Just a question

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:59 pm

My past few threads have been thrown into the netherland ....................deleted. So it is my thought is is not OK to disagree anymore. I was wrong in calling people out specifically............they were wrong too. So I want to know who rules this forum.............the old timers or all the other people who actually put their money into FG support long before the old timers did? You should have supported us. BTW - do we get a rebate on our money?

minks · Post by **minks** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:43 pm

Hey NV I don't think anyone but admin rules the forum. welllll they make the rules and we all do our best to follow them how is that.

As for money back I think you would have to ask Tombstone or Anastrophe. sorry no help there huh

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:04 am

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BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:56 am

I can sum this up in two words:

Sour. Grapes.

abbey wrote: ..........

Oh, and ditto that.....

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:28 am

So I want to know who rules this forum
I will be the one person to actually admit that I have often wondered this myself. Seems some can express any opinion, rudely as possible; others cannot. Some can harrass, others cannot defend. Just my opinion.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:45 am

Peg wrote: I will be the one person to actually admit that I have often wondered this myself. Seems some can express any opinion, rudely as possible; others cannot. Some can harrass, others cannot defend. Just my opinion.

I have to agree with you there Peg.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:04 am

Peg wrote: I will be the one person to actually admit that I have often wondered this myself. Seems some can express any opinion, rudely as possible; others cannot. Some can harrass, others cannot defend. Just my opinion.Ditto that.

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:14 am

[QUOTE=JAB Admin make their decisions based on the rules they post for everyone to follow.
Are you sure about that?

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:21 am

Accountable wrote: Ditto that.
ME TOO

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:35 am

Peg wrote: I will be the one person to actually admit that I have often wondered this myself. Seems some can express any opinion, rudely as possible; others cannot. Some can harrass, others cannot defend. Just my opinion.

'Tis true....

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:22 am

Wow, all of your avatars are beautiful flowers! I forgot what this thread was about gazing at the posies.....................

Post by **Betty Boop** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:09 am

flopstock wrote: ahh.. the good old days.. when we talked of nothing but war and masterbation..when we addressed the issue and not the person...when i could sign on in hopes of taking nomad out at the knees... in a friendly manner...:rolleyes:

i'll be off to the arcade again i suppose...:p

hi NV girl!:-6

We miss you Floppy get out the damn arcade!!

pina · Post by **pina** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:14 am

flopstock wrote: ahh.. the good old days.. when we talked of nothing but war and masterbation..when we addressed the issue and not the person...when i could sign on in hopes of taking nomad out at the knees... in a friendly manner...:rolleyes:

i'll be off to the arcade again i suppose...:p

hi NV girl!:-6

My sentiments exactly, I'll join you in the arcade Floops.

Hi NV, I've missed you. :-6

venus · Post by **venus** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:07 am

pina wrote: My sentiments exactly, I'll join you in the arcade Floops.

Hi NV, I've missed you. :-6

Im staying away from the arcade. lve seeen the scores....

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:13 am

venus wrote: Im staying away from the arcade. lve seeen the scores....

Come into the arcade dear girl, we need fresh blood. :sneaky:

pina · Post by **pina** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:35 am

venus wrote: Im staying away from the arcade. lve seeen the scores....

Yes get your ass in the arcade Venus, Miss vampire Abs is getting hungry she needs fresh blood before sun up or she will disintigrate. Just remember to take that cross off from around your neck before coming.:wah:

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:52 pm

Peg wrote: I will be the one person to actually admit that I have often wondered this myself. Seems some can express any opinion, rudely as possible; others cannot. Some can harrass, others cannot defend. Just my opinion.
Well, it seems to ME, that admin runs the forum they own as they see fit. Judgement calls that some don't like, and rules that some are incapable of following.

I know some of you, in your peace-keeping ways have tried to divert the thread to a lighter note, but I feel like this is something that needs to be said. We've seen Tombstone and anastrophe called to the mat for their decisions countless times. To those people I say, if this isn't the kind of forum for you, where decisions are made without consulting the general population, then go make your own forum, or join another. Neither of the owners are stupid people, and they make the decisions as they see fit which is their right as owners. The public whining about alleged hurts is boring. If you have a problem with someone, take it up with admin. If you have a problem with the way things are run, take it up with admin. They actually listen and consider input. I know, I've written to them several times about many things. Some they've accepted others they haven't. All you can do is make the effort. Instead of complaining, DO something about it. If the answer is no, well then, move on, live with it. We're supposed to be adults here, and this griping and subtle "I'm pissed and want to throw a tantrum" is ridiculous.

