Greek life good or bad?

simonsiegel · Post by **simonsiegel** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:14 pm

Hey. So I'm considering going greek. I've heard a lot of good and bad about it. I read any intersting debate here: Frats good or bad?

But I can't seem to really get my finger on why I'm weary of joining a frat. Everyone says they are so good, great friendships etc. Any thoughts?

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chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:17 pm

*rats*

I thought it was about ancient Greece, one of my favorite topics.

I have no input on this, I never joined one in college, but I bet others will offer some input.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:23 pm

I have never experienced a frat. What exactly is meant by the term 'going greek'?

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:57 pm

What's a frat?

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:58 pm

Fraternity........................

Ruth · Post by **Ruth** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:15 pm

OMG, "going Greek" clearly doesn't mean in the US what it means in Europe! LOLOLOLOL!

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:17 pm

:wah: Learn something every day....................

Dizz · Post by **Dizz** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:29 pm

I dunno but, at a pledge party where my brother was a senior member, he got tossed and broke his clavicle. The brute was a pledge, decided he had a great idea and picked him up and threw him down. Needless to say, that guy was banned. My brother probably deserved it though, he can be pushy. This wasn't a party frat either, it was a business frat.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:45 pm

In England, going Greek means going to a Greek restaurant. Fortunately, I already know what a frat is. As for 'tossed', I just don't want to go there.

Ruth · Post by **Ruth** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:50 pm

I can't explain what going Greek means in Holland without incurring the wrath of the mods. Suffice to say that the term is well known in the red light district of Amsterdam. The working girls usually have a sign up in the window to tell customers whether this form of sex is an option.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:53 pm

There is nothing wrong with frats (Fraternal Organizations). It's a great social outlet, a way to make new and long lasting friendships. Some of the negative things that we read about frats have more to do with the actions of certain individuals within the fraternity than any code of conduct espoused by the frat.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:05 pm

Ruth wrote: I can't explain what going Greek means in Holland without incurring the wrath of the mods. Suffice to say that the term is well known in the red light district of Amsterdam. The working girls usually have a sign up in the window to tell customers whether this form of sex is an option.

Do tell me more. Although I've been to Amsterdam, I've never been to the Red Light District (my interests were otherwise fulfilled). What does this term mean, 'going Greek'?

Ruth · Post by **Ruth** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:15 pm

Use your imagination, Openmind! It is something that not all ladies of the night are willing to provide.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:19 pm

Ruth wrote: Use your imagination, Openmind! It is something that not all ladies of the night are willing to provide.

I'm a man. I'm thick. I need it spelt out to me.

:rolleyes:

Preferably in graphic detail.

Ruth · Post by **Ruth** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:22 pm

I detect an attempt to get rid of me. Do they suspend members here, put them on pre-mod or just ban them for life?

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:29 pm

Ruth wrote: I detect an attempt to get rid of me. Do they suspend members here, put them on pre-mod or just ban them for life?

Hope I haven't offended you, Ruth. Sorry, if I have. Absolutely no offense intended. I for one would not like to see you go, barred or otherwise. Please feel free to rip the vital essentials out of me, just don't leave on my account.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:30 pm

Ruth wrote: I detect an attempt to get rid of me. Do they suspend members here, put them on pre-mod or just ban them for life?Maybe it would be best to pm Openmind who obviously does'nt have such an open mind! :wah:

Ruth · Post by **Ruth** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:41 pm

OpenMind wrote: Hope I haven't offended you, Ruth. Sorry, if I have. Absolutely no offense intended. I for one would not like to see you go, barred or otherwise. Please feel free to rip the vital essentials out of me, just don't leave on my account.

Oh heck, OM, I was teasing, as I believe you were.

But don't expect a graphic PM!:D

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:49 pm

Maybe it would be best to pm Openmind who obviously does'nt have such an open mind!

My mind's open to any suggestion as long as it doesn't involve pain.

But don't expect a graphic PM

Damn, that's the story of my life.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:00 pm

You can always say, "It's all Greek to me!!":wah:

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:28 pm

Well, I want to know too! :-2

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:28 pm

Most of the Fraternities and Sororities in the US have Greek disignations like Alpha Kappa Psi, Gamma Phi Beta, etc. Our original poster has been asked to join a fraternity at whatever University or College he attends. Therefore, going Greek, would be to join a fraternity.

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:29 pm

Lon wrote: Most of the Fraternities and Sororities in the US have Greek disignations like Alpha Kappa Psi, Gamma Phi Beta, etc. Our original poster has been asked to join a fraternity at whatever University or College he attends. Therefore, going Greek, would be to join a fraternity.

But whats that "MOD" meaning?

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:30 pm

IT'S ALL GREEK TO ME!!!!!

:sneaky:

:-4

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:50 pm

Hmm, well I do belong to Phi Alpha Theta, the history honor society-but it's acronym would be: phat-or fat!:wah:

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:16 pm

chonsigirl wrote: Hmm, well I do belong to Phi Alpha Theta, the history honor society-but it's acronym would be: phat-or fat!:wah:

Or PAT.

