Sending a man to Mars

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:47 pm

What are we waiting for ?........more brave souls.

SOJOURNER · Post by **SOJOURNER** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:56 am

For one thing, back then they did not have the whole world critiquing their every decision.

jpcme · Post by **jpcme** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:53 am

They can fake it just like they did with the moon landing.:wah:

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:19 pm

what are we waiting for...many many many trucks loaded with money.

sending a man to the moon was an extreamely costly buisiness, hence why the program was terminated.

nasa now hopes to have a man back on the moon by 2017 and to star the construction of lunar bases.

the question is will china beat them there?

after the moon becomes a permenant esstablishment Mars will be incredibly more affordable and easier.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:48 am

The NASA budget was substantially higher in the 1960s, percentage wise. We need to increase it again, and get rid of the pork barrel stuff-we need to again be active in the space race!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:54 am

We need to find a reason for private enterprise to do it. Virgin developed a space shuttle cheaper and easier to control than NASA's. They can do the same for the rest of space exploration..

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:39 pm

Are you volunteering Arnold?

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:53 pm

You must be an actor then. Lost interest but might check out the finale in a few ticks

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:31 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: I thought the programme had potential when it started but it was reduced to a farce with some astonishingly bad American accents. A lost opportunty
Can see this programme featuring in all those "worst TV moments" on a regular basis

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:50 pm

No you're right. Like a firework that failed to go off

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:36 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: Money isnt the issue, its political will and as Accountable said private companies will find ways to make it cheaper. The US and Russia must put in more effort as a combined unit. Lets have another space race along with the Chinese if necessary.

Sending a man to the moon would be cheaper in comparison to doing it in 1969. Then we had the cost of 10 or so years of research and development. Men went to the moon with the computing power of an average family saloon. We are much more sophisticated and able to make an efficient job, given the political will

money is the biggest issue, yes it's exponentialy cheaper but that doesn't mean it's not very expensive esspecially when we want to build lunar bases, start mining opperations and have regular flights too and from the moon. it all adds up.

yes the private enterprises are just begining to get there foot in space and make things cheaper, $200,000 for 2 hours in space is what virgin are charging, but the governments have got to get there first.

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:42 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: Where there is a will there is a way. We had the will in the 60's but it went out of fashion. If the world spent a fraction of their defence budget on space exploration we'd get that spirit back

well the US government did at least spend a large fraction of its defense budget on the star wars program... which failed.

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:14 pm

yeah once the monopely goes and every major airline starts to get there hands on the technology.

what i can't wait for is LEO hotels.

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:19 pm

well not with esscalating fuel prices it won't be.

perhaps they could start using spacefuel for aircraft.

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:23 pm

no i think there useing the same ingredients in Tyre rubber and laughing gas.

plus a little aviation fuel.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:26 pm

I don't care what they use as fuel.. I just hope I still above ground and can make the trip .. would love to go..

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:29 pm

I'm in Arnie I will even take the worst seat just so I can go..!!

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:30 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: We'll have to organise a FG outing in 2015

we can go on a solar sail cruse, i'll drive.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:32 pm

That sounds cool.. can I ride shotgun..!! :driving:

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:33 pm

Accountable wrote: We need to find a reason for private enterprise to do it. Virgin developed a space shuttle cheaper and easier to control than NASA's. They can do the same for the rest of space exploration..

There was a news report of building a privately owned space port here in NM. I think you are right and others with money have jumped on the band wagon. Rich people want to do the shuttle thing. It isn't very far from there that private enterprise will take up some space costs. Heck, look at Russia - they are already charging millions. I know for a fact I was born centuries too early.

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:33 pm

knowing the way is half the problem, gotta have that extra stong sunblock and those extra thick sunglasses. ooh and aircon

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:36 pm

having Lady Cop around will come in handy if there are space pirates.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:36 pm

Whoops.. dated myself...!! raygun ,,, shotgun just so I'm in the ship..!!:D

Er...raygun Carla

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:21 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: There was a news report of building a privately owned space port here in NM. I think you are right and others with money have jumped on the band wagon. Rich people want to do the shuttle thing. It isn't very far from there that private enterprise will take up some space costs. Heck, look at Russia - they are already charging millions. I know for a fact I was born centuries too early.Yeh, but the rich SOBs want the state to foot the bill to build the spaceport! What's up with that?!?