You and Us

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:32 pm

Accountable wrote: Dang! If GMC's introverted.... :-2

GMC is the exception !

(in my world anyway)

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:35 pm

Nomad wrote: Were the same, were brothers and sisters through and through !

Exactly what I was trying to say....Must learn to come to the point...must learn to come to the point....must learn to come to the point !!!!:D

G-man · Post by **G-man** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:39 pm

I'm from both sides so... I should probably just keep my mouth shut.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:44 am

theia wrote: Bring 'em on, Acc...still haven't a clue what it means but it sounds good...
:D It's a simple expletive that's not so bad you can't say it in mixed company. Something like "Cor!" or some such.

Bothwell · Post by **Bothwell** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:28 am

Americans feel life is serious but not hopeless

Us Brits know its hopeless but not serious

I love the sheer vastness of the United States and how different each region is, bear in mind that you could drive a car from the southern extremity to the northernmost point in about 15 hours.

I remeber last January boarding a plane in Florida where it was 90 deg and emerging a couple of hours later at Chicago and nearly got cut in half by the wind and there was piles of snow everywhere, which was just great as Delta had lost my luggage so my plan to travel in shorts and shirt and change at Chicago were foiled, so cue the stupid Englishman standing in the taxi rank at O'Hare in bermuda shorts, sandals and a Jimmy Buffet T shirt

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:31 am

At least you brought sunshine and smiles to thousands of miserable Chicagoans. :-6

*snort* :yh_rotfl

Bothwell · Post by **Bothwell** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:39 am

At least you brought sunshine and smiles to thousands of miserable Chicagoans.

Well the black guy who was calling the cabs did say the following "Man you be stylin" I have absolutely no idea to this day whether it was a compliment or an insult although from the laugh it drew in the cab queue I guess it was the latter. I obviously responded with the Agincourt speech from Henry V

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:48 am

i like the whole "stiff upper lip" mentality you Brits have.

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:14 am

Accountable wrote: I blame Jives. :wah:

%$#$@@&^*%$@#@#!!!!! I'm her English teacher, for Pete's Sake! Blame the %#$#$@ History teacher and the *&%$# Geography teacher!!!:mad:

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:08 am

ArnoldLayne wrote: For my part....

Dislike your propensity to make sickly sweet TV programmes with a "message" ie "Little House on the Prairie", "The Waltons" (Ugh Yuk :wah: )

That's very harsh Arnold...my kids loved these...and I loved em too....what DID happen to Mary Ellen and John Boy ????:) I liked the messsages...innocent and naive yes, but better than the violence and bad language we get now....

Now if you were talking about Dallas etc...I would agree.

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:03 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote:

Love Westerns always wanted to be a cowboy

Come to my town, you can stil se the real thing!

Love all old American movies (fell in love with June Allyson,Hedy Lamarr etc)

JUNE ALYSON! (Sigh... she's soooo dreamy!)

Love the way you encourage success and are pleased for someone who is able to afford a Rolls Royce ( we sneer and are jealous)

That's because most of us still harbor the idea that we could get there too!

Love your cars however oversized and impracticle they are (old American cars were never built to go round corners faster than 10 mph without lurching and screetching. Made car chases more exciting though )

This proves we really are 'zany"!

Dislike Corporate greed (we have it but yours is global and all encompassing)

Truly the down side of Democracy.

Dislike the popularity of film stars in politics ( Is Arnie really the right person to be running the Californian Administration ??)

Absolutely not. And this just shows the incredible influence that Hollywood has on us.

Dislike your apparent blind following of your government, with little protest, lest it be construed as unpatriotic.

Well, we harbor the belief that if any government ws truly bad, we could always replace it in the ext elections. That hasn't worked with Bush, though.

Dislike the fact you pay so little for petrol (gas) (You THINK you pay a lot but you dont really)

I try to tell people this, but they don't believe me.

