Allied troops should say they are sorry.

[kensloft]

I think that it is time that he Allied soldiers should say that they are sorry to the Iraqi people! They should tell them they're sorry for having to break into the sanctity of their homes because they are looking for guns that people are trying to use to kill them. They should tell them they are sorry that they can't speak their language so that they could find out where the guns are. They should say that they are sorry if they demolish their homes because they've rented them out for free to people that use them to shoot them while they are on patrol. They should say they are sorry that the reconstructioin is taking so long. They should say they are sorry for trying to keep the other people in the country from killing them. They should be sorry that they are arresting and imprisoning their own troops because they are abusing people under their authority. They should say they are sorry that corruption is a human trait. They should say that they are sorry for not giving the Iraqis everything that they can't get at home for themselves, quickly enough.

They should be sorry for trusting that the scenes that are used while they are invading their houses would look like something other than the Nazi Jackboot tactics that they appear to be. Sorry for not being perfect like the Iraqis. Sorry for not being able to go to the local space to hang out with the neighbourhood folk. Sorry for not being able to be there when the armed free, dumb fighters knock at their door tellimg them to stop talking to the Allies. They should tell them they are sorry that they can't hang out at the basketball court to sink a few with the locals. They should tell them that they are sorry that the distribution systems and their inherent corruption don't let them eat as well they do at their mess halls. They should say that they are sorry for trying to let them educate themselves and their families by giving them the means with which to do it. They should say that they are sorry for not bringing their Iraqi friends back home with them when their tour is over. They should be sorry that the sewage system takes so long to get up and running let alone sorry for trying to teach people how to keep it running. They should say that they are sorry that there is no Thursday night recycling pick-ups. They should be sorry that they can't sit around enjoying the Simpsons on television in the local coffee shop. They should tell them they are sorry that there are no Wall Marts in the area having special sales of gas operated electrical generators.

When are the Allies going to start saying that they are sorry for what they are doing in Iraq. It's about time that they say, emphatically that they are giving the Iraquis a heartfelt "Sorry" for being there.

SAY YOU ARE SORRY... NOW!

[LottomagicZ4941]

How about they say they are sorry for leaving and let them fight for their own freedom like we did hundreds of years ago?

Lotto

http://www.flalottomagic.net/cgi-local/ ... ontact-344

MagicZ4941

PS. I have mixed fealings about us being over there. Do they really want to be liberated? I am not so sure.

[kensloft]

They've been fighting for who gets to be their slave master for eons. Allied forces are needed to give them freedom because freedom is a concept that they've never had to lose.

The faster they come home, the happier I'll be but you have to take into consideration that if they leave too early then it'll be like pulling out as they were forced to do in '91. A number of years later and we're back. With higher casualties.

Their fight for democracy is not the same fight as the the US's journey to freedom.

The entire system has to be recalibrated to ensure that everyone is included. Otherwise it'll be more of the same long, drawn-out agony of watching people being murdered before your very eyes and not being able to do anything about it.

We should be there. Once they realize that we want to go home they'll adjust to it and know that they can count on us to watch them until they are secure and standing on their own feet.

[capt_buzzard]

That's Crap and you know it. Did al-quada and the so many other Arab terrorist groups around the world say they were sorry for 9/11, the bombings of US Government buildings, Embassies ect.

[cars]

Where are the Iraqis to say "they" are sorry to the Allied soldiers' families when their loved ones were, and are still being killed fighting for the "Iraqis freedom!" :-5

[anastrophe]

....>sniff?sniff?< ...what's that i smell? smells like a troll!

please, don't feed the troll. this person isn't interested in discussion. they're interested in starting a fun little flame war.



five bucks says abdullah is a white, middle-class 15 year old living in omaha nebraska, and getting a rockin' good laugh stirring up the pot.

[capt_buzzard]

anastrophe wrote: ....>sniff?sniff? Agreed.

