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randall

Good evening to one and all - I can only speak for the time of day it is with me in Scotland.

I have searched quite a bit on the WEB but being a bit of a self taught novice I have not yet succeeded in this paricular quest.

One very iritating fact I discovered when my wife bought a computer but never bother to learn to use it - a total of about half a dozen E-mails to our daughter, then in Saudi was her limit.

Forcefully retired I had the bright idea that I might make a business out of the internet and then found that some half million other had the same idea. All the persuavive offers ended up in my money going down a drain whilst my erstwhile sponser probably banked a few hundred thousand.

To get back to my most recent search - it involves a cheap tiny digital camera which my wife either bought from "BETTERWARE" or else given to us by a friend who received it from "BETTERWARE".

It came with no set-up disc.

All that is written on the camera (4.3 cm X 5.7 cm) is Miniature Digital Camera - well that is obvious at the first glance.

Under the window telling your how many shots have been taken is the word "MODE". Inside the battery housing all is has is ( - & +). My computer, for some obscure reason said it was an "ARGUS" camera but "ARGUS" says that all of their products carry an identification serial number. and that it is therefore definitely not one of theirs.

I wrot to "BETTERWARE" and received the most illuminating reply ."I have been informed that is you do not have the disc you will not be able to use the camera.

Doesn't business give us the run around?

I do not know how to use the funny faces on the right but if I could I would have used the one banging its head against a brick wall.

So I am pleading that if anyone has received or bought a similar camera can they please sell me the disc or a copy of the disc

Quote.:- "Women and elephants never forget an injury" Hector Hugh Munro who wrote under the pen name "Saki"

God bless and keep you all.

randall
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Hello Randall...i have not properly welcomed you yet. so welcome! :) ...to utilize the smiley thingies, just click on one where you choose. it will appear in your post. go ahead, play with it a bit!
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i dont know anything about p.c's, betterware or wife's but its always nice to see another scot, welcome :D
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It came with no set-up disc.

Sorry to say Randall you will have to go to a PC store to buy the software to do this - it is pretty simple to install and run - just be sure you have the proper set-ups on your CPU to support the software or you may end up spending more money.

Correct me if I am wrong FG people but I believe Forum Garden prohibits the pirating of any software - which means we cannot sell you any software. You might try to buy it on-line. Do a web search for digital cameras.

And welcome!!!!
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'evening all again.

I omitted to say that once I had started on this somputer thing I was and am really shocked that when I started asking around acquaintances technical details about helping me to come to grips with the new IT technology.

Without exception, and most of them had had PC's for a few years, I found that they literally knew nothing beyond swiching a PC on, inserting a game card or CD and then spend hours just playing games.

They had not even got around to sending e-mails whilst the driving force behind me was to conquer the whole caboodle. E-mail I have found are a great and very quick way of keeping in touch with people I worked with in the 1950's.

Thanks to E-mails I met and spent about eight houts a workmate whom I had not seen for forty one years and received a letter from him tday from Australia so he is not letting age slow him down at 78 although sadly, he is now registered as visually impaired.

I have to make an apology to "BETTERWARE" - I am surprised that anyone in Britain has not heard of them. or, of their equally famous competitor - "CLEANEASY".

They only work through agents coming to your door - I was invited to become and agent myself but my wife said that too many people left you in the lurch by not paying your what they were owe you.

My last e-mail berating them had hardly been gone a half hour when I received a letter from the Customer Services Manager - EVA GABRIEL-STAHLWOOD - apologising for the deficient package and telling me that she had sent a new disc on it way already.

So thank's a million once again Eva and you are a grand example to your profession.

I did not feel that I was asking anyone to break the "LAW" by asking for countefiet gifts. After all I live across the road from the biggest prison in Scotland - the thought of prison concentrates the mind wonderfully!

Many programs work with different attachments, etc. and I felt that I had exhausted all my avenues of search for the required object without any success so why not ask a "friend" if they can help out.

Or are you a Thatcherite who said there is no such thing as society and one should only look after oneself - look where Britain has ended up using her "Kitchen Economics" and where next door neighbours not only don't know each other but done even look or speak to each other. Total strangers butcher each other to death.

What is your judicial decision on all those young people who have downloaded millions of tunes and songs to their MP3's or I-PODS - whatever they are

I know one young mother who has just been fined "2,500 pound sterling" and yet Emma C (or whatever her name is - one of the spice girls) has just issued music which can only be downloaded free from the internet.

We have unleashed a monster and like the Chinese say we are riding on a tiger's back and don'e know how to get off.

God bless you all.

randall
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Hi Randall



We brits do know Betterware and Cleaneasy over here, I also looked into joining Betterware a while ago. Surely if you order goods for people you wouldn't hand them over until you'd recieved the CASH? Just a thought!