Dislike your propensity to make sickly sweet TV programmes with a "message" ie "Little House on the Prairie", "The Waltons" (Ugh Yuk :wah: )

Bite your tongue, Communist!!!:mad:

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:06 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: Dislike your propensity to make sickly sweet TV programmes with a "message" ie "Little House on the Prairie", "The Waltons" (Ugh Yuk :wah: )
Can't argue with ya there Arnie.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:18 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: Dislike your propensity to make sickly sweet TV programmes with a "message" ie "Little House on the Prairie", "The Waltons" (Ugh Yuk :wah: )
You could not be more right about anything. Those shows were nauseating.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:46 pm

1974 to 1983...these were different times with different tastes. Look at the other stuff we watched from the US:

1975 Most Popular TV shows:

1. All in the Family (CBS)

2. Rich Man, Poor Man (ABC)

3. Laverne & Shirley (ABC)

4. Maude (CBS)

5. The Bionic Woman (ABC)

6. Phyllis (CBS)

7. Sanford and Son (NBC)

8. Rhoda (CBS)

9. The Six Million Dollar Man (ABC)

10. Happy Days (ABC)

1979 Most Popular TV shows

1. 60 Minutes (CBS)

2. Three's Company (ABC)

3. That's Incredible! (ABC)

4. Alice (CBS)

5. M*A*S*H (CBS)

6. Dallas (CBS)

7. Flo (CBS)

8. The Jeffersons (CBS)

9. The Dukes of Hazzard (CBS)

10. One Day at a Time (CBS)

Wonder what people will think of our current tastes in 20 years time ??

orangesox1 · Post by **orangesox1** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:11 pm

Bez wrote: 1974 to 1983...these were different times with different tastes. Look at the other stuff we watched from the US:

1975 Most Popular TV shows:

1. All in the Family (CBS)

2. Rich Man, Poor Man (ABC)

3. Laverne & Shirley (ABC)

4. Maude (CBS)

5. The Bionic Woman (ABC)

6. Phyllis (CBS)

7. Sanford and Son (NBC)

8. Rhoda (CBS)

9. The Six Million Dollar Man (ABC)

10. Happy Days (ABC)

1979 Most Popular TV shows

1. 60 Minutes (CBS)

2. Three's Company (ABC)

3. That's Incredible! (ABC)

4. Alice (CBS)

5. M*A*S*H (CBS)

6. Dallas (CBS)

7. Flo (CBS)

8. The Jeffersons (CBS)

9. The Dukes of Hazzard (CBS)

10. One Day at a Time (CBS)

Wonder what people will think of our current tastes in 20 years time ??

I watch MASH everyday at 4:30 while I'm preparing dinner. I still enjoy it:D

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:46 pm

1975 Most Popular TV shows:

1. All in the Family (CBS) Wouldn't watch it if you paid me.

2. Rich Man, Poor Man (ABC) Ditto

3. Laverne & Shirley (ABC) Watched once in a while

4. Maude (CBS) Wouldn't watch for money

5. The Bionic Woman (ABC) Ditto

6. Phyllis (CBS) Ditto

7. Sanford and Son (NBC) Ditto

8. Rhoda (CBS) Vaguely remember seeing

9. The Six Million Dollar Man (ABC) Watched religiously

10. Happy Days (ABC) Watched religiously

1979 Most Popular TV shows

1. 60 Minutes (CBS) Take it or leave it

2. Three's Company (ABC) Stupid beyond all reason

3. That's Incredible! (ABC) Interesting at the time

4. Alice (CBS) *YAWN*

5. M*A*S*H (CBS) Great show, still watch it

6. Dallas (CBS) Wouldn't waste a nano-second of my existence watching.

7. Flo (CBS) Huh?

8. The Jeffersons (CBS) That'll be a big, huge PASS.

9. The Dukes of Hazzard (CBS) While John Schneider is gorgeous, please refer to "Three's Company."

10. One Day at a Time (CBS) Pfffft.

Hijack over.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:10 pm

Jives wrote: %$#$@@&^*%$@#@#!!!!! I'm her English teacher, for Pete's Sake! Blame the %#$#$@ History teacher and the *&%$# Geography teacher!!!:mad:
Oh sure. Just because she's coherent you think you're in the clear?

