Church Government

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All of us that have attended services would at some time heard sermons on the subject of Church government. However is this teaching the true structure that Christ wanted put in place, or is this an area were self serving men have twisted scripture for their own gain? The feast of Tabernacles pictures the Kingdom of God, where His Government is set up for ever and will never be corrupted. This is the example that Christ and His apostles tried to teach and demonstrate, sadly this form of Government, despite all the sermons and congregations talk of love and fellowship, TV show broadcasts, booklets, pamphlets, door knocking and what have you, has never been put into action or even tried, as it was meant to be!

What is Church Government anyway? What should it be? When you read on, I think you’ll find out.

Webster's dictionary defines government as:

1) The exercise of authority;

2) A system of ruling and controlling;

3) All the people or agencies that administer or control affairs.

Sounds like the average Church Government! But what is Church Government and how should it be administered? Do we indeed need a Government when we’re all supposed to be following God’s laws?

Many Church groups were organized around a very structured hierarchical set of offices. God the Father supposedly was at the top. Just below Him is Jesus Christ. After Jesus is the human head to represent God’s government here on Earth or the Pastor General

After the Pastor General you’ll find the evangelists. These people typically controlled organizations within the Church. e.g. media, geographical regions, church campuses, senior administrative positions, and so on. This “rank” as it is called, is found three times in the New Testament. A good example of this is Ephesians 4:11.

Ephesians 4

4:11

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

What did it mean where it is written, "He Himself gave..."?

We may find out if we look at 1 Corinthians: 12:27-31.

1 Corinthians

12:27

Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually.

12:28

And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.

12:29

Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles?

12:30

Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?

12:31

But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.

Certain gifts (talents) were given out by God to different people. However verse 29-30 clearly says all the gifts don’t apply to all the workers. Yes, there different gifts that dictate ones appointment by God. However this does not automatically mean ranks of power, rather positions of influence. Also the majority of what we know of church positions isn’t even listed. Let’s find out more.

Below the evangelists (in today’s churches) were pastors. These were generally people who headed local churches, but were not governmentally talented enough to direct major departments.

Below the pastors were preaching elders. Preaching elders had responsibility for individual churches. This is a title not specifically used in the Bible.

Next you find local elders. Supposedly “ordained by God," individuals who were able to give sermons but were still under the head of the local church. They typically come from the local area or congregation or were given the rank if they graduated from a College (not by God).

Many considered all of the above to be “ministers.”

The smallest of “ranks” are Deacons, again from the local congregation. They carried out the wishes of their higher ranking local officials. Often times with the assistance of local church members. They were allowed to give sermonettes on limited subjects, but were more go-getters than speakers.

There is a position under the Deacon known as “pillars.” Their duties included setting up chairs or handing out hymnals. They have no “authority” and were limited to a work roster. They are, in essence, lapdogs to the Deacons!

There was only one rank for the women, that of deaconess. Deaconesses were ordained (by man not God) and received implied power and prestige from their husband's position. Or to put in other words just assumed! Their role is to advise church women who had personal problems or questions and were handed down tasks by women higher up the ladder such as organizing church luncheons.

At the very bottom of the ladder or under it, was the flock.

By now we can see that these so-called "ranks" were based more on political position and ability rather than on religious ability, all though you would normally be perceived as religiously "converted" and knowledgeable before receiving any political position within the church it is more likely ones willingness to pander to the whim of higher church officials.

Is there Biblical Justification is there for these “ranks”? Let’s see how the bible defines these titles.

APOSTLES:

The title Apostle is just that - a title, not some special “rank” of high esteem. In fact anyone who is sent out to preach the gospel after receiving the right training can correctly call themselves an apostle. Apostle comes from the Greek word "Apostolos", which means "one who is sent"; a delegate.

Paul used the word to describe Jesus' relation with God the Father in Hebrews 3:1.

Hebrews

3:1

Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus,

This is a direct reference to Jesus' words in John 17:3.

John

17:3

And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

The word is used to describe Jesus' twelve disciples that Jesus selected and trained to establish the original Church in Jerusalem and later the lost sheep outside of Judea. Luke 6:13.

Luke

6:13

And when it was day, He called His disciples to Himself; and from them He chose twelve whom He also named apostles:

Notice it indicates that there were more than 12 disciples from which He chose. 12 apostles gifted enough to be sent out. Paul was then chosen to establish the church among the gentiles. Romans 11:13.

Romans

11:13

For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,

In Romans 16:7 we read that those that traveled with the 12 Apostles and also the many others that Christ sent out as well, referred to themselves as apostles.

Romans

16:7

Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

The Prophets:

There is no office for Prophet in any modern Church, at least by title. Is there no need for it? Seems odd that prophets are used often throughout the Bible by God yet now in the latter days we have none or is it that when someone comes along that God may care to use for such a purpose, they are quickly perceived as a threat and silenced by the jealous hierarchy of the church! If someone can correctly interpret prophesies made in the past in relation to end times can he/she be regarded as a Prophet? Are we so close to the close of the age that we need no more prophesies of the future? I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what unfolds. The following scriptures indicate there would indeed be Prophets in the latter days.

Acts

2:17

'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams.

2:18

And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.

Would we know, respect and recognize for example (the two witnesses) two men dressed in sack cloth announcing the coming of the LORD or would we laugh, seek to put them down, put them in there place, righting them off as crack pots through some sort of misguided jealous church government structure. Think about that!

Evangelists:

Evangelist means "one announcing the good news" or "a preacher of the gospel".

You would tend to believe that an evangelist is someone who proclaims the word of God to the unbelieving, rather than providing pastoral care to the baptized, though that is speculation.

“Preacher” is probably a better word to describe an evangelist. We get the word preacher from several Greek words. One of which is "kerusso" that means "to herald divine truth, proclaim, or publish". Paul referred to himself as a preacher, apostle and teacher. 1Timothy 2:7.

1Timothy

2:7

for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle--I am speaking the truth in Christ and not lying--a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.

It would seem that a person could hold several roles or positions at the same time depending on what gifts they were given by God. Not all preachers came from the New Testament times. For example Noah and Solomon were referred to as preacher. We’ll talk more about preachers and preaching later, however modern day evangelist would be more like that of a missionary. What we see in the modern Churches today is evangelists taking the role of administrators that occasionally preach when needed. How this is supposed to mirror the Bible description is baffling to say the least.

PASTORS:

The word “pastor” is used twice in the New Testament. Ephesians 4:11.

Ephesians

4:11

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

"Pastor" comes from the Greek word "poimen" and means "shepherd". It will be found in the Old Testament book of Jeremiah. It comes from the Hebrew word, "rawaw" and also means “shepherd” Paul makes it clear what the three primary functions of a Pastor are.

1. The conducting of worship services.

2. The care of the flock.

3. The spiritual government of the church.

Let's look at some examples of shepherds from the KJV and NKJV.

Jeremiah

3:15

And I will give you shepherds according to My heart, who will feed you with knowledge and understanding.

10:21

For the shepherds have become dull-hearted, And have not sought the Lord; Therefore they shall not prosper, And all their flocks shall be scattered.



12:10

Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.



23:1

"Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of My pasture!" says the Lord.

23:2

Therefore thus says the Lord God of Israel against the shepherds who feed My people: "You have scattered My flock, driven them away, and not attended to them. Behold, I will attend to you for the evil of your doings," says the Lord.

23:3

"But I will gather the remnant of My flock out of all countries where I have driven them, and bring them back to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.

23:4

I will set up shepherds over them who will feed them; and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, nor shall they be lacking," says the Lord.

Matthew

9:36

But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd.

Jesus felt sorry for the many scattered people spiritual and physically, that lacked the care and guidance of a "good" shepherd. Notice how He likens people to sheep in that they both need a shepherd and not just another sheep.

Matthew

25:32

And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

25:33

And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

A shepherd or pastor is supposed to tend, guide and care to his flocks every need not just feed them (information). Here are some scriptures that describe this:

Acts

20:28

Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

The question now becomes, "What is an overseer?" According to Strong’s Concordance, an overseer (episkopis in Greek- G1985) is a bishop. Let’s look at a description of a bishop or overseer.

Titus

1:7

For a bishop must be blameless, as a steward of God, not self-willed, not quick-tempered, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money,

1:8

but hospitable, a lover of what is good, sober-minded, just, holy, self-controlled,

1:9

holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict.

A bishop or overseer must be able to exhort and convict (convince) by sound doctrine, not threats, expressed or implied, those who would disagree. Let’s examine the words: Exhort, Convict.

Exhort, G3870, means to earnestly advise, not threaten.

Convict, G1651, means to refute, to prove false or wrong.

We see here in verse 9 it says an overseer must be able to earnestly advise someone or even to prove someone wrong by use of sound doctrine, not punish, if someone should disagree. From Acts 20:17 and 28, we know that these overseers were elders and that their purpose and duty was to feed the flock.

Acts

20:17

From Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called for the elders of the church.

20:28

Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

The gift of the Holy Spirit made them overseers of the Church of God. Note in verse 28 it says “to all the flock”. It is clearly stating that anyone that has truly received the Holy Spirit should consider themselves overseers and responsible for the Church of God. Therefore, all brethren are responsible for the condition of the Church and are not simply to take a back seat position whilst so called Church officials freely corrupt the Church.

Acts

20:17

From Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called for the elders of the church.

What is an elder? Strong's - G4245, defines an elder as one who is old or older, i.e. a senior. Let's look at another reference to elders, this time by Peter.

1 Peter

5:1

The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed:

5:2

Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly;

5:3

nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock;

[In deeds, not just words]

Matthew 23

23:1

Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples,

23:2

saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.

23:3

Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.

Sadly this hypocrisy still exists in most Churches around the world today and sadly will remain so till Christ returns.

The word "overseers" in 1 Peter 5:2 comes from the Greek word "episkope’o" - G1983, which also means "caretaker." The word "willingly" simply means "voluntarily".

So what do we have here? Paul showed that overseers are elders. Peter also points out that elders should be willing to serve, not for money (a motivation of far too many) or because they have been coerced into it, or that it may have some level of power over others, but because they want to help, in all matters, not just spiritual. Peter also cautions elders to oversee the flock; not lord it over people, but to act as examples. The word "compulsion", G317, means "by use of threat, entreaty, force, or persuasion." Elders are not to use these evil methods.

So much for the so-called "ranks" of authority commonly referred to in Ephesians 4:11 and 1Corinthians 12.

Another title commonly used to describe an office of authority in church officials. That title is

Minister:

What is the source and meaning of the word "minister?"

The Old Testament word for "minister" is sharath (shaw-rath') - Strong's #H8334. The word means to serve or attend or wait on other people. There are a few other Hebrew words which are interpreted "minister" but they also have the same meaning.

The principal New Testament word for "minister" is diakonos (dee-ok'-on-os) - Strong's #G1249. The word means "one who executes the commands of another"; an attendant or waiter or deacon or servant. Again, there are a several other Greek words which are interpreted "minister."

"Minister" can be either a noun or a verb. The Greek words vary accordingly but the English word "minister" is commonly used when translating the various Greek words.

Romans 12:6-8 shows that ministering, i.e. serving is a gift.

12:6

Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith;

12:7

or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching;

12:8

he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.

Let's look at some New Testament scriptures to understand the many applications of the English word "minister."

Matthew 20

20:25

But Jesus called them to Himself and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those who are great exercise authority over them.

20:26

Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant.

20:27

And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave--

20:28

just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."

Here Christ tells us in words that Church leaders must serve. In fact they are to be like slaves and not rule. Greatness can only be accomplished by continuous servitude. Now think about it. Imagine what would happen if a slave in Christ’s time was asked for assistance. Instead of giving assistance the slave say, “no I can’t help you.” What would happen to the slave?

Many Churches conduct a very ritualistic ceremony every Passover or Easter with most churches, with the washing of feet.

John 13.5-17

13:5

After that, He poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded.

13:6

Then He came to Simon Peter. And Peter said to Him, "Lord, are You washing my feet?"

13:7

Jesus answered and said to him, "What I am doing you do not understand now, but you will know after this."

13:8

Peter said to Him, "You shall never wash my feet!" Jesus answered him, "If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me."

13:9

Simon Peter said to Him, "Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head!"

13:10

Jesus said to him, "He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you."

13:11

For He knew who would betray Him; therefore He said, "You are not all clean."

13:12

So when He had washed their feet, taken His garments, and sat down again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you?

13:13

You call me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am.

13:14

If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet.

13:15

For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you.

13:16

Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him.

13:17

If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them.

Christ wasn’t telling us to wash each others feet. He was setting an example that if He could humble himself enough to that of a slave to wash their feet. (Tend to their needs) then we all should as well. He was telling the disciples if they weren’t willing to be as a slave to their fellow brethren how could they expect their flock to do what they might not be willing to do. It would seem the modern day Pharisees and Sadducees have simply replaced hand washing rituals spoken of in Matthew 15:2 and Mark 7:3, with foot washing ones! If you’re not going to teach and spread the gospel in its true form, I guess you have to fill in time somehow!

Yet modern day church leaders, whatever their so called rank, time and time again will refuse help to the flock for an assortment of non biblical reasons. Read these verses again. It couldn’t be more clear- anyone of any “rank” in the church must be like a slave to anyone and everyone- never refusing anything, provided the request does not break any laws of course and is within the abilities of the Church. It’s not their place to judge who is worthy of God’s help, and part of God’s help comes through the distribution of Tithes to the needy. (First and Third tithes)

Remember when the young and rich man asks Jesus what he needed to do to enter the Kingdom of God.

Matthew 19

19:21

Jesus said to him, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

19:22

But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

Notice Jesus didn’t say give ME all your money and we’ll deicide who we should help!

From time to time I have been asked “Why do we not see the miracles as in the time of Christ. i.e. true healing of the sick, raising the dead, casting out of demons, and talking of tongues (languages not gibberish) and so on” Well, all that we have just covered is why!

WHY WOULD GOD GRANT ANY OF US THE PRESTIOUS GIFT OF MIRICALS! Until modern Churches and all its members start LIVING as Christ instructed and STOP ruling for the sake of power and money.

The KJV translates diak’onos into the English word "Minister" however many modern translations use the correct translation, "servant".

25:44

Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?'

The word "minister" here is the verb deokoneo (de-ok-on-e'-o), G1247. It means to serve others like a Christian deacon. Yes Deacons must be servants. How can anyone go around like some kind of boss, yet be as a slave?

Just a minute, what about when church officials justify their authority with the following scriptural references Romans 13:1-6. They use them to contradict, but let’s take a closer look.

13:1

Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

13:2

Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

13:3

For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.

13:4

For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

13:5

Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience' sake.

13:6

For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers attending continually to this very thing.

These verses 1-6 are describing civil magistrates, not church officials!

The words "Minister" in verse 4 is from the Greek word "diak’onos", the same word as used in Mat. 20:26.

20:26

But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;

20:27

And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

He is, in essence, a servant working for God. Jesus is telling us that a magistrate is approved by God to do to us what he is placed in office to do, whether we like it or not.

Christ expressed this to Pilate in John 19:11.

19:11

Jesus answered, "You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above. Therefore the one who delivered Me to you has the greater sin."



In other words if there are bad men in power it is to bring about a good outcome in the end even though at the time those living though it will find it a difficult concept to grasp. For example you may not agree with your elected leaders (President or Prime Minister), they may well be stupid or unfair even criminal in behavior, but they are in their position by God’s will.

So, we can see now, verses 4 and 5 are describing a minister who is a civil magistrate, not a religious official. That is not what many hierarchical churches would have you believe, now you can well see how far removed our modern church leaders are from what Jesus intended for the Church.

The word "minister" in verse 6 is from the Greek word "leitourgos," G3011, meaning "a public servant." A perhaps more correct word to use in modern day English translations would be to replace the word "minister" in verse 6 with the word "magistrate," or “bureaucrat”.

Romans 15

15:25

But now I am going to Jerusalem to minister to the saints.

15:26

For it pleased those from Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints who are in Jerusalem.

15:27

It pleased them indeed, and they are their debtors. For if the Gentiles have been partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister to them in material things.

Notice verse 27, were it says, “their duty is also to minister to them in material things”. Not just talk of spiritual growth or even just pray for you. Clearly this sends a clear message that church officials of all titles are to aid in all areas possible to do with life’s problems.

The word "minister" in verse 25 comes from the Greek word "diakone’o" (G1247), meaning "to serve others". It is the same word we looked at in Matthew 25:44.

25:44

Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?'

Romans 15

15:15

Nevertheless, brethren, I have written more boldly to you on some points, as reminding you, because of the grace given to me by God,

15:16

that I might be a minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering of the Gentiles might be acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.

The word "ministering" in verse 16 comes from the Greek word "heirourge’o", G2418, which means "to be a temple worker, i.e. to minister in priestly service".

Paul is using this word to figuratively explain his own pastoral service of presenting gentile converts to God.

1 Corinthians 4 (NKJV)

4:1

Let a man so consider us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God.

1 Corinthians 4 (KJV)

4:1

Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.

The word "ministers" comes from the Greek word "hupere’tes", G5257, which means "subordinates or assistants" (of Christ); literally, the word means an under- rower (slaves of ancient rowing ships).

1 Corinthians 9

9:13

Do you not know that those who minister the holy things eat of the things of the temple, and those who serve at the altar partake of the offerings of the altar?

The word "minister" comes from the Greek word "ergaz'omai", G2038, which means "to toil or work" in sacred things or those who are tireless in priestly functions.

Have you noticed that every word translated “minister” describes a person that is a worker, servant, or assistant?

It's interesting that the true meaning of every word translated "minister" implies that the person of such title is a worker, servant, or assistant. What we are seeing is an attempt by the translators to justify the authority and high position of ministers existing in their society and churches. Even today, in secular governments, "ministers" are the titles of very high positions. That is just the opposite of the meanings we have been reading in the Greek.

How then can this system work when it seems to imply, no one of authority in the Church? Who then leads? Is the Church meant to simply drift along aimlessly with no leader to speak of?

In any group of two or more, sooner or later will gain a leader! Whether formally assigned or not, one will be accepted and fill the role. The leader then, sometimes almost unknowingly, begins to lead, to make decisions, to plan actions, to see that things are accomplished according to some plan, to speak for the group, to direct others. This is when a person is truly ordained by God. Every organization will end up having a leader whether it intends to have one or not. The status of that leader will depend upon the sincerity and ability of the leader, the attitude of the group regarding the importance of status, and the humility of the leader and the group.

This is more like the picture scripture implies. Could a church or assembly function without someone to determine when, where and for what reason the group will meet or do anything?

Let’s look at scriptures which assume and seem to indicate that there is authority within the Church?

1Timothy 5

5:17

Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.

The word "elders" is from the Greek word "presbut'eros", G4245, and means "one who is older". We've talked about this before.

The word "rule" is from the Greek word "prois'temi", G4291, and means "to preside over or stand before or superintend."

It is the same word as used in 1 Timothy 3:5 which speaks of ruling your children and your household, and in Romans 12:8 that encourages diligence along with the gift of ruling.

1Timothy 3

3:5

(for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?);

Romans 12

12:8

Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

Correct ruling and caring of your children requires generous amounts of love and patience and understanding, not spoiling them but neither having them go without when it is within your means. It may require the willingness to let them learn by experience, but without rejection or leaving them to perish or come to danger.

Does that reflect what you have experienced in the Church? Or have you experienced elders and their families as people of privilege while those of need are seemingly expendable? Have you experienced another Diotrephes?

3 John 1

1:9

I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to have the preeminence (he loves to be the boss) among them, does not receive us.

1:10

Therefore, if I come, I will call to mind his deeds which he does, prating against us with malicious words. And not content with that, he himself does not receive the brethren, and forbids those who wish to, putting them out of the church.

1Timothy 5:17 gave us a picture of an older man presiding over an assemblage, one whom makes sure the will of God is administered correctly with the love and caring of a parent not a dictator. But how many of us, during our church lives, have experienced a Diotrephes, imposing his autocratic will on others? Sadly it has become easy to find sites on the web, full of horror stories of such men and their churches.

Let's look at a different example:

Hebrews 13

13:17

Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you.

There are 3 key words to discuss.

Rule, Obey, Submissive

The word "rule", in this verse, comes from the Greek word "hege'omai", G2233, and means "to lead" with official authority or "to deem" a matter.

The New Testament translates hegeomai into many words, including judge, consider, count, regard, think, and view, but most of them can easily be read as "deem".

There is only one way to interpret this. That is to mean that "to lead" here means "give one's view of a matter". The word "rule" in this verse does not appear to be forcing but rather "leading in regards to influence." Or better put “lead by example.”

The word "obey", it is translated from the Greek word "peitho", G3982, and means "to assent to evidence or authority". Basically it says agree with the evidence or authority though evidence. Not to hard to understand however most translations translate it as "be persuaded by" or "trust" or "yield to". Yet another subtle misinterpretation for an evil intent!

The word "submissive" is translated from the Greek word "hupeiko", G5226, and means "to surrender, be yielding or weak".

Fairly straight forward, the same message is given in Titus 1:9.



1:9

holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict.

In order to be submissive, one must concur to or follow the one who gives his views or leads.

Is Paul describing those who protect us physically or spiritually? Hebrews 13:18 makes it clear that Paul is including himself with those whom he wants people to "trust".

13:18

Pray for us; for we are confident that we have a good conscience, in all things desiring to live honorably.

Does this not infer leaders are to lead by influencing others though being a living example, (desiring to live honorably.) while the flock is to accept that influence without being openly hostile toward the opinions of those leaders? Indeed why and how would one be hostile to a leader that is willing to prove God’s word through their own actions in that they do and what they say.

Remember the scripture that says

Isaiah 8

8:20

To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.



John 15

15:4

Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

15:5

I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

15:8

By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

There are two things we have learnt from these scriptures. There are serious translation problems concerning church offices and officials. It is clear that the true Church where ever it is, will have a leader or leaders; however their actions in how they govern is what will truly make the difference. Also there can be found translation errors which entail established church procedures.

Regrettably these errors or deception have permeated most, if not all, of our English Bibles. Let’s consider a possible origin of these translation errors.

We need to go back to when King James, as head of the Church of England. He set down a great and what should have been noble task, for his knowledgeable religious leaders. The task was to translate the scriptures into English. It would seem that both he and his religious officials were very hesitant to say or write anything which would jeopardize the status of the existing church organization. Church officials had no desire to lose their power and prestige while preserving the "Divine Right of Kings." The "Divine Right of Kings" philosophy was important to the Crown from the standpoint of sustaining an unblemished position as head of the church. Can you imagine the King of England announcing to the people that he was to be a servant, nay slave to the people, and that the taxes the royalty had been collecting for generations were to be used for the good of the people starting from the those most in need!!

Neither party wanted to state anything which would cater to other religious views and thereby diminish their own position and power.

Translators went to great lengths to flatter the Crown probably for fear of losing their own salaries! They actually replaced the name "Ya`akov", a Jewish name, with "James", the English King’s name. This may seem trite when compared with mistranslating titles and other words in order to adapt their meaning to Church of England practices, but the end result was still the same: a distortion of facts to satisfy their own end - a practice still employed by many church leaders today. Despite all this, and despite the fact that the 400 year old semantics often leaves one with an incorrect sense of meaning, the King James Version is still considered to be one of the least error-prone in terms of doctrine of all versions in print today.

One word we have not yet covered that is a function of nearly all churches is "Preachers."

A preacher is simply one who preaches not a rank or position within a church.

Webster's defines the verb "preach" as:

1. To speak in public on religious matters; to give a sermon.

2. To give moral or religious advice.

Nothing about a church office here is there?

There are groups that believe too much authority is given to an individual who preaches a sermon. They prefer to have discussion groups where everyone has the same opportunity to raise and answer questions. Some even sit in a big circle to demonstrate equality. There are more than 150 examples of preaching in the Bible. What is the role of preachers and preaching? These examples reflect about 17 slightly different Hebrew and Greek words that translate into the word “preach.” All of them (except a couple of mistranslations) can be defined as:

To proclaim,

To announce,

To publish,

Lecturing,

Making a proclamation,

To herald,

To announce good news,

To talk, to discuss,

To dispute,

To reason with,

To discuss a topic or subject,

To announce good news in advance,

To herald divine truth.

They all describe more or less the same role.

One could say that preaching is certainly a normal function of any church group. However the overall translation of the word neither suggests that discussion groups are wrong or does it say there should not be a preacher. Remember in Christ's time, a leader, elder or whatever, had people read scripture, then he commented or preached about it not unlike a discussion group. How else were Jesus and the Apostles, unrecognized as anyone of office, able to read in the synagogues?

Read Acts 15. It tells of a conference of give and take between the many attendees, where an agreement was finally come to, leading to a united church doctrine or policy. How does this compare with the bickering and stubbornness we see in and between various churches and leaders of churches today?

15:1

And certain men came down from Judea and taught the brethren, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved."

15:2

Therefore, when Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and dispute with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas and certain others of them should go up to Jerusalem, to the apostles and elders, about this question.

15:3

So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through Phoenicia and Samaria, describing the conversion of the Gentiles; and they caused great joy to all the brethren.

15:4

And when they had come to Jerusalem, they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders; and they reported all things that God had done with them.

15:5

But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses."

15:6

Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter.

15:7

And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.

15:8

So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,

15:9

and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

15:10

Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

15:11

But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they."

15:12

Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles.

15:13

And after they had become silent, James answered, saying, "Men and brethren, listen to me:

15:14

Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name.

15:15

And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:

15:16

'After this I will return And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down; I will rebuild its ruins, And I will set it up;

15:17

So that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord, Even all the Gentiles who are called by My name, Says the Lord who does all these things.'

15:18

"Known to God from eternity are all His works.

15:19

Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God,

15:20

but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.

15:21

For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath."

15:22

Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren.

15:23

They wrote this letter by them: The apostles, the elders, and the brethren, To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: Greetings.

15:24

Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, "You must be circumcised and keep the law"--to whom we gave no such commandment

15:25

it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,

15:26

men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

15:27

We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth.

15:28

For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:

15:29

that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.

15:30

So when they were sent off, they came to Antioch; and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the letter.

15:31

When they had read it, they rejoiced over its encouragement.

15:32

Now Judas and Silas, themselves being prophets also, exhorted and strengthened the brethren with many words.

15:33

And after they had stayed there for a time, they were sent back with greetings from the brethren to the apostles.

15:34

However, it seemed good to Silas to remain there.

15:35

Paul and Barnabas also remained in Antioch, teaching and preaching the word of the Lord, with many others also.

15:36

Then after some days Paul said to Barnabas, "Let us now go back and visit our brethren in every city where we have preached the word of the Lord, and see how they are doing."

15:37

Now Barnabas was determined to take with them John called Mark.

15:38

But Paul insisted that they should not take with them the one who had departed from them in Pamphylia, and had not gone with them to the work.

15:39

Then the contention became so sharp that they parted from one another. And so Barnabas took Mark and sailed to Cyprus;

15:40

but Paul chose Silas and departed, being commended by the brethren to the grace of God.

15:41

And he went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.

We have reviewed the titles used in the many Churches today. We have found that the titles and definitions used do not fit biblical definition. There are even cases of young men filling positions of elders. The method of selecting elders may even be in doubt, though one might question whether an elder would be appointed or elected if he were not already seen as fulfilling that role by the congregation.

We have concluded that the justification of church authority in modern Churches is misleading at best. Paul didn’t assume privilege and authority to accept free food etc, but worked for it instead making sure anything he received would be justified by setting a example. 2 Thessalonians 3:8-9.

2 Thessalonians

3:8

nor did we eat anyone's bread free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you,

3:9

not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us.

Note yet another clear statement telling us leaders must teach by setting an example.

Any other authority for overseers and other elders is not granted. Elders are to fill an influential role through example rather than hierarchical role. The elders' authority is likened to that of a head of household or a shepherd: leading and feeding with love. Churches are not thereby licensed to some authoritarian or dominant role nor are their families. Matthew 20:25-28 clearly shows us that Ministers are simply servants, not rulers, of the Church.

20:25

But Jesus called them to Himself and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those who are great exercise authority over them.

20:26

Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant.

20:27

And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave--

20:28

just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."

The role of each church leader, however, must be accepted by the congregation with respect and patience as long as the leader lives out the gospel in his daily life yet again being an example.

1 Thessalonians 5

5:12

And we urge you, brethren, to recognize those who labor among you, and are over you in the Lord and admonish you,

5:13

and to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. Be at peace among yourselves.

I hope that each of you will prove or disprove each of the points covered. Discussion of any of these points is encouraged. I’m sure; any of the corporate religious leaders would contest these points to protect their existing power and control over the flock. There seems to be a vast chasm between those who trust in and follow God’s word and those who trust in and follow the dogma of the established corporate churches of the world, though both call themselves Christian.

We have read several scriptures where the arrogance and dominance of the shepherd or Pastor, these wolves in sheep’s clothing, has resulted in the scattering of the flock, a seemingly frequent occurrence in today’s Churches whatever their variation in name and structure. You might want to refer to 2 Corinthians 11:14-15.

2 Corinthians

11:14

And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

11:15

Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

With all these errors in the structure and function of the organized church today, is it any wonder that so many of God’s people are avoiding allegiance to church organizations? It has been said,

We are actually very turned-off to ANY of the `corporate churches' and men clamoring for followings to support them. We feel like our consistent foundation of home-centered worship and study has served us well in providing a sure stability of dependence upon Christ while many brethren are floundering in their search for ‘somewhere to go’ and some person to ‘teach’ them.

I’ll leave the last word to Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 23

23:1

"Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of My pasture!" says the Lord.

23:2

Therefore thus says the Lord God of Israel against the shepherds who feed My people: "You have scattered My flock, driven them away, and not attended to them. Behold, I will attend to you for the evil of your doings," says the Lord.

[SOJOURNER]

Is this post your original work or plagiarized from some study manual you are reading?

[Accountable]

Aren't you even vaguely interested in the other conversation you started?



Maybe you're a self-styled journalist? Is this your idea of being published?