:rolleyes:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:29 pm

What a strange thread? Again shows how different the English language is from one side of the atlantic to the other.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:46 pm

Galbally wrote: What a strange thread? Again shows how different the English language is from one side of the atlantic to the other.

A word I have noticed in particular, recently, is 'furore'. This is the one word I have noticed, lately, with the most significant difference, not only in spelling, but also in pronunciation.

In the UK, the word is spelt 'furore' and the 'e' at the end of the word is accentuated, [few-or-ay].

In the USA, the word is spelt 'furor' and is pronounced as it is seen [without the -ay].

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:56 pm

It means the same thing, though, doesn't it?

The furor of the howling wind.....................furore..............oh, that would be something to use in poetry, I never saw it spelt like that before.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:08 pm

I always thought fraternities and sororities were for "those football and cheerleader" types. I have since changed my mind. Go for it..........as people have said they CAN be a great social segue into college life.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:26 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: I always thought fraternities and sororities were for "those football and cheerleader" types. I have since changed my mind. Go for it..........as people have said they CAN be a great social segue into college life.

They can also be a stereotypical in the way that everyone is expected to conform to the rules of the frat.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:28 pm

OpenMind wrote: They can also be a stereotypical in the way that everyone is expected to conform to the rules of the frat.

I agree......

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:37 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: I agree......

Having said that, I haven't a clue - having never been anywhere near a frat.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:49 pm

OpenMind wrote: Having said that, I haven't a clue - having never been anywhere near a frat.

OK - don't take this wrong.........bit*h. I said that in a very friendly way. You are very funny. I am still laughing.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:52 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: OK - don't take this wrong.........bit*h. I said that in a very friendly way. You are very funny. I am still laughing.

I love the sound of laughter (even if it is at my expense).:wah:

:-4

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:55 pm

OpenMind wrote: I love the sound of laughter (even if it is at my expense).:wah:

:-4

I thought it was at my expense............LOL

simonsiegel · Post by **simonsiegel** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:03 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: I thought it was at my expense............LOL

Wow this thread is really blowing up. But, nobody is really addressing the key questions? What about the deaths? Parties? Are these acceptable? Would these be reduced be getting rid of Fraternities?

Here is a thread talking about this: Greek life good or bad?

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OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:08 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: I thought it was at my expense............LOL

It has never been a part of my nature to ever take anyone less than seriously, to ever give them less than my heart can give, to ever give them less than I believe is the truth, or to allow them to sit in my chair. The latter is my hidden pleasure, particularly if the sitter also finds pleasure in my chair. Such is my perspective. I demand nothing except acceptance that I exist as a friend.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:08 pm

OpenMind wrote: They can also be a stereotypical in the way that everyone is expected to conform to the rules of the frat.

Not much different than people being expected to conform to the rules of society.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:11 pm

Lon wrote: Not much different than people being expected to conform to the rules of society.

Lon, you are quite perceptive. This is the point of most clubs formed by the young insofar as they emulate adulthood.

God bless them as far as they do not lose their focus.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:28 pm

simonsiegel wrote: Wow this thread is really blowing up. But, nobody is really addressing the key questions? What about the deaths? Parties? Are these acceptable? Would these be reduced be getting rid of Fraternities?

Here is a thread talking about this: Greek life good or bad?

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Don't blame the frats or sororities for the publizised deaths, parties etc. Look at the deaths from some of the college BINGE DRINKING episodes which were not connected to fraternity activities. It's individuals that are to blame for misdeeds not the organizations to which they belong. The organization itself does not espouse harmful or illegal activity. If we are to blame fraternities for the misdeeds of individuals and shut them down as some have proposed, then let's shut down the Universities as well since they house and abet the misdeeds of it's students and faculty.

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:11 am

Heres a cryptic clue to understanding the term Going Greek.. If your old enough to remember. Think of Marlon Brando in a movie called the Last Tango in Paris. The film introduced Americans to a new route for pleasure many years ago.

As for frats.. I was in a sorority in High School They were very popular in the place I grew up. Alpha Sigma Gamma. At the time, I was very pleased to be accepted. Belonging to a group and having " Sorority Sisters was great. It was also instan t

social life. Your popularity was determined by which sorority you were in. And there was one for every group. They really were sort of divided by factors such as religion, looks, brains, etc...... As i matured and evolved into my hippy stage, becoming more opened minded and had more self confidence.. I resigned. I began to feel it was a hindrance to exploring the possibilities of friendships, outside my group. But that was a long time ago......

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:05 am

simonsiegel wrote: Hey. So I'm considering going greek. I've heard a lot of good and bad about it. I read any intersting debate here: Frats good or bad?

But I can't seem to really get my finger on why I'm weary of joining a frat. Everyone says they are so good, great friendships etc. Any thoughts?

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I was in ATO for about 2 minutes. It takes up a lot of time and it got in the way for me so I quit, but you'll make some good contacts.

Hope alcoholism doesnt run in your family. :wah: