Proper pronunciation, please

SOJOURNER · Post by **SOJOURNER** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:51 pm

I think it depends on whether you are from the northern or southern part.......

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:52 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Is it scone like cone or scone like con? I've checked various sites and even the Brits can't seem to agree.

Thanks.

I thought it was wee scone.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:53 pm

scone=con

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:53 pm

Scone like cone who really knows sneezer but one thing I do know is after I die, wherever my spirit goes, I'm going to try to get back and visit my skeleton at least once a year, because, "Hey, old buddy, how's it going?"

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:55 pm

ComfortablyNumb · Post by **ComfortablyNumb** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:57 pm

Its con. The other pronumciation is considered very non-U (not Upper Class).

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:58 pm

Its both, the way you say it will depend on where you are and how much money you have.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:03 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Utah considers fried flat bread a scone. I was very disappointed the first time I got one with breakfast.

I agree. I had one and it was crappy, like a mouthful of old hard bread but old hard bread would have tasted better.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:07 pm

Don't knock our scones you impudent yanks! They are very nice if served warm with lots of melted butter! They probably gave you the stale ones coz you wouldn;t know the difference!:wah:

If you are reffering to the inferior "Utah" scone, I immeadiatly retract all earlier statements.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:08 pm

HEY! i make scones from scratch and they are fabulous!!:p

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:14 pm

lady cop wrote: HEY! i make scones from scratch and they are fabulous!!:p

Seeing as you are the only one between the 2 of us who is allowed to legally use lethal force I am forced to agree! Also, I am a good cook, but I am crap at making cakes, my scones would probably better be used as munitions than as things to have with your tea. :-3

P.S. Do you use current or raisins?

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:15 pm

currents of course.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:16 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: This is the closest I could find to a "Utah" scone (fried bread)... subtract the filling in the photo, its flat and usually covered with honey.

Snooze dearest, that is not a scone, that is a confused pancake.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:17 pm

lady cop wrote: currents of course.

Excellent, you will definetly prosper in your new life in British Isles.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:20 pm

Galbally wrote: Excellent, you will definetly prosper in your new life in British Isles. have some tea luv.....

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:23 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: That's what I've been trying to tell you! Its barbaric.

My poor girl, I never realized how difficult it must be for you in Utah with these unholy atrocities being passed off as breakfast food! I thought that you were having a go at our cherished Tea Scones of world renown, I always seem to get the wrong end of the stick. Well, you do have quite nice flapjacks and maple syrup is pretty tasty as well.

Your faithful effeminate and morally dubious European friend, Galbally.

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:26 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: This is the closest I could find to a "Utah" scone (fried bread)... subtract the filling in the photo, its flat and usually covered with honey.

That looks like a tortilla ......

ahh you said Utah

but then again there isn't anybody from the UK that likes what they find here in California (except maybe Starbucks)even then I bet they wouldn't pass.....what do we know about Scones..........Come on....we were sold that 'English Muffin' myth too......(now that I think about it)

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:28 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Is that some Irish pickup line? Cuz lemme tell you, its working.

She has nice flapjacks ? Oh boy....:rolleyes:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:30 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Is that some Irish pickup line? Cuz lemme tell you, its working.

Oh bloody hell, you are incorrigible, you really are. I was of course referring to the famous American breakfast, not some seedy sexual innuendo, though of course if I was intent on some double entrede I wouldn't say it was intended either, know what I mean? Anyway, how do you like your breakfast, and what time should I start cooking it? :rolleyes:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:33 pm

StupidCowboyTricks wrote: That looks like a tortilla ......

ahh you said Utah

but then again there isn't anybody from the UK that likes what they find here in California (except maybe Starbucks)even then I bet they wouldn't pass.....what do we know about Scones..........Come on....we were sold that 'English Muffin' myth too......(now that I think about it)

Yeah, what the hell are "English Muffins" cause I was born in England and I've never seen them? I do remember these weird flat things when I was a kid that we used to toast, maybe it was them?

Just as a sidetrack, my mate (friend) lived in L.A. and he said that the seafood was good, so not everything is bad in Cali.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:36 pm

Hey, thing are great in Cali! Best Mexican food, seafood, many ethnic dishes..........have to make everything from scratch back here in East.............

*flipping fat little torts*

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:38 pm

tomAto - tomato

potAto - potato

tortiya - tortilla

bernaliyo - bernalillo

Yanito - Llanito

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:40 pm

Try those double rr"s NV, I bet you do them better them me...............