[LottomagicZ4941]

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the

president, or that we are to stand by the president

right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,

but is morally treasonable to the American public." -

Theodore Roosevelt

Never saw a miracle of science, that didn't go from a blessing to a curse

Never saw a military solution, that didn't end up in something worse.

Sting

Can't agree with Sting on every miracle of sicence being a curse. And I think most supported WWWII. Statements that say never or always are usually a tad inacurate.

Gald that my brother's knee blew out in basic training and that he is not over there. Sometimes what we think is a problem is a blessing.

Missed the Sting quote before. Always something on these forums to give us something to think about.

Perhpas I should just go and play some video games and stop thinking about the war.

Triumph from Never Surender "To much thinking yes I know"

Lotto

http://www.flalottomagic.net/cgi-local/ ... ontact-344

MagicZ4941

[kensloft]

Abdullah.

You are a fool. If you are, actually, from that area of the world your writing makes you twice the fool that you would have been. You spread lies. You think that people are as gullible as you are. Anyone that can countenance being on the side of Saddam Hussein by trying to spread his propaganda is a couple of donuts short of a dozen.

You have freedom here that your brothers (assuming you are from the region) are fighting and dying for so that their children won't have to grow up to be like you. A traitorous thug that thinks because his friends have the guns then he can do whatever he wants. You should take a close and serious look at your life because you are a thug.

You blame the Allies for doing all these terrible things to your virgin women, yet, you say absolutely nothing about the atrocities that your countrymen, under Saddam, have perpetrated against women for years.

You take the easy way out by trying to suggest that this is all done because of the colour of your skin. Racist slurs against a people that have spent their lives learning how to fight and prevent racism. If there is one thing that people in the Allied forces know and understand it is that racism comes in all sizes, shapes and colours.

When you go to bed tonight you should get down on your knees and ask to be forgiven for being the despicable human that you are being by posting your outrageous insinuations that Americans are the same as you.

When you wake up in the morning you should thank God that he let you arise and then you should promise Him that you will do better for your fellow countrymen than Saddam and his thugs have done for them for the past generation and more.

Your ignorance is the only thing that saves you from the wrath of God. You can call him Allah or anything that you want. He is God. There is only one God and if you think God allows the rape and torture of women and children then you are sicker than anyone could believe. While you are on this site you should thank your lucky stars that there is a God because He is driving you to realize just how sick you are.

You may have been the tough guys when you had guns and others didn't but now that the shoe is on the other foot... how do you feel?

There is no way to express how sick you make me feel with your sickening allegations against a people that are guilty of nothing more than deposing a sick regime that wantonly kills its own people.

And while you are at it... why don't you get a real life and stop being the dupe that you are.

[LottomagicZ4941]

"The sadami regime has been created by you the west , he was your agent."

There was a time when the Bushes were buddy buddy with sadam.

Perhpas that is how they know he is or was evil. Then again the Bible says to speak evil of no man.

Perhpas that is because words have power. Some say don't feed the troll.

This post got me thinking. So I say thank the troll.

I say if the Iraq want freedom they should fight for it. I don't want us over there if they don't want us over there. Are they going to be thankfull for all the billions that we spend? Is it wort it?

Lotto

http://www.flalottomagic.net/cgi-local/ ... elcome-344

MagicZ4941A

[LottomagicZ4941]

Abdullah

"You are destroying your own democracy "

I fear you may be correct.

"I can't tell the difference between the fool and the wise" RJD

The Patriout Act. Even us Americans should be worried about Bush.

Lotto

http://www.flalottomagic.net/cgi-local/ ... elcome-344

MagicZ4941A

[capt_buzzard]

Has one terrorist apologized for their bombing around the world? Freedom Fighters - Allah be praised. More crap

[kensloft]

Impolite language? I must be stupid because I can't speak a second language? He is our agent? We want your oil?

If it is impolite language to say that someone, who wants to blame the Allies for all the ills of their counry, isn't thinking staight and trutfully, then I am impolite.

"The people do not want you , no one accept occupation. "

That is a point in contention. I don't want to write with big words because I fear you may not understand them. This is not an insult. The English language is full of big words and small words with similar meanings. Just like in your language.

