How many of you remember what it was like to be teased in school by other kids? I do, but it was nothing like it is now. Kids now days are downright crel with what the say and call other kids. I contacted my childrens principle (?) today due to the fact my oldest boy came home crying yesterday. I knew he was being called names and we tried different things like, I know I'm fat! Wouldn't I make an awesome quarterback? He tried ignoring them, he even tried to tell the bus driver that these kids were calling him names and she'd give him a verbal warning and by the time he got off the bus he was to upset to tell the bus driver what was going on. I know kids call each other names like, fatso, four eyes, and so on but when they start calling your child a faggot, fag wad, and saying your fat ass should be in a mental institute you have to draw the line and report them. That's what I did. The principle and the sheriff of the school told the four boys that if they ever spoke another bad word that was negative to Michael again, not only could I press charges for harrassement but someone, either them or their parent(s) could possibly go to jail. The principle told me the four boys stood up straight as a board, with wide eyes and just looked at each other in disbelief. I wouldn't press charges over something like that. Now, if they hit or threatened my son, well, that's a different story.
What would any of you have done if you were in my shoes if anything?
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Being as I was born cross eyed, had the op to fix them when I was two, I had to wear patches and glasses up to the time I was in the fifth grade. I was made fun of ceaselessly. I just usually beat the crap out of whoever was tormenting me.
Good news is, by the time I was in eighth grade, I came into my own as far as looks. I got the last laugh.
Good news is, by the time I was in eighth grade, I came into my own as far as looks. I got the last laugh.
~Quoth the Raven, Nevermore!~
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Yep. The moral of the story is, I was never a follower because of that. I learned to make my own decisions and come to my own conclusions. Because I 'looked' odd to others in a group, I never became a 'groupie'. I am much the happier because of this.
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I would press charges next time and make an example out of them. Its tough to teach your child how wrong it is and quite another to keep his slef esteem up when he experiences such torment.
When I was a Junior in high school, there was akid named Brian Head. He was overweight and people made fun of him relentlessly. He shot himself in March of 1994 right in the middle of 3rd period. I wasnt there. I was in the cafeteria and he did it in a social studies class. There was a kid in there picking on him and he just pulled out the gun and held it to his head and pulled the trigger. His last words were something like "Im tired of this ****". You can google him if you'd like. The infor is:
Brian Head
Etowah High School
Woodstock, Georgia
Died 1994, he was a sophomore.
Lots of kids never made fun of anyone else after that. I will never forget it.
When I was a Junior in high school, there was akid named Brian Head. He was overweight and people made fun of him relentlessly. He shot himself in March of 1994 right in the middle of 3rd period. I wasnt there. I was in the cafeteria and he did it in a social studies class. There was a kid in there picking on him and he just pulled out the gun and held it to his head and pulled the trigger. His last words were something like "Im tired of this ****". You can google him if you'd like. The infor is:
Brian Head
Etowah High School
Woodstock, Georgia
Died 1994, he was a sophomore.
Lots of kids never made fun of anyone else after that. I will never forget it.
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This is a small paragraph from Time.com
Georgia began its pioneering efforts to legislate against bullying after two school tragedies. In 1994 Brian Head, a chubby, bespectacled 15-year-old who had been taunted for years, broke when a classmate at Etowah High School in Woodstock slapped him. He shouted, "I can't take it anymore!," pulled out a gun and shot himself in the head. Four years later, Josh Belluardo was punched in the head--and killed--by a bully who also attended Etowah. The next year, Georgia passed a three-strikes-and-you're-out policy. After three bullying offenses, middle and high school students may be shipped to a school for problem kids.
Georgia began its pioneering efforts to legislate against bullying after two school tragedies. In 1994 Brian Head, a chubby, bespectacled 15-year-old who had been taunted for years, broke when a classmate at Etowah High School in Woodstock slapped him. He shouted, "I can't take it anymore!," pulled out a gun and shot himself in the head. Four years later, Josh Belluardo was punched in the head--and killed--by a bully who also attended Etowah. The next year, Georgia passed a three-strikes-and-you're-out policy. After three bullying offenses, middle and high school students may be shipped to a school for problem kids.
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Teasing by children needs to be taken seriously. Whenever a student comlpains to me about bullying, unkind remarks, etc I immediately send them up to the guidance office for it to be documented. You never know how much of this is going on without an adult around, and can lead to tragedies like DG described. That way someone is on it quickly, and you try to stop anything serious.
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I never got bullied, but my sister did. Relentlessly. She's overweight and this one particular boy, Rick Berner would find great pleasure at seeing my sister cry. I used to go after him like a wildcat. Teachers always stopped me before I could get my hands around his throat. I'd be getting dragged away screaming at the bastard.
One day it was recess, and we were all out on the playground, middle of winter. Berner started in on my sister and I went over to where we had this small pond, busted off a huge chunk of ice, came up behind him and whacked him upside the head with it. Knocked him out cold. I was standing over him when he came to a few seconds later just so he knew who had clocked him.