[Frederick]

serveandsave wrote: All of us that have attended services would at some time heard sermons on the subject of Church government. However is this teaching the true structure that Christ wanted put in place, or is this an area were self serving men have twisted scripture for their own gain? The feast of Tabernacles pictures the Kingdom of God, where His Government is set up for ever and will never be corrupted. This is the example that Christ and His apostles tried to teach and demonstrate, sadly this form of Government, despite all the sermons and congregations talk of love and fellowship, TV show broadcasts, booklets, pamphlets, door knocking and what have you, has never been put into action or even tried, as it was meant to be!

What is Church Government anyway? What should it be? When you read on, I think you’ll find out.

Webster's dictionary defines government as:

1) The exercise of authority;

2) A system of ruling and controlling;

3) All the people or agencies that administer or control affairs.

Sounds like the average Church Government! But what is Church Government and how should it be administered? Do we indeed need a Government when we’re all supposed to be following God’s laws?

Many Church groups were organized around a very structured hierarchical set of offices. God the Father supposedly was at the top. Just below Him is Jesus Christ. After Jesus is the human head to represent God’s government here on Earth or the Pastor General

After the Pastor General you’ll find the evangelists. These people typically controlled organizations within the Church. e.g. media, geographical regions, church campuses, senior administrative positions, and so on. This “rank” as it is called, is found three times in the New Testament. A good example of this is Ephesians 4:11.

Ephesians 4

4:11

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

What did it mean where it is written, "He Himself gave..."?

We may find out if we look at 1 Corinthians: 12:27-31.

1 Corinthians

12:27

Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually.

12:28

And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.

12:29

Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles?

12:30

Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?

12:31

But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.

Certain gifts (talents) were given out by God to different people. However verse 29-30 clearly says all the gifts don’t apply to all the workers. Yes, there different gifts that dictate ones appointment by God. However this does not automatically mean ranks of power, rather positions of influence. Also the majority of what we know of church positions isn’t even listed. Let’s find out more.

Below the evangelists (in today’s churches) were pastors. These were generally people who headed local churches, but were not governmentally talented enough to direct major departments.

Below the pastors were preaching elders. Preaching elders had responsibility for individual churches. This is a title not specifically used in the Bible.

Next you find local elders. Supposedly “ordained by God," individuals who were able to give sermons but were still under the head of the local church. They typically come from the local area or congregation or were given the rank if they graduated from a College (not by God).

Many considered all of the above to be “ministers.”

The smallest of “ranks” are Deacons, again from the local congregation. They carried out the wishes of their higher ranking local officials. Often times with the assistance of local church members. They were allowed to give sermonettes on limited subjects, but were more go-getters than speakers.

There is a position under the Deacon known as “pillars.” Their duties included setting up chairs or handing out hymnals. They have no “authority” and were limited to a work roster. They are, in essence, lapdogs to the Deacons!

There was only one rank for the women, that of deaconess. Deaconesses were ordained (by man not God) and received implied power and prestige from their husband's position. Or to put in other words just assumed! Their role is to advise church women who had personal problems or questions and were handed down tasks by women higher up the ladder such as organizing church luncheons.

At the very bottom of the ladder or under it, was the flock.

By now we can see that these so-called "ranks" were based more on political position and ability rather than on religious ability, all though you would normally be perceived as religiously "converted" and knowledgeable before receiving any political position within the church it is more likely ones willingness to pander to the whim of higher church officials.

Is there Biblical Justification is there for these “ranks”? Let’s see how the bible defines these titles.

APOSTLES:

The title Apostle is just that - a title, not some special “rank” of high esteem. In fact anyone who is sent out to preach the gospel after receiving the right training can correctly call themselves an apostle. Apostle comes from the Greek word "Apostolos", which means "one who is sent"; a delegate.

Paul used the word to describe Jesus' relation with God the Father in Hebrews 3:1.

Hebrews

3:1

Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus,

This is a direct reference to Jesus' words in John 17:3.

John

17:3

And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

The word is used to describe Jesus' twelve disciples that Jesus selected and trained to establish the original Church in Jerusalem and later the lost sheep outside of Judea. Luke 6:13.

Luke

6:13

And when it was day, He called His disciples to Himself; and from them He chose twelve whom He also named apostles:

Notice it indicates that there were more than 12 disciples from which He chose. 12 apostles gifted enough to be sent out. Paul was then chosen to establish the church among the gentiles. Romans 11:13.

Romans

11:13

For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,

In Romans 16:7 we read that those that traveled with the 12 Apostles and also the many others that Christ sent out as well, referred to themselves as apostles.

Romans

16:7

Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

The Prophets:

There is no office for Prophet in any modern Church, at least by title. Is there no need for it? Seems odd that prophets are used often throughout the Bible by God yet now in the latter days we have none or is it that when someone comes along that God may care to use for such a purpose, they are quickly perceived as a threat and silenced by the jealous hierarchy of the church! If someone can correctly interpret prophesies made in the past in relation to end times can he/she be regarded as a Prophet? Are we so close to the close of the age that we need no more prophesies of the future? I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what unfolds. The following scriptures indicate there would indeed be Prophets in the latter days.

Acts

2:17

'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams.

2:18

And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.

Would we know, respect and recognize for example (the two witnesses) two men dressed in sack cloth announcing the coming of the LORD or would we laugh, seek to put them down, put them in there place, righting them off as crack pots through some sort of misguided jealous church government structure. Think about that!

Evangelists:

Evangelist means "one announcing the good news" or "a preacher of the gospel".

You would tend to believe that an evangelist is someone who proclaims the word of God to the unbelieving, rather than providing pastoral care to the baptized, though that is speculation.

“Preacher” is probably a better word to describe an evangelist. We get the word preacher from several Greek words. One of which is "kerusso" that means "to herald divine truth, proclaim, or publish". Paul referred to himself as a preacher, apostle and teacher. 1Timothy 2:7.

1Timothy

2:7

for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle--I am speaking the truth in Christ and not lying--a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.

It would seem that a person could hold several roles or positions at the same time depending on what gifts they were given by God. Not all preachers came from the New Testament times. For example Noah and Solomon were referred to as preacher. We’ll talk more about preachers and preaching later, however modern day evangelist would be more like that of a missionary. What we see in the modern Churches today is evangelists taking the role of administrators that occasionally preach when needed. How this is supposed to mirror the Bible description is baffling to say the least.

PASTORS:

The word “pastor” is used twice in the New Testament. Ephesians 4:11.

Ephesians

4:11

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

"Pastor" comes from the Greek word "poimen" and means "shepherd". It will be found in the Old Testament book of Jeremiah. It comes from the Hebrew word, "rawaw" and also means “shepherd” Paul makes it clear what the three primary functions of a Pastor are.

1. The conducting of worship services.

2. The care of the flock.

3. The spiritual government of the church.

Let's look at some examples of shepherds from the KJV and NKJV.

Jeremiah

3:15

And I will give you shepherds according to My heart, who will feed you with knowledge and understanding.

10:21

For the shepherds have become dull-hearted, And have not sought the Lord; Therefore they shall not prosper, And all their flocks shall be scattered.



12:10

Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.



23:1

"Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of My pasture!" says the Lord.

23:2

Therefore thus says the Lord God of Israel against the shepherds who feed My people: "You have scattered My flock, driven them away, and not attended to them. Behold, I will attend to you for the evil of your doings," says the Lord.

23:3

"But I will gather the remnant of My flock out of all countries where I have driven them, and bring them back to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.

23:4

I will set up shepherds over them who will feed them; and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, nor shall they be lacking," says the Lord.

Matthew

9:36

But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd.

Jesus felt sorry for the many scattered people spiritual and physically, that lacked the care and guidance of a "good" shepherd. Notice how He likens people to sheep in that they both need a shepherd and not just another sheep.