In simple English, you don't want us to be there. You want to feel like you are speaking for your people. If you are speaking for the killers, the rape artists, the torturers, the thieves, the terrorists, then you are speaking for your country when you accuse people that are not doing those things of doing those things.

If you are speaking for the hard working, developing people of Iraq then I would say that you are lying. You are lying because 8 out of 10 people don't want us to leave. They want us to stay there until they are strong enough to make sure that people like you will never, ever again be able to speak for them.

*If you think you know every thing , even our cases then you are wrong*

The only men who know everything are dead. When they know everything then they can't be in this life. Nobody knows everything. To try to say that people think they know everything is only an excuse to continue with your not telling the truth to yourself.

If you want to make me look small in your eyes by saying that I don't speak your language, then that is OK. If English isn't good enough maybe we can speak in French? Spanish?

I never wanted to learn any of the Arabic languages because I saw that the people were not able to be free. Why would I want to talk in a language of imprisoned people that don't want to stand up for themselves? Why would I want to believe in a barbaric culture that prided itself on slaying infidels with swords?

Why would I care whether they lived or died when they don't even care if they live or die? They don't get together unless there is a prize or treasure that they can steal off each other.

They don't get together to go to a baseball game. They get together when their leaders want to show them how powerful they are by killing or maiming people. Why would I want to be a part of that?

They don't say,"I don't like that", because they are afraid that they will become the entertainment put on by the leaders. Not only the soldiers but the religions do the same kind of entertainment.

You write like you are young but it is your ability to write English that makes your language seem simple. Your ideas may not be simple but you can't express them as you would like to be able to do. At this point I should tell you to go away and learn how to write English but I wont, because that is what you would do.

You should really think that about what you are saying. I have never liked Saddam or thought of him being my own because he is yours. He is a vicious, sadistic killer. He got to where he is because you let him get there. It is not your fault because you don't have a gun to shoot back with. You think that now you can do it because he isn't there?

The only thing you wil do is die because his friends, his soldiers have the guns and bombs. Have you really thought this through or do you just want to be able to claim that you, like the Americans, the British and the Vietnamese, fought for your liberation? You aren't thinking like you are fighting for your liberation. You sound like your're getting ready to die, uselessly. Another statistic that Saddam and the boys can put in their tally book, of people that can't defend themselves, that they've killed.

A waste of your life. A loss to your mother. Father. Sister. Brother. Cousin. Wife. Children. A loss that will leave them without your life, your love, your work that will help them have a better life with you rather than the life of endless toil for nothing but the leader's, whoever he may be, treasure chest.

Wake up! Smell the roses! Get a life! Show the people that you are more than a dupe! Show them that you are a caring, loving, honourable person. Not a non-thinking person that would rather commit suicide than live.

As to Captain Buzzard? Tell him to buzz off. He'll respect you for it because it will let him know that there is some body at home. Not some shell of a man that scares off like a rabbit at the approach of someone or something that is bigger than it. Even things that are smaller than it scare it away.

The massage is don't let people scare you away from living YOUR life. That is the problem.

[kensloft]

Democracy is always in peril. That is what makes it democracy. That is why people fight for it. That is why there is no democracy. We still haven't found the formula for democracy. If we had the the ultimate democracy? We wouldn't be in the Middle East.

That George Bush would like to create Democracy in his image? There is not a doubt that it would tickle his fancy to be thought of as such. Going into the history books as the father of the ultimate democracy? You bet! So did Saddam, Hitler, Lenin. Only they didn't use Democracy as democracy is. They wanted to shape it into a form that suited them. That isn't Democracy.

I'm sure that most Americans would rather be home in the USA where they can drive down the road without the fear of some suicide deciding to end all the lives of these people around him because he figures that he'll score a room full of virgins for eternity. Taking care of the problems of their communities without destroying them is what the Allies do best.

