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Md. Woman Arrested After Newborn Found In Storm Drain

POSTED: 3:53 pm EST November 30, 2005

UPDATED: 6:37 pm EST November 30, 2005

TOWSON, Md. -- Baltimore County, Md., police have arrested a 22-year-old woman and charged her with first-degree murder in the death of her newborn child.

Police said Danielle Eboni Riley gave birth to her baby on Oct. 3 at a residence for students at Villa Julie College in Owings Mills, Md. They said a student reported that when she tried to get into the restroom earlier that day, Riley had the door locked and said she was sick.

The witness said she believed she heard what might have been the weak cries of an infant, and later found blood in the bathroom and in Riley’s bedroom.

Police began searching for Riley and tracked her to her family’s home in Prince George’s County, Md. Riley's mother told investigators that the young woman had admitted giving birth the day before.

Polce said the mother told them she had learned that Riley admitted putting the baby’s body in a plastic bag and then placing it in a nearby storm drain. An autopsy performed on the child ruled that the death was a homicide, caused by asphyxia, blunt force, head injury and environmental exposure.

A court commissioner denied bail and Riley has been held at the Baltimore County Detention Center until a bail review by a judge.

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An autopsy performed on the child ruled that the death was a homicide, caused by asphyxia, blunt force, head injury and environmental exposure.
This is why i believe in the death penalty. If you could do this to a newborn, you sure as heck could do it to anyone. :-5
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There is no reason why this should be happening any more.

There are many couples, and singles, who would be so joyful of the opportunity to take her unwanted baby.

Do you think that this pregnancy might have been a denial, and after the trauma of the birth she was in such a panic as to what she was going to do, that she did this terrible thing?

The term "out of my mind" seems to fit here really well. I cannot wrap my mind around a sane person doing such a thing.
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another reason these cases are so horrific is that a woman can leave a living newborn at any fire station, police dept. or hospital anonymously. and with no repercussions.
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Robinsegg...you KNOW I am about to go off just as I did in the Andrea Yates thread because I got my monthly visitor AGAIN!!!! Im closing in on 14 months of trying to get pregnant and this F%^#ING sorry a$$ piece of $hit puts a baby in a plastic bag, AND hits it in the head too to kill it!!! I am darn near "pi$$ed off tears" right now. I am so angry I am shaking!!! ITS NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want to put my hands around her f^%#ing neck and squeeze until I see her eyeballs pop out of her face and bounce down the street!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would have taken that baby with no questions asked......dont we have programs at hospitals where babies can be dropped without prosecution?

I cant take this today!!! Im so upset, I never should have opened this thread, I know it!

OOOHOOHHOHOHOHOOHOHOHOOHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOHOOHHH!

I am going to scream!!!! If she doesnt get the death penalty??????????????

Oh, God, really. This is bull$hit!






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AND

I live less than an hour away from the bitch!






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I apologize for any expletives I have used in the above posts. I do not want to offend anyone with such horrible language. Please just bleep it out when reading. Sorry and thank you for allowing me to vent so explicitly.






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DesignerGal wrote: I apologize for any expletives I have used in the above posts. I do not want to offend anyone with such horrible language. Please just bleep it out when reading. Sorry and thank you for allowing me to vent so explicitly.


You are NOT alone in your feelings. You just happened to be the one that vented it.
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Lads, I don't want to sound like a wishy washy here, but surely there is something desperatly wrong with any mother who would kill a newborn child? I think I would need to see all the facts of the case before I called for her to be executed? I can understand why other women would be beyond fury at this, but you need to step back and see what is wrong with this woman. I know that some mothers are just bad sods who couldn't give a toss about life, but in some cases its young girls who have basically gone cracked because of pregnancy and just do the most horrific things to cover it up. There have been quite a few sad cases like this in rural Ireland.
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I just cant get over this story. Its got to be the most horrible thing I have ever heard.

If I started putting up a webpage and sitribute my number with a note that says: If you are in trouble, I will take your baby. I am a private citizen, I will not tell on you..." Can I be charged with anything criminal. Because I will seriously start taking in babies if these girls are too scared to even drop them off at Police, Fire, Hospital, etc. Would I get in trouble?






