Wills online??

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:11 am

Does anyone know of any online site for a real basic standard Will Kit/Form???

I can't afford to go get this completely done by a lawyer only just a 5 second trip in for a signature..... I have to re-write my will all over again cause the ex won't get the original from his lawyer for me. I am not going to fight this through lawyers so they can bleed my of my $$. But I have heard you can get the basic form online.... Anyone know of such sites? It won't be anything complex I need to state all I have is to be split 50 50 between my girls and 0 goes to their father and that past will is void.

Help I have til May 4th

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:15 am

Minks, I know there's tons of info about this out there, and a lot of it is BS. You have to do your research, and even still you will probably have to have the document notarized (or whatever it is they call it in Canada). I'm bored with nothing better to do right now, so let me go see what I might be able to find....

Edited to add: HOLY CRIPES! I just googled "wills online Canada" and about a bazillion sites came up. Take a look.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:19 am

Check it online, Minks, then just have it notarized-don't pay expensive lawyer fees!

*like, I still need to do mine too*

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:20 am

BabyRider wrote: Minks, I know there's tons of info about this out there, and a lot of it is BS. You have to do your research, and even still you will probably have to have the document notarized (or whatever it is they call it in Canada). I'm bored with nothing better to do right now, so let me go see what I might be able to find....

Edited to add: HOLY CRIPES! I just googled "wills online Canada" and about a bazillion sites came up. Take a look.

Ok cool shall do, yeah I know it has to be notarized fortunately I can get that done for free thank god. I will do the search and see what works for me. Crikey ya know getting a divorce takes bloody forever the ties to the past never seem to go away. 3 years later I am now scrambling over a will and pensions some days I wish the man would have just fallen off the earth grrrrrrrr

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:24 am

chonsigirl wrote: Check it online, Minks, then just have it notarized-don't pay expensive lawyer fees!

*like, I still need to do mine too*

Thanks CG so what could be so complex with these darn things that some ask you for $$ I can't believe it.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:30 am

www.Suzeorman.com

She talks about her forms all the time. Use promo code or password or whatever SUZE. It doesn't have to be all caps.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:32 am

I just checked. The password doesn't work anymore. I don't know what the cost is.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:34 am

Accountable wrote: I just checked. The password doesn't work anymore. I don't know what the cost is.

awww nuts too bad. I checked out a few "free" ones and they want your investment business and in order to get the "free" forms you have to submit things like your place of employment, investment info, phone numbers and addresses as well as marital status, dependants and freakin title as in Ms, Mrs or Mr.... crikey I DON"T think so.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:42 am

minks wrote: awww nuts too bad. I checked out a few "free" ones and they want your investment business and in order to get the "free" forms you have to submit things like your place of employment, investment info, phone numbers and addresses as well as marital status, dependants and freakin title as in Ms, Mrs or Mr.... crikey I DON"T think so.
Watch her show Saturdays on CNBC if you get it. She talks about it almost every week and gives a password so you can get the forms free. Hey, maybe the password's only good on Saturdays. :yh_think

In any case, it's a really informative & interesting show.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:43 am

Accountable wrote: Watch her show Saturdays on CNBC if you get it. She talks about it almost every week and gives a password so you can get the forms free. Hey, maybe the password's only good on Saturdays. :yh_think

In any case, it's a really informative & interesting show.

cool thanks I will give that a whirl... how frustrating just to say give my assets (as little as they are) to my girls half for her half for her. Grrrrrr

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:46 am

The price is $13.50 US. Sounds downright cheap to me.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:00 am

Accountable wrote: The price is $13.50 US. Sounds downright cheap to me.

But I am in Canada doncha know.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:19 am

Minks, I'm sure that the wording at http://indigo.ie/~kwood/wills.htm is equally legal in Canada. Just be sure you get the witness and signature requirements correct - everyone in the room at the same time, and nobody leaves until all the signatures are done.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:36 am

minks wrote: But I am in Canada doncha know.

So what about if it is filled out online then printed is that info somehow stored on the www now??? This kinda bothers me.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:42 am

minks wrote: So what about if it is filled out online then printed is that info somehow stored on the www now??? This kinda bothers me.I don't know any site which does that..

The one I pointed you at, copy/paste the text of "A simple will" into your word processor, amend the text as appropriate, print it and follow the site instructions for signing and getting it witnessed. That's your will. It's a declaration of your wishes, it only gets complicated if you have complex desires.

It's also void from the moment you marry until you make another.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:45 am

spot wrote: I don't know any site which does that..

The one I pointed you at, copy/paste the text of "A simple will" into your word processor, amend the text as appropriate, print it and follow the site instructions for signing and getting it witnessed. That's your will. It's a declaration of your wishes, it only gets complicated if you have complex desires.

It's also void from the moment you marry until you make another.

oooo Spot you are my hero I am going to give that a look see, yeah I read about the witness thang. I will hog tie em down to do the witness siggys hehehehe

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:56 am

minks wrote: oooo Spot you are my heroYou could always ditch the children and marry me instead?

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:01 pm

spot wrote: You could always ditch the children and marry me instead?

Garsh how sweet of you hehehehehe what do you mean ditch my children ... Oh wait...!!!! one is already moved out, the other could go live with her dad, hmmmm shall I warn them I may not return from Jolly Ole England hehehehehehe

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:17 pm

Don't know anything about canadian law-or english law come to that, but in the UK doing your own will can cost a lot more problems than doing it through a lawyer and getting it recorded properly and if the previous wuill isn't superseded properly then you might caise more problems.

Also in the UK your children have rights to the their fathers estate just as they do to yours that can't be taken away from them, given the origins I would have thought canadian law would have similar provision-goes back to the days when women couldn't own property and was to stop children being left destitute if the father remarried or just wanted to leave everything to the eldest son and nothing to the rest. Surprised the divorce lawyer didn't deal with that for you.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:23 pm

gmc wrote: Don't know anything about canadian law-or english law come to that, but in the UK doing your own will can cost a lot more problems than doing it through a lawyer and getting it recorded properly and if the previous wuill isn't superseded properly then you might caise more problems.

Also in the UK your children have rights to the their fathers estate just as they do to yours that can't be taken away from them, given the origins I would have thought canadian law would have similar provision-goes back to the days when women couldn't own property and was to stop children being left destitute if the father remarried or just wanted to leave everything to the eldest son and nothing to the rest. Surprised the divorce lawyer didn't deal with that for you.

Fortunately for me I have a little bit of lawyer advise from my fathers lawyer... I simply have to state past will is void and is a non issue.

As for my children my will simply states they split my assets 50 50 plain and simple and of my assets (none of which are joined with their father) their father has nothing to do with them. As for what their father does, if he does nothing his assets go to the estate and then his assets will likely be split between my daughters as well. Legally if he does nothing to change his will the girls get it all. nothing will go to his step kids. Canadian Law does look after the children. Don't forget I have one daughter long moved out and a 15 year old, they are not babies. Between myself and their father there is not a whole lot of $$ value to our assets. That is why my will is so simple. We lost it all in the divorce.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:25 pm

Where there's a will, there's a way......................

You go Minks!

Get it over with, since I keep procrastinating on mine.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:26 pm

gmc wrote: Also in the UK your children have rights to the their fathers estate just as they do to yours that can't be taken away from themStrangely, that's the exact reverse of UK law. You can disinherit your children once they're of age, but not your spouse if he or she was dependent on you. The issue is dependency. You'd have a hard job demonstrating that if you're one of the children and not still a minor.

Making as simple a will as the one I found is - so long as you don't tamper - safe. Lawyers knock home-made wills because they want their income. The Probate office has no such aversion.

The only time that the decisions of the Executor are checked by professionals is if anyone queries the way the estate was distributed, at which point a court assembles and decides if the will was followed. That's not common.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:27 pm

chonsigirl wrote: Where there's a will, there's a way......................

You go Minks!

Get it over with, since I keep procrastinating on mine.

ahahaha CG you silly gal

Yeah well I have to make sure the ex does not get anything in case I do not return from England.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:29 pm

Here we can do a home made will and we can get it notarized by a lawyer. Heck we can even buy will kits at the staionary store but my whole point is my will is like 2 paragraphs long and I don't need any frills.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:46 pm

Minks, I don't get something here. You said he (being your moron ex) won't get the copy from HIS lawyer. Can't you just go over his head and go to his lawyer yourself? I can't see how he can keep it from you.

