart;1480641 wrote: It would be no different to having a "Whites Only" night either - and that definitely wouldn't be tolerated.
Segregation by gender is one thing. Segregation by Culture & Religion is an entirely different matter. They may say that it's not ethnically specific, but you have to wear Islamic dress.
In the words of Henry Ford "Any colour you like, as long as it's black".
Having a "Whites only" session is not the same at all. Women and specifically Muslim women require an environment that would make them feel comfortable in their surroundings. It's providing a right and proper service to those who cannot normally join in
Segregation by gender is one thing. Segregation by Culture & Religion is an entirely different matter. They may say that it's not ethnically specific, but you have to wear Islamic dress.
In the words of Henry Ford "Any colour you like, as long as it's black".
Having a "Whites only" session is not the same at all. Women and specifically Muslim women require an environment that would make them feel comfortable in their surroundings. It's providing a right and proper service to those who cannot normally join in
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
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I find it hard to take anything on that site seriously.
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Smaug;1480628 wrote: Typical "journo" incompetence/ lack of research/ inattention or bias. Millions of examples out there!
For the journalist it is a successful headline - it drags people in to read the article and therefore increases circulation. Truth and integrity have very little to do with it.
For the journalist it is a successful headline - it drags people in to read the article and therefore increases circulation. Truth and integrity have very little to do with it.
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Bryn Mawr;1480810 wrote: For the journalist it is a successful headline - it drags people in to read the article and therefore increases circulation. Truth and integrity have very little to do with it.
It's a game they play.
We can refuse to play along.......................some of us get it.........others don't.......no names no pack drill.
It's a game they play.
We can refuse to play along.......................some of us get it.........others don't.......no names no pack drill.
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Bryn Mawr;1480810 wrote: For the journalist it is a successful headline - it drags people in to read the article and therefore increases circulation. Truth and integrity have very little to do with it.
Especially if the money made by extra copy sold substantially exceeds damages fines...
Especially if the money made by extra copy sold substantially exceeds damages fines...
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Smaug;1480841 wrote: Especially if the money made by extra copy sold substantially exceeds damages fines...
And how often do they get fined?
And how often do they get fined?
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Bryn Mawr;1481227 wrote: And how often do they get fined?
Exactly! It's a "no-brainer".
Exactly! It's a "no-brainer".
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