theia · Post by **theia** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:13 am

ArnoldLayne wrote: Oh !! Of course

Love..... The Simpsons ( Truly, the principle reason I had sattelite TV installed)

Ditto (without the sat. TV)

jennyswan · Post by **jennyswan** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:46 am

I think that the Americans say I love you very often and quicker then we do. Of course this is a generalisation and I don't mean it in an insulting way. It's just something I've noticed. We tend to be a bit more 'cold' I suppose.:-3

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:36 am

jennyswan wrote: I think that the Americans say I love you very often and quicker then we do. Of course this is a generalisation and I don't mean it in an insulting way. It's just something I've noticed. We tend to be a bit more 'cold' I suppose.:-3
i don't know if it's because you're "cold"

i think it might be that we Yanks are quick to say it. Maybe with you guys, it carries more weight.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:10 pm

American things I like (we don't use love as an adjective over here).

The Simpsons (who said american's can't do satire?)

Hollywood (produces complete trash interspersed with 100% gems)

American Music (any questions?)

Its political history (remarkably benign when you think about it)

Kirsten Dunst (oh yes)

Woody Allen, Bill Hicks, Lenny Bruce..etc etc

Those Iced peppermint frapochino things in starbucks (yeah I know they are a bunch of corporate whores but its still nice)

Lots and lots of other things that would take too long too write, though I should mention that whole saving western Europe during WWII thing, thanks lads some of us havn't forgotten.

American things we can do without thanks.

American Football (AARRRRGHHHHHH, that game is so wrong, if you have to play with a funny ball and pick it up play rugby, and don't call it FOOTball).

Your similar feeling about real football, resistance is futile, give it up.

Creationism (give me a break)

Guns (Sorry, thats just the way we are)

Bad TV (its our own fault for watching it though)

Iraq (what were you thinking?)

Special Catagory.

American cars: (Complete rubbish, but also impossibly brilliant, except for the really bad ones)

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:38 pm

Things Paddys like about the Brits.

Their ability to actually turn up on time, and do what they say they are gonna do.

Their emotional detachment, (we get upset too easily).

The Premiership, despite Chelsea.

The fact that they don't hate us all despite what the IRA did.

BBC 2 and Channel 4.

English women (oh to be in England at closing time, though I'm not sure what the Irish women think about English, Scots, Welsh men).

Jack Charlton (should be a saint).

The Beatles. (nuff said)

Things we don't like.

The whole 700 year occupation thing, partition, the north. (lets get that out of the way).

Royalty. (I hope you know you are paying these people to act like this)

Acting pedantic and standoffish. (you know yourseves)

British Beer. (no really, its crap)

About 70% of the Tory Party, no 85%. (You kind of feel sorry for them cause labour are wiping them, then they start talking)

Cricket. (I don't know whats worse, that or American football, seriously)

For just being more powerful than us.

Special Catagory.

Sheer bloody mindedness, it is at once your worst and best characteristic.

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:32 pm

Accountable wrote: Hey Canadia, what's "aboot" about? :p

I was in England, trying to go to the men's room, what they've named Lou. Anyway, when I hit the door some guy on the other side of the door, I assume it was Lou, yells "MIND!" Well, I thought he was yelling at his kid for not doing as he was told - none of my business, right? Well the door was heavier than I expected so I shoved ... and dang near knocked a guy off his ladder just inside the door! Somebody should have warned me. I could've hurt Lou.

;)

Its LOO

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:34 pm

Galbally wrote: Things Paddys like about the Brits.

I heard the term "Paddy" is derogatory, like n*igger or *beaner*, or wetback, or slant eyes, etc.... Im guessing that isnt true is it?