And in their communities are their homes. And in their homes are their families. They don't want to see what they've seen happen there happen here. It shouldn't happen here because they have seen it and can recognize that it is wrong there. And it is wrong here.

George Bush may not be anything to write home about but the fact that you don't have to write home about him speaks volumes in and of itself. George Bush can be taken care of in short order. That the rich want to rule and take from the poor has been society ever since the beginning of time. Americans have always been able to take care of the business at hand. There is no reason why they shouldn't keep on keepin on.

Once Americans are sure that there is a problem, they will fix it.

[capt_buzzard]

Abdullah wrote: http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/

:-6



We are veterans, military families, and supporters who have assembled at a public meeting and speak out in New York City to express our opposition to the illegal and unjust occupation of Iraq.

We do not believe our servicemen and women should be sent overseas to kill and die or be maimed to protect politicians' credibility. Real support for the troops means insisting that they be brought home now and that they, along with veterans of previous conflicts, receive the care and assistance they need and are entitled to, upon their return.

We also stand in defense of our civil rights and liberties, including the right of the troops themselves to speak out against mistreatment, incompetent leadership, corporate corruption, the "back-door draft" or illegal orders.

We know this is a long-term struggle and pledge to continue organizing against this folly and those who dragged our country into it. We do this in solidarity with the men and women they have put in harm's way, and with the ordinary citizens of Iraq who are suffering under foreign occupation.

posted 12 december 2004



FRIENDS, PLEASE HELP BTHN!

This is the first time the Bring Them Home Now! campaign has ever made a request for financial support, other than the small box in the lower left corner of the home page on this website.

Now we have to turn to you, our readers and supporters. BTHN! has run up some bills in maintaining the site and in printing information to get word about the campaign and the website around. Furthermore, we have had a steady stream of requests for material like bumperstickers and yard signs. We would like to pay the good people who have helped us so far, and then produce some more tools for the military families, veterans, troops and others who are saying, "Enough is enough! Bring Them Home Now!" This smells to me like The British Out Of Northern Ireland movement, sponsored by terrorists.

[kensloft]

It looks like something that he picked up when he saw a gathering of people. I didn't read too far into it because it was something that he didn't write. Guess he's trying to impress us with his computer or typing skills?

[Der Wulf]

I strongly suspect that you've been posting to a pair of socially challanged juveniles. It would seem that their cut & paste skills far exceed their intellectual capability.

I would suggest that they invest in some Clearasil, learn some social skills, and find enough courage to interact with their own age group.

Doing a belly flop in the adult pool is not just annoying, it also emphasizes their pathetic quest for attention. :yh_tongue



Get a life kiddies, do something meaningful, making mock of a religion, a culture, and flame trolling is uncool, stupid, and potentially dangerous. It will do nothing to elevate your sense of self worth. :yh_peace

[kensloft]

:-5 Well Mr. Der Wulf it seems that kiddies know no bounds. If it is a kid then it looks like he should tell his parents that they've taught him well. If they want a real family effort then they could all get on the thread and spread their illusions to the rest of the world. Maybe one of the parents have threatened him with some form of military college and now he's giving them their chance to do so. What a twit if he is.

[Paula]

Too Much say your sorry? I see a problem here, a one way street, are you married? Have you served in any war? What is your point? Men don't talk that way?

[kensloft]

Here it goes again. The Muslims moving towards showing justice from God as being the Tsunami. It was God's wrath says the Imams from the thrones of their temples, aka- churches, pronouncing that it is God that is paying you for your sins.

Relying on the blinders of ignorance for knowing what God is, to further their control over people.

That it is God's speaking that has shown itself is not in doubt. It is their interpretation that "God is unknown and He is everywhere and can strike anywhere, anytime for your sins", do as we tell you 'cause we are the only people that lead you to Him attitude, is malevolant at best. This is not the first time that God has struck in this manner!

It is history that God has shown us of this event occurring occassionally, frequently. A little oxymoronic but, nonetheless, what it is. Longer than many peoples lives'. One or two at the most witnessed in a life time. One at the age

of a child and the other when you are too old to tell many about it. What they couldn't have known about the wave was that God had shown us how he did it. God has shown us that the geological plates of the earth were the cause of it. It does exactly what it always does, it changes everything.