Have you thought about doing a computer course at your local Adult Education Centre? Think you may be able to do them online too with 'Link into Learning'
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Dear Betty Boops,

I remember her too but haven't seen her around for quite some time.

Thanks for your encouragement but to be honest we have only one car which was given to my wife and she doesn't want me near it - forget about the high performance cars she had when I was earning enough to give to her.

She is so deeply invloved in Church work that the car is very raely available and certainly not enough for me to sign up with any training course within driving distance.

I keep saying that I pay for the most used free taxi service in the area but rarely get to use it myself!

I'll have a go at on line learning - I did try "Step Ahead" (is it still in existence? ) - and cost me a two mile walk. After a fall earlier this year which damaged my right knee I am not up to it.

As our doctor put it, "A few years ago I told you that you had a golfer's elbow even thouh you don't play golf - now you have a footballers' knee even though you do not play football."

( at 75???)"

You will see that I have a god relationship with the medical profession mainly because I have never really been out of their hands since the day I was born and wasn't expected to live long.

Oddly enough, my wife is the same, she is a twin and her brother died shortly after birth and in those days - the 1930's in rural Scotland - they simply laid her on the bed and waited for her to die too. After a day or so they noticed that she was still alive and thought, "Maybe we should do something."

Much against the grandmothers' wishes wshes ( "A bairn shid aye dee at hame!" ) she was transport to Aberdeens Woolmanhill Chidrens' Hospital where she spent many months learning to live - and she's still living!

A happy note to end on at least.

God bless.



randall

PS Is there a spelling checking system on this setup or am I too blind to see it??:p :-6
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Dear Everyone,

randall here to obliterate all the nasty things I have said about "BETTERWARE".

They not only took notice of my compl;aint but sent me a completely new camera, CD and connecting line to the PC

One can hardly ask for more than that.

I have been off line ugrading my very old PC witha DVD RW and added another hard drive and am now looking to install more meomery and even a a new CPU - if I can afford it - ???

Living in relatively remote areas it not easy fro those living in metroplitan cities to uderstand that nothing is ever at "our doorsteps" even through the medium of Internet.

The othe porblem for old timers is that when you want to upgrade a computer you are asked many technical questions to which you simply do not know the answere.

But ther is progress.

God bless and keep yopu all.

randall:wah:



:wah: :)
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Dear All.

randall here on a lovely warm evening - for a change - just to make sure that everyone knows - that is those who read the saga of the "BETTWARE" digital mini camera with you a CD to programe the PC to accept

. "BETTERWARE" came up trumps by sending me a completely new camera with disk, cord and everything - even instructions and it works after a few false starts - the biggest problem was navigating myself around the wholePC system to get the phiotos onto e-mails so that I could send them.

I have succeeded.

Thanks again to all who responded - no connecting it to the PC did not identify the camera. The PC gave me one name for the camera and the CD that came with the new one gave me a new name which I had never heard of either as, is usual, the tiny thing is made in bulk in China my old home.

God Bless All.

randall

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Evening all, randall here,

Further to my other computer questions can you help me with two others.

How do you print only ONE reply - I tried to print out the one about the "Driving License Fiasco" and end up with nine pages.

The other is, has anyone experienced their computer continually telling them to put a disc in a drive when there is already a disc in the drive in question.

This usually happens when I am trying to install a new programme. The same fault occurs with my DVD R-W Drive but oddly enough there is now problem when I put in a musical CD????? ODDSFISH

Or should it be "Elementary my dear Holmes."

God bless.

randall

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Randall...if I want to print something that has been posted, I 'highlight' / 'select' (holding the left hand mouse button down) what I want and then go to 'file'>'print' and check the 'selection' field. You should only get the selected text printed then....good job you weren't printing the 'Word association' game :yh_bigsmi
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Thanks again Bez, randall here again,

It is nice to know that someone is always going to give you a nicely worded explanation or reply.

I agree about "Word Association" ("Not my scene man! No way!") But I did have the experience of the printer trying to print out thirteen sheets when I only wanted one letter or post - I simply pulled all the paper out of the tray and that stopped it.

Simple but effective.

God bless.

randall.

:)
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randall around again,

Does anyone suffer from my problem. No matter how often I changed - wash - clean my mouse mats or the mouse balls and rollers They keep skidding across the mat with the arrow going any which way bu where ever I do not want it.

Is there anything to do to increase the friction between the ball and the mat.

I bought a copy of "Computer Active" the other day just because it has a rather nice mouse mat on the cover that gives you a whole list of short cuts you can use with almost any computer programme - but my mouse keeps skidding.

God bless.

randall.

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randall around again,

Does anyone suffer from my problem. No matter how often I changed - wash - clean my mouse mats or the mouse balls and rollers They keep skidding across the mat with the arrow going any which way bu where ever I do not want it.


It's not the mat it's the mouse.

Assuming you have windows XP. From start on the tool bar go in to control panel look for the mouse icon and click on that, you should be able-depending on the type od mouse you have-to adjust the way the mouse moves.

Try also www.pcadviser.co.uk they have help forums and such where you can post your questions and get help and are quite usefulk to browse through looking for simoplar problems and the answers given..
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randall wrote: :-6

randall around again,

Does anyone suffer from my problem. No matter how often I changed - wash - clean my mouse mats or the mouse balls and rollers They keep skidding across the mat with the arrow going any which way bu where ever I do not want it.

Is there anything to do to increase the friction between the ball and the mat.

I bought a copy of "Computer Active" the other day just because it has a rather nice mouse mat on the cover that gives you a whole list of short cuts you can use with almost any computer programme - but my mouse keeps skidding.

God bless.

randall.

:)Why not try an infra red mouse Randall, they dont have a ball.
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One for Randall

http://www.rampantscotland.com/parliamo ... recall.htm

Windows Recall

It has come to our attention that a few copies of the Scotland version of Windows 98 may have accidentally been shipped outside Scotland.

If you have one of the Scotland editions you may need some help understanding the commands. The Scotland edition may be recognized by looking at the opening screen. It reads WINDAES 98, Ye Ken, with a background picture of William Wallace superimposed on a St. Andrews Cross. It is shipped with a Mel Gibson screen saver.

Also note the Recycle Bin is called 'The Bucket.'

My Computer is called 'Thon Computer Thingie.'

Dialup Networking is called 'Phone the Bhoys.'

Control Panel is known as 'the Dashboard.'

Hard Drive is referred to as 'the tractor.'

Floppies are referred to as 'thae wee plastic disc things.'

Other features:

- Instead of an error message you get a windae covered with a picture of a neep.

- OK = 'ats fine'

- cancel = na na ma loon

- reset = Och ye'd be as weel startin again

- yes = Och aye

- no = nae chunce mon

- find = if ye'd bothered to pit it past in a safe place, ye widnae need to look for it noo

- go to = go'n ower 'ere

- back = back the wye

- help = geese a haun'

- stop = pack it in

- start = com on 'en

- settings = sittins

- programs = stuff whit daes stuff

- documents = stuff I hive done afore

Also note that Windaes 98 does not recognise capital letters or punctuation marks.

Some programs that are exclusive to Windaes 98:

- Pincil an paper...........A word processor

- Colourin book.......a Graphics program

- Addin machine......calculator

- Andrex......notepad

- Jukebox............CD player

- Photies.............A graphics viewer

- Tax records.........usually an empty file

We regret any inconvenience it may have caused if you received a copy of the Scotland edition. You may return it to Microsoft for a replacement version.
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Nice One General Motors Corporation, randall back - AGAIN!

Is that really all your own work?

Your deserve a gold star and a kiss from the teacher - take the apple back.

Ichi ban tchoto (Very, very good - Japanese)

Ho,HO.HO (Very,Very. Good Cantonese.

"Nay bad afa." Doric.

I and my wife have really enjoyed it but find it a mixture of Rabbie Burns Scots, Lowland Scots and Doric so "Far dae ye belang tae?"

Or as mi Mither's fafourite greeting wis "Fa achs ye?"

"Non of you business." replied the snotty district nurse

My computer is named "Bucephalus" - seemed to suit XP for me. Hope my one lasts as long.

My programme - well which century did Windows 98 come out?

I could be that your Windows 98 was written by the same man as wrote the "Dead Sea" Scrolls - no capital letters, no punctuation marks either - a remarkable similarity

ats a richt

rub at oot.

hae anither go.

Ihi.

na, na.

fin, fit far?

hud up there t'noo.

Lets gyang.

fit ye wyting for?

Jist a smidjin mare and ye'll be ah richt

Hud on ye're deeing fine.

Fit fits fit fin yere playing fitba? Oh, its ping pong is it?

addin machine? I aye thocht is wis ah bunch oh beads! Ah aye thoch it was cad something like Ahbackus (bit the meenister's says he wis the God o' demon rum.) Or something made oot oh Napiers aul bones.

lavvy, somewaye ye can dee three things at aye time.Yon James Clark Maxwell his an afa lot ti gi accoont oh when he invented that things that rins awye and cad them elektrons and the particles and then waveicles and then sint men tae the moon.

'nuff tae gee a man a reel sair heed.

Bit ah'll get ower it like athing else.

Bit far can I buy this marvelous bitty oh stuff that daes a lot oh ither stuff.

A'm sure that there'll be a fair as big as Aikey Brae selling it if ah can get mah hans on it.

A classic of mine from the Cantonese

"Tai, tai, tai din see."

"The lady of the house is watching television."

Thanks for the frivolity and fun you have brought into our garden - sorry - gairdin.

God bless.

randall.

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posted by randall

I and my wife have really enjoyed it but find it a mixture of Rabbie Burns Scots, Lowland Scots and Doric so "Far dae ye belang tae?"


Twas a lift from the joke site I posted the link to. I'm a fifer but can understand doric if you type slowly. The rumours are false so you'll no need your lang spoon. Been away so long I've lost the accent, can't put it on if I try but get it back if I talk to another fifer for half an hour. Born in St Andrews but am saving taking up golf until I am in my dotage-that way i won't have to suffer for long.:D
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Weel. weel, GMC,

Wir brithers aifter ah!

Mi didie wis David Reekie fae St Monance and emigrated tae Pittenweem and wis the only Reekie there.

He mayrid a country quine fae New Deer bit daide young and left her tae bring up a muckle big family walking around the countryside selling fish tae country folk tae bring them up.So if yer ah Reekie or an Anderson ye micht be related tae me.

On the BBC the nicht theyresaying that theyre sinning out a DVD in Doric so it canne abe si hard tae gate a haud oh.

There eest tae be a postcard of the Main Street in Pitten weem wi my grunnie stanning there outside the bunk wi her baisket on her shooders. Some may still hae it.

Ah wis aye ca'ed a half caste fin ah wis sayring ma time as an engineer becase half wis fae Buchan and half fae Fife.

The happiest days oh my childhood wis plahying oer the Gyles in Pittenweem.

God bless.

randall.

:)
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randall messing about with computers instead of boats,

Since being told by Tiscali to change over to Mozilla Firefox I have been getting a warning repated continuall.

405 methos not accept.

http not used.

orwaords to that effect.

How do I cure it.

PS My spell checker has disappeared again?

God bless.

randall

:)

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randall thanking GMC,

Your many warning were none too quick.

I managed to get rid of the "405 METHOD NOT ACCEPTED."

"HTTP NOT RECOGNISE"

I got rid of them by uninstalling all the MOZILLA family from my computer and reinstalling Internet Explorer and OUTLOOK EXPRESS.

I then reinstalled the Mozilla family as it said that it had 53 e-mails waiting for me and I cannot access them so far.

Firefox does seem to be a lot faster but I will take more care in the future.

It is having trouble getting Tiscali, etc to accept its advances for e-mails - I have written to Tiscali about this.

I have all the protextion I require. In fact I had too much and some systems interefere with the others so some had to go.

I have just obtained a copy of Shelley O'Hara's book "See it Done" - " Do It Yourself"

"EASY MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME EDITION"

Undfortunately, burning CD's and DVD's are not yet included in this publication.

God bless.

randall

:)
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Hi Randall...have you got Windows Media Player with you XP, if so it is easy to rip (copy) and burn (copy on to disc) . Bez xxx



P.S. About all your other problems. I had everything but the 'kitchen sink' on my old computer. When I bought this new one in January, I was determined to 'keep it simple' .

I use Hotmail for e-mails, get onto the internet with BT Broadband and just use Norton Internet Security for ....well yes...security. Defragment once a week to keep all the files in order and clear cookies etc regularly.
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randal here,

Thanks Bez for your compliments and advice.

"TOBY" is nine years old today so he and his brother next door exchanged "doggie" presents.

You may find it simple to "RIP" (Sometimes I feel like RIP!) and "BURN" but so far I have managed to ruin several disks in the attempt.

I have tried with a downloaded WINODWS XP BURNER (FREE) and a BURNCDCC and another one which I got rid of - all downloaded.

I will admit that I do not keep my computer clean as I am always adding "...interesting...." programmes and also do quite a bit of photogrpahic work with about four different systems.

Further to the earlier "BETTERWARE" incident. On Sunday our next door neighbour took us for Sundays lunchn- last Sunday - and more for fun, as cameras were clicking al around - it was the wife's mother's birthday I suddenly produced my tiny matchbox camera and took a series of photographs of them all. I knew that they would be variable in quality with the lack of a flash light. Anyway, last Monday I put themthrough the computer and printed them in various sizes from 4 x 6 to full A4 and my wife says that they were rally taken aback by the quality of a tiny camera - naturally it does not compare with even a cheap film camera but it is handy to carry in a breast pocket to take that £1,000 shot of something that should occur suddenly in front of you.

BUT YOU ARE RIGHT I should have learned my lesson and am now trying to gradually remove many programmes - oooooh some are so tempting.

The gentleman who installed my DVD Burner. etc and installed "NERO 6" in my machine simply gave it to me without any instruction - he had "created the "NERO 6" disk himself I suspect because it was just scribbled on with marker pen.

That I detest.

I obtained, on returning from the USA, a CD from the lady hypnoptherpist I had been attending before I went out there.

I tried, unsuccessfully to make duplicates because it is useful for my wife also, "Deep Relaxatrion and Self Hypnotherapy"

As she had just scribbled the name on the disc I immediately set about creating a nice label for it with the title and her name, telephone number, Mobile Phone number, etc. around it. In the centre I put a photograph I had taken, of an old 400 AD to 2400 AD, Greek monastery up on a sheer cliff which I had visited in Turkey and not very far from Mount Ararat. The Turks chjucked all the Greek Priests out in 1924.

I have become adebt at creating labels for disks and am very proud of my work and FIND THAT EASY,

I assumed that all I had to do was stick a CD into the cd-rom drive and a blank disk into the DVD drive and switch it on and it would be copied.

It was a casual remark by a stranger in Lidl's shop that put me onto the right track that the original has to be put into the DVD and recorded onto the hard disk and then remove the original and replace it with a blank on the DVD and then copy it off the hard drive.

BUT - being en engineer - and engineers have to worry to keep everything running, I will not be happy until I understand the system completely - albit, slowly. No one has managed to tell me what the differences are detween DVD + or - R or RW and the same with CD's.

My machine keeps telling me that the disc is not suitable or else - more often - "Please Place A Suitable CD/DVD In The Drive." WHEN THERE ALREADY DISKS IN THE DRIVES. IT HAS HAPPENED WITH BOTH THE DVD AND THE CD-ROM DRIVES.

One article I read did say that if you simply burned a few minutes onto a simple CD don't think that you can go back and burn more onto it - it just does not work that way.

You either fill the disk at one fell swoop or loose the remainder of the space.

Still, I am learning, albeit slowly and that way it sticks in my old brain.

Do you know that at my age in Scotland we get regular telephone calls from the NHS who ask us a series of questions to see if we are still compus mentos (or however you spell it.) To find out if you are round the bend anyway!

I usually ask them questions and they have had a lover than 25% pass rate with me so far.

I asked the district nurse and her trainee nurse yesterday, in our house visitng me, who was the prime minister at the start of WWII and who was the prime minister at the end of WWII.

They all fall into the same trap of saying, "Winston Churchill of course."

They have never heard of Neville Chamberlain and his attempts at peace making or that the public replaced Churchill with Attlee before the war ended.

I admit that I am playing on the knowledge that I gain

ed through living through it but at least it proves that I am still C.M.

GMC has passed on screeds of information trying to help me with the computer affairs and you have all been very kind to me.

In time, osmosis will allow it to penetrate my brain and be used usefully.

God Bless.

randall

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Nope you can't burn on the same cd more than once...no matter how minimal the minutes. I don't even buy cd's...everyone I have is burned :) And welcome! I keep things fairly simple in the computer world as well.

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Hi Randall..I started a thread for you a couple of days ago called 'Travellers Tales' ... be really nice if you could post some of your adventures there.



Your computer adventures are getting more complex every time I read them.:)



Try this link for help with your Nero6.... It's an online manual that you can download and print ... http://ww2.nero.com/nero6/eng/User_Guides.html



Have you got a separate machine for copying CDs or is it built in to your 'Actual computer' ?



This link may help to sort out all the different types of disc



http://www.megalodon.com/glossary_disc_replication.html



different types of discs are capable of doing different jobs,,,you'll figure it out in the end....just keep asking here although we're probably confusing you more....good luck.
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randall says hi to all,

And many happy returns of the day to caitlsngli2006.

I was in the midst of a nice long reply to Bez this forenoon when simultaneously the door bell rang and I had to go downstairs to answer it and my computer just froze up.

The cursor stopped blinking and the arrow would not move - at all.

I left it a few hours but when I came back it was still frozen so I had just to shut it down and lost all that I had written - I thought that every few minutes it saved everything I wrote - but where? I can never find it again.

BUT, just but, sometimes it suddenly reappears in pristine condition when I am not even looking for it.

I never really put my mind to learning computerwork logically by learning how to sort out files and sub-files and other niceties of office work. I KNOW it makes my life tougher!

There again, I spent most of my own working life fighting a loosing battle against ever increasing paper work (officework) (PROGRESS????) as I felt that the engineroom demanded more of my time and - I wasn't paid extra for paperwork PLUS the fact that as the years went by they reduced (DOWNSIZED!) the engineroom staff.

There were seventeen in the engineroom of my first ship and in the end I ended up being all alone - sometimes, when my wife was onboard she would help me to grind in the compressor valves, UNPAID.

Otherwise it was a routine of cleaning, painting, repairing and - of course - paperwork.

I devised a coloured graph or chart with what had to be done every day of the month and by adhering strictly to it managed to do just fine.

Some tasks had to done daily, others weekly and others fortnightly and then monthly.

I used a colour code of my own devising.

MAK (Engineworks) repair manual had the best code I ever saw. Every job that could possibly occur was listed in the index and when you turned to the page of any particular job they had, in pictures, all the tools you would require for the job. Alongside that list was small drawings of a man, a man and a half (work that one out) two men or three men and under the figures was the time the job would take.

All very interesting for an engineroom with one solitary person looking after it hundreds of miles out at sea.

One example, on one ship, MV "Lubbecke", Hamburg painted on the stern, flying the Panamanian flag - which cause us to be stopped over and over again by foreign marine police launches and asked for an explanation.

I had been asked to get down to Lowestoft as fast as I could - ending seven months of unemployment (and no "dole"!) - and take over this ship which had no engineer to hand over to me and show me anything in the engineroom - and sail immediately for Turkey.

I grabbed the opportunity and went.

Off Cape Matapan - famous for the sea battle (WWII) in which a few British cruisers and destroyers battered almost the entire Italian fleet and sent them scurrying home, battleships and all to the shelter of Taranto. They never left port again, I believe.

It was eight-o-clock in the morning and I had just had breakfast and was pulling on my boilersuit to go down into the engineroom when, suddenly, all the lights went out.

I dashed down below dreading to think what could have happened - at least the main engine was still running so we were still under command.

I found that the Mercedes generator had stopped simply because the rubber vee belts driving the cooling water pump had broken.

I started up the other genterator and then set about fitting new vee belts to the first generator.

Returning to my chart - I then noticed that these belts lasted approximately ten to twelve weeks steady running and that if I changed them every two months I never again had a breakage - and never had a blackout either.

One lives and one learns

Needless, almost, to say, these ships were all fitted with electronic alarms for almost everything and that alone allowed them to have one engineer. I worked a eight hour day with a walk around the engineroom about midnight before going to bed

One comical Liverpoodlian I sailed with described his last ship was of the latest design.

"It was so well alarmed that if you took the last of the toilet paper off the roll the general alaram went. off.". The "general alaram" meant everyone went to their appointed stations onboard the ship.

But I still think that the whole world is depending far too much on transistors and electronics - they need electricity to start with.

Leaving the port of Varna, Bulkgaria, in the Black Sea the bridge suddenly found that they had lost complete control of the main engine.

Remember we were given no explicit training in all these new fashioned ideas - we were expected to pick everything up by oursleves - without anyone else on the ship to ask.

The control from the bridge was pneumatic but I was unable, even with a telelphone call to Hamburg, to find the fault, and had to rig up a crude device consisting of a long metal pipe strapped to the engine controls to keep it running at a steady speed.

It worked well enough but we still had to go through the Dardanelles which is one of the busiest places in the nautical charts, worse than the Straits of Dover - but with me and my piece of pipe and shouting up a voice pipe to the bridge and them shouting back down at me we navigated the Hellespoint succesfully and this continued until we dockled at Rotterdam where the engine maker's men (MAK) came onboard and repaired it in less than an hour simply because they had seen the same fault on their engines over and over again.

One Croatian Chief engineer whom I replaced asked me, in fluent english, during the hand-over, how I could stand one-engineer ships.

I just shrugged my shoulders and said that it was a job, and they were as scarce as hens teeth and it brought in a wage to pay the mortgage.

He said, unexpectedly, "I feel very lonely on them. There is no one to speak to or about engineering. No one can help you and when things go wrong they have no sympathy for you and blame you for everything."

An interesting way of looking at it.

The first one I joined at the age of 44 was in Heulva in southern Spain - the Chief had actually been my second engineer on my last ship in Hong Kong fourteen years before.

The first night, in port, we had five false fire alarms.

Anyway, I lay in my bunk and thought about all the thousands of pieces of machinery running down below me unobserved and unattended and, even although the old chief was staying onboard till the next port, Balboa in northern Spain, I did not get a decent sleep for about two weeks.

And that was after he had left as well.

Despite it all. one telephone call tonight and I would be at the airport tomorrow morning ready to fly to Tokyo, Capetown or Freemantle.

One is as old as they feel and I know that I can still do that job and the worst job of my life, and I have had many, is retirement.

God bless.

randall.

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Dear Arnold Layne, randall here,

Just a quick thanks for your advice.

I never was given the choice of system of burning and ther are still very few books apparently avaiable on the subject.

So the service man who installed my DVD unit says and today, when I took another couple of boxes of books down to the library, the librarian went through everything she had and although the shelf of computer books has greatly leangthened in the past two years not one mentioned the subject.

So I will soldier on.

Experimenting.

My son-in-law uses " 1 Click" in Tampa. I looked it up on the internet and it seems interesting but I feel that I have enough systems if only I get through my thick head on how to use them.

I live in a rather strange area in which strangers speak more easily to you than the locals do to the locals.

It is mainly from strangers met whilst browsing in a supermarket that I have gleaned most of my useful information.

OH LOCALS are often quick enough to offer you help but you never see them again.

One young local man told me the other day that his mother had told him never to loan anything to a local person or he would never see it again.

I have had a cement mixer returned to me full of hard cement, a burned out circular saw (not replaced on the excuse that they could not find the exact model)- with which they tried to cut cement building blocks for a wall they were building and a brand new HOVER MOWER, whcih we ourselves had never used all loaned out and apart from the cement mixer, never returned.

God bless.

randall.

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Hi Randall.....hope 'computer' things are coming together.....love your tales. Keep'em coming.....:-6
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randall boasting,

Received a very nice letter of thanks from the Library Service in North East Scotland thanking me for all the books and volumes of encylopaedias(?) I have taken down to the local library over the past few weeks.

I gave then some a couple of years back too.

I feel that they will be put to much better use than giving them to charity shops and perhaps, just perhaps, may egg on some budding Einstein in his quest for knowledge. As it did mine.

Books do not need batteries or electricity.

A note to the younger generation. When we bought them we envisage that some day our children would arrive in the not too distant future and read them avidly in their studies for school exams - Some of our friends children did!

The rough outline of the plan is as your children grow up they use all these things and when they marry and move out and have their own children a lot of those books, toys, games, meccano, lego, model trains and so forth will go with them.

Alas - ours never arrived as my wife lost one baby after another until, eventually a little girl arrived who was actually born and changed our flat into a home.

She turned out to be as gifted as her grandfather and aunt was and did us proud with her scholastic achievements.

The first, ever, in our family to go to university and ended up with an honours degree. She appeared to be as surprised as we all were.

Unfortunately she was striken with the same problem as my wife and her (my daughter's) mother in law - endimetriosis - and even lost three babies in one year whilst living in Saudi.

Eventually, like my own mother, she gave birth to a daughter inm Saudi who is doing well at twelve in Tampa, and six years later a son who not only was born in Scotland but was christened in the same church as Mary Queen of Scots. St Michaels at the Palace of Linlithgow.

Perhaps even the same font?

I am eight years younger than my other sibling, a sister, so their family is exactly the same.

Older daughter and younger son.

American doctors in Hong Kong told me that they call this "Two only children" as neither as any effect upon the other's growing up.

Neither psychologically, mentally, or physically.

I can relate to that but because it was wartime things were different.

I was just getting to know girls as my sister started bringing her "chums" - boys and girls - to the house when suddenly they were, along with my father, and all my friends fathers, away to the war from which many did not return.

I feel it did have a deep psychiological effect on my relationship with the female sex ever since.

This was probably exacerbated as young people "learn" to be adults by seeing their parents and elder sibling, aunts and uncles "playing" adult games such as dancing at wedding etc.

As our strict religious upbring prohibited dancing ( I saw my sister being beaten once for daring to go to a dance) and going to the pictures (cinemas) also were streng verboten; there was little for young people left to entertain themselves in a wartorn counrty without wireless, gramophones and all that is deemed necessities of a young life nowadays.

Our only "recreation" was attending religious meetings and Sunday Schools and because of the trauma my mother went through in the First World War she would not let me join The Boy's Brigade, The Boy Scouts, The Air Scouts, Sea Scout, etc. as in her warped mind "They were ALL one step away from wearing an army uniform."

Believe it or not I can actually understand her twisted logic in a way because she constantly spoke about coming out of the Jute Mills and Jam Factories in Dundee at every break and all the girls were crowding round the lists of "Killed" and "Missing in Action" which were nailed to the factory gates and updated every few hours.

Please remember, that all over Britain the males of whole entire small towns and villages were killed in one afternoon - 60,000 in eight hiours at The Somme, I believe. They joined up together, trained together, fought and died together.

It was a lesson the British Generals were determined not repeat in World War Two as they had all lived through it too.

