What Do you know about Al Jehad in Islam?

[friend]

Salaam to all

Islam is a religion which is based upon achieving peace through the submission to the will of Allah. Thus, by this very simple linguistic definition, one can ascertain as to what the nature of Islam is.

If Islam is based on the notion of peace, then how is it that so many acts done by its adherents are contrary to peace? The answer is simple. Such actions, if not sanctioned by the religion, have no place with it. They are not Islamic and should not be thought of as Islamic.

the meaning of jihad, as a 'holy war', is something which is totally foreign and not from Islam. It was terms like this which were used to justify the slaughter and pillage of towns and cities during the crusades by the Christians. By simply looking into the sources of Islam, one is able to know that the true meaning of jihad is to strive/make effort in the way of Allah. Thus striving in the way of Allah can be both peaceful and physical. The Prophet Muhammed (saws) said:

"The best jihad is (by) the one who strives against his own self for Allah, The Mighty and Majestic" In the Qur'an, Allah also says:

"So obey not the disbelievers, but make a great jihad (effort) against them (by preaching) with it (the Qur'an)"

(Surah Al-Furqan 25:52)

By controlling and fighting against ones desires, the Muslims can then also physically exert themselves in the path of Allah. It is this physical jihad which receives so much criticism. Because of the sheer ignorance, of this type of jihad Islam is regarded as terror, and Muslims are regarded as terrorists.

There are another type of Jehad which came from the same idea that people must fight for peace which is combative jihad being both defensive and offensive, it is something which is commanded by Allah upon the Muslims. Through this command the oppressed and weak are rescued from the tyranny of the world:

"And what is the matter with you that you do not fight in the cause of Allah and for those weak, ill treated and oppressed among men, women and children whose only cry is; 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors and raise for us from you one who will protect and raise for us from you one who will help"

(Surah An-Nisa 4:75)

Anyone who knows the early history of Islam, will know that all those nations and empires which came under the fold of Islam were indeed previously oppressed. When the companions of the Prophet Muhammed (saws) went out for the offensive jihad against the Egyptians, the Persians and the Romans, we find that the people did not resist against them at all.

We should know that the first call for Jehad in Islam came when they were tortured and suffered by the autocracy of Macca people (Mushrekeen) many years ,they didn’t resist these conditions because they thought that Allah wouldn’t give them the permeation to fight. But Allah give them the permeation to defense themselves and to help other suffering people .

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So I want to ask you all : What do you know about Al Jehad in Islam??????

[capt_buzzard]

Peace,that's a dirty word today or didn't you know?

[friend]

capt_buzzard wrote: Peace,that's a dirty word today or didn't you know?


Salaam

capt_buzzard,I'm not agree with you ,Peace our great target

[capt_buzzard]

So Says Gerry Adams in Northern Ireland

[koan]

capt_buzzard wrote: Peace,that's a dirty word today or didn't you know?


Very funny.

I believe that was the good captain's dry humour, friend.

I am very excited to read these posts. It is great that we finally have a chance to learn more about this fascinating religion. The concept of fighting against oneself is common with Buddhism. The greatest challenge to open one self to receive wisdom, knowledge, peace and enlightenment is to defeat the constant chattering of the mind and the desires of the ego.

Re jihad, it is unpleasant how words or concepts can be used by some to justify negative actions and thereby stain the word or concept. A jihad as a personal struggle is actually a very beautiful thing.

[Bill Sikes]

capt_buzzard wrote: So Says Gerry Adams in Northern Ireland


Police say IRA behind bank raid

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4154657.stm

[abbey]

So whoever DID do it, have 8 weeks to spend £26.5 Million before they change the notes, phew bummer....... :-2

[capt_buzzard]

Bill Sikes wrote: Police say IRA behind bank raid

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4154657.stm I'd well believe it Bill

[capt_buzzard]

friend wrote: Salaam to all

Islam is a religion which is based upon achieving peace through the submission to the will of Allah. Thus, by this very simple linguistic definition, one can ascertain as to what the nature of Islam is.

If Islam is based on the notion of peace, then how is it that so many acts done by its adherents are contrary to peace? The answer is simple. Such actions, if not sanctioned by the religion, have no place with it. They are not Islamic and should not be thought of as Islamic.

the meaning of jihad, as a 'holy war', is something which is totally foreign and not from Islam. It was terms like this which were used to justify the slaughter and pillage of towns and cities during the crusades by the Christians. By simply looking into the sources of Islam, one is able to know that the true meaning of jihad is to strive/make effort in the way of Allah. Thus striving in the way of Allah can be both peaceful and physical. The Prophet Muhammed (saws) said:

"The best jihad is (by) the one who strives against his own self for Allah, The Mighty and Majestic" In the Qur'an, Allah also says:

"So obey not the disbelievers, but make a great jihad (effort) against them (by preaching) with it (the Qur'an)"

(Surah Al-Furqan 25:52)

By controlling and fighting against ones desires, the Muslims can then also physically exert themselves in the path of Allah. It is this physical jihad which receives so much criticism. Because of the sheer ignorance, of this type of jihad Islam is regarded as terror, and Muslims are regarded as terrorists.

