Blair handballs responsibility.
From what ive seen , its a bit of a whitewash
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The 'radical' left just wants everyone to have food, shelter, healthcare, education and a living wage. Man that's radical!....ooooohhhh Scary!
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Handballs? I don't know the expression. Tony Blair has said he fully accepts all the responsibility:Tony Blair has said that he takes "full responsibility" for the decisions that led to the UK's involvement in the 2003 Iraq War. The former prime minister was giving his reaction the the publication of the long-awaited Chilcot report. Mr Blair said he expressed "more sorrow, regret and apology" than people could ever know.
Chilcot report: Reaction to Iraq War Inquiry findings - BBC News
The Inquiry Report says thatUK went to war before peaceful options exhausted and military action was "not last resort"
Invasion in 2003 was based on “flawed intelligence and assessments that went unchallenged
Threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were "presented with certainty that was not justified"
What's been whitewashed?
Chilcot report: Reaction to Iraq War Inquiry findings - BBC News
The Inquiry Report says thatUK went to war before peaceful options exhausted and military action was "not last resort"
Invasion in 2003 was based on “flawed intelligence and assessments that went unchallenged
Threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were "presented with certainty that was not justified"
What's been whitewashed?
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This is all stuff we knew already. .....first rule of going to war....is it legal? They knew then it wasnt and that hasnt changed.
"Handballed" = passing the buck. He did just blame the US (in the nicest possible way) responsibility.....but
"Handballed" = passing the buck. He did just blame the US (in the nicest possible way) responsibility.....but
The 'radical' left just wants everyone to have food, shelter, healthcare, education and a living wage. Man that's radical!....ooooohhhh Scary!
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The reason it's all stuff we knew already is because the Inquiry that this is the Report from sat in 2010 and was largely televised live. What's added is the conclusion of the Inquiry's Committee of Privy Counsellors.
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Chilcot: Five things we learned from the Iraq War report we didn't know before
Chilcot: Five things we learned from the Iraq War report we didn't know before | UK Politics | News | The Independent
2. Eight months before the invasion, Tony Blair told George Bush in a remarkable private memo released to the Chilcot inquiry: “I will be with you, whatever.
3. Tony Blair did not press the United States for definite assurances about its plans for the aftermath of the invasion. Chilcot concluded that Blair "overestimated his ability to influence US decisions on Iraq".
Tony Blair and George Bush were openly discussing toppling Saddam Hussein as early as December 2001, after the UK and US had launched military action in Afghanistan. Blair told Bush in a memo: “If toppling Saddam is a prime objective, it is far easier to do it with Syria or Iran in favour or acquiescing rather than hitting all three at once, I favour giving these two a chance at a different relationship. Blair said that if the action in Afghanistan gave new hope to people, "in particular we shall have given regime change a good name which will help us in our argument over Iraq".
According to the blairites lying about your intention and deliberately exaggerating intelligence reports is not the same as "lying" The sad thing is i think they believe it.
Chilcot: Five things we learned from the Iraq War report we didn't know before | UK Politics | News | The Independent
2. Eight months before the invasion, Tony Blair told George Bush in a remarkable private memo released to the Chilcot inquiry: “I will be with you, whatever.
3. Tony Blair did not press the United States for definite assurances about its plans for the aftermath of the invasion. Chilcot concluded that Blair "overestimated his ability to influence US decisions on Iraq".
Tony Blair and George Bush were openly discussing toppling Saddam Hussein as early as December 2001, after the UK and US had launched military action in Afghanistan. Blair told Bush in a memo: “If toppling Saddam is a prime objective, it is far easier to do it with Syria or Iran in favour or acquiescing rather than hitting all three at once, I favour giving these two a chance at a different relationship. Blair said that if the action in Afghanistan gave new hope to people, "in particular we shall have given regime change a good name which will help us in our argument over Iraq".
According to the blairites lying about your intention and deliberately exaggerating intelligence reports is not the same as "lying" The sad thing is i think they believe it.
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magentaflame;1498306 wrote: Blair handballs responsibility.
From what ive seen , its a bit of a whitewash
It's not a whitewash but it remains to be seen in any of the mucky stuff sticks and if any action is taken over it.
Chilcot was not in a position to instigate action but he's thrown enough of the mucky stuff to ensure that action should be taken.
From what ive seen , its a bit of a whitewash
It's not a whitewash but it remains to be seen in any of the mucky stuff sticks and if any action is taken over it.
Chilcot was not in a position to instigate action but he's thrown enough of the mucky stuff to ensure that action should be taken.
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I don't think politicians know what lying is or if thgey do they rationalise it out of existence when it applies to them.
Alistair Carmichael says we need an Office of Electoral Integrity to punish lying politicians | Politics | The National
Alistair Carmichael says we need an Office of Electoral Integrity to punish lying politicians
I don't know if you rember "frenchgate" during the last elction when nicola sturgeon was accused of telling the french ambassador she wanted the tories to win the election rather than labour as it would increase support for the snp. This is the then minister that ordered the release of then denied all knowledge of it. It all came out after ghe was elected the last Lib dem MP in scotland. he was taken to court by his constituemnts, won the case in that he hadn't actually broken any laws but was ordered to pay all costs and still hasn't resigned. Hypcrisy is not an adequate description.
Alistair Carmichael says we need an Office of Electoral Integrity to punish lying politicians | Politics | The National
Alistair Carmichael says we need an Office of Electoral Integrity to punish lying politicians
I don't know if you rember "frenchgate" during the last elction when nicola sturgeon was accused of telling the french ambassador she wanted the tories to win the election rather than labour as it would increase support for the snp. This is the then minister that ordered the release of then denied all knowledge of it. It all came out after ghe was elected the last Lib dem MP in scotland. he was taken to court by his constituemnts, won the case in that he hadn't actually broken any laws but was ordered to pay all costs and still hasn't resigned. Hypcrisy is not an adequate description.
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gmc;1498335 wrote: I don't think politicians know what lying is or if thgey do they rationalise it out of existence when it applies to them.
Alistair Carmichael says we need an Office of Electoral Integrity to punish lying politicians | Politics | The National
I don't know if you rember "frenchgate" during the last elction when nicola sturgeon was accused of telling the french ambassador she wanted the tories to win the election rather than labour as it would increase support for the snp. This is the then minister that ordered the release of then denied all knowledge of it. It all came out after ghe was elected the last Lib dem MP in scotland. he was taken to court by his constituemnts, won the case in that he hadn't actually broken any laws but was ordered to pay all costs and still hasn't resigned. Hypcrisy is not an adequate description.
I totally agree with the sentiment though - maybe the new office could start with his case
Alistair Carmichael says we need an Office of Electoral Integrity to punish lying politicians | Politics | The National
I don't know if you rember "frenchgate" during the last elction when nicola sturgeon was accused of telling the french ambassador she wanted the tories to win the election rather than labour as it would increase support for the snp. This is the then minister that ordered the release of then denied all knowledge of it. It all came out after ghe was elected the last Lib dem MP in scotland. he was taken to court by his constituemnts, won the case in that he hadn't actually broken any laws but was ordered to pay all costs and still hasn't resigned. Hypcrisy is not an adequate description.
I totally agree with the sentiment though - maybe the new office could start with his case
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Bryn Mawr;1498338 wrote: I totally agree with the sentiment though - maybe the new office could start with his case
It would have to be non politician that ran it though otherwise it would be like putting a preist in charge of a child sex abuse inquiry
It would have to be non politician that ran it though otherwise it would be like putting a preist in charge of a child sex abuse inquiry