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:40 pm

Galbally wrote: Yeah, what the hell are "English Muffins" cause I was born in England and I've never seen them? I do remember these weird flat things when I was a kid that we used to toast, maybe it was them?

Just as a sidetrack, my mate (friend) lived in L.A. and he said that the seafood was good, so not everything is bad in Cali. split and toast.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:43 pm

lady cop wrote: split and toast.

Hmmn, they kind of resemble something like I remember, but they are definetly not the same either. I blame the French, they are always up to no good.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:43 pm

chonsigirl wrote: Try those double rr"s NV, I bet you do them better them me...............

I was talking the double LL as a "y". I can't do the tongue roll for the "r's". Way too much southern white girl in me. :-3

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:44 pm

they have little nooks and crannies for melted butter, they're good. the french, on the other hand, suck snails.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:46 pm

Always took the double LL's as y's too, sometimes with a little of the "j" on it if I'm talking to Spanish speakers from other countries where they do that.

Forget those double rr's.

No es possible para mi!

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:46 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: tomAto - tomato

potAto - potato

tortiya - tortilla

bernaliyo - bernalillo

Yanito - Llanito

Other weird pronouciations things

Carr-i(e sound)-be-an (British) Carrib-ean (American)

Alum-in-ium (British) Aumin-um (American)

Nonce (British) George Bush (American)

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:48 pm

Bothwell says i have to say aluMINium and filleT among other weirdness.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:53 pm

chonsigirl wrote: Always took the double LL's as y's too, sometimes with a little of the "j" on it if I'm talking to Spanish speakers from other countries where they do that.

Forget those double rr's.

No es possible para mi!

little "j" is "hee" as in julio and jesus

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:53 pm

The French suck snails ? :-3

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:55 pm

Galbally wrote: Other weird pronouciations things

Carr-i(e sound)-be-an (British) Carrib-ean (American)

Alum-in-ium (British) Aumin-um (American)

Nonce (British) George Bush (American)

I must have some British in me then.............

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:55 pm

Nomad wrote: The French suck snails ? :-3
:wah:

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:56 pm

Nomad wrote: The French suck snails ? :-3yeah, only they pretentiously call it escargot.............................

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:56 pm

lady cop wrote: Bothwell says i have to say aluMINium and filleT among other weirdness.

You certainly do, a fille is a young horse, and if you say alumin-um people will smile sadly, nod in agreement, and then ring the mad house.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:00 pm

lady cop wrote: yeah, only they pretentiously call it escargot.............................

Erm I think thats because the French word for Snail is Escargot actually. You will find that they use many different words than us, in fact all of them. :wah:

Actually apart from the snails, frogs legs, and erm horses, French food is fairly cracking, don't let Bothwell completely put you off them, apart from the fact that they are French, they are fine, and quite pleasant occasionally, and they do know how to cook. You wana feel bad, try Scandinavian food, thats (as you might say) a world of hurt.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:05 pm

and if i draw my weapon the entire country surrenders, right? then of course there's the infamous gallic shrug and supercilious waiter....but i like the wine. :-6

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:38 pm

lady cop wrote: and if i draw my weapon the entire country surrenders, right? then of course there's the infamous gallic shrug and supercilious waiter....but i like the wine. :-6

Well they might well surrender if you were at the head of several large Panzer Divisions and a few score Battalions of Wermacht Stormtroopers, some Prussian armies and the Luftwaffe but then again so would the Brits if they didn't have the Channel in the way, of course the Brits would fight till they were living in rubble and firing bricks at the tanks, so would we, we are all mad round here and we like a punch up once in a while, but the Americans well, they were a bit different, they got organized, they intended on actually winning, and they did!

What I did notice about the French is that they are grand, but they are contrary, they will get all lairy at the slightest thing, and they will goad you and goad you till you smack em, then they settle down. Yeah the wine is nice, but its the cakes that really do it for me, outrageous, and none of this diet nonsense, its the full cream, dairy butter, 3 million calorie job for them. They eat choclate bread for breakfast every day and they are still skinny! Just as a guide I will provide a useful template when dealing with the varied types of Europeans.

English: aloof, but sturdy, don't mention the lack of Empire or the EU, good at cruel humour, strange devotion to fluffy animals.

French: contrary, but deciptively hardy, good cooks, bad T.V. Don't like immigrants. Like causing trouble, currently having a go at the U.S. as a diversion from their most enjoyed sport, baiting the English.