A few stitches later, and he laid off my sister. My mom was p!ssed at me, my dad thought it was the coolest thing ever. Sometimes you have to stand up to these idiots. Diplomacy and talking it out doesn't always work. Sometimes, someone's ass just needs to get kicked.
One day it was recess, and we were all out on the playground, middle of winter. Berner started in on my sister and I went over to where we had this small pond, busted off a huge chunk of ice, came up behind him and whacked him upside the head with it. Knocked him out cold. I was standing over him when he came to a few seconds later just so he knew who had clocked him.
A few stitches later, and he laid off my sister. My mom was p!ssed at me, my dad thought it was the coolest thing ever. Sometimes you have to stand up to these idiots. Diplomacy and talking it out doesn't always work. Sometimes, someone's ass just needs to get kicked.
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BabyRider wrote: I never got bullied, but my sister did. Relentlessly. She's overweight and this one particular boy, Rick Berner would find great pleasure at seeing my sister cry. I used to go after him like a wildcat. Teachers always stopped me before I could get my hands around his throat. I'd be getting dragged away screaming at the bastard.
One day it was recess, and we were all out on the playground, middle of winter. Berner started in on my sister and I went over to where we had this small pond, busted off a huge chunk of ice, came up behind him and whacked him upside the head with it. Knocked him out cold. I was standing over him when he came to a few seconds later just so he knew who had clocked him.
A few stitches later, and he laid off my sister. My mom was p!ssed at me, my dad thought it was the coolest thing ever. Sometimes you have to stand up to these idiots. Diplomacy and talking it out doesn't always work. Sometimes, someone's ass just needs to get kicked.
I'm with you on this one. The kids bullying today never seem to get the punishment they ought to, for their needless cruelty.
But I come from a time and a place when we slugged it out amongst ourselves. I too defended a sibling from bullies. Now that sibling is plenty capable of defending himself! (I'm older by 5 years, and he was a runt!)
One day it was recess, and we were all out on the playground, middle of winter. Berner started in on my sister and I went over to where we had this small pond, busted off a huge chunk of ice, came up behind him and whacked him upside the head with it. Knocked him out cold. I was standing over him when he came to a few seconds later just so he knew who had clocked him.
A few stitches later, and he laid off my sister. My mom was p!ssed at me, my dad thought it was the coolest thing ever. Sometimes you have to stand up to these idiots. Diplomacy and talking it out doesn't always work. Sometimes, someone's ass just needs to get kicked.
I'm with you on this one. The kids bullying today never seem to get the punishment they ought to, for their needless cruelty.
But I come from a time and a place when we slugged it out amongst ourselves. I too defended a sibling from bullies. Now that sibling is plenty capable of defending himself! (I'm older by 5 years, and he was a runt!)
~Quoth the Raven, Nevermore!~
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You know, as a teacher I am in the position of trying my best to protect the kids. But sometimes the line is drawn, I've known of parents egging the kids on. I always tell a child who is at the point of getting into a fight, to try the counselor, then go home and talk to their parents-and take their advice. That way if they encourage force, it's coming from home and not me.
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The Red One wrote: How many of you remember what it was like to be teased in school by other kids? I do, but it was nothing like it is now. Kids now days are downright crel with what the say and call other kids. I contacted my childrens principle (?) today due to the fact my oldest boy came home crying yesterday. I knew he was being called names and we tried different things like, I know I'm fat! Wouldn't I make an awesome quarterback? He tried ignoring them, he even tried to tell the bus driver that these kids were calling him names and she'd give him a verbal warning and by the time he got off the bus he was to upset to tell the bus driver what was going on. I know kids call each other names like, fatso, four eyes, and so on but when they start calling your child a faggot, fag wad, and saying your fat ass should be in a mental institute you have to draw the line and report them. That's what I did. The principle and the sheriff of the school told the four boys that if they ever spoke another bad word that was negative to Michael again, not only could I press charges for harrassement but someone, either them or their parent(s) could possibly go to jail. The principle told me the four boys stood up straight as a board, with wide eyes and just looked at each other in disbelief. I wouldn't press charges over something like that. Now, if they hit or threatened my son, well, that's a different story.
What would any of you have done if you were in my shoes if anything?
Well,
You can tell him what my old man told me.....
which was " If someone bothers you or picks on you , bust him right in the face, and he wont assume even speak to you again."
I never really had anyone pick on me in school because I had always let it be known that if anyone screwed with me that I would make their face look like grinded hamburger.
I havnt lost a fight Ive ever fought.
Im 5' 11" 180 and I still think I can beat the hellfire out of anyone....(but I am realistic in weight differentuals)
What would any of you have done if you were in my shoes if anything?
Well,
You can tell him what my old man told me.....
which was " If someone bothers you or picks on you , bust him right in the face, and he wont assume even speak to you again."
I never really had anyone pick on me in school because I had always let it be known that if anyone screwed with me that I would make their face look like grinded hamburger.
I havnt lost a fight Ive ever fought.
Im 5' 11" 180 and I still think I can beat the hellfire out of anyone....(but I am realistic in weight differentuals)
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BabyRider wrote: I never got bullied, but my sister did. Relentlessly. She's overweight and this one particular boy, Rick Berner would find great pleasure at seeing my sister cry. I used to go after him like a wildcat. Teachers always stopped me before I could get my hands around his throat. I'd be getting dragged away screaming at the bastard.
One day it was recess, and we were all out on the playground, middle of winter. Berner started in on my sister and I went over to where we had this small pond, busted off a huge chunk of ice, came up behind him and whacked him upside the head with it. Knocked him out cold. I was standing over him when he came to a few seconds later just so he knew who had clocked him.
A few stitches later, and he laid off my sister. My mom was p!ssed at me, my dad thought it was the coolest thing ever. Sometimes you have to stand up to these idiots. Diplomacy and talking it out doesn't always work. Sometimes, someone's ass just needs to get kicked.
The problem is you have to be strong enough to kick someone's ass!
At primary school my daughter was constantly picked on by one particularly viscious girl. She even threatened to bring her fathers shotgun to school and blow my daughters brains out!
All my daughters friends moved on to the same secondary school, but, knowing this evil child was also going there, I sent my daughter to a different school. Then on the first day there, this evil brat turned up! And she made my daughter's life hell! I have since found that this is a really bad school for bullying and that the teachers just turn their backs! Bullies are not reprimanded but those who complain about them are suspended! The teachers absolutely deny that any bullying takes place!
My daughter turned from being a happy, hard-working child into a rude and surly stranger who also sobbed her heart out for hours every night, begging not to have to go back.
I tried moving her to the school her friends were in, but the headmistress was friendly with the other head teacher and refused to take my daughter, saying she had to go back and stand up to the bullies! One against 50!!!
This seemed absolutely ludicrous to me! The name-calling and taunting and the nasty tricks played were horrendous and the kids were always stealing her things and either keeping them or breaking them! I felt that the time was approaching when they would become violent with her, not just with her possessions.
So after a whole year of this I told the school that I thought their methods were appalling and I pulled my daughter out of school and am now home-schooling her!
It's not an ideal solution, but she is MUCH happier than she was and she is more like the child she used to be.
One day it was recess, and we were all out on the playground, middle of winter. Berner started in on my sister and I went over to where we had this small pond, busted off a huge chunk of ice, came up behind him and whacked him upside the head with it. Knocked him out cold. I was standing over him when he came to a few seconds later just so he knew who had clocked him.
A few stitches later, and he laid off my sister. My mom was p!ssed at me, my dad thought it was the coolest thing ever. Sometimes you have to stand up to these idiots. Diplomacy and talking it out doesn't always work. Sometimes, someone's ass just needs to get kicked.
The problem is you have to be strong enough to kick someone's ass!
At primary school my daughter was constantly picked on by one particularly viscious girl. She even threatened to bring her fathers shotgun to school and blow my daughters brains out!
All my daughters friends moved on to the same secondary school, but, knowing this evil child was also going there, I sent my daughter to a different school. Then on the first day there, this evil brat turned up! And she made my daughter's life hell! I have since found that this is a really bad school for bullying and that the teachers just turn their backs! Bullies are not reprimanded but those who complain about them are suspended! The teachers absolutely deny that any bullying takes place!
My daughter turned from being a happy, hard-working child into a rude and surly stranger who also sobbed her heart out for hours every night, begging not to have to go back.
I tried moving her to the school her friends were in, but the headmistress was friendly with the other head teacher and refused to take my daughter, saying she had to go back and stand up to the bullies! One against 50!!!
This seemed absolutely ludicrous to me! The name-calling and taunting and the nasty tricks played were horrendous and the kids were always stealing her things and either keeping them or breaking them! I felt that the time was approaching when they would become violent with her, not just with her possessions.
So after a whole year of this I told the school that I thought their methods were appalling and I pulled my daughter out of school and am now home-schooling her!
It's not an ideal solution, but she is MUCH happier than she was and she is more like the child she used to be.
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See I just dont understand how they could have turned a blind eye to that! Knowing how the situation is over here, I would have done the same thing you did. Your childs wellbeing is more important.
Which brings us back to the point of the bullies just get away with it! Why? What the hell is the matter with people?:-2
Which brings us back to the point of the bullies just get away with it! Why? What the hell is the matter with people?:-2
~Quoth the Raven, Nevermore!~
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Geeze, Rap, that is f-ed up. Adults that are there to protect the kids as well as teach them allowing this to happen, I reckon I'd be going down and having some "teacher" for lunch. And maybe a principal as an appetizer.
I'm glad your daughter is happier now and doesn't have to put up with this, and it frankly sounds like a conspiracy. Why would any normal human being think it's ok for a little girl to have to stand up against 50 others? It's inhuman.
(When the hell have I ever said "reckon"??)
I'm glad your daughter is happier now and doesn't have to put up with this, and it frankly sounds like a conspiracy. Why would any normal human being think it's ok for a little girl to have to stand up against 50 others? It's inhuman.
(When the hell have I ever said "reckon"??)
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Bullet's trial was a farce. Can I get an AMEN?????
We won't be punished for our sins, but BY them.
~Darrel Worley~
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We won't be punished for our sins, but BY them.
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Rapunzel, did you report this higher up, to the school board?
You should, so they know it was allowed to continue.
You should, so they know it was allowed to continue.
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Hi Chonsi, no I didn't. It was hard to know what to do for the best. Also, my son also goes to this school and I don't want him to suffer from any backlash.
He has always been slower than his peers in the past (he has learning difficulties), but this year, for the VERY first year, he has finally caught up with them. (I think the kids mess about in class so much that they don't seem to get time to learn much!) Also, although he has been bullied a little, it has been a very mild amount and he can deal with it. He is also very popular and has a LOT of friends, both boys and girls, and I don't want to jeopardise things for him. He was quite a loner at primary school and is very happy with all his new friends now. I think I will probably complain to the inspector of schools once my son has left.
He has always been slower than his peers in the past (he has learning difficulties), but this year, for the VERY first year, he has finally caught up with them. (I think the kids mess about in class so much that they don't seem to get time to learn much!) Also, although he has been bullied a little, it has been a very mild amount and he can deal with it. He is also very popular and has a LOT of friends, both boys and girls, and I don't want to jeopardise things for him. He was quite a loner at primary school and is very happy with all his new friends now. I think I will probably complain to the inspector of schools once my son has left.
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Oh, that is a good idea. But it shouldn't go without mention, that is so unfair to your daughter to be bullied in this way.
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I run a school for alternative children. That means that I have more than the usual percentage of bullies in there.
The only policy for this is a no-tolerance one. If I see or suspect bullying, I come down on the party like a ton of bricks falling off a freight train. I make bullies lives complicated and miserable.
Unfortunately, I've found that both sides lie to me consistently. The children lie to their parents, the parents lie to each other, and everyone lies to me.
So I just document every incident no matter how small and when I get enough to be on legal footing... I toss them out. Just like you would cut out a cancer to save the rest of the body. One example is usually all I have to make.
Of course a tough policy has it's price. That's how I ended up two death threats to myself and my wife and a bullet in my mailbox earlier this year.
That may be why some of the teachers you have dealt with in the past have been less than effective. They like living and breathing.
The only policy for this is a no-tolerance one. If I see or suspect bullying, I come down on the party like a ton of bricks falling off a freight train. I make bullies lives complicated and miserable.
Unfortunately, I've found that both sides lie to me consistently. The children lie to their parents, the parents lie to each other, and everyone lies to me.
So I just document every incident no matter how small and when I get enough to be on legal footing... I toss them out. Just like you would cut out a cancer to save the rest of the body. One example is usually all I have to make.
Of course a tough policy has it's price. That's how I ended up two death threats to myself and my wife and a bullet in my mailbox earlier this year.
That may be why some of the teachers you have dealt with in the past have been less than effective. They like living and breathing.
All the world's a stage and the men and women merely players...Shakespeare
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Around here, teachers seem to have "selective hearing". They do not hear the bully but they hear the retaliation. It sounds like your school actually wants to help which is wonderful. Next time he is bullied, press the charges. Let them be an example. At one time, a person I respected a lot said that it the bullied person's own fault. They should change. You know, that was many months ago and I never did recover full respect for that person. No matter what you do, if a person is the bullying type, they will not stop. I hate bullies and guess that is why I stick up for the underdog so often.
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Rapunzel wrote: The problem is you have to be strong enough to kick someone's ass!
At primary school my daughter was constantly picked on by one particularly viscious girl. She even threatened to bring her fathers shotgun to school and blow my daughters brains out!
All my daughters friends moved on to the same secondary school, but, knowing this evil child was also going there, I sent my daughter to a different school. Then on the first day there, this evil brat turned up! And she made my daughter's life hell! I have since found that this is a really bad school for bullying and that the teachers just turn their backs! Bullies are not reprimanded but those who complain about them are suspended! The teachers absolutely deny that any bullying takes place!
My daughter turned from being a happy, hard-working child into a rude and surly stranger who also sobbed her heart out for hours every night, begging not to have to go back.
I tried moving her to the school her friends were in, but the headmistress was friendly with the other head teacher and refused to take my daughter, saying she had to go back and stand up to the bullies! One against 50!!!
This seemed absolutely ludicrous to me! The name-calling and taunting and the nasty tricks played were horrendous and the kids were always stealing her things and either keeping them or breaking them! I felt that the time was approaching when they would become violent with her, not just with her possessions.
So after a whole year of this I told the school that I thought their methods were appalling and I pulled my daughter out of school and am now home-schooling her!
It's not an ideal solution, but she is MUCH happier than she was and she is more like the child she used to be.
See they would have had to just shoot me then cause i would have cold cocked someone in the face by the second day.....
At primary school my daughter was constantly picked on by one particularly viscious girl. She even threatened to bring her fathers shotgun to school and blow my daughters brains out!
All my daughters friends moved on to the same secondary school, but, knowing this evil child was also going there, I sent my daughter to a different school. Then on the first day there, this evil brat turned up! And she made my daughter's life hell! I have since found that this is a really bad school for bullying and that the teachers just turn their backs! Bullies are not reprimanded but those who complain about them are suspended! The teachers absolutely deny that any bullying takes place!
My daughter turned from being a happy, hard-working child into a rude and surly stranger who also sobbed her heart out for hours every night, begging not to have to go back.
I tried moving her to the school her friends were in, but the headmistress was friendly with the other head teacher and refused to take my daughter, saying she had to go back and stand up to the bullies! One against 50!!!
This seemed absolutely ludicrous to me! The name-calling and taunting and the nasty tricks played were horrendous and the kids were always stealing her things and either keeping them or breaking them! I felt that the time was approaching when they would become violent with her, not just with her possessions.
So after a whole year of this I told the school that I thought their methods were appalling and I pulled my daughter out of school and am now home-schooling her!
It's not an ideal solution, but she is MUCH happier than she was and she is more like the child she used to be.
See they would have had to just shoot me then cause i would have cold cocked someone in the face by the second day.....
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K.Snyder wrote: See they would have had to just shoot me then cause i would have cold cocked someone in the face by the second day.....
You and I would get along so well.....:yh_bigsmi
You and I would get along so well.....:yh_bigsmi
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Bullet's trial was a farce. Can I get an AMEN?????
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Bullet's trial was a farce. Can I get an AMEN?????
We won't be punished for our sins, but BY them.
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Peg wrote: Around here, teachers seem to have "selective hearing". They do not hear the bully but they hear the retaliation.
There's a good reason for that, Peg. Bullies are sneaky. They don't want to be in trouble themselves, most of them are cowards, so they do things when the teachers aren't looking. Then when the other student blows their lid and attracts the teachers attention, it looks like the victim is the instigator and, of course, the bully acts innocent. "I don't know what his problem is, I didn't do anything!"
Teachers aren't superhuman, we can be fooled too.
The worst part of that is now you have physical evidence on the victim, and only hearsay on the bully.
At one time, a person I respected a lot said that it the bullied person's own fault.
That's reprehensible. Now that I've said that, there are students that seem to set themselves up as perpetual victims. I should know, I was one of them. I used to get beat up at the bus stop every day. I was small, mousy, shy, nerdy little kid, and I had no idea how to defend myself thanks to a pair of pacifist parents. The perfect target for a cowardly bully.
I moved to another town, took weightlifting and karate, changed my style and mannerisms and viola! All bullying ended. Most bullies, like I have said, absolutely do NOT want a confrontation with an equal. They are cowards who pick on the weak.
Don't we teach women how to avoid becoming victims of street crimes by exuding a self-confident image that says, "I am not an easy target?"
Why should we teach children any differently?
Do yourself a favor, teach your children self defense. Then if, God forbid, they should get picked on physically, at least the danger to themselves is lessened and it may even spook the bullies enough to get the bullies to leave them alone.
There's a good reason for that, Peg. Bullies are sneaky. They don't want to be in trouble themselves, most of them are cowards, so they do things when the teachers aren't looking. Then when the other student blows their lid and attracts the teachers attention, it looks like the victim is the instigator and, of course, the bully acts innocent. "I don't know what his problem is, I didn't do anything!"
Teachers aren't superhuman, we can be fooled too.
The worst part of that is now you have physical evidence on the victim, and only hearsay on the bully.
At one time, a person I respected a lot said that it the bullied person's own fault.
That's reprehensible. Now that I've said that, there are students that seem to set themselves up as perpetual victims. I should know, I was one of them. I used to get beat up at the bus stop every day. I was small, mousy, shy, nerdy little kid, and I had no idea how to defend myself thanks to a pair of pacifist parents. The perfect target for a cowardly bully.
I moved to another town, took weightlifting and karate, changed my style and mannerisms and viola! All bullying ended. Most bullies, like I have said, absolutely do NOT want a confrontation with an equal. They are cowards who pick on the weak.
Don't we teach women how to avoid becoming victims of street crimes by exuding a self-confident image that says, "I am not an easy target?"
Why should we teach children any differently?
Do yourself a favor, teach your children self defense. Then if, God forbid, they should get picked on physically, at least the danger to themselves is lessened and it may even spook the bullies enough to get the bullies to leave them alone.
All the world's a stage and the men and women merely players...Shakespeare
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Jives wrote: There's a good reason for that, Peg. Bullies are sneaky. They don't want to be in trouble themselves, most of them are cowards, so they do things when the teachers aren't looking. Then when the other student blows their lid and attracts the teachers attention, it looks like the victim is the instigator and, of course, the bully acts innocent. "I don't know what his problem is, I didn't do anything!"
Teachers aren't superhuman, we can be fooled too.
The worst part of that is now you have physical evidence on the victim, and only hearsay on the bully.
That's reprehensible. Now that I've said that, there are students that seem to set themselves up as perpetual victims. I should know, I was one of them. I used to get beat up at the bus stop every day. I was small, mousy, shy, nerdy little kid, and I had no idea how to defend myself thanks to a pair of pacifist parents. The perfect target for a cowardly bully.
I moved to another town, took weightlifting and karate, changed my style and mannerisms and viola! All bullying ended. Most bullies, like I have said, absolutely do NOT want a confrontation with an equal. They are cowards who pick on the weak.
Don't we teach women how to avoid becoming victims of street crimes by exuding a self-confident image that says, "I am not an easy target?"
Why should we teach children any differently?
Do yourself a favor, teach your children self defense. Then if, God forbid, they should get picked on physically, at least the danger to themselves is lessened and it may even spook the bullies enough to get the bullies to leave them alone.
I know you teach a special school but what, if any, have been your experiences with bullying? I thought the advice about self defense was a great idea. But as a teacher, Im sure you could fill me in on some experiences.
Teachers aren't superhuman, we can be fooled too.
The worst part of that is now you have physical evidence on the victim, and only hearsay on the bully.
That's reprehensible. Now that I've said that, there are students that seem to set themselves up as perpetual victims. I should know, I was one of them. I used to get beat up at the bus stop every day. I was small, mousy, shy, nerdy little kid, and I had no idea how to defend myself thanks to a pair of pacifist parents. The perfect target for a cowardly bully.
I moved to another town, took weightlifting and karate, changed my style and mannerisms and viola! All bullying ended. Most bullies, like I have said, absolutely do NOT want a confrontation with an equal. They are cowards who pick on the weak.
Don't we teach women how to avoid becoming victims of street crimes by exuding a self-confident image that says, "I am not an easy target?"
Why should we teach children any differently?
Do yourself a favor, teach your children self defense. Then if, God forbid, they should get picked on physically, at least the danger to themselves is lessened and it may even spook the bullies enough to get the bullies to leave them alone.
I know you teach a special school but what, if any, have been your experiences with bullying? I thought the advice about self defense was a great idea. But as a teacher, Im sure you could fill me in on some experiences.
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Jives wrote: I run a school for alternative children. That means that I have more than the usual percentage of bullies in there.
The only policy for this is a no-tolerance one. If I see or suspect bullying, I come down on the party like a ton of bricks falling off a freight train. I make bullies lives complicated and miserable.
Unfortunately, I've found that both sides lie to me consistently. The children lie to their parents, the parents lie to each other, and everyone lies to me.
So I just document every incident no matter how small and when I get enough to be on legal footing... I toss them out. Just like you would cut out a cancer to save the rest of the body. One example is usually all I have to make.
Of course a tough policy has it's price. That's how I ended up two death threats to myself and my wife and a bullet in my mailbox earlier this year.
That may be why some of the teachers you have dealt with in the past have been less than effective. They like living and breathing.
Unfortunately Jives I didn't document the incidences!
I know now that I should have done!
Guns aren't a way of life here and so it's not a case of teachers being scared for their lives, but more of them following by example. They seem to find it easier to ignore the bullies rather than deal with them!
My son came home from school a while back with a cut on his face between his eye and his eyebrow. Apparently there is a pathway lined with hundreds of tiny stones, and some boys, for a laugh, put the stones on a low wall and kick them as hard as they can, to try and break some school windows! Because it's fun! Ha ha ha! NOT!!!
Nearby, 2 dinner ladies stand and sell hot tuck at lunchtimes to the kids. They always stand so their backs are towards these boys, because if they don't 'see' them, then they don't have to shout at them (and have the kids swear at them, of course!) My kids have picked up ome pretty foul language from that school too! But that's another story!
Anyway, my son walked along a path that crosses the path these boys were on. He saw them standing around and giggling, but paid no attention. Next thing he knew he had been hit in the face with a stone! Damn thing could have taken his eye out! And the dinner ladies apparently 'didn't see a thing'!!! Humph!
Since then, these boys actually have managed to smash a couple of windows, which shows how hard and fast these stones were flying!
The only policy for this is a no-tolerance one. If I see or suspect bullying, I come down on the party like a ton of bricks falling off a freight train. I make bullies lives complicated and miserable.
Unfortunately, I've found that both sides lie to me consistently. The children lie to their parents, the parents lie to each other, and everyone lies to me.
So I just document every incident no matter how small and when I get enough to be on legal footing... I toss them out. Just like you would cut out a cancer to save the rest of the body. One example is usually all I have to make.
Of course a tough policy has it's price. That's how I ended up two death threats to myself and my wife and a bullet in my mailbox earlier this year.
That may be why some of the teachers you have dealt with in the past have been less than effective. They like living and breathing.
Unfortunately Jives I didn't document the incidences!