There are another type of Jehad which came from the same idea that people must fight for peace which is combative jihad being both defensive and offensive, it is something which is commanded by Allah upon the Muslims. Through this command the oppressed and weak are rescued from the tyranny of the world:

"And what is the matter with you that you do not fight in the cause of Allah and for those weak, ill treated and oppressed among men, women and children whose only cry is; 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors and raise for us from you one who will protect and raise for us from you one who will help"

(Surah An-Nisa 4:75)

Anyone who knows the early history of Islam, will know that all those nations and empires which came under the fold of Islam were indeed previously oppressed. When the companions of the Prophet Muhammed (saws) went out for the offensive jihad against the Egyptians, the Persians and the Romans, we find that the people did not resist against them at all.

We should know that the first call for Jehad in Islam came when they were tortured and suffered by the autocracy of Macca people (Mushrekeen) many years ,they didn’t resist these conditions because they thought that Allah wouldn’t give them the permeation to fight. But Allah give them the permeation to defense themselves and to help other suffering people .

__________________

So I want to ask you all : What do you know about Al Jehad in Islam?????? Tell us how ISLAM is going to take over the West?

[koan]

capt_buzzard wrote: Tell us how ISLAM is going to take over the West?


Maybe by letting the West destroy itself with vanity?

[capt_buzzard]

friend wrote: Salaam to all

Islam is a religion which is based upon achieving peace through the submission to the will of Allah. Thus, by this very simple linguistic definition, one can ascertain as to what the nature of Islam is.

If Islam is based on the notion of peace, then how is it that so many acts done by its adherents are contrary to peace? The answer is simple. Such actions, if not sanctioned by the religion, have no place with it. They are not Islamic and should not be thought of as Islamic.

the meaning of jihad, as a 'holy war', is something which is totally foreign and not from Islam. It was terms like this which were used to justify the slaughter and pillage of towns and cities during the crusades by the Christians. By simply looking into the sources of Islam, one is able to know that the true meaning of jihad is to strive/make effort in the way of Allah. Thus striving in the way of Allah can be both peaceful and physical. The Prophet Muhammed (saws) said:

"The best jihad is (by) the one who strives against his own self for Allah, The Mighty and Majestic" In the Qur'an, Allah also says:

"So obey not the disbelievers, but make a great jihad (effort) against them (by preaching) with it (the Qur'an)"

(Surah Al-Furqan 25:52)

By controlling and fighting against ones desires, the Muslims can then also physically exert themselves in the path of Allah. It is this physical jihad which receives so much criticism. Because of the sheer ignorance, of this type of jihad Islam is regarded as terror, and Muslims are regarded as terrorists.

There are another type of Jehad which came from the same idea that people must fight for peace which is combative jihad being both defensive and offensive, it is something which is commanded by Allah upon the Muslims. Through this command the oppressed and weak are rescued from the tyranny of the world:

"And what is the matter with you that you do not fight in the cause of Allah and for those weak, ill treated and oppressed among men, women and children whose only cry is; 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors and raise for us from you one who will protect and raise for us from you one who will help"

(Surah An-Nisa 4:75)

Anyone who knows the early history of Islam, will know that all those nations and empires which came under the fold of Islam were indeed previously oppressed. When the companions of the Prophet Muhammed (saws) went out for the offensive jihad against the Egyptians, the Persians and the Romans, we find that the people did not resist against them at all.

We should know that the first call for Jehad in Islam came when they were tortured and suffered by the autocracy of Macca people (Mushrekeen) many years ,they didn’t resist these conditions because they thought that Allah wouldn’t give them the permeation to fight. But Allah give them the permeation to defense themselves and to help other suffering people .

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So I want to ask you all : What do you know about Al Jehad in Islam?????? Pro Pakistani outfit

[koan]

Most people know only what they read in the papers. Ask Noam Chomsky what he thinks about newspapers. (Chomsky - most quoted intellectual in the States) The papers are full of propaganda and pap. They are used to create popular opinion and to coerce people into supporting the agenda of the local government.

[capt_buzzard]

At this point, Al Jehad....Who cares.