Dizz · Post by **Dizz** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:02 pm

I like Monty Python and that kind of humor. I read all of Doglas Adams books and like random humor. :wah:

What I don't like is the crappy movies that come out of England. They have no distinguishable story line, miserable, and the accents are so strong that I can't understand what they say. ... dramas mostly. Those dramas are a bit too random.

I really didn't get "A Fish Called Wanda." :-5

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:08 pm

Galbally wrote: American things I like (we don't use love as an adjective over here).

The Simpsons (who said american's can't do satire?)

Hollywood (produces complete trash interspersed with 100% gems)

American Music (any questions?)

Its political history (remarkably benign when you think about it)

Kirsten Dunst (oh yes)

Woody Allen, Bill Hicks, Lenny Bruce..etc etc

Those Iced peppermint frapochino things in starbucks (yeah I know they are a bunch of corporate whores but its still nice)

Lots and lots of other things that would take too long too write, though I should mention that whole saving western Europe during WWII thing, thanks lads some of us havn't forgotten.

American things we can do without thanks.

American Football (AARRRRGHHHHHH, that game is so wrong, if you have to play with a funny ball and pick it up play rugby, and don't call it FOOTball).

Your similar feeling about real football, resistance is futile, give it up.

Creationism (give me a break)

Guns (Sorry, thats just the way we are)

Bad TV (its our own fault for watching it though)

Iraq (what were you thinking?)

Special Catagory.

American cars: (Complete rubbish, but also impossibly brilliant, except for the really bad ones)
That has got to be some of the funniest stuff I've read in ages. The special category here, the cars, oh geeze, the things I could tell you. My fiance builds them. I'm not saying another word on it.

:yh_wink

Funny, funny stuff.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:28 pm

DesignerGal wrote: I heard the term "Paddy" is derogatory, like n*igger or *beaner*, or wetback, or slant eyes, etc.... Im guessing that isnt true is it?

Depends who uses it and how its used, its like the way some black people have kind off turned the n****r word into something else for their own usage. Though its not as offensive as that one is.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:54 pm

Dizz wrote: I like Monty Python and that kind of humor. I read all of Doglas Adams books and like random humor. :wah:

What I don't like is the crappy movies that come out of England. They have no distinguishable story line, miserable, and the accents are so strong that I can't understand what they say. ... dramas mostly. Those dramas are a bit too random.

I really didn't get "A Fish Called Wanda." :-5

Perhaps it was the fact that "A Fish Called Wanda" was actually a comedy put you off? I do remember a girl I lived with from Indiana who had a particular problem with British soap opera's in that the actors are not very attractive and the storylines tend to be a bit.....well...depressing sometimes. I tried to explain to her that people over here prefer homegrown dramas that they can identify with, that reflect real life. Its fine when the Americans do ridiculously glamrous shows cause its more believeable for some reason. But for instance I don't think Miami Vice would have had quite the same impact if it had been set in Dudley in the West Midands, or if Dynasty was set in Newcastle upon Tyne. I don't think she quite got it though.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:55 pm

DesignerGal wrote: Its LOO
But that's not as funny. :p

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:29 pm

I was just thinking of a good example of the difference between Britishness and Americanness (is that a word, cause if not then I invented it), anyway. When I was a kid the 2 big sci fi shows were Star Trek (U.S.) and Doctor who (U.K.).

In star trek you had these wonderful dogooders in their amazing ship, they would sort of fly along and bump into some crowd of aliens or being with powers or what have you. Now what would happen is that spock and a couple of the others would have a few ideas about what to do....you know check the warp factor, think about having a go with a few photon torpedos, reversing the transporters etc..... following this Captain Kirk would go, "thanks for the ideas fellas...great", then he would beam down to the planet, get into a brawl with the head guy, beat him up, and steal his girlfriend. Normally during this period the ship would have also broken down (again) and scotty would have fixed it, and generally everything would be grand, and they woluld all head out into the sunset bonanza style. I have to say I enjoyed it immensely.

