Brokeback Mountain

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:23 pm

[quote=Jives]Pfft. Let's get this straight, Clancy. When I got into this thread everyone who had posted was for the film.

I'm against it. I consider it despicable, detestable and abhorrent.

What that means is that I'm antagonistic to you, not insulting.

Instead of bashing me for believing in old-fashioned values, why not consider what I've said? You, yourself, know that I'm standing up for all that's good in the world.

Why is that a bad thing?

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You would crucify Abraham Lincoln..........Was he gay?

Hmmmmmmmm???????

franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:31 pm

Yavanna wrote: Anyone seen this yet? It sounds intriguing, and very well made.

Or is it just the subject matter which is getting all the attention ?
Hi

I saw it last night and absolutely loved it. I can't stop thinking about it, to be honest.

The cinematography was simply stunning, and Heath Ledger's performance was a complete revelation. If he doesn't win an Oscar there's something seroiusly wrong.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:35 pm

Hello franx, welcome to FG...............................

franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:36 pm

Thank you

franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:48 pm

It looks like I might have chosen the wrong forum to have signed up to.

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:49 pm

franx wrote: Hi

I saw it last night and absolutely loved it. I can't stop thinking about it, to be honest.

The cinematography was simply stunning, and Heath Ledger's performance was a complete revelation. If he doesn't win an Oscar there's something seroiusly wrong.

Or one of these guys took it:

Joaquin Phoenix

Philip Seymour Hoffman

Matt Dillon

franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:50 pm

Well I'd be happy with Joaquin Phoenix winning it as well.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:52 pm

franx wrote: It looks like I might have chosen the wrong forum to have signed up to.

Please, please don't say that Franx!!

I loved the cinematography in that movie, too. If you've been through

this thread, you saw my earlier post that I thought it was a good movie.

Stick aroun, I for one (and I'm sure not the only!!) would like to see

more posts from you!! REALLY!

:-6

franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:54 pm

That's incredibly sweet valerie, thanks for that it made me smile.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:56 pm

franx wrote: It looks like I might have chosen the wrong forum to have signed up to.

Definitely not the wrong forum, though you've kinda caught us with our knickers in a twist in this particular thread. :wah:

Look around first before fleeing. This is the heart of 'Where Great Minds Don't Think Alike' and it allows us all to do this here as well as joke around on lighter subjects elsewhere.

Welcome! :-6

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:57 pm

Far Rider wrote: Hey Val Let me take a stab at your question cause I think its a very valid one.

The more mainstream the idea is that homosexuality is "as normal as they can make it" is what I object to... I object to the movie even being made becasue it involves homosexuality. Now I can't change that, I can't legislate or stop it even if I wanted to. But if you watch that movie, you leave yourself open to being changed by it.

Do you have nieces and nephews? They can say in their hearts it must be ok cause Aunt Val saw it?

This movie in my opinion is the "soft core approach". Its worse than if it was gay porn. Thy've made it an "innocent love story" awww dont you feel sorry that society wont let them be together?

Thats the approach.

It's just more gay agenda, but more subtle.

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GIVE ME A BREAK!

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:06 pm

Far Rider wrote: hehehe what a break... dont you love this debate stuff?

smile stu!

i love you even if your gay!

Is that what you're calling that these days......

Were you not in Midnight Cowboy?:)

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:07 pm

Far Rider wrote: Hey Val Let me take a stab at your question cause I think its a very valid one.

The more mainstream the idea is that homosexuality is "as normal as they can make it" is what I object to... I object to the movie even being made becasue it involves homosexuality. Now I can't change that, I can't legislate or stop it even if I wanted to. But if you watch that movie, you leave yourself open to being changed by it.

Do you have nieces and nephews? They can say in their hearts it must be ok cause Aunt Val saw it?

This movie in my opinion is the "soft core approach". Its worse than if it was gay porn. Thy've made it an "innocent love story" awww dont you feel sorry that society wont let them be together?

Thats the approach.

It's just more gay agenda, but more subtle.

I do have nieces and nephews, Far. All but 2 are well into adulthood

with children of their own. All but 2 are Mormon. My having seen this

movie is not something that will ever be brought up with any of them.

I don't think *I* have been "changed" by this movie. But I'm a pretty

tough old broad, it's true.

I just don't think "kids" are going to want to see this movie so much

as some others think they might. Young teenage males in particular

I would think have a serious "ick" reaction to even the thought of

two GUYS "doing it". But I suppose I could be wrong.

To quote a song "My heroes have always been cowboys...

And they still are, it seems"...

This movie was pure entertainment for me. I dislike the thought of

a lot of censorship that would make it so *I* can't see a movie

like this.