Maybe I'm missing something, though.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:18 pm

BabyRider wrote: Minks, I don't get something here. You said he (being your moron ex) won't get the copy from HIS lawyer. Can't you just go over his head and go to his lawyer yourself? I can't see how he can keep it from you.

Maybe I'm missing something, though.

this past lawyer lives in another city and did this will as a favor to us many years ago, to get this will back means a laywer against a lawyer and no matter what the transaction... it will cost $$ the ex mornon will not fork out money to have this done and I quite simply don't have even $20.00 to give to another dam lawyer ever again in my life. The past lawyer I dont' think is even practicing as a lawyer anymore so you see it will have to be hunted down, and again who hunts for it... a lawyer likely and again $$$.

And if ex moron decides to go after this will, it will cost him $$ for lawyer fees guess what, he will come after me for half. It's very cut throat that way between he and I and he has the ability to sting me good as his mother will fork out huge $$$$$ to his big lawyer who was the root of our huge loss in the first place. See where I go with this?

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:22 pm

What a total friggin' nightmare. Pain in the ass ex's.

Men. Ya can't shoot 'em, and they just won't fit in the microwave.

Sorry you have to deal with all this crap minksie, but it looks as though spot had some good info for you. Best of luck, and thanks for reminding me I have to update my damn will. How morbid.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:33 pm

BabyRider wrote: What a total friggin' nightmare. Pain in the ass ex's.

Men. Ya can't shoot 'em, and they just won't fit in the microwave.

Sorry you have to deal with all this crap minksie, but it looks as though spot had some good info for you. Best of luck, and thanks for reminding me I have to update my damn will. How morbid.

Yes did you see he suggested I marry him,,,,great info eh ahahahahaha

Well BR it is never too late to do your will, morbid indeed but ya never know when you may die. I know that sounds like hades but it is a reality.

As for the ex. well once Jr Minks is on her own I will no longer have a single tie to him and boy you can bet I will party up a storm. Maybe even move far away ahahahaha

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:36 pm

minks wrote: Yes did you see he suggested I marry him,,,,great info eh ahahahahaha

Well BR it is never too late to do your will, morbid indeed but ya never know when you may die. I know that sounds like hades but it is a reality.

As for the ex. well once Jr Minks is on her own I will no longer have a single tie to him and boy you can bet I will party up a storm. Maybe even move far away ahahahaha
Good for you, babe. Get as far from the a$$ as you can. Then dust your hands of him and move on, happily.

I haven't updated my will since me and Bullet tied the knot, so I really do need to get on that. Thanks again for the reminder!

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:44 pm

BabyRider wrote: Good for you, babe. Get as far from the a$$ as you can. Then dust your hands of him and move on, happily.

I haven't updated my will since me and Bullet tied the knot, so I really do need to get on that. Thanks again for the reminder!

good girl, tis important to keep a will updated when you make life changes.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:03 pm

spot wrote: Strangely, that's the exact reverse of UK law. You can disinherit your children once they're of age, but not your spouse if he or she was dependent on you. The issue is dependency. You'd have a hard job demonstrating that if you're one of the children and not still a minor.

Making as simple a will as the one I found is - so long as you don't tamper - safe. Lawyers knock home-made wills because they want their income. The Probate office has no such aversion.

The only time that the decisions of the Executor are checked by professionals is if anyone queries the way the estate was distributed, at which point a court assembles and decides if the will was followed. That's not common.

tsk tsk, UK law is English law and scots law. In truth i can't remember the legal rights under english law. Originally the idea was to stop a widow and children being left destitute if the father tried to leave everything to one child to keep a landed estate intact.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications ... 5128/51285

Legal Rights

A surviving spouse or civil partner and children are entitled to certain "legal right" out of the deceased person's moveable estate. In Scots law, heritable property means land and buildings, while moveable property includes such things as money, shares, cars, furniture and jewellery.

The surviving spouse or civil partner is entitled to one-third of the deceased's moveable estate if the deceased left children or descendants of children, or to one-half of it if the deceased left no such children or descendants.

The children are collectively entitled to one-third of the deceased's moveable estate if the deceased left a spouse or civil partner, or to one-half of it if the deceased left no spouse or civil partner. Each child has an equal claim. Where a child would have had a claim had he (she) not died before his (her) parent, his (her) descendants may claim his (her) share by the principle known as representation.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:07 pm

Oiy it can get complicated.