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Galbally wrote: Lads, I don't want to sound like a wishy washy here, but surely there is something desperatly wrong with any mother who would kill a newborn child? I think I would need to see all the facts of the case before I called for her to be executed? I can understand why other women would be beyond fury at this, but you need to step back and see what is wrong with this woman. I know that some mothers are just bad sods who couldn't give a toss about life, but in some cases its young girls who have basically gone cracked because of pregnancy and just do the most horrific things to cover it up. There have been quite a few sad cases like this in rural Ireland.


I cant excuse it. I dont care what the "reason" is behind her actions. Teens give birth all the time. There is adoption, teen mother programs, and with programs put in place where you can DROP A NEWBORN OFF NO QUESTIONS ASKED AT ANY HOSPITAL, FIRE STATION, AND POLICE STATION, there should be no reason to crack up. If she is scared to go to the police station, and even fire station, why not the hospital? Why not leave it on someone's doorstep like back in the day? Its incomprehensible! And maybe I am the wrong person to try to justify this to.






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Don't even know if Dan Casey would be that evil.

I thought people could legally drop babies off at firestations? As the previous poster mentioned.

Is that just certain states?

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LottomagicZ4941 wrote: Don't even know if Dan Casey would be that evil.

I thought people could legally drop babies off at firestations? As the previous poster mentioned.

Is that just certain states?

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http://www.law.msu.edu/library/substant ... 4_Buhl.pdf

This all the info on the Save Haven Laws. There are currently 46 states with these laws in place. Maryland being one of them.






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DesignerGal wrote: I cant excuse it. I dont care what the "reason" is behind her actions. Teens give birth all the time. There is adoption, teen mother programs, and with programs put in place where you can DROP A NEWBORN OFF NO QUESTIONS ASKED AT ANY HOSPITAL, FIRE STATION, AND POLICE STATION, there should be no reason to crack up. If she is scared to go to the police station, and even fire station, why not the hospital? Why not leave it on someone's doorstep like back in the day? Its incomprehensible! And maybe I am the wrong person to try to justify this to.


DesignerGal, I am not trying to justify killing anyone, let alone a newborn infant, I understand that this is extremely emotional, I'm not being glib, and I' m not trying to impress anyone with my reasonableness. I don't know anything about this case, she may well just be a bad piece of work. But you can't let your emotions run riot, sometimes men and women do go nuts and do things that are just incomprehensible and even evil, being mad doesn't excuse someone, but it can help to explain the unexplainable. Its like you said, its not hard to just leave a baby safe at a police station or something, but sometimes people just behave inexplicably.

For instance, there is a case of a young man here in Ireland who is being tried for murder. In this case a neighbours young boy was throwing stones at this young man's car. Now the parent maintain that these 2 were actually very close friends and the young man has never shown a hint of being criminal. But for some reason he got annoyed with the child, he grabbed him, there was a scuffle, he ended up suffocating the boy, subsequently he panicked, hid his young friends body and eventually was caught as the killer, whatever the motivtions, these seem to be the basic facts of the event. That case is still being tried, so he might well be found guily of murder and sentenced to life. There seems to be no question that he killed the boy, but it seems there is some doubt as to whether he really intended to kill, or it just went out of control. Again I'm in no way justifying this, but its got to be looked at dispasionatly with everything taken into account, because of the fact that a childs life has been taken, his family are destroyed, a young mans life is ruined, his family are destroyed, everyone has an angle on it, eveyone thinks they know what happened, but who does? Thats why we have professional police and courts to try and decide on things that are so awful. I'm not here to upset you, I don't have any special wisdom to impart, I'm just asking that you try and step out of your feelings for a minute and assess it dispassionatly. If you can't, thats fine, I understand, but I think it might help if you could for your own sake.
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even if she didn't realise she was pregnant up until her labour, there were plenty of avenues she could have taken to ensure her anonnymity and the baby's safety...blunt trauma for christ's sake:( It's hardly on a par with leaving a baby on a doorstep wrapped in a blanket.
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SnoozeControl wrote: The visualization of someone trying to bash in the head of a weak helpless baby is the thing that upsets me so much. She didn't just kill it, she brutalized it.


exactly, she didn't conceal a birth, she actively murdered a new born. If you or I took someone's baby and bludgeoned it, we'd be castigated and rightly so. In my eyes, the fact that it was her own child makes it worse, not a set of mitigating circumstances.
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An autopsy performed on the child ruled that the death was a homicide, caused by asphyxia, blunt force, head injury and environmental exposure.