I know now that I should have done!
Guns aren't a way of life here and so it's not a case of teachers being scared for their lives, but more of them following by example. They seem to find it easier to ignore the bullies rather than deal with them!
My son came home from school a while back with a cut on his face between his eye and his eyebrow. Apparently there is a pathway lined with hundreds of tiny stones, and some boys, for a laugh, put the stones on a low wall and kick them as hard as they can, to try and break some school windows! Because it's fun! Ha ha ha! NOT!!!
Nearby, 2 dinner ladies stand and sell hot tuck at lunchtimes to the kids. They always stand so their backs are towards these boys, because if they don't 'see' them, then they don't have to shout at them (and have the kids swear at them, of course!) My kids have picked up ome pretty foul language from that school too! But that's another story!
Anyway, my son walked along a path that crosses the path these boys were on. He saw them standing around and giggling, but paid no attention. Next thing he knew he had been hit in the face with a stone! Damn thing could have taken his eye out! And the dinner ladies apparently 'didn't see a thing'!!! Humph!
Since then, these boys actually have managed to smash a couple of windows, which shows how hard and fast these stones were flying!
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Jives wrote: There's a good reason for that, Peg. Bullies are sneaky. They don't want to be in trouble themselves, most of them are cowards, so they do things when the teachers aren't looking. Then when the other student blows their lid and attracts the teachers attention, it looks like the victim is the instigator and, of course, the bully acts innocent. "I don't know what his problem is, I didn't do anything!"
Teachers aren't superhuman, we can be fooled too.
The worst part of that is now you have physical evidence on the victim, and only hearsay on the bully.
Well said. This is SO true!!!
Teachers aren't superhuman, we can be fooled too.
The worst part of that is now you have physical evidence on the victim, and only hearsay on the bully.
Well said. This is SO true!!!
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K.Snyder wrote: See they would have had to just shoot me then cause i would have cold cocked someone in the face by the second day.....
Actually come to think of it, Im usually intelligent enough to ignore a loud mouth moron, but if what they had said to me really "hit home" I wouldnt have wasted no time spliting their teeth.
Actually come to think of it, Im usually intelligent enough to ignore a loud mouth moron, but if what they had said to me really "hit home" I wouldnt have wasted no time spliting their teeth.
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One of the kids that WAS calling Michael names was in his class last year (not this year thank God!), the kid got suspended from the bus and school about three times and yet he told the teacher last year that he saw Michael steal something from her desk. Knowing this kid was a trouble maker she believed him over my son who had never done such a thing, except to his little brother and vise versa, in his life. How could she believe him when she's the one that sent the boy to the office so many times that he got suspended? The teacher made Michael's life hell and once I realized the principle and assistant principle wasn't going to do anything I reported her to the board of education and she was REALLY nice to him a few days later to the end of school. She and I don't speak when we see each other at the school. She made it to my **** list and that's where she'll stay! She disrespected me by making his life hell, and that's not something she needed to do.
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My daughter was bulled terribley when her father died. - they would say thing's like i can see your Dad up on the roof and laugh at her . she was so young 5/6. When i complained to the school she was moved class but the teasing still continued in the playgroung so again i complained to the school and she was was given a designated adult to go to for help ..the first time she did the helper told her to go away and stop telling tale's .The head mistress began to see a lot of me and eventully the bulling did die out eventually . A few years later i read in the local paper that the same school had a major bulling problem that the head would'nt admit to but because of the press coverage they had to address it and fast ...it's just a shame so many kid's where damaged before this stupid woman got her act together.
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SnoozeControl wrote: In the fifth grade, I had one of those ridiculous headgear things that are used to push your molars back to make room in your mouth for descending canine teeth. I was only supposed to wear it at night, but I went ahead and wore it to school too so I wouldn't have to wear it as long. I remember getting teased, but I don't remember it really bothering me too much. The ones that made a point of ridiculing me were the dorks of the class anyway, and I remember thinking how I'd eventually get rid of my braces and headgear, but they'd always be idiots. My mom told me that.
Sorry Red, that isn't what you were asking about, is it?
geek :wah: :p
Sorry Red, that isn't what you were asking about, is it?
geek :wah: :p
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One punch in the mouth and they tuck their tail and leave, and even if they dont they will begin to say to themselves that "its not worth the fight" and ultimately end it. Not to mention the fact that the bullies who get hit in the mouth are extremely hesitant in bullying anyone else.
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K.Snyder wrote: One punch in the mouth and they tuck their tail and leave, and even if they dont they will begin to say to themselves that "its not worth the fight" and ultimately end it. Not to mention the fact that the bullies who get hit in the mouth are extremely hesitant in bullying anyone else.
You got into a lot of brawls in high school, didn't you? :yh_wink
I can't disagree...like I said, sometimes diplomacy and "talking things out" just doesn't work. You just have to kick someone's ass.
You got into a lot of brawls in high school, didn't you? :yh_wink
I can't disagree...like I said, sometimes diplomacy and "talking things out" just doesn't work. You just have to kick someone's ass.