In doctor who you had this guy "The Doctor" a Timelord who was kind of like an intergalactic Dylan Thomas who would travel between various dimensions and realities wearing crushed velvet jackets, cravats, fedorra hats, quoting milton and shakespear and using an old police telephone box as his mode of transport, he did have a yellow model T ford as well, but that was just for driving. He would go somewhere in the universe, which strangely enough usually looked like the home countes in southern England where they're would be a spot of intergalactic bother, he would proceed to take on whoever or whatever was responsible using sarcasm and irony, when that didn't work he would resort to either an umbrella or a scarf, evidently very effective against all sorts of transdimsional time-hopping space villians. After that he would crack an abstract joke, get back into the phone-box with his assisstant, and they would move on to the next intergalatic disturbance (usually in Kent). I also enjoyed that too, but can anyone see a difference in approach here?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:45 am

:wah: Your posts are really fun to read, Galbally.

Bothwell · Post by **Bothwell** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:58 am

Galbally on the subject of Star Trek (and I loved the early ones too) Scotty must have been the worst galactic mechanic in the world, whenver Jim was in a spot it was all Scotty could do to muster up a warp 5 when Jim wanted at least an eight, his standard response was always "I canna fix it Jim"

There are however some American shows that I just love, when I was a kid :

Happy Days

The Monkees

The Banana Splits

Now I am older

The West Wing

The Sopranos

Curb Your Enthusiasm

The Civil War (one of the dest docs I have ever seen)

On Dr Who it's a great example of our phlegmatic nature, the first time I ever went on the tube in London I was scared to death because it was always populated by Cybermen, Daaleks and those Ant men. Plus which the doctor alwasy enlisted the help of the stiff upper lipped Brigadier to assist. Do you remeber how naff the costumes and sets were? what joy, a simple world where everything could be cured by the use of the Sonic Screwdriver

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:32 am

taking a cue from Galbally...

wonderful things about/from "across the pond"

Austin Martin

James Bond

Catherine Zeta Jones:yh_drool

the Beatles

RADAR

Soccer Hooligans(yes. they're Brit's version of white trash)

what the Brits did wrong...

Taxation without Representation(you guys screwd the pooch on that):wah:

Spice Girls(WTF!?!!?)

Camilla(Yikes)

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:33 am

Bothwell wrote: Galbally on the subject of Star Trek (and I loved the early ones too) Scotty must have been the worst galactic mechanic in the world, whenver Jim was in a spot it was all Scotty could do to muster up a warp 5 when Jim wanted at least an eight, his standard response was always "I canna fix it Jim"

There are however some American shows that I just love, when I was a kid :

Happy Days

The Monkees

The Banana Splits

Now I am older

The West Wing

The Sopranos

Curb Your Enthusiasm

The Civil War (one of the dest docs I have ever seen)

On Dr Who it's a great example of our phlegmatic nature, the first time I ever went on the tube in London I was scared to death because it was always populated by Cybermen, Daaleks and those Ant men. Plus which the doctor alwasy enlisted the help of the stiff upper lipped Brigadier to assist. Do you remeber how naff the costumes and sets were? what joy, a simple world where everything could be cured by the use of the Sonic Screwdriver

No scotty was definately not the best was he? To be honest they should have just flown the ship back home and asked for a different one made by the japs, more reliable you know.

I did also like the later Star Trek with Patrick Steward in where the had developed the interesting tactic of running away when they met something really bad, very useful, perhaps it was cuase he was supposed to be French. Thou I don't get to see much T.V. now but the Sopranos is superior TV, thou I like Lost as well so maybe I have no taste.

Yeah that was the Dr Who that was on when I was a kid, it was like "we are in right trouble now Dr., what will we do?.....Call in the army!" I had forgtten about the sconic screwdriver, yeah his spaceship (telephone box) was always breaking down too. I was truly one of those kids who hid behind the seetee when the Darlecks would show up.