Amie · Post by **Amie** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:07 pm

I have no idea what this is about, but let me tell you running a forum is not always fun and games. Sometimes it's akin to babysitting hundreds of behaviourally challenged children all at once. :wah:

At my forum, just about every decision to change the place goes to a vote of the members, the place is really run by the members not the Admins or Moderators but we still get a little bit of drama every now and then.

You will never win them all just like an Admin will never please all of the people all of the time.

Wherever you have humans, even humans you can't see and only know through their typing, you will have emotion, and with that comes drama sometimes. You just gotta decide whether the good outweighs the bad, and if it doesn't move on.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:09 pm

BabyRider wrote: .

I know some of you, in your peace-keeping ways have tried to divert the thread to a lighter note, but I feel like this is something that needs to be said.......

You need people with 'peace keeping ways' to keep 'the balance' IMO.

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:12 pm

BabyRider wrote: Well, it seems to ME, that admin runs the forum they own as they see fit. Judgement calls that some don't like, and rules that some are incapable of following.

I know some of you, in your peace-keeping ways have tried to divert the thread to a lighter note, but I feel like this is something that needs to be said. We've seen Tombstone and anastrophe called to the mat for their decisions countless times. To those people I say, if this isn't the kind of forum for you, where decisions are made without consulting the general population, then go make your own forum, or join another. Neither of the owners are stupid people, and they make the decisions as they see fit which is their right as owners. The public whining about alleged hurts is boring. If you have a problem with someone, take it up with admin. If you have a problem with the way things are run, take it up with admin. They actually listen and consider input. I know, I've written to them several times about many things. Some they've accepted others they haven't. All you can do is make the effort. Instead of complaining, DO something about it. If the answer is no, well then, move on, live with it. We're supposed to be adults here, and this griping and subtle "I'm pissed and want to throw a tantrum" is ridiculous.

pretty much like real life isn't it.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:13 pm

Bez wrote: You need people with 'peace keeping ways' to keep 'the balance' IMO.
I absolutely, 100% agree with you, Bez. I didn't say that it was a bad thing at all. But sometimes you also need people to say, "Look, this is just dumb, deal with it."

Both are important, and being the one who doesn't pull punches, I felt a need to say what I said.

I fully appreciate the ones here who have the ability to keep the peace. Don't think it's a bad thing at all.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:13 pm

minks wrote: pretty much like real life isn't it.
Yep. And some people can't deal with that, either.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:16 pm

BabyRider wrote: Well, it seems to ME, that admin runs the forum they own as they see fit. Judgement calls that some don't like, and rules that some are incapable of following.

I know some of you, in your peace-keeping ways have tried to divert the thread to a lighter note, but I feel like this is something that needs to be said. We've seen Tombstone and anastrophe called to the mat for their decisions countless times. To those people I say, if this isn't the kind of forum for you, where decisions are made without consulting the general population, then go make your own forum, or join another. Neither of the owners are stupid people, and they make the decisions as they see fit which is their right as owners. The public whining about alleged hurts is boring. If you have a problem with someone, take it up with admin. If you have a problem with the way things are run, take it up with admin. They actually listen and consider input. I know, I've written to them several times about many things. Some they've accepted others they haven't. All you can do is make the effort. Instead of complaining, DO something about it. If the answer is no, well then, move on, live with it. We're supposed to be adults here, and this griping and subtle "I'm pissed and want to throw a tantrum" is ridiculous.
Spoken like royalty, BR. It's nice to be on the positive end of it all. But it is frustrating when somebody gets banned for nothing more than pissing you off.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:21 pm

Accountable wrote: Spoken like royalty, BR. It's nice to be on the positive end of it all. But it is frustrating when somebody gets banned for nothing more than pissing you off.
I'm not quite sure how to take that, Acc. Would you care to expand a bit?

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:29 pm

Accountable wrote: Spoken like royalty, BR. It's nice to be on the positive end of it all. But it is frustrating when somebody gets banned for nothing more than pissing you off.

Well bannment is in the hands of our admin and I guess if we have any troubles with that it's best to contact admin.