I don't give a damn what her reasons were. This is unexcusable and unjustifiable.

If she snapped, then give her a lethal injection so she never snaps again. It's total crap saying she may have had her reasons. She murdered a newborn. She bashed its skull in AND smothered it. There is no freaking excuse for it. NONE.:mad: :-5
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My heart breaks for that sweet angel....and for the mothers and fathers who try to have children and can not conceive...:( My brother and his wife have tried since 2000 - and yet to conceive -and all of my brothers and sister would look like we wanted to be pregnant and we were blessed with a child.. I have always said--if I could carry a child for any one- I would do it...I would give them the joy of parenthood with out a dime asked...what a blessing it is to be a surrogate if you do it for the right reasons... There is a woman in Des Moines that has 4 children and has had 4 more for people..she does get paid but uses the money for her kids college..a friend of my SIL used her and she insists that the money go into a bank with her child's name on it and thats where it stays..some people think it is wrong - but I guess if she blesses a family with a newborn then so be it...I can not judge that...My prayers are with all of you that struggle with this...:yh_pray


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It all sounds so callous and premeditated to me. She didn't go to a hospital, she locked herself in.

She must have really hated that baby to do that. I know a lot of kids see babies as an inconvenience or a career ender, but no-one is that callous. Maybe the pregnancy came as a result of rape or incest. There has to be a reason.

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yes, the reason is unprotected screwing.there is nearly no excuse for unwanted pregnancy today. i cannot count the number of these cases we have had in miami, and in the US in general. these are girls who think this is a form of birth control. i had a daughter at 18, i was going to college. i gave her for adoption, she had wonderful parents and an ideal life! and she and i are best friends today.
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I just want a child to love and I could have loved this one even though it didnt come from me. I cant get past the fact (that others have stated) that she hit this baby in the head. SHe put it in a plastic bag and left it in a storm drain. She told her mother and the mother didnt do anything...she waited to be contacted by police a full day later. The apple doent fall far from the tree and maybe the daughter went mad because of the pregnancy, but what the heck is her mother's excuse? Sympathy post partum depression? Sympathy shock? Bull$hit!

And its not like she was a child! We are talking about a 22 year old college student for God's sake. A 22 year old woman who is old enough to know right from wrong.

I wont budge on this one because Im so heartbroken for that innocent beautiful baby who did nothing to deserve what it got. All she had to do would at the very least, leave him/her somewhere for someone to find in order to be saved.:-5 :-5 :-5






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Galbally wrote: Lads, I don't want to sound like a wishy washy here, but surely there is something desperatly wrong with any mother who would kill a newborn child? I think I would need to see all the facts of the case before I called for her to be executed? I can understand why other women would be beyond fury at this, but you need to step back and see what is wrong with this woman. I know that some mothers are just bad sods who couldn't give a toss about life, but in some cases its young girls who have basically gone cracked because of pregnancy and just do the most horrific things to cover it up. There have been quite a few sad cases like this in rural Ireland.


Galbally, what are you implying when you say you need to see all the facts?? Aren't the ones we have enough? Give me a break!! With what we know, I know what is wrong with this animal. This was a young college student that found herself pregnant and didn't want a baby. Period. You sound as if this excuse would be an exception? That would make what she did ok? Do you realize what she had to do to kill this little baby? Can you only imagine? The force it took, the time it took. It was not an easy task, and very calculated. It was not a split second thing. While she killed her baby, she took the time and was deliberate. She is an animal. This happened because she needs to be executed or at least locked up. She is sick and if this hadn't happened something else would have. You would have eventually heard about her. I say sizzle her!!!
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DesignerGal wrote: I just cant get over this story. Its got to be the most horrible thing I have ever heard.

If I started putting up a webpage and sitribute my number with a note that says: If you are in trouble, I will take your baby. I am a private citizen, I will not tell on you..." Can I be charged with anything criminal. Because I will seriously start taking in babies if these girls are too scared to even drop them off at Police, Fire, Hospital, etc. Would I get in trouble?