And Far, I understand your concerns, I really do, and I still love and

respect you with all my heart.

There, I said it!

:-4 :-1

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:08 pm

franx wrote: Well I'd be happy with Joaquin Phoenix winning it as well.

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franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:26 pm

I don't understand why you would be offended because the they happen to be cowboys?

How can it mess with you? Do you mean psychologically?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:41 pm

Far Rider wrote: Welcome franx!

Well... hmmm no not psychologically...

They took something I hold dear and mucked it up? how hard is that to understand?

My AV is a cowboy.. I joke and play cowboy here... lots of folks know me here, but new folks dont. And right now becasue of this movie and all the attention its gonna get for the nominations it may be that folks will relate my cowboy to being gay.

I dont much care for that.
Aw, poor Far. :yh_hugs Give us a kiss, baby!

franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:43 pm

Are people really that stupid to believe that just because 2 actors played the part of cowboys that now that group of people are now seen as gay?:wah:

I think I'm going off to find me a cowboy avatar!:wah:

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:48 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Hold on a minute! Abraham Lincoln was gay?:-2

Or possibly Bi........

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:49 pm

franx wrote: Are people really that stupid to believe that just because 2 actors played the part of cowboys that now that group of people are now seen as gay?:wah:

I think I'm going off to find me a cowboy avatar!:wah:

It isn't that, it's the argument of is gay right or not, and to portray gay cowboys seems incredibly wrong for the sake of entertainment.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:50 pm

franx wrote: Are people really that stupid to believe that just because 2 actors played the part of cowboys that now that group of people are now seen as gay?:wah:

[...]
Have you been to San Francisco? :-2

SOJOURNER · Post by **SOJOURNER** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:51 pm

Far Rider wrote: Sojo..hehehe.

Its not tempting fate when you parent in such a manner that you instill confident assurance in morality and doing right no matter what the cost.

I parent expecting my chidlren to obey, and learn right from wrong. My oldest son is a prime example of right parenting. and I'm not tooting my own horn here, I'm passing down generations fo moral behavior and example. There is no reason why my children MUST be "rebellious teens" or go through the "terrible twos", it wont happen, yes they have times of adjusting to hormones etc. but that does not negate my ability to parent them through those times.

My children wont not because I'm going to shield them from it, My children wont because Im going to correctly parent them through making right decisions until they are ready to make their own.

And your oldest is how old?

franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:51 pm

minks wrote: It isn't that, it's the argument of is gay right or not,.

And is it?

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:52 pm

Accountable wrote: Aw, poor Far. :yh_hugs Give us a kiss, baby!

ACC and FarRider sitting in a tree...............

ing

franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:52 pm

Accountable wrote: Have you been to San Francisco? :-2

No I'm afraid not.

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:54 pm

Accountable wrote: Have you been to San Francisco? :-2

Nice pix of you and Far:p

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:55 pm

franx wrote: And is it?

tis wrong in my opinion.

franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:56 pm

KarazePapa wrote: Yes, in answer to your question, there are ignorant people out there that will take this movie and the 2 charcaters and start a ruckus to say that now cowboys who are sheep herders, are gay. .
Then they are wrong and need to be laughed at or educated.

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:57 pm

minks wrote: It isn't that, it's the argument of is gay right or not, and to portray gay cowboys seems incredibly wrong for the sake of entertainment.

It seems to have left the topic pages ago Minx.......Back with the 'Cabret'.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:57 pm

KarazePapa wrote: Franx, first off, welcome to FG. Good folk around here.

Yes, in answer to your question, there are ignorant people out there that will take this movie and the 2 charcaters and start a ruckus to say that now cowboys who are sheep herders, are gay. Come to think of it, we cowboys have always wondered about those sheep herders. Cowboys-they tend and care for cattle. Sheepherders-they tend and care for sheep. So I think we have hit this all wrong. We are no longer talking of Cowboys as we are talking of Sheepherders. Cowboys don't tend Sheep. Think about that.................
Okay. Now I have a sharp pain behind my left eye and you have to make it go away. :yh_doh

SOJOURNER · Post by **SOJOURNER** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:58 pm

franx wrote: It looks like I might have chosen the wrong forum to have signed up to.

Don't go weak-kneed on us, Franx. Stand tall and speak straight (no jab intented :sneaky: ). Your opinion is as valuable as anyone elses............ :-6

franx · Post by **franx** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:58 pm

minks wrote: tis wrong in my opinion.

Thanks for answering.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:00 pm

franx wrote: Thanks for answering.

I think you will never have a better time to stand strong for what you believe without threat of physical harm.