GOP cave on Obamacare repeal is the biggest broken promise in political history

katsung47 · Post by **katsung47** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:10 pm

GOP cave on Obamacare repeal is the biggest broken promise in political history

By PHILIP KLEIN (@PHILIPAKLEIN) • 3/24/17

"Republicans ran on repealing and replacing Obamacare for seven years, over the course of four election cycles"

"In 2010, they campaigned on repeal, but by 2011, they said they needed the Senate. In 2014, they won the Senate, but by 2015 they said as long as Obama was in office, nothing would become law. In 2016, they told conservative voters, even reluctant ones, that if they voted for Trump despite any reservations, they'd finally be able to repeal Obamacare. In November, voters gave them unified control of Washington. And yet after just two months on the job, they have thrown in the towel and said they're willing to abandon seven years of promises"

"Here's the bottom line: Republicans didn't want to repeal Obamacare that badly. Obamacare was a useful tool for them. For years, they could use it to score short-term messaging victories"

"Failing and then walking away on seven years of promises is a pathetic abdication of duty"

GOP cave on Obamacare repeal is the biggest broken promise in political history | Washington Examiner

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:23 pm

Yeah, I had to laugh when Trump tried to blame the Democrats even though the Republicans control the entire Congress!

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:49 am

It just proved that there are some sensible republicans, still. They at least rcognized that if they voted for that mess, they would be looking for a new job come next election.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:28 am

I think quite a few of the voters that were screaming about Obamacare finally realized its other name was the Affordable Care Act and they liked that health plan very much. There's no shortage of stupid people in this country.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:37 am

Snooz;1507880 wrote: I think quite a few of the voters that were screaming about Obamacare finally realized its other name was the Affordable Care Act and they liked that health plan very much. There's no shortage of stupid people in this country.

Can't argue with that.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:33 am

Obamacare was, after all, loosely modelled on the NHS - the pride of the UK Fleet (which the Tories are trying to sell off). When Obama was first campaigning he expressed a fascination for the success of the NHS & wanted America to have something similar. The problem is that it's too big a change from the Status Quo & people, on the whole, tend to be resistant to change.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:35 am

My understanding from the Press over here is that the opposition that sank Trump's plan came from an extreme far right group (The Freedom Group? Something like that) who opposed it for not completely dismantling the ACA. Then wee Donnie in a tantrum decided to make climate change worse just so he could have some sort of hack at Obama's legacy.

I still do not understand how anyone could vote for that walking turd.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:22 pm

Clodhopper;1507960 wrote: My understanding from the Press over here is that the opposition that sank Trump's plan came from an extreme far right group (The Freedom Group? Something like that) who opposed it for not completely dismantling the ACA. Then wee Donnie in a tantrum decided to make climate change worse just so he could have some sort of hack at Obama's legacy.

I still do not understand how anyone could vote for that walking turd.

The Freedom Caucus only lead the vote to stop Obama Care Lite.

To me, it is a refreshing that the Republican Pary has a conservative base.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:12 pm

tude dog;1507967 wrote: The Freedom Caucus only lead the vote to stop Obama Care Lite.

To me, it is a refreshing that the Republican Pary has a conservative base.

Chuckle. Sometimes you just have to scratch your head and say you don't quite get it. To me it looks as though the far right are looking to increase the suffering of ordinary people to increase their profits, or not spend state money caring for their own people. Let them suffer and die. Who cares? To you it seems a praiseworthy ideological purity?

It seems the same with Trump: I see him as a disgrace to the Office of President; to you the Office seems to validate him.

At least, that's how it looks from here.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:21 am

Clodhopper;1507979 wrote: Chuckle. Sometimes you just have to scratch your head and say you don't quite get it. To me it looks as though the far right are looking to increase the suffering of ordinary people to increase their profits, or not spend state money caring for their own people. Let them suffer and die. Who cares? To you it seems a praiseworthy ideological purity?

It seems the same with Trump: I see him as a disgrace to the Office of President; to you the Office seems to validate him.

At least, that's how it looks from here.

Uh, you mean me, to you the Office seems to validate him?

I wouldn't call him a disgrace to the office, no more than I don't remember calling Obama as a disgrace.

Both were/are incompetent boobs.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:02 am

Oh, I think I see. You regard Trump as maybe eccentric but basically a reasonable human being.

I regard him as a freak, a pervert, completely corrupt, utterly lacking in morals, emotionally juvenile, wilfully stupid and concerned only wholly and entirely with his own ego. That's just for starters. Obama I rather liked, though he was no particular friend of Britain.

To me it's as if you'd elected a paedophile traitor as president. He evokes utter disgust.

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:21 am

Clodhopper;1508034 wrote: Oh, I think I see. You regard Trump as maybe eccentric but basically a reasonable human being.

I regard him as a freak, a pervert, completely corrupt, utterly lacking in morals, emotionally juvenile, wilfully stupid and concerned only wholly and entirely with his own ego. That's just for starters. Obama I rather liked, though he was no particular friend of Britain.

To me it's as if you'd elected a paedophile traitor as president. He evokes utter disgust.

And I believe that you are quite wrong to think so highly of the man. (to borrow a line from the film "Last of the Mohicans" )

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:29 am

And I believe that you are quite wrong to think so highly of the man. (to borrow a line from the film "Last of the Mohicans" )

Chuckle.

It's just as well I'm on a silly fluffy pink cloud of happiness at present, or I'd have been rude rather than merely descriptive.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:02 pm

If they ever do let him over here, I'd like to see him invited as a guest on Question Time. They'd tear him apart.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:04 pm

FourPart;1508132 wrote: If they ever do let him over here, I'd like to see him invited as a guest on Question Time. They'd tear him apart.

I know a number of women most of whom who have never protested anything in their lives but who plan to protest if Trump comes here. The POTUS being a proud and outed molester seems to have them a little upset, unsurprisingly.

I do find it ironic when I find brexiters who don't support Trump, apparently unaware they are members of the same populist movement and supporting something every bit as ridiculous and grotesque for much the same reasons ("Everything will be fine if we leave the EU/Trump gets in..."...splat.).