Matthew

25:32

And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

25:33

And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

A shepherd or pastor is supposed to tend, guide and care to his flocks every need not just feed them (information). Here are some scriptures that describe this:

Acts

20:28

Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

The question now becomes, "What is an overseer?" According to Strong’s Concordance, an overseer (episkopis in Greek- G1985) is a bishop. Let’s look at a description of a bishop or overseer.

Titus

1:7

For a bishop must be blameless, as a steward of God, not self-willed, not quick-tempered, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money,

1:8

but hospitable, a lover of what is good, sober-minded, just, holy, self-controlled,

1:9

holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict.

A bishop or overseer must be able to exhort and convict (convince) by sound doctrine, not threats, expressed or implied, those who would disagree. Let’s examine the words: Exhort, Convict.

Exhort, G3870, means to earnestly advise, not threaten.

Convict, G1651, means to refute, to prove false or wrong.

We see here in verse 9 it says an overseer must be able to earnestly advise someone or even to prove someone wrong by use of sound doctrine, not punish, if someone should disagree. From Acts 20:17 and 28, we know that these overseers were elders and that their purpose and duty was to feed the flock.

Acts

20:17

From Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called for the elders of the church.

20:28

Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

The gift of the Holy Spirit made them overseers of the Church of God. Note in verse 28 it says “to all the flock”. It is clearly stating that anyone that has truly received the Holy Spirit should consider themselves overseers and responsible for the Church of God. Therefore, all brethren are responsible for the condition of the Church and are not simply to take a back seat position whilst so called Church officials freely corrupt the Church.

Acts

20:17

From Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called for the elders of the church.

What is an elder? Strong's - G4245, defines an elder as one who is old or older, i.e. a senior. Let's look at another reference to elders, this time by Peter.

1 Peter

5:1

The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed:

5:2

Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly;

5:3

nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock;

[In deeds, not just words]

Matthew 23

23:1

Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples,

23:2

saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.

23:3

Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.

Sadly this hypocrisy still exists in most Churches around the world today and sadly will remain so till Christ returns.

The word "overseers" in 1 Peter 5:2 comes from the Greek word "episkope’o" - G1983, which also means "caretaker." The word "willingly" simply means "voluntarily".

So what do we have here? Paul showed that overseers are elders. Peter also points out that elders should be willing to serve, not for money (a motivation of far too many) or because they have been coerced into it, or that it may have some level of power over others, but because they want to help, in all matters, not just spiritual. Peter also cautions elders to oversee the flock; not lord it over people, but to act as examples. The word "compulsion", G317, means "by use of threat, entreaty, force, or persuasion." Elders are not to use these evil methods.

So much for the so-called "ranks" of authority commonly referred to in Ephesians 4:11 and 1Corinthians 12.

Another title commonly used to describe an office of authority in church officials. That title is

Minister:

What is the source and meaning of the word "minister?"

The Old Testament word for "minister" is sharath (shaw-rath') - Strong's #H8334. The word means to serve or attend or wait on other people. There are a few other Hebrew words which are interpreted "minister" but they also have the same meaning.

The principal New Testament word for "minister" is diakonos (dee-ok'-on-os) - Strong's #G1249. The word means "one who executes the commands of another"; an attendant or waiter or deacon or servant. Again, there are a several other Greek words which are interpreted "minister."

"Minister" can be either a noun or a verb. The Greek words vary accordingly but the English word "minister" is commonly used when translating the various Greek words.

Romans 12:6-8 shows that ministering, i.e. serving is a gift.

12:6

Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith;

12:7

or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching;

12:8

he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.

Let's look at some New Testament scriptures to understand the many applications of the English word "minister."

Matthew 20

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But Jesus called them to Himself and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those who are great exercise authority over them.

20:26

Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant.

20:27

And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave--

20:28

just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."

Here Christ tells us in words that Church leaders must serve. In fact they are to be like slaves and not rule. Greatness can only be accomplished by continuous servitude. Now think about it. Imagine what would happen if a slave in Christ’s time was asked for assistance. Instead of giving assistance the slave say, “no I can’t help you.” What would happen to the slave?

Many Churches conduct a very ritualistic ceremony every Passover or Easter with most churches, with the washing of feet.

John 13.5-17

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After that, He poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded.

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Then He came to Simon Peter. And Peter said to Him, "Lord, are You washing my feet?"

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Jesus answered and said to him, "What I am doing you do not understand now, but you will know after this."

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Peter said to Him, "You shall never wash my feet!" Jesus answered him, "If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me."

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Simon Peter said to Him, "Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head!"

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Jesus said to him, "He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you."

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For He knew who would betray Him; therefore He said, "You are not all clean."

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So when He had washed their feet, taken His garments, and sat down again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you?

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You call me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am.

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If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet.

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For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you.

13:16

Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him.

13:17

If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them.

Christ wasn’t telling us to wash each others feet. He was setting an example that if He could humble himself enough to that of a slave to wash their feet. (Tend to their needs) then we all should as well. He was telling the disciples if they weren’t willing to be as a slave to their fellow brethren how could they expect their flock to do what they might not be willing to do. It would seem the modern day Pharisees and Sadducees have simply replaced hand washing rituals spoken of in Matthew 15:2 and Mark 7:3, with foot washing ones! If you’re not going to teach and spread the gospel in its true form, I guess you have to fill in time somehow!

Yet modern day church leaders, whatever their so called rank, time and time again will refuse help to the flock for an assortment of non biblical reasons. Read these verses again. It couldn’t be more clear- anyone of any “rank” in the church must be like a slave to anyone and everyone- never refusing anything, provided the request does not break any laws of course and is within the abilities of the Church. It’s not their place to judge who is worthy of God’s help, and part of God’s help comes through the distribution of Tithes to the needy. (First and Third tithes)

Remember when the young and rich man asks Jesus what he needed to do to enter the Kingdom of God.

Matthew 19

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Jesus said to him, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

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But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

Notice Jesus didn’t say give ME all your money and we’ll deicide who we should help!

From time to time I have been asked “Why do we not see the miracles as in the time of Christ. i.e. true healing of the sick, raising the dead, casting out of demons, and talking of tongues (languages not gibberish) and so on” Well, all that we have just covered is why!

WHY WOULD GOD GRANT ANY OF US THE PRESTIOUS GIFT OF MIRICALS! Until modern Churches and all its members start LIVING as Christ instructed and STOP ruling for the sake of power and money.

The KJV translates diak’onos into the English word "Minister" however many modern translations use the correct translation, "servant".

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Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?'

The word "minister" here is the verb deokoneo (de-ok-on-e'-o), G1247. It means to serve others like a Christian deacon. Yes Deacons must be servants. How can anyone go around like some kind of boss, yet be as a slave?

Just a minute, what about when church officials justify their authority with the following scriptural references Romans 13:1-6. They use them to contradict, but let’s take a closer look.

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Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

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Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

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For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.

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For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

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Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience' sake.

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For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers attending continually to this very thing.

These verses 1-6 are describing civil magistrates, not church officials!

The words "Minister" in verse 4 is from the Greek word "diak’onos", the same word as used in Mat. 20:26.

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But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;

20:27

And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

He is, in essence, a servant working for God. Jesus is telling us that a magistrate is approved by God to do to us what he is placed in office to do, whether we like it or not.

Christ expressed this to Pilate in John 19:11.

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Jesus answered, "You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above. Therefore the one who delivered Me to you has the greater sin."



In other words if there are bad men in power it is to bring about a good outcome in the end even though at the time those living though it will find it a difficult concept to grasp. For example you may not agree with your elected leaders (President or Prime Minister), they may well be stupid or unfair even criminal in behavior, but they are in their position by God’s will.

So, we can see now, verses 4 and 5 are describing a minister who is a civil magistrate, not a religious official. That is not what many hierarchical churches would have you believe, now you can well see how far removed our modern church leaders are from what Jesus intended for the Church.