Many a time I have stood reading the names of dozens of men killed in action on some remote war memorial high up in the Scottish Highlands and when I lookled around at the beautiful, but empty landscape I wondered upon jus where did those men come from. Their very villages have vanished.

My mother must have seen many a woman faint and beakdown crying when she realised that her loved one, son or husband or brother would not be coming home.

These notices were the most advanced means of disemmination of information in those days.

People speak far too lioghtly of war.

Old men start them but it is the young who have to fight them - after all they only want young, healthy, fit boys to be killed.

When will they ever learn?

God bless.

randall

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Lovely tale Randall...I love reading your posts. So true about war. I think that as the generation that lived through the 1st and 2nd world war leave us, that the memories of the horrors of war will recede as well.......we should never forget.
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Another of randall's questions, seriously,

You are like the Encylodaedia Britannica in holgraphic form- between youa all - or should I says "...youse'll..."?)

One computershop technician told me that all the various standards of DVD's and CD's are simply to make life difficult for all of us - especially the "world zoning" of certain DVD films which means if you buy it in the USA, I am told, it will not play in Europe or Great Britain. My son in law hates world zoning as he is always on the move almost five days a week.

He, the technician, may be wrong.

My question is, with all these programmes to BURN discs (disks) do you have to and is there provision in the programmes to set it or them up for whatever particular form of disc you are happening to use.

Here, those who can don't tell, but it was always thus.

Speaking from an engineering point of view even as an apprentice there were apprentices or tradesmen who managed to work out how to do this or that but would not do it in front of anyone nor tell anyone how it was done.

We used to refer to it jokingly as Bill or Tom's patent.

The worst case of this in my experience was in Sharjah,(Next door to Dubai. UAE) where my port engine had to get a new crankshaft fitted through the stupid, stubborn, determination or a master not to slow the engine down when we told him it was overheating.

I was later to find out from another Polar Atlas service engineer that "The designers had created a nightmare of problems for us especially with the cooling circulating the cylinder heads."

The flow was very erratic to say the least.

He (the master) thought he knew better - the ship was out of action for over three months.

Instead of calling out company men from the "Polar Atlas Works" in St Helen's Street, Glasgow, Scotland to oversee/do the whole job (probably two men, three at most) the Saudi owners paid $60,000.00 for a new crankshaft and depended on the local dockyard workers, a large mixture of English, Scots, Dubians and other Arabs but mainly Indian and Pakistani and a sprinkling of Sihks and Afgans - and they were all prestty good general engineers/mechanics, but who had never had such a big and complicated job in their lives before, to install it.

It really was a handfull as the engine had to be removed rfrom the ship, turned upside down on the dockyard - in the open air - luckily there was no rain during that period.

Then stipped down into its individual components completely. At least that is how they did it?

Eventually, a job which should have taken three or four weeks took three months and then when they tried to start the engine we all found it difficult to set up the governor again - IT IS REALLY WATCHMAKING EXPERTISE.

At last they brought out a Polar Atlas man from Glasgow to set it up.

He was nearly 65. Only three weeks to go before he retired from the company which he had joined at fifteen.

That man refused to even touch the engine unless the engineroom was absolutely empty so that no one would see what he did.

Perhaps he was one of the best at it but I feel that his logic towards his profession was a bit misplaced.

I often think that it was an insult to his profession.

He went home without even a farewell.

Anyway, the job done and me, well over my allotted six months service period. I went home on a month's leave and the ship sailed under a new , temporary chief engineer.

I am still looking for a fairly cheap guide book to initiate me into the mistaries of burning cd's and dvd's

God bless all.

randall.

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Hi Randall....this link may help but there is also lots of other stuff on the internet. You can print them off for future reference



http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... howto.aspx
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randall here,

Thanks a million Bez. I have glanced at the site mentioned and it does look promising but I think I will have to download a lot of paper to study it all.

I am the first to admit that I frequently do not see the wood for the trees or vice versa.

What would this foum be like without all you girls plus, of course, GMC and Arnold Layne and a few others who have all fed me valualble information.

I have tried downloading several spelling checks but - like you - it might be that some of the awful junk on my PC is stopping them from settling in.

God bless you all.

randall

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randall here trying to stretch the elasticity of this thread.

Has anyone any report on those wonderful programmes advertised to sorting out all the kinks in your computer automatically.

I want to know if they really work

I tested ones that show that you have a thousand one faults in your files, register, programmes and so on but they don't fix anything - but they promise that they will do if you buy them.

I have been done before by downloading a programme which never arrived but I didn't get my money back.

I much prefer them to offer a disc or disk because then if you have a breakdown you still have the disco to reinsert the programme.

Just a question I thought would be worth asking.??????

God Bless All.

randall

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