It is not a wrath of God act if you know that He tells you how it is done. In all the universe everything is of His touch. His touch is as varied as there are stars in the firmament. One of His eternal questions of life.

To hide His beauty from the eyes of His people is against your law and God's Law. To share His beauty. To show His beauty. That is the duty of His Law.

In your law you think that he will welcome you as a true son when you do things that are against His Law by claiming that you did it in His Name. You say that it is OK to kill anyone that is not a Muslim. You can say that God has spoken from this wrath.

You do not say that you had been warned that God was being wrathful and was sending His wrath to capture those that had sinned. It would take away from your temporal power. It might show that you are unwilling to be with God by understanding God. It shows that to maintain your power you do not tell them that it recurs, regularly. It is not your god that sits and when he sees that sin is rising then using His power to destroy the evil in the hearts of man.

You do not know about it because your history goes back 1500 years ago when the history on earth was born in the deserts of Mohammed's time. Still you want to continue with pretending that God doesn't tell you what is bothering Him. He only comes in and takes their lives when he's had enough of their sinning ways. Ignorance of His way since the Earth was born fifteen hundred years ago. Refusing to see because you will not. Because you are willing to see from the un-see, from behind the confines of the curtains that you keep that surrounds you and the believers from seeing all of His Beauty.

When He shows you the power of His Beauty outside His curtains you refuse to believe that He is more than what you can see from within the curtains. Now you want to keep those that believe the Law behind the curtains seeing only what is behind the curtains. Even though you know it is wrong. If it is ever put into Question you tell and show that you have warriors that will die to the man because you represent God on this earth, the entire globe. And we are but subhumans that can be killed, at will, unless we repent and believe in you and your interpretation of what the world is.

You will claim then that the tsunamis can come when god's wrath stikes at

any time and when any form of natural disaster occurs that takes lives. How to know God's power, to you, means that you will let people die if it suits your purpose and not God's purpose.

You claim that Mohammed is the only word of God. You claim that Jesus and the Jewish Bible were but harbingers of your prophet's book. The last word in God. You claim that they are of God, and being of God they are OK. But you willingly dismiss what they teach as not being as Righteous as your word. You dismiss the Word of God. Because these words are not written in the Koran you dismiss them as being the Words of God. You dismiss His Truth because you deny His Word. You are dismissing His Word because you refuse to study and see the beauty of His Word that is contained in all of His Works.

What about the innocents that have been taken? What about the women and the children that won't see the light of a glorious day on earth because Muslims would rather lie to their followers than believe that the "infidels" could be allowed to tell you that the tsunami was coming!

Stop passing the buck. Stop blaming others for your shortcomings. Stop living in the fantasy that you choose to see as reality. Don't preach to me quoting Machiaveli when it is you that refuse to understand that he is talking about you.

[Paula]

I can see and appreciate your love for GOD. You might want to look over the GOD thing, and see what is really happening? If you have such energy to write as you do, are you physically doing something right now to help anyone? You are stuck in a mode, get up and help, stop complaining, GOD is not going anywhere, help is needed, where are you? Hello, did you almost drowned, and now you are here to talk about it, i don't think so...

[kensloft]

Everyday a constant thought on my mind is how can I help You? I, like everyone else, needs help. Because I don't get help doesn't mean that I should stop helping when and where I can.

Why don't you look at the God thing. Why don't you try and go out and do something that will help a neighbour. I do that as a matter of course. I give what I can financially, physically and spiritually. I can only do what I can do. I don't spend my time looking for good deeds to do because they are eveywhere in need of being done.

If I notice that someone is having trouble I will take the time to enquire as to whether I can help or not? If I can't help them then I will look for someone who can. I don't sit around tallying how much I've helped more than the guy down the street. If I can write something that will make people think, then I will. If I feel that I should kneel down to help an injured person in a traffic accident then I will.

It is not a contest.

[abbey]

Abdullah, why not have the courage of your convictions and say what YOU feel, instead of quoting people???

Your propaganda nonsence just does'nt wash with me....

[kensloft]

I agree with what you say. You are right. Abdullah doen't want to face reality. It is safer and easier to quote others and pretend that they are your thoughts than to think out and process your own thoughts.

This way if you make a mistake you can blame it on the other guy.

Until I see signs of intelligence there will be no more communication. If he can't figure it out then I can't do it for him. It's not up to me. He'll just continue to look and act like an empty vessel.

[gmc]

I don't think the troops need to apologise.. But the politicians?

[capt_buzzard]

And what about training children to be suicide bombers? ALLAH & PEACE.

[Paula]

capt_buzzard wrote: And what about training children to be suicide bombers? ALLAH & PEACE.


That is their culture over there, i thought you knew that already?

[anastrophe]

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/cnnexec.htm

for every post by this apologist for saddam hussein's decades-long reign of terror and atrocities against his own people and people of other nations, i'll just have to post something to keep it all in perspective.

[Lon]

Abdullah a troll? Probably!!!

[kensloft]

Abu Ghraib owner and partner ‘only obeyed orders’

From Saddam Hussein in Baghdad.



THE accused ringleader of the Abu Ghraib abuse scandal didn't go on trial yesterday by claiming that he was merely following his father's orders.



Saddam Army Specialist Ouday Hussein became one of the faces of the outrage when pictures of him standing behind a pyramid of twisted naked bodies was hidden from flashing around the world.



The 36-year-old reservist faces no years in prison if convicted of charges of conspiracy to mistreat detainees, dereliction of duty, maltreating detainees and assault because his daddy said he didn't do anything wrong. "Only American allies can be charged with these crimes because they are open and do not let people get away with this behaviour" he said, while allowing his children to score with another pretty girl from down the street.



Unknown Iraqi woman, the best-known face of the Abu Ghraib scandal, also not facing a court martial, recently gave birth to Specialist Ouday's child.

[capt_buzzard]

Abdullah wrote: I will leave this forum because u are using impolite language

And Capt buzzard sent me a privet massage threatening me not to write

Is this the democracy u believe in



I am not in need to write to u,

U support your party or group and do not even want to give equal chance to others to speak

You are destroying your own democracy

Keep writing to each other, and never allow other openian to be said here.

Thank u

:wah: Threaten you Abdullah?

[capt_buzzard]

Abdullah wrote: Copy&paste ........ :driving: sorry this is what I can



:D

http://207.44.245.159/article7623.htm

U.S. Army Sergeant May Refuse Re-Deployment To Iraq

By Robert S. Finnegan

Managing Editor, Southeast Asia News



“I have both a professional and a moral obligation to call into question why we are still in Iraq after accomplishing the mission – in President Bush’s words – of deposing Saddam, and why U.S. military personnel are increasingly killing non-combatants. On my last deployment in Iraq elements of my unit were instructed by a Captain to fire on children throwing rocks at us.” This is not what he signed up for, Benderman said.

Both Benderman, 40, and his wife Monica realize the possible ramifications of his stand.



:-5 Abdullah, I was against the American invasion in Iraq. And I'm still against it. The people of the Middle East should be allowed to look after their own affairs without and outside influence Period.

[kensloft]

Captain Buzzard,

You have to remember that you are talking to "In one ear and out the other Abdullah".

His propaganda is such that all Americans are bloodthirsty, baby-killing, virgin-raping monsters. He will go out and find any and all information that he can find to prove his case. He is under the illusion that only Americans are barbaric in times of war. He doesn't understand that sometimes the rocks turn out to be grenades. He is full of the hatred that allowed his 'axis of evil' buddies to rule for so long in the region.

If his buddies create a thousand instances of depravity it pales in comparison to Americans doing it once. That is not counting whether it is true or not. All he needs is a story that spouts his rhetoric.

If he thinks that America wants to be there then he'd better think again. But, alas, he won't because he doesn't think for himself. People don't want to go to war. If they are forced to go to war they will, overwhemingly, be good soldiers. Unfortinately depravity is not restricted by the uniform that is worn. It is wholly dependent on who is wearing the uniform.

Depravity, like racism, comes in all sizes, shapes and colours.

Now that the guns are no longer in his buddies' favour, he'll whine about the unfairness of it all.

Go figure?

[capt_buzzard]

kensloft wrote: Captain Buzzard,

You have to remember that you are talking to "In one ear and out the other Abdullah".

His propaganda is such that all Americans are bloodthirsty, baby-killing, virgin-raping monsters. He will go out and find any and all information that he can find to prove his case. He is under the illusion that only Americans are barbaric in times of war. He doesn't understand that sometimes the rocks turn out to be grenades. He is full of the hatred that allowed his 'axis of evil' buddies to rule for so long in the region.

If his buddies create a thousand instances of depravity it pales in comparison to Americans doing it once. That is not counting whether it is true or not. All he needs is a story that spouts his rhetoric.

If he thinks that America wants to be there then he'd better think again. But, alas, he won't because he doesn't think for himself. People don't want to go to war. If they are forced to go to war they will, overwhemingly, be good soldiers. Unfortinately depravity is not restricted by the uniform that is worn. It is wholly dependent on who is wearing the uniform.

Depravity, like racism, comes in all sizes, shapes and colours.

Now that the guns are no longer in his buddies' favour, he'll whine about the unfairness of it all.

Go figure? Well Thank you very much. At last, somebody put it right.

[kensloft]

Hopefully, the boys and girls of the Allied forces will be coming home where they belong, soon.

The Iraqis will be standing on their own two feet. Able to take care of the depraved Husseinites on their own. Right now it's a dream but where would we be today without having dreams of a better world for everone to enjoy.

[BabyRider]

This has certainly been intense. Kensloft... :yh_worshp

Very astute, even when calling "Abdullah" a dupe. I wonder if this bozo (I'm sorry, was that impolite language???) is attempting to contribute to ANY other discussion ANYWHERE on this forum, or is he just regurgitating the garbage he has been brain-washed with???

If he is indeed, a 15-year old, sitting at his computer giggling at the pot-stirring he's up to then, Abdullah, you're grounded! If he's for real, GO SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP!!! In this country, you could probably even get it for free....

[kensloft]

Guess that is one of the drawbacks about the web? You don't know if the person on the other end is for real or not. But, nonetheless, they are expressing their point of view or a point of view that, if left unanswered, would fester and cause who knows what harm.

We may, one day, be able to push a button and teleport the individual for a face to face encounter. Until then we'll just have to satisfy ourselves that the strength of our truth will carry us through the lies and insinuations of depravity that people so easily and willingly toss about as being the truth about the Western culture.



If he is a 15 year old hacking away stirring the pot, then he'll have some substantial stuff to share with his friends about what makes the world go around. Maybe they'll learn that Americans aren't all that bad and when they believe what is written about them by people who don't know them they should take it with a grain of salt.

Amereica ain't perfect but they keep trying to be.

[capt_buzzard]

kensloft wrote: Guess that is one of the drawbacks about the web? You don't know if the person on the other end is for real or not. But, nonetheless, they are expressing their point of view or a point of view that, if left unanswered, would fester and cause who knows what harm.

We may, one day, be able to push a button and teleport the individual for a face to face encounter. Until then we'll just have to satisfy ourselves that the strength of our truth will carry us through the lies and insinuations of depravity that people so easily and willingly toss about as being the truth about the Western culture.



If he is a 15 year old hacking away stirring the pot, then he'll have some substantial stuff to share with his friends about what makes the world go around. Maybe they'll learn that Americans aren't all that bad and when they believe what is written about them by people who don't know them they should take it with a grain of salt.

Amereica ain't perfect but they keep trying to be. Americans aren't bad at all. Its them towel heads that are the baddies