Today is Armed Forces Day, I discovered this morning there has been one since 2006.
Am I alone in finding a subtle change in the British view of our armed forces ?
I find it just slightly disturbing.
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I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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You missed National Cream Tea Day yesterday.
I'd not call it subtle at all, it's Tommy-can-do-no-wrong adulation in the worst possible taste without the slightest justification.
I'd not call it subtle at all, it's Tommy-can-do-no-wrong adulation in the worst possible taste without the slightest justification.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1497704 wrote: You missed National Cream Tea Day yesterday.
I'd not call it subtle at all, it's Tommy-can-do-no-wrong adulation in the worst possible taste without the slightest justification.
You think that's something - this one's been going since 1995. Not Tommy, but Jack.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Masturbation_Day
I'd not call it subtle at all, it's Tommy-can-do-no-wrong adulation in the worst possible taste without the slightest justification.
You think that's something - this one's been going since 1995. Not Tommy, but Jack.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Masturbation_Day
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spot;1497704 wrote: You missed National Cream Tea Day yesterday.
I'd not call it subtle at all, it's Tommy-can-do-no-wrong adulation in the worst possible taste without the slightest justification.
But is it the cream or jam on first?
The Royal British Legion is dwindling, I'm guessing they are trying to bolster it with Armed Forces theme.
I'd not call it subtle at all, it's Tommy-can-do-no-wrong adulation in the worst possible taste without the slightest justification.
But is it the cream or jam on first?
The Royal British Legion is dwindling, I'm guessing they are trying to bolster it with Armed Forces theme.
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It's a sibtle way of conflating criticism of our foreign policy such as invasion of iraq, afghanistan etc etc with criticism of our armed forces. If you criticise going to war you are not supporting the armed forces who are after all protecting us etc etc. .
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gmc;1497796 wrote: It's a sibtle way of conflating criticism of our foreign policy such as invasion of iraq, afghanistan etc etc with criticism of our armed forces. If you criticise going to war you are not supporting the armed forces who are after all protecting us etc etc. .
There is a decided difference between Defence & Offence though.
There is a decided difference between Defence & Offence though.
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FourPart;1497811 wrote: There is a decided difference between Defence & Offence though.
As the saying goes the best defence is a good offence, the invasion of iraq was in part justified to defend us against saddam hussein using wmd's. We were attacking before he attacked us.
As the saying goes the best defence is a good offence, the invasion of iraq was in part justified to defend us against saddam hussein using wmd's. We were attacking before he attacked us.
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You know as well as the rest of us that Saddam Hussein and his administration had no intention, and never would have had any intention, of attacking any European country with any weaponry at all much less the USA. Even when his country was attacked he made no such move. Your lie of "the best defence is a good offence" would be laughable if it hadn't resulted in a million and a half deaths in Iraq alone.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1497827 wrote: You know as well as the rest of us that Saddam Hussein and his administration had no intention, and never would have had any intention, of attacking any European country with any weaponry at all much less the USA. Even when his country was attacked he made no such move. Your lie of "the best defence is a good offence" would be laughable if it hadn't resulted in a million and a half deaths in Iraq alone.
I was pointing out how opposition to the war becomes conflated with not supporting our soldiers while they are defending us from attack, invading iraq was "justified" as an act of defence not by me but by those who supported it. Yes I did know he had no wmd's that much was blindingly obvious. as Robin cook pointed out we knew exactly what he had because we (the west) sold it to him. If he's had them we probably wouldn't have invaded.
robin cook
Ironically, it is only because Iraq's military forces are so weak that we can even contemplate its invasion. Some advocates of conflict claim that Saddam's forces are so weak, so demoralised and so badly equipped that the war will be over in a few days.
We cannot base our military strategy on the assumption that Saddam is weak and at the same time justify pre-emptive action on the claim that he is a threat.
There is not a decided difference between offence and defence imo.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
If you want peace, prepare for war
I sometimes think we've not progressed very much since roman times.
I was pointing out how opposition to the war becomes conflated with not supporting our soldiers while they are defending us from attack, invading iraq was "justified" as an act of defence not by me but by those who supported it. Yes I did know he had no wmd's that much was blindingly obvious. as Robin cook pointed out we knew exactly what he had because we (the west) sold it to him. If he's had them we probably wouldn't have invaded.
robin cook
Ironically, it is only because Iraq's military forces are so weak that we can even contemplate its invasion. Some advocates of conflict claim that Saddam's forces are so weak, so demoralised and so badly equipped that the war will be over in a few days.
We cannot base our military strategy on the assumption that Saddam is weak and at the same time justify pre-emptive action on the claim that he is a threat.
There is not a decided difference between offence and defence imo.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
If you want peace, prepare for war
I sometimes think we've not progressed very much since roman times.
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If you want peace, refuse to fight.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
Armed Forces Day
spot;1497831 wrote: If you want peace, refuse to fight.
I cannot agree with that but I firmly believe that any country that starts a war is guilty and the leaders that ordered it should be tried for war crimes.
I cannot agree with that but I firmly believe that any country that starts a war is guilty and the leaders that ordered it should be tried for war crimes.
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Unfortunately there are some aggressive people in the world, some times aggressive people control nations.
Sometimes the aggressive people are around at the same time as paranoiac colleagues or presume their 'enemies' are aggressive....and nations.....the same as macho men, don't like to appear weak, unmanly.
Anybody who has witnessed a drunken brawl know the routine, the manly posturing, until one or other goes too far.
Best to be prepared and wise enough to keep the posturing to a minimum,it could be you that gets the bloody nose.
Sometimes the aggressive people are around at the same time as paranoiac colleagues or presume their 'enemies' are aggressive....and nations.....the same as macho men, don't like to appear weak, unmanly.
Anybody who has witnessed a drunken brawl know the routine, the manly posturing, until one or other goes too far.
Best to be prepared and wise enough to keep the posturing to a minimum,it could be you that gets the bloody nose.
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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Like the decisions to invade countries & getting involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. What has that to do with Defence?
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FourPart;1497854 wrote: Like the decisions to invade countries & getting involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. What has that to do with Defence?
Who runs the armed forces that invade countries and get involved in wars?
The Ministry of Defence :-p
Who runs the armed forces that invade countries and get involved in wars?
The Ministry of Defence :-p
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Bryn Mawr;1497859 wrote: Who runs the armed forces that invade countries and get involved in wars?
The Ministry of Defence :-p
Oh the irony!
The Ministry of Defence :-p
Oh the irony!