The word "minister" in verse 6 is from the Greek word "leitourgos," G3011, meaning "a public servant." A perhaps more correct word to use in modern day English translations would be to replace the word "minister" in verse 6 with the word "magistrate," or “bureaucrat”.

Romans 15

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But now I am going to Jerusalem to minister to the saints.

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For it pleased those from Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints who are in Jerusalem.

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It pleased them indeed, and they are their debtors. For if the Gentiles have been partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister to them in material things.

Notice verse 27, were it says, “their duty is also to minister to them in material things”. Not just talk of spiritual growth or even just pray for you. Clearly this sends a clear message that church officials of all titles are to aid in all areas possible to do with life’s problems.

The word "minister" in verse 25 comes from the Greek word "diakone’o" (G1247), meaning "to serve others". It is the same word we looked at in Matthew 25:44.

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Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?'

Romans 15

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Nevertheless, brethren, I have written more boldly to you on some points, as reminding you, because of the grace given to me by God,

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that I might be a minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering of the Gentiles might be acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.

The word "ministering" in verse 16 comes from the Greek word "heirourge’o", G2418, which means "to be a temple worker, i.e. to minister in priestly service".

Paul is using this word to figuratively explain his own pastoral service of presenting gentile converts to God.

1 Corinthians 4 (NKJV)

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Let a man so consider us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God.

1 Corinthians 4 (KJV)

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Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.

The word "ministers" comes from the Greek word "hupere’tes", G5257, which means "subordinates or assistants" (of Christ); literally, the word means an under- rower (slaves of ancient rowing ships).

1 Corinthians 9

9:13

Do you not know that those who minister the holy things eat of the things of the temple, and those who serve at the altar partake of the offerings of the altar?

The word "minister" comes from the Greek word "ergaz'omai", G2038, which means "to toil or work" in sacred things or those who are tireless in priestly functions.

Have you noticed that every word translated “minister” describes a person that is a worker, servant, or assistant?

It's interesting that the true meaning of every word translated "minister" implies that the person of such title is a worker, servant, or assistant. What we are seeing is an attempt by the translators to justify the authority and high position of ministers existing in their society and churches. Even today, in secular governments, "ministers" are the titles of very high positions. That is just the opposite of the meanings we have been reading in the Greek.

How then can this system work when it seems to imply, no one of authority in the Church? Who then leads? Is the Church meant to simply drift along aimlessly with no leader to speak of?

In any group of two or more, sooner or later will gain a leader! Whether formally assigned or not, one will be accepted and fill the role. The leader then, sometimes almost unknowingly, begins to lead, to make decisions, to plan actions, to see that things are accomplished according to some plan, to speak for the group, to direct others. This is when a person is truly ordained by God. Every organization will end up having a leader whether it intends to have one or not. The status of that leader will depend upon the sincerity and ability of the leader, the attitude of the group regarding the importance of status, and the humility of the leader and the group.

This is more like the picture scripture implies. Could a church or assembly function without someone to determine when, where and for what reason the group will meet or do anything?

Let’s look at scriptures which assume and seem to indicate that there is authority within the Church?

1Timothy 5

5:17

Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.

The word "elders" is from the Greek word "presbut'eros", G4245, and means "one who is older". We've talked about this before.

The word "rule" is from the Greek word "prois'temi", G4291, and means "to preside over or stand before or superintend."

It is the same word as used in 1 Timothy 3:5 which speaks of ruling your children and your household, and in Romans 12:8 that encourages diligence along with the gift of ruling.

1Timothy 3

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(for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?);

Romans 12

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Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

Correct ruling and caring of your children requires generous amounts of love and patience and understanding, not spoiling them but neither having them go without when it is within your means. It may require the willingness to let them learn by experience, but without rejection or leaving them to perish or come to danger.

Does that reflect what you have experienced in the Church? Or have you experienced elders and their families as people of privilege while those of need are seemingly expendable? Have you experienced another Diotrephes?

3 John 1

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I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to have the preeminence (he loves to be the boss) among them, does not receive us.

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Therefore, if I come, I will call to mind his deeds which he does, prating against us with malicious words. And not content with that, he himself does not receive the brethren, and forbids those who wish to, putting them out of the church.

1Timothy 5:17 gave us a picture of an older man presiding over an assemblage, one whom makes sure the will of God is administered correctly with the love and caring of a parent not a dictator. But how many of us, during our church lives, have experienced a Diotrephes, imposing his autocratic will on others? Sadly it has become easy to find sites on the web, full of horror stories of such men and their churches.

Let's look at a different example:

Hebrews 13

13:17

Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you.

There are 3 key words to discuss.

Rule, Obey, Submissive

The word "rule", in this verse, comes from the Greek word "hege'omai", G2233, and means "to lead" with official authority or "to deem" a matter.

The New Testament translates hegeomai into many words, including judge, consider, count, regard, think, and view, but most of them can easily be read as "deem".

There is only one way to interpret this. That is to mean that "to lead" here means "give one's view of a matter". The word "rule" in this verse does not appear to be forcing but rather "leading in regards to influence." Or better put “lead by example.”

The word "obey", it is translated from the Greek word "peitho", G3982, and means "to assent to evidence or authority". Basically it says agree with the evidence or authority though evidence. Not to hard to understand however most translations translate it as "be persuaded by" or "trust" or "yield to". Yet another subtle misinterpretation for an evil intent!

The word "submissive" is translated from the Greek word "hupeiko", G5226, and means "to surrender, be yielding or weak".

Fairly straight forward, the same message is given in Titus 1:9.



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holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict.

In order to be submissive, one must concur to or follow the one who gives his views or leads.

Is Paul describing those who protect us physically or spiritually? Hebrews 13:18 makes it clear that Paul is including himself with those whom he wants people to "trust".

13:18

Pray for us; for we are confident that we have a good conscience, in all things desiring to live honorably.

Does this not infer leaders are to lead by influencing others though being a living example, (desiring to live honorably.) while the flock is to accept that influence without being openly hostile toward the opinions of those leaders? Indeed why and how would one be hostile to a leader that is willing to prove God’s word through their own actions in that they do and what they say.

Remember the scripture that says

Isaiah 8

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To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.



John 15

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Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

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I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

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By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

There are two things we have learnt from these scriptures. There are serious translation problems concerning church offices and officials. It is clear that the true Church where ever it is, will have a leader or leaders; however their actions in how they govern is what will truly make the difference. Also there can be found translation errors which entail established church procedures.

Regrettably these errors or deception have permeated most, if not all, of our English Bibles. Let’s consider a possible origin of these translation errors.

We need to go back to when King James, as head of the Church of England. He set down a great and what should have been noble task, for his knowledgeable religious leaders. The task was to translate the scriptures into English. It would seem that both he and his religious officials were very hesitant to say or write anything which would jeopardize the status of the existing church organization. Church officials had no desire to lose their power and prestige while preserving the "Divine Right of Kings." The "Divine Right of Kings" philosophy was important to the Crown from the standpoint of sustaining an unblemished position as head of the church. Can you imagine the King of England announcing to the people that he was to be a servant, nay slave to the people, and that the taxes the royalty had been collecting for generations were to be used for the good of the people starting from the those most in need!!

Neither party wanted to state anything which would cater to other religious views and thereby diminish their own position and power.

Translators went to great lengths to flatter the Crown probably for fear of losing their own salaries! They actually replaced the name "Ya`akov", a Jewish name, with "James", the English King’s name. This may seem trite when compared with mistranslating titles and other words in order to adapt their meaning to Church of England practices, but the end result was still the same: a distortion of facts to satisfy their own end - a practice still employed by many church leaders today. Despite all this, and despite the fact that the 400 year old semantics often leaves one with an incorrect sense of meaning, the King James Version is still considered to be one of the least error-prone in terms of doctrine of all versions in print today.