There was that other British Sci Fi Blakes Seven, which although similar in some ways to Star Trek was also completely depressing and ended up with everyone getting killed and the evil empire winning, it was like a sci fi drama written by Pink Floyd. Kinda cool thou.

I did also see that American series about the civil war and it was excellent.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:46 am

wonderful things about/from "across the pond"

Austin Martin

James Bond

Catherine Zeta Jones:yh_drool

the Beatles

RADAR

Soccer Hooligans(yes. they're Brit's version of white trash)

what the Brits did wrong...

Taxation without Representation(you guys screwd the pooch on that):wah:

Spice Girls(WTF!?!!?)

Camilla(Yikes)[/QUOTE]

Just to rectify this a bit, its Aston Martin, and thats important as there were older cars in Britain called Austins, but you wouldn't want to drive them at all! I think appropriate lists should be made for all English speaking countries thou I couldn't be ars*d doing it meself right now.

Bothwell · Post by **Bothwell** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:24 am

The great thing about Blake 7 was there were only six of them, plus which all the planets they landed on looked remarkably like a quarry in Wiltshire

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:13 pm

posted by bothwell

The great thing about Blake 7 was there were only six of them, plus which all the planets they landed on looked remarkably like a quarry in Wiltshire

The great thing about Blake's seven was that it was so appallingly bad it was fascinating. You just couldn't believe anything so bad was deliberate and that it had to improve.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:16 pm

GMC if you think that was bad what about the original "Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy" on the BBC? That made "Blakes 7" look like "2001 A Space Odessey"". Anyway what was this thread about again? Oh yeah what is different between the states and over here? Erm well one thing I did notice is that Americans refuse to accept that life is ultimately, when you really think about it, kind of...well...all in all, a bit of a let-down really. Thats it in a nutshell, you can work out everything else from that.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:36 pm

Why is life a let-down, Galbally? All life has ups and downs, but life is to look forward to, through the very end.

2001 was a great flic, saw it when it first came out. Magnificent musical score! Go Strauss!

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:13 pm

chonsigirl wrote: Why is life a let-down, Galbally? All life has ups and downs, but life is to look forward to, through the very end.

2001 was a great flic, saw it when it first came out. Magnificent musical score! Go Strauss!

Hey chonisgirl, you just confirmed my point perfectly, you people are so perky. And as to why I think thatabout life, the universe, and all the rest, well......there is no reason why, well except experience, but I mean Life, its not crap or anything, but its not something to really write home about either is it? If you can get this you will have gone a long way in furthering your understanding of us lot, trust me.

I think if I had to some up life to God I would say, "not bad, but a little bit dissapointing, you should try harder next time".

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:00 pm

Galbally wrote: Hey chonisgirl, you just confirmed my point perfectly, you people are so perky. Perky is good, especially in breasts! And as to why I think thatabout life, the universe, and all the rest, well......there is no reason why, well except experience, but I mean Life, its not crap or anything, but its not something to really write home about either is it? If you can get this you will have gone a long way in furthering your understanding of us lot, trust me. I blame your weather.

I think if I had to some up life to God I would say, "not bad, but a little bit dissapointing, you should try harder next time".Nah, you should try harder.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:55 am

Accountable wrote: Perky is good, especially in breasts! I blame your weather.

Nah, you should try harder.

I hear what your saying, but I didn't create the universe so I refuse to take ultimate resposibility for its inbuilt crapness. Don't get me wrong, I like the fact that ye are perky, its refreshing, but you'll get bored too eventually. I mean your go-getting attitude has helped ye to achieve a lot of things, you know is like when Kennedy said, "right we're going to the moon lads!" and ye did, thats impressive, wheras we would go "right, the moon will we go have a look or what?" and someone would inevitably go "its a bit cold though, isn't it?, lets just go down the pub and watch the match"

You know, I think you may be right about the weather, its hard not to be a miserable sod when it rains 234 days a year.

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:52 am

I remember you Onsekiz :-4