FG is no different than any other social group, there is never going to be complete harmony and similar mind sets. We have to all accept the differences of thinking and opinions and if Admin makes a decision someone sees as bad, then they are who anyone should go to and plead their case to. I "think" admin is pretty liberal with how the manage FG, and really on a whole over all the Forum is run well. Sure there is a little "self governing" going on, and if it gets to be over the top, our admin isn't afraid to step in.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:41 pm

BabyRider wrote: I'm not quite sure how to take that, Acc. Would you care to expand a bit?
Well, I'd rather not. Anastrophe has deleted any references I might make, as I'm sure he would this thread, should it get too heated.

I'll just wait and point it out if I see again, okay?

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:48 pm

Clancy wrote: ....I respect what you say, but I suspect there will be others like myself who are more polite online than, IRL.

online it's easy to be anything, you can be respectful, disrespectful, deceitful, hurtful, joyful etc and no one has to know the real you. I think a thicker skin, the ability to let things roll ofg your back, a sense of humor and just a general whatever attitude is needed online because things can be easily misread, or misinterpreted. Geeze if I cowered from all the nasty PM's I get I would be crying my way to the looney bin.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:50 pm

Accountable wrote: Well, I'd rather not. Anastrophe has deleted any references I might make, as I'm sure he would this thread, should it get too heated.

I'll just wait and point it out if I see again, okay?
Well, how 'bout a PM, then, because I'm not sure if I should take your comment as snide, or another way. The term "spoken like royalty" has me a bit confused.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:51 pm

Oh, it was snide. Elitist would have been a better word, I guess.

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:52 pm

BabyRider wrote: Well, how 'bout a PM, then, because I'm not sure if I should take your comment as snide, or another way. The term "spoken like royalty" has me a bit confused.

Hail queen BR.... sorry hope I am not annoying the **** outta you today hehehehe

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:53 pm

Accountable wrote: Oh, it was snide. Elitist would have been a better word, I guess.
Ah. I kinda figured. You and I just haven't been on the same page for a while now, have we?

And you're right, elitist is a better word.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:54 pm

minks wrote: Hail queen BR.... sorry hope I am not annoying the **** outta you today hehehehe
Consider me a duck. It all rolls off my back like water.... :yh_wink

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:57 pm

JAB wrote: Do you want me to beat them up for you?! :sneaky:

could you please

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:58 pm

BabyRider wrote: Consider me a duck. It all rolls off my back like water.... :yh_wink

quack

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:01 pm

Far Rider wrote: Good Lord..... Bout time I laid out my 2 cents worth here and this seems to be the thread to do it....

In my experience here so far the ones who have been banned were provoked.

Had they not been provoked, they'd still be here.

kmhowe72. Is a prime example... yes she broke the forum rules and got banned for it... but in my opinion she was picked on till she lashed out in the only way she could have. Since then Ive seen it happen to others.

I've changed how I post because of it. And whenever I see someone getting picked on that doesnt deserve it.. I try to PM them and make them aware of how things work.Nicely put. Mind if I join the patrol?

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:03 pm

Accountable wrote: Nicely put. Mind if I join the patrol?
I've just bitten the end of my tongue off.

theia · Post by **theia** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:04 pm

I've been here less than nine months and so I would ask the longstanding FG people...has the bickering and banning etc. worsened since the early days or is it just a cyclical thing? If it has increased, why do you think it has? If it hasn't, tee hee, it'll soon be over

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:04 pm

BabyRider wrote: I've just bitten the end of my tongue off.
What on earth for?? You're never in danger of being banned.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:09 pm

Accountable wrote: What on earth for?? You're never in danger of being banned.
Oh how wrong you are, Accountable. I have received my share of warnings and chides from admin. myself. Don't think for one second that I am untouchable.

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:10 pm

theia wrote: I've been here less than nine months and so I would ask the longstanding FG people...has the bickering and banning etc. worsened since the early days or is it just a cyclical thing? If it has increased, why do you think it has? If it hasn't, tee hee, it'll soon be over

Oh IMHO it has increased but so has our numbers of members. You know we really have not had that many bannings when you consider how large we are, and how we have had some controversial folks come and go. It isn't a cycle I don't think, I think at first when a group starts up everyone is all polite and trying to establish a kind of "order" then once we get comfortable we step out and test the waters and that is when controversy is going to show up, after that it is all about how it is handled, you can either be a **** stirrer and get others ticked off at you and let it go, or you can be a **** stirrer once in a while and know when to stop and let it go, you can be a shrinking violet and let everything hurt you, or you can be a duck and let it roll off your back. With a place full of all different personalities we have to expect some muck flinging. Again I think as for the banning, Admin has to have their reasons and I just bet, they have a lot more "behind the scenes" information than a lot of us have.