Does the world need a good dose of reality?

[magentaflame]

Looking at years of threads on this forum and what people have discussed about the world we live in, and what its all about. Do you ever wonder if the world (our world) needs a kick up the arse?

I mean like energy shortages, food and water shortages. Get us all to understand the true meaning of human worth if we were to be pushed to the edge.

Our grandparents and thir parents lived in situations like this and i think we can all admit their 'kind' of human experience doesnt relate to anything we see in humans today.

Have a look at the mad rush people do at supermarkets when a long weekend is approaching.....youd think people thought they were going to starve to death.

I wonder what humans would become like when faced with a prolonged absence of what we would consider as civilisation.? Would we be as tough as our great grandparents?

I think on the whole we'd fail miserably

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[Bruv]

Do you lot get Bear Grylls survival type TV shows ?

Putting a group of people on an island that can sustain life, all they need to do is start a fire and find water, and build a water proof shelter.

Often the need to evacuate a quitter for health or because they can't hack it. Or they need the specialists to come in to advise or help.

Last one I watched it took a couple of days to get a fire started.

No we would be doomed.

[Ahso!]

I'm sure instinct would kick in.

The human condition needs to reassess its respect and relationship with the rest of nature. That's where we fail most miserably. Until we do that...

[magentaflame]

Bruv;1512979 wrote: Do you lot get Bear Grylls survival type TV shows ?

Putting a group of people on an island that can sustain life, all they need to do is start a fire and find water, and build a water proof shelter.

Often the need to evacuate a quitter for health or because they can't hack it. Or they need the specialists to come in to advise or help.

Last one I watched it took a couple of days to get a fire started.

No we would be doomed.


Yeah ive watched a few of those..... a couple of days? It would take me one hour if that. But of course thats due to the flora and on account of my knowledge base. But i know how to collect pippies and mussels so okay there.

Survival of the fittest all over again. No elevtricty....so all the insane asylums and prisons would be empty. Those who boast solar power would be dead because that would be a commodity others will want. Older people would be left to die.. women would be sort for their health a.d not their looks to keep tje species going.....but thats a lot later on after people have settled.

I think there will be a lot of dead pepple around. Just based on the food and water situation.....farms eould be raided etc.

But im thinking..... what about another world war? Gone are the days of quarter acre house blocks where the planning intention was for home owners to grow their own vege and have a few chooks.. how would people in apartment blocks cope just on the luxury items being halted? ( by luxury i mean coffee, fresh fruit and vege.milk.

[magentaflame]

Ahso!;1512981 wrote: I'm sure instinct would kick in.

The human condition needs to reassess its respect and relationship with the rest of nature. That's where we fail most miserably. Until we do that...


I think if it was down to instinct people wouldnt die being lost in forests or the bush or deserts. What is instinct without knowledge.? Modern day westerners dont seem to have a knowledge base.

[Clodhopper]

If we have another world war then survival may not be possible at all given stocks of nuclear weapons. Global radiation levels, nuclear winter, perhaps 100 years where no crops can be grown? Few even in the USA will have shelters that could last that long.

If it was just some weird catastrophe that just knocked out civilisation without actually killing anyone directly - say a solar storm knocks out all electricity transformers around the world - then it would largely depend (here) on whether centralised control could be retained. If it could then theoretically at least we would be able to feed everyone after perhaps one bad year. We have to assume that drugs become unavailable so anyone reliant on them for life ceases to be an issue. Typhus, cholera, dysentery would all be serious concerns and epidemics would force communities to try to isolate themselves. But if we could organise a society of some sort would survive. Without central control we'd be tribal inside a few years.

Out in Aus NZ you might have a low enough pop density to be able to just spread out and survive. Here that's not so easy. Oh - and another thing: our climate counts as mild if you've a nice heated house. I think our climate would kill many in the first years: you might not get properly dry between October and March: cold, wet, wind chill, pneumonia...

And of course the older you are the harder it is, generally speaking.

[Bruv]

Well thats cheered me up.

[Ahso!]

magentaflame;1512986 wrote: I think if it was down to instinct people wouldnt die being lost in forests or the bush or deserts. What is instinct without knowledge.?Knowledge helps tremendously, there's no doubt about that. Instinct doesn't mean every and all would survive. This is the beauty of diversity in numbers. Sans a cataclysmic event (natural or otherwise), it would take a lot for the human species to become extinct because we're so diverse and possess many tools to overcome almost anything.magentaflame;1512986 wrote: Modern day westerners dont seem to have a knowledge base.I'm not certain what you mean here. Everyone has a knowledge base. The only question is how extensive it is.

[xfrodobagginsx]

Bruv;1512997 wrote: Well thats cheered me up.


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