One word we have not yet covered that is a function of nearly all churches is "Preachers."

A preacher is simply one who preaches not a rank or position within a church.

Webster's defines the verb "preach" as:

1. To speak in public on religious matters; to give a sermon.

2. To give moral or religious advice.

Nothing about a church office here is there?

There are groups that believe too much authority is given to an individual who preaches a sermon. They prefer to have discussion groups where everyone has the same opportunity to raise and answer questions. Some even sit in a big circle to demonstrate equality. There are more than 150 examples of preaching in the Bible. What is the role of preachers and preaching? These examples reflect about 17 slightly different Hebrew and Greek words that translate into the word “preach.” All of them (except a couple of mistranslations) can be defined as:

To proclaim,

To announce,

To publish,

Lecturing,

Making a proclamation,

To herald,

To announce good news,

To talk, to discuss,

To dispute,

To reason with,

To discuss a topic or subject,

To announce good news in advance,

To herald divine truth.

They all describe more or less the same role.

One could say that preaching is certainly a normal function of any church group. However the overall translation of the word neither suggests that discussion groups are wrong or does it say there should not be a preacher. Remember in Christ's time, a leader, elder or whatever, had people read scripture, then he commented or preached about it not unlike a discussion group. How else were Jesus and the Apostles, unrecognized as anyone of office, able to read in the synagogues?

Read Acts 15. It tells of a conference of give and take between the many attendees, where an agreement was finally come to, leading to a united church doctrine or policy. How does this compare with the bickering and stubbornness we see in and between various churches and leaders of churches today?

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And certain men came down from Judea and taught the brethren, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved."

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Therefore, when Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and dispute with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas and certain others of them should go up to Jerusalem, to the apostles and elders, about this question.

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So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through Phoenicia and Samaria, describing the conversion of the Gentiles; and they caused great joy to all the brethren.

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And when they had come to Jerusalem, they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders; and they reported all things that God had done with them.

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But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses."

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Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter.

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And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.

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So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,

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and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

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Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

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But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they."

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Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles.

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And after they had become silent, James answered, saying, "Men and brethren, listen to me:

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Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name.

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And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:

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'After this I will return And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down; I will rebuild its ruins, And I will set it up;

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So that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord, Even all the Gentiles who are called by My name, Says the Lord who does all these things.'

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"Known to God from eternity are all His works.

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Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God,

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but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.

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For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath."

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Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren.

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They wrote this letter by them: The apostles, the elders, and the brethren, To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: Greetings.

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Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, "You must be circumcised and keep the law"--to whom we gave no such commandment

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it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,

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men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth.

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For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:

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that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.

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So when they were sent off, they came to Antioch; and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the letter.

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When they had read it, they rejoiced over its encouragement.

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Now Judas and Silas, themselves being prophets also, exhorted and strengthened the brethren with many words.

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And after they had stayed there for a time, they were sent back with greetings from the brethren to the apostles.

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However, it seemed good to Silas to remain there.

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Paul and Barnabas also remained in Antioch, teaching and preaching the word of the Lord, with many others also.

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Then after some days Paul said to Barnabas, "Let us now go back and visit our brethren in every city where we have preached the word of the Lord, and see how they are doing."

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Now Barnabas was determined to take with them John called Mark.

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But Paul insisted that they should not take with them the one who had departed from them in Pamphylia, and had not gone with them to the work.

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Then the contention became so sharp that they parted from one another. And so Barnabas took Mark and sailed to Cyprus;

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but Paul chose Silas and departed, being commended by the brethren to the grace of God.

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And he went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.

We have reviewed the titles used in the many Churches today. We have found that the titles and definitions used do not fit biblical definition. There are even cases of young men filling positions of elders. The method of selecting elders may even be in doubt, though one might question whether an elder would be appointed or elected if he were not already seen as fulfilling that role by the congregation.

We have concluded that the justification of church authority in modern Churches is misleading at best. Paul didn’t assume privilege and authority to accept free food etc, but worked for it instead making sure anything he received would be justified by setting a example. 2 Thessalonians 3:8-9.

2 Thessalonians

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nor did we eat anyone's bread free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you,

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not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us.

Note yet another clear statement telling us leaders must teach by setting an example.

Any other authority for overseers and other elders is not granted. Elders are to fill an influential role through example rather than hierarchical role. The elders' authority is likened to that of a head of household or a shepherd: leading and feeding with love. Churches are not thereby licensed to some authoritarian or dominant role nor are their families. Matthew 20:25-28 clearly shows us that Ministers are simply servants, not rulers, of the Church.

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But Jesus called them to Himself and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those who are great exercise authority over them.

20:26

Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant.

20:27

And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave--

20:28

just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."

The role of each church leader, however, must be accepted by the congregation with respect and patience as long as the leader lives out the gospel in his daily life yet again being an example.

1 Thessalonians 5

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And we urge you, brethren, to recognize those who labor among you, and are over you in the Lord and admonish you,

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and to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. Be at peace among yourselves.

I hope that each of you will prove or disprove each of the points covered. Discussion of any of these points is encouraged. I’m sure; any of the corporate religious leaders would contest these points to protect their existing power and control over the flock. There seems to be a vast chasm between those who trust in and follow God’s word and those who trust in and follow the dogma of the established corporate churches of the world, though both call themselves Christian.

We have read several scriptures where the arrogance and dominance of the shepherd or Pastor, these wolves in sheep’s clothing, has resulted in the scattering of the flock, a seemingly frequent occurrence in today’s Churches whatever their variation in name and structure. You might want to refer to 2 Corinthians 11:14-15.

2 Corinthians

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And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

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Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

With all these errors in the structure and function of the organized church today, is it any wonder that so many of God’s people are avoiding allegiance to church organizations? It has been said,

We are actually very turned-off to ANY of the `corporate churches' and men clamoring for followings to support them. We feel like our consistent foundation of home-centered worship and study has served us well in providing a sure stability of dependence upon Christ while many brethren are floundering in their search for ‘somewhere to go’ and some person to ‘teach’ them.

I’ll leave the last word to Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 23

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"Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of My pasture!" says the Lord.

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Therefore thus says the Lord God of Israel against the shepherds who feed My people: "You have scattered My flock, driven them away, and not attended to them. Behold, I will attend to you for the evil of your doings," says the Lord.


For a junior member, you've sure got a heck of a lot to say on the matter! Keep it short, man. A couple of hundred words at the most. I'm not being funny, but nine tenths of you readers would have given up by a third way through. You#re not trying to write a book. I know what I'm talking about - for many years I belonged to a creative writibg club

[Ted]

Frederick:-6

Thanks.

serve and save:-6

Unfortunately you are taking the Bible literally which has a problem in itself. Even the originator of the reformation, Martin Luther, did not take the Bible in that manner. "The Cross in our Context" Dr. D. J. Hall. You also fail to realize that the church was and is a developing tradition whose authority is based on three things; the Bible, Tradition and reason. The counsels have played a large role in the developing tradition including giving us the Bible which, unfortunately, too many people take literally.

Shalom

Ted:-6

[Christofer]

You will find serveandsave is very long winded - but he means well. I speak from experience.

[chonsigirl]

Hello Chris, welcome to FG.

S&S would do better to go one point at a time, people are more likely to respond to his posts then.

[Christofer]

I agree - maybe he will learn that from ya all - but he didn't learn it from me - lol. Thanks for the greeting. I look forward to many great conversations here.

[Ted]

Since I've lost about 65% of my sight I don't even begin to read beyond the first paragraph in a post that long.

Shalom

Ted:-6