is pat robertson going to heaven?

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:41 pm

US Christian broadcaster says Sharon's stroke divine retribution

US evangelical broadcaster Pat Robertson suggested Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine retribution for "dividing God's land" of Israel, igniting his latest trademark controversy.

As the Israeli prime minister battled for life, Robertson seemed to suggest to viewers on his "700 Club" television show that Sharon was being punished for his policies in Gaza and the West Bank.

"The prophet Joel makes it very clear that God has enmity against those who, quote, 'divide my land.' God considers this land to be his.

"You read the Bible, he says, 'This is my land.' And for any prime minister of Israel who decides he's going carve it up and give it away, God says, 'No. This is mine.'"

Robertson, who frequently provokes outrage with his remarks, said he was "sad" to see Sharon fall sick, and that he was a "very likeable person."

"I prayed with him personally. But here he is at the point of death. He was dividing God's land, and I would say woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the EU, the United Nations or the United States of America."

"God said, 'This land belongs to me, you better leave it alone.'"

Robertson also appeared to suggest former Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, murdered in 1995, had also paid the ultimate price for talking peace.

"He was tragically assassinated, and it was terrible thing that happened, but nevertheless, he was dead."

Robertson's latest blast drew immediate condemnation from Israel's ambassador to the United States.

"Such things are very outrageous. I would expect this only from people like (President Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad in Iran ... I wouldn't expect it from any of our friends," ambassador Danny Ayalon told CNN.

The US Anti-Defamation League also piled on Robertson's "outrageous and shocking" comments.

"His remarks are un-Christian and a perversion of religion. We would hope that good Christian leaders would distance themselves from Pat Robertson's remarks," the ADL said in a statement.

"It is pure arrogance for Robertson to suggest that he has divine knowledge of God's intent and purpose based on his interpretation of scripture."

Robertson, who ran for president as a conservative in 1988, and often urges supporters on his show to support President George W. Bush, frequently unleashes rhetorical hand grenades.

In October, he said a recent spate of natural disasters pointed to the end of the world and the imminent second coming of Jesus Christ.

In August, Robertson said the United States should assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, but later apologized for the remark.

He also suggested voters in a Pennsylvania town should not expect God's help should they face a natural disaster after they ousted a school board which had mandated the teaching of creationism.

Last year, he suggested that the threat to the United States from liberal "activist judges" was "probably more serious than a few bearded terrorists who fly into buildings," a reference to the September 11 attacks. He has also lambasted Disneyland and the United Nations.

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:58 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: My fave Robertson quote:

The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians.

-- Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992

:-3 -oh my!

"[on Gay Day at Disney World] "I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate; this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes and possibly a meteor." "The 700 Club" June 6, 1998

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:11 pm

Doesn't God Save the Queens? :-2

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:14 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Yeah, God's known for flinging meteors at homosexuals.:rolleyes:

Gee, looking at the date he said it, I thought 911 was the "Gay's" fault

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:17 pm

Accountable wrote: Doesn't God Save the Queens? :-2

You may want to ask Ann Bolin.

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:19 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Yeah, God's known for flinging meteors at homosexuals.:rolleyes:

Is that anything like Jay flinging tiles?

SOJOURNER · Post by **SOJOURNER** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:28 pm

That question will only be decided between God and Pat at a later date. I can only answer for my own future life.

For me, Pat's public outbursts are an embrassment as he does not reflect true Christian values and actions. It is a shame that there are those who will lump all Christians under this one public identity and justify their lack of faith to the deeds of individuals such as Pat.

SOJOURNER · Post by **SOJOURNER** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:53 pm

flopstock wrote: Not to worry SOJOUNRNER, it's the Pat's of the world that make the real christians of the world an example to those of us who aren't. He is so far off the norm, that good, decent, caring christians get our sympathy ...and that may be just the foot in the door you need sometimes..

That's a good insight. I'll hold on to that thought. :-6

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:59 pm

i don't equate all Christians with pat robertson, quite the contrary...i think he's the antithesis of a Christian, or of any tolerant faith.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:11 pm

He's like David Letterman, except by accident. [smilie=1,32,21]

greydeadhead · Post by **greydeadhead** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:42 am

Unfortunately... all the publicity he gets by making such outlandish, idiotic, insulting comments creates a pretty unsavory image of fundamentalists.. no matter what the religion. Perhaps it the media ignored the moronic statements by such individuals they would not get the attention they crave...

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:52 am

You didn't leave an address. [smilie=10,26,25]

Three preachers were discussing pastors' pay & how much of the church offering they should keep for themselves & how much should go to God.

Preacher 1: I stand before the cross and draw a line on the floor, then throw the money in the air. What God wants he'll make fall on his side; what falls on my side is mine.

Preacher 2: I draw a circle on the floor and throw the money in the air. What God wants he'll make land inside the circle; what falls outside is mine.

Preacher 3: I throw the money in the air. I figure what God will catch what he wants, so what falls back down must be mine! [smilie=2,33,34]

Teach4life · Post by **Teach4life** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:04 pm

SOJOURNER wrote: That question will only be decided between God and Pat at a later date. I can only answer for my own future life.

For me, Pat's public outbursts are an embrassment as he does not reflect true Christian values and actions. It is a shame that there are those who will lump all Christians under this one public identity and justify their lack of faith to the deeds of individuals such as Pat.

It was becuase of people like him who made it sooo difficult for me to become a Christian and for me to then actually profess my faith. So sad....I have pity on him. It must be hard being so hateful.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:35 pm

I don't get this. Why do his views get any airing at all?does he have a large following or what?

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:19 pm

gmc wrote: I don't get this. Why do his views get any airing at all?does he have a large following or what?

It's "The New World Order"

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:48 pm

He owns his own cable TV network so he gets on the air. What he says is embarassing to fundamental Christians and , by extension, Bush, so he gets broadcast news time.

BruiserKC · Post by **BruiserKC** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:41 pm

Pat Robertson does not speak for me. I'm sure right now God is up in heaven scratching His head wondering, "How did someone get this guy to pretend to be my messenger?"

911 · Post by **911** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:59 pm

Maybe he is God's messenger. God is saying, see what a fool you make of yourself when you think you all that?