UK to ban Donald Trump petition numbers grow. Trump will be pleased with his new Engl

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

UK to ban Donald Trump petition numbers grow. Trump will be pleased with his new English groupies.

The UK has signed up about on their ban Trump petition. That means that 300,000 have the same ideology as Trump of closing the borders to some people.

Trump will be pleased that he has fans of his policies in the UK.

Regards

DL

[Bryn Mawr]

Gnostic Christian Bishop;1490526 wrote: UK to ban Donald Trump petition numbers grow. Trump will be pleased with his new English groupies.

The UK has signed up about on their ban Trump petition. That means that 300,000 have the same ideology as Trump of closing the borders to some people.

Trump will be pleased that he has fans of his policies in the UK.

Regards

DL




What a strange spin you put on the situation - there is a massive difference between declaring an individual persona non grata and closing your boarders to a billion people due to their religious beliefs.

The first is an expression of rejection for the actions that individual has taken and the statements he has made whereas the second is a bigoted tarring of a large proportion of the world's population with the brush of fanaticism - trying to label them all as fundamentalist terrorists. It is also a total failure as a policy - contrary to Trump's apparent belief, you cannot tell a Muslim just by looking at him.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Bryn Mawr;1490528 wrote: What a strange spin you put on the situation - there is a massive difference between declaring an individual persona non grata and closing your boarders to a billion people due to their religious beliefs.

The first is an expression of rejection for the actions that individual has taken and the statements he has made whereas the second is a bigoted tarring of a large proportion of the world's population with the brush of fanaticism - trying to label them all as fundamentalist terrorists. It is also a total failure as a policy - contrary to Trump's apparent belief, you cannot tell a Muslim just by looking at him.


"The first is an expression of rejection for the actions that individual has taken and the statements he has made"

I agree.

"the second is a bigoted tarring of a large proportion of the world's population with the brush of fanaticism"

Perhaps but the result is both Trump and those who are signing the petition end in using the exact same methods of banning the ones they do not want in their country. Just the numbers are different.

It both the petition group and Trump had the power to do as they wanted, the laws written would look almost identical.



Regards

DL

[Bryn Mawr]

Gnostic Christian Bishop;1490532 wrote: "The first is an expression of rejection for the actions that individual has taken and the statements he has made"

I agree.

"the second is a bigoted tarring of a large proportion of the world's population with the brush of fanaticism"

Perhaps but the result is both Trump and those who are signing the petition end in using the exact same methods of banning the ones they do not want in their country. Just the numbers are different.

It both the petition group and Trump had the power to do as they wanted, the laws written would look almost identical.



Regards

DL


You really do not see the difference between a targeted exclusion of a rogue individual and the broadscale exclusion of a complete group due to the actions of a small minority within that group do you - they are worlds apart.

BTW, banning Trump would not require a law to be passed, the law allowing the country to declare an individual person non grata already exists and looks nothing like a law defining a group of people and collectively excluding them.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Bryn Mawr;1490541 wrote: You really do not see the difference between a targeted exclusion of a rogue individual and the broadscale exclusion of a complete group due to the actions of a small minority within that group do you - they are worlds apart.

BTW, banning Trump would not require a law to be passed, the law allowing the country to declare an individual person non grata already exists and looks nothing like a law defining a group of people and collectively excluding them.


A small minority?

Did you look at the stats I put up as a part of that link?

3/4 of all Muslims are unworthy to live under the freedoms our forefathers died for and which most Muslims hate.

As that song says, they would bite the hand that feeds them.

Regards

DL

[Bryn Mawr]

Gnostic Christian Bishop;1490543 wrote: A small minority?

Did you look at the stats I put up as a part of that link?

3/4 of all Muslims are unworthy to live under the freedoms our forefathers died for and which most Muslims hate.

As that song says, they would bite the hand that feeds them.

Regards

DL


Absolute and utter rubbish

[AnneBoleyn]

Bryn Mawr;1490541 wrote:

BTW, banning Trump would not require a law to be passed, the law allowing the country to declare an individual person non grata already exists and looks nothing like a law defining a group of people and collectively excluding them.


The amount of petitioners signing means your gov't must look at the issue, but do you think your gov't would necessarily agree to ban him? What's your opinion?

[Bryn Mawr]

AnneBoleyn;1490551 wrote: The amount of petitioners signing means your gov't must look at the issue, but do you think your gov't would necessarily agree to ban him? What's your opinion?


Not a cat in hells chance - the petition is there as a safety valve, not to achieve any real purpose.

Cynic? Moi??

[FourPart]

Regardless of how obnoxious Trump may be (and who can take him seriously when his very name is a pseudonym for breaking wind), he is cleverly using the hatred towards Daesh to tar real Muslims with the same brush, and with America being such a racist country already, he's got a head start & just needs to play on it. The more he gets the Americans riled, the more chance he has of fixing the election in his favour. That's when the real fun begins. Can you really imagine, in the case of him getting the Presidency, the possibility of banning the President of the USA from Britain, despite the UK probably being his biggest military ally / puppet? Cameron, has thus far been kow-towing to Chinese leaders, selling off deals to a country notorious for Human Rights abuses. The same with Saudi - not only regarding Human Rights, but selling them arms, which then get passed on to Daesh, who then get to use them against us, thus increasing a demand for more trade with Saudi (etc). With a record such as this, to really believe that Trump will get banned is laughable.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Bryn Mawr;1490546 wrote: Absolute and utter rubbish


Nice argument.

Rather devoid of facts though.

Regards

DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

FourPart;1490563 wrote: Regardless of how obnoxious Trump may be (and who can take him seriously when his very name is a pseudonym for breaking wind), he is cleverly using the hatred towards Daesh to tar real Muslims with the same brush, and with America being such a racist country already, he's got a head start & just needs to play on it. The more he gets the Americans riled, the more chance he has of fixing the election in his favour. That's when the real fun begins. Can you really imagine, in the case of him getting the Presidency, the possibility of banning the President of the USA from Britain, despite the UK probably being his biggest military ally / puppet? Cameron, has thus far been kow-towing to Chinese leaders, selling off deals to a country notorious for Human Rights abuses. The same with Saudi - not only regarding Human Rights, but selling them arms, which then get passed on to Daesh, who then get to use them against us, thus increasing a demand for more trade with Saudi (etc). With a record such as this, to really believe that Trump will get banned is laughable.


Correct.

The oligarch owners of the three countries you name are likely the same person or coalition of persons.

Regards

DL