Germans: Again a sturdy crowd, but very tough, and a bit pedantic. You can mention the war if you want, but don't expect them to enjoy it. They now seem to put all their effort into making cars, which are generally excellent.

Irish: Friendly, but also incorrigable chancers, and will make jokes at your expense. Like a drink or 16, and fight each other much better than anyone else.

Scots: Like the Germans, tough cookies, in your face, but nice once you stop being afraid of them. They eat too much fried food. Do not get into a fight with them, they will bit your leg off, and then laugh and make up with you, but you have still lost your leg.

Welsh: Good singers, a bit strange, they are themselves.

Spanish: Good Catholics, talk very fast, great at soccer, bad at Empires.

Italians: Charmers, good at the civilization thing, very bad soldiers, good sports cars, truly excellent food, the best in Europe by far.

Dutch: Like stoned Germans. Eat Chocolate Sprinkles with everything, must be the hash. Good at making money.

Swedes: Annoyingly reasonable about everything, big into sex.

Norwegians: Independent, hippies, very bad at the Eurovision song contest.

Belgians: Like sober French people, but they still manage to run the EU.

Swiss: Hmmnn, keep to themselves, anyone that messes with them has an unfortunate habit of disappearing, forever.

Portuguese: Not as much like Spanish people as you might think, nice girls.

Austrians: Conservative, bit too German, even for the Germans. Big Mountains, lots of cheese.

Poles: Like a slavic version of the Irish, nice, but don't lend them your life savings, they will drink them.

Russians: Very, very hard. If they didn't drink so much Vodka and mess with stupid ideas like communism we would be in trouble.

Czechs: Great Beer, lovely women, have liberal gun laws (there you go, were not all gun haters), don't get on with russians.

Greeks: Like the gym, fancy themselves, but do have some good points.

Balkans: (serbs, croats, bosnians etc etc) Leave it alone, they havn't sorted themselves out yet.

Hungarians: No idea, don't have a reputation for anything really, even Dracula was Romanian.

Romanian: See above, do a good Dracula impersonation.

There are more, but I'm running out of ideas for insulting my fellow Europeans, basically we are all drunk commies who couldn't afford the boat to ellis island, ah well.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:45 pm

Gal, that was utterly brill!! as to this......... English: aloof, but sturdy, don't mention the lack of Empire or the EU....i torment Bothwell constantly about the fact there's nothing left but pitcairn. and i torture him re: bunker hill and boston harbor. he likes to refer to me as a colonial. but i'm italian. your synopsis was superb!!

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:06 am

Galbally wrote: Well they might well surrender if you were at the head of several large Panzer Divisions and a few score Battalions of Wermacht Stormtroopers, some Prussian armies and the Luftwaffe but then again so would the Brits if they didn't have the Channel in the way, of course the Brits would fight till they were living in rubble and firing bricks at the tanks, so would we, we are all mad round here and we like a punch up once in a while, but the Americans well, they were a bit different, they got organized, they intended on actually winning, and they did!

What I did notice about the French is that they are grand, but they are contrary, they will get all lairy at the slightest thing, and they will goad you and goad you till you smack em, then they settle down. Yeah the wine is nice, but its the cakes that really do it for me, outrageous, and none of this diet nonsense, its the full cream, dairy butter, 3 million calorie job for them. They eat choclate bread for breakfast every day and they are still skinny! Just as a guide I will provide a useful template when dealing with the varied types of Europeans.

English: aloof, but sturdy, don't mention the lack of Empire or the EU, good at cruel humour, strange devotion to fluffy animals.

French: contrary, but deciptively hardy, good cooks, bad T.V. Don't like immigrants. Like causing trouble, currently having a go at the U.S. as a diversion from their most enjoyed sport, baiting the English.

Germans: Again a sturdy crowd, but very tough, and a bit pedantic. You can mention the war if you want, but don't expect them to enjoy it. They now seem to put all their effort into making cars, which are generally excellent.

Irish: Friendly, but also incorrigable chancers, and will make jokes at your expense. Like a drink or 16, and fight each other much better than anyone else.

Scots: Like the Germans, tough cookies, in your face, but nice once you stop being afraid of them. They eat too much fried food. Do not get into a fight with them, they will bit your leg off, and then laugh and make up with you, but you have still lost your leg.

Welsh: Good singers, a bit strange, they are themselves.

Spanish: Good Catholics, talk very fast, great at soccer, bad at Empires.

Italians: Charmers, good at the civilization thing, very bad soldiers, good sports cars, truly excellent food, the best in Europe by far.