DesignerGal....I would say get a lawyer to see you through. Put ads in papers and go start buying your diapers!!! Private adoptions are done every day. Much quicker than going through an agency. But I would not do this without a lawyer. I am praying for you!
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robinseggs wrote: Galbally, what are you implying when you say you need to see all the facts?? Aren't the ones we have enough? Give me a break!! With what we know, I know what is wrong with this animal. This was a young college student that found herself pregnant and didn't want a baby. Period. You sound as if this excuse would be an exception? That would make what she did ok? Do you realize what she had to do to kill this little baby? Can you only imagine? The force it took, the time it took. It was not an easy task, and very calculated. It was not a split second thing. While she killed her baby, she took the time and was deliberate. She is an animal. This happened because she needs to be executed or at least locked up. She is sick and if this hadn't happened something else would have. You would have eventually heard about her. I say sizzle her!!!


Yes, hmmn, well I suppose what I mean by the facts, would be a case from a prosecuting attorney, that would be solid enough to convict her in the first place, of whatever crime she has been charged with. Sentencing would depend on, the law regarding sentencing, where its held, and what the judge thinks, thats generally known as "due process",,,,,, oh its just some crazy idea we have about laws and things, you know, its kind of boring, but apparently much fairer than calling for people to be executed based on media reports and hearsay, but you go with whatever makes you happy.
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Galbally wrote: Yes, hmmn, well I suppose what I mean by the facts, would be a case from a prosecuting attorney, that would be solid enough to convict her in the first place, of whatever crime she has been charged with. Sentencing would depend on, the law regarding sentencing, where its held, and what the judge thinks, thats generally known as "due process",,,,,, oh its just some crazy idea we have about laws and things, you know, its kind of boring, but apparently much fairer than calling for people to be executed based on media reports and hearsay, but you go with whatever makes you happy.
Shouldn't be too hard to prosecute someone who took the time to bash their baby's head and suffocate it, should it? They'll have to decide if it was premeditated or not. She had the last night months to think about the day her baby was born so I would say it was premeditated. Whether I read it online, in the newspaper, you told me about it, it still does not change the fact that he/she was murdered by the mother. Why or how could you even begin to defend or excuse her actions? I don't get it.:-5
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contrary to popular perception, premeditation can legally occur in seconds. and if the baby is shown by autopsy to have taken a breath, it's defacto premed.
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Now this is just plain sick and l hope that if she meets her makes that he lets her know just what a callous hateful b**** she is.:mad: :-5
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Peg wrote: Shouldn't be too hard to prosecute someone who took the time to bash their baby's head and suffocate it, should it? They'll have to decide if it was premeditated or not. She had the last night months to think about the day her baby was born so I would say it was premeditated. Whether I read it online, in the newspaper, you told me about it, it still does not change the fact that he/she was murdered by the mother. Why or how could you even begin to defend or excuse her actions? I don't get it.:-5


I'm not defending her in particular, just the idea of Trial by a court, and not by public opinion. And no, neither am I saying that people don't have a right to an opinion on this, of course they do, I personally just wouldn't call for someone to be executed, based on what I heard on a website, that all. Look, I'm not interested in making apologies for people who murder babies, I just asked someone earlier on to try and get some perspective on such cases, which is obviously a waste of time, so fire away.
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here's another one....how sick is this???



BOGALUSA, La. ” A mother was booked on a charge of :siteSearch(' first-degree murder');">first-degree murder for allegedly placing her 3-month-old son in a clothes dryer and turning it on.

The infant had :siteSearch('third-degree burns');">third-degree burns over 50 percent of his body and suffered blunt force trauma to the head, the St. Tammany Parish coroner said.

Police Sgt. Darryl Darden said Lakeisha Adams, 18, called police to her home on Monday to report that someone had killed her child. When officers arrived, they found Jailand Adams on a sofa. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

Darden said Adams admitted during questioning to putting the infant in the dryer and turning it on, but did not say why.

Adams also has a 1-year-old child who was placed in state custody, police said.

If convicted, Adams faces death by injection or a life sentence. The first-degree murder charge is mandatory under Louisiana law because the victim was under age 12.


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Now just one person please stand up and tell me why this bitch should not receive the DP - just how can a person like this ever redeem themselfs and be a productive member of society - i would let them die in public by firing squad. .
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Oh no!! Poor wee soul :(

How could she :confused:
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