[koan]

I think lots of people care. Including you or you wouldn't have bothered responding. :sneaky:

[friend]

capt_buzzard wrote: Tell us how ISLAM is going to take over the West?


Alsalaamu Alyckum

It is important for all to know that Muslims cannot act unjustly against anybody according to the Qur'an, even when there is hatred and enmity. If wrong has been done by Muslims, they were violating Allah's commands in the Qur'an. So please understand that Muslims do not want to kill Christians or anybody. They are allowed to fight only for self defence as the last resort. Only when their existence as Muslims is threatened can they fight. Just as you have every right to defend your beliefs we too have our right to defend our beliefs. We don't want to impose our beliefs on you especially because the Qur'an says:

" There is no compulsion in religion; Truth stands out clear from Error" (2: 256).

Here, from the Qur'an itself, which we have faith was literally dictated by God, through the angel Gabriel, to Muhammad: "Those who believe in the Qur'an. Those who follow the Jewish Scriptures, and the Sabians and the Christians-- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." (5.69)We accept Jews and Christians as believers and accept that there are hanifs: legitimate monotheists outside of a tradition. We consider Abraham to be hanif.

The opening of the Qur'an is considered to contain its essence:

In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful...

Glory to God! Lord of the worlds!

The Compassionate, the Merciful.

Master of the Day of Judgment!

You alone we worship,

You alone we turn to for help.

Guide us to the straight path,

the path of those whom You have favored,

not that of those with whom You are angry,

nor of those who have gone astray.

Muslims2 pray this at least 17 times a day!

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It is a common complaint among some non-Muslims that Islam would not have millions of adherents all over the world, if it had not been spread by the use of force. The following points will make it clear, that far from being spread by the sword, it was the inherent force of truth, reason and logic that was responsible for the rapid spread of Islam.

1. Islam means peace. Islam comes from the root word ‘salaam’, which means peace. It also means submitting one’s will to Allah (swt). Thus Islam is a religion of peace, which is acquired by submitting one’s will to the will of the Supreme Creator, Allah (swt).

2. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace. Each and every human being in this world is not in favour of maintaining peace and harmony. There are many, who would disrupt it for their own vested interests. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace. It is precisely for this reason that we have the police who use force against criminals and anti-social elements to maintain peace in the country. Islam promotes peace. At the same time, Islam exhorts it followers to fight where there is oppression. The fight against oppression may, at times, require the use of force. In Islam force can only be used to promote peace and justice.

3. Opinion of historian De Lacy O’Leary. The best reply to the misconception that Islam was spread by the sword is given by the noted historian De Lacy O’Leary in the book "Islam at the cross road" (Page 8):

"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever repeated."

4.Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. The Muslims in Spain never used the sword to force the people to convert. Later the Christian Crusaders came to Spain and wiped out the Muslims. There was not a single Muslim in Spain who could openly give the adhan, that is the call for prayers.

5. 14 million Arabs are Coptic Christians. Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians i.e. Christians since generations. If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian.

6. More than 80% non-Muslims in India. The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non-Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword.

7. Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. May one ask, "Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia?"

8. East Coast of Africa. Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. One may again ask, if Islam was spread by the sword, "Which Muslim army went to the East Coast of Africa?"

9. Thomas Carlyle. The famous historian, Thomas Carlyle, in his book "Heroes and Hero worship", refers to this misconception about the spread of Islam: "The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword? Every new opinion, at its starting is precisely in a minority of one. In one man’s head alone. There it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword and try to propagate with that, will do little for him. You must get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can."

10. No compulsion in religion. With which sword was Islam spread? Even if Muslims had it they could not use it to spread Islam because the Qur’an says in the following verse: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error" [Al-Qur’an 2:256]

11. Sword of the Intellect. It is the sword of intellect. The sword that conquers the hearts and minds of people. The Qur’an says in Surah Nahl, chapter 16 verse 125: "Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." [Al-Qur’an 16:125]

12. Increase in the world religions from 1934 to 1984. An article in Reader’s Digest ‘Almanac’, year book 1986, gave the statistics of the increase of percentage of the major religions of the world in half a century from 1934 to 1984. This article also appeared in ‘The Plain Truth’ magazine. At the top was Islam, which increased by 235%, and Christianity had increased only by 47%. May one ask, which war took place in this century which converted millions of people to Islam?

13. Islam is the fastest growing religion in America and Europe. Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe in Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers?.

I Know that some people here will reply in the way that reflect their personality and behaviors , but I like to communicate with those whom search about the truth and respect themselves by respect others even if they didn't agree with my believe .

Thanks to all

[capt_buzzard]

The USSR, spoke of peace many times during the cold war days of 1950s/1970s and had their nuclear war heads pointed at the west.