Dutch: Like stoned Germans. Eat Chocolate Sprinkles with everything, must be the hash. Good at making money.

Swedes: Annoyingly reasonable about everything, big into sex.

Norwegians: Independent, hippies, very bad at the Eurovision song contest.

Belgians: Like sober French people, but they still manage to run the EU.

Swiss: Hmmnn, keep to themselves, anyone that messes with them has an unfortunate habit of disappearing, forever.

Portuguese: Not as much like Spanish people as you might think, nice girls.

Austrians: Conservative, bit too German, even for the Germans. Big Mountains, lots of cheese.

Poles: Like a slavic version of the Irish, nice, but don't lend them your life savings, they will drink them.

Russians: Very, very hard. If they didn't drink so much Vodka and mess with stupid ideas like communism we would be in trouble.

Czechs: Great Beer, lovely women, have liberal gun laws (there you go, were not all gun haters), don't get on with russians.

Greeks: Like the gym, fancy themselves, but do have some good points.

Balkans: (serbs, croats, bosnians etc etc) Leave it alone, they havn't sorted themselves out yet.

Hungarians: No idea, don't have a reputation for anything really, even Dracula was Romanian.

Romanian: See above, do a good Dracula impersonation.

There are more, but I'm running out of ideas for insulting my fellow Europeans, basically we are all drunk commies who couldn't afford the boat to ellis island, ah well.

What about the Danes then Gally ???? ...HOW many bank holiday days do they have ????? HOW much income tax do they pay....strange country....

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:34 am

The danes, the dane, damn, I missed out on them, well I did all right considering I was thinking of the top of my head! I shall add an adendum to the list.

The Danes. Too Many bank holidays, make up fairy stories, but generally decent.

The Finns. Bad food, good fighters, hardy, a tendency toward depression.

Luxembuorg: The clever ones, stuck in between France and Germany, they always seem to come out of any trouble smiling, and with lots of cash.

The Bulgarians: Again not a well known quantity, other Europeans are currently taking lots of holidays to Bulgaria to check what this crowd are like, expect a report soon, cheap property market apparently.

Icelandics: Mentalists, surrealists, will go to war with a country 160 times bigger than themselves over fish, total eco-warriors, live of the heat from volcanoes, party animals, also big into sex.

The Scillians: A subgroup of the Italians, not to be trifled with, as you are probably well aware, have killed more Italian judges and coppers than the Nazi's ever did. Good at extortion, vendetta's, immigrating, also like all Italians have good taste and excellent food.

Ukranians: Not the same as the Russians, more easy going, good footballers, nasty history, generally well liked.

The Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) all different, yet similar, bit like a mix between the Finns, the Swedes, and the Russians.

The Basques: A subgroup of the Spanish, but don't tell them that they will kill you. They have the most bizzare language in Europe, its not a European language for a start, they have do a good line in Nationality based terrorism, bit like the Irish, except even madder. The dark horses of Europe, expect more from them in the coming years.

Cypriots: Another problem group, they have a big civil war style problem, but its a nice island, friendly, but don't discuss Greek/turkish relations with them.

Turks: A controversial one, are they really Europeans, I say yes, though obviously being a muslim country they are a bit different than most, generally fine once you explain to them that your women are not for sale. Nice food, good beachfront property, a bit macho, like the Greeks, whom they don't get on with.

Slovenia: A hidden treasure, rich and peaceful, bit like the Swiss of the Balkans, the Serbs tried to have a war with them, lasted about 3 days, then the Serbs realized that the Slovenes do not mess about so they went home to Belgrade.

Slovakia: Again, an under-rated place. Bit similar to the Czechs though they hate it when people say that, Bratislava is apparently a good spot for some fun.

Byleorus: A messed up country, has not adjusted to the collapse of Communism at all, even the Russians are embarresed by their antics.

Ibiza, Spanish, Party Capital of Europe, bring your own drugs, the women are free.

Malta: Nice, bit mad, fought off all comers during WWII with the help of the Royal Navy, generally alright.

Right I have run out of ideas again, anyone else can add whatever they like. I'm off.

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:52 am

I used to work in a reatil store that saold some furniture but mostly home decor, and we would always die laughinf because once a week without fail someone would come in and point to some sconses (skon-sez) and say, "Can I have that scone (skohn, long O sound, like cone)) right there?

sconses: things they hang on the wall and hold candles

scones: food

jennyswan · Post by **jennyswan** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:44 am

We say scone, like scown