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BabyRider wrote: You got into a lot of brawls in high school, didn't you? :yh_wink
Moreover, when I threatened to split their teeth through the back of their head, they sort of backed down and didnt say too much.
Once you do that you earn sort of a reputation and no one messes with you.
But I wasnt going for reputation, I just dont like loud mouth pricks who think they can talk to anyone how they feel in an agressive manner. People deserve more respect than that. And you if you dont show respect< I can show you your face looking like a beaten egg, up to them.
Moreover, when I threatened to split their teeth through the back of their head, they sort of backed down and didnt say too much.
Once you do that you earn sort of a reputation and no one messes with you.
But I wasnt going for reputation, I just dont like loud mouth pricks who think they can talk to anyone how they feel in an agressive manner. People deserve more respect than that. And you if you dont show respect< I can show you your face looking like a beaten egg, up to them.
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pantsonfire321@aol.com wrote: ...it's just a shame so many kid's where damaged before this stupid woman got her act together.
UPDATE:
Today I was chatting to my neighbours. Their granddaughter, Brooke, goes to the same school my kids go to. I thought Brooke had settled in well at the school as she is quite a tough kid and well able to stand up for herself.
Today I found out that she was on her way to school one day, when 3 older boys from this school, ganged up on her, pulled down her knickers and threatened to rape her. At the same time they were all taunting her and calling her names. Apparently she is so scared now that she can't sleep at night! Her solicitor has said she must not return to this school. The 3 boys were arrested and charged, but are all under age!
Apparently Brooke has also been bullied constantly since starting at this school, because she is a plump child. She's 11, for pete's sake, lots of kids are plump at 11!
Brooke went to her (female) head of year and told her what had happened with these boys. This woman being the same useless waste of space who was my daughters head of year! And do you know what this unfeeling b**ch said about a potential child rape???
She said "Well Brooke, these boys think its fun to tease you in the same way that you think its fun to eat too much!!!"
Brooke's grandparents are understandably furious about the whole situation, and also furious because these boys are still at school and getting an education whilst Brooke is denied her education as she is not allowed to return safely to school and not fit to be educated anyway because she is too traumatised by these events!
That blasted head of year is ruining these childrens lives with her sheer bloody-mindedness! :-5 :-5 :-5
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UPDATE:
Today I was chatting to my neighbours. Their granddaughter, Brooke, goes to the same school my kids go to. I thought Brooke had settled in well at the school as she is quite a tough kid and well able to stand up for herself.
Today I found out that she was on her way to school one day, when 3 older boys from this school, ganged up on her, pulled down her knickers and threatened to rape her. At the same time they were all taunting her and calling her names. Apparently she is so scared now that she can't sleep at night! Her solicitor has said she must not return to this school. The 3 boys were arrested and charged, but are all under age!
Apparently Brooke has also been bullied constantly since starting at this school, because she is a plump child. She's 11, for pete's sake, lots of kids are plump at 11!
Brooke went to her (female) head of year and told her what had happened with these boys. This woman being the same useless waste of space who was my daughters head of year! And do you know what this unfeeling b**ch said about a potential child rape???
She said "Well Brooke, these boys think its fun to tease you in the same way that you think its fun to eat too much!!!"
Brooke's grandparents are understandably furious about the whole situation, and also furious because these boys are still at school and getting an education whilst Brooke is denied her education as she is not allowed to return safely to school and not fit to be educated anyway because she is too traumatised by these events!
That blasted head of year is ruining these childrens lives with her sheer bloody-mindedness! :-5 :-5 :-5
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You have GOT to be kidding me! Thats just OUTRAGEOUS!:mad: And WE'RE the ones who get in trouble if we dont send our kids to school???
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Rapunzel wrote: UPDATE:
Today I was chatting to my neighbours. Their granddaughter, Brooke, goes to the same school my kids go to. I thought Brooke had settled in well at the school as she is quite a tough kid and well able to stand up for herself.
Today I found out that she was on her way to school one day, when 3 older boys from this school, ganged up on her, pulled down her knickers and threatened to rape her. At the same time they were all taunting her and calling her names. Apparently she is so scared now that she can't sleep at night! Her solicitor has said she must not return to this school. The 3 boys were arrested and charged, but are all under age!
Apparently Brooke has also been bullied constantly since starting at this school, because she is a plump child. She's 11, for pete's sake, lots of kids are plump at 11!
Brooke went to her (female) head of year and told her what had happened with these boys. This woman being the same useless waste of space who was my daughters head of year! And do you know what this unfeeling b**ch said about a potential child rape???
She said "Well Brooke, these boys think its fun to tease you in the same way that you think its fun to eat too much!!!"
Brooke's grandparents are understandably furious about the whole situation, and also furious because these boys are still at school and getting an education whilst Brooke is denied her education as she is not allowed to return safely to school and not fit to be educated anyway because she is too traumatised by these events!
That blasted head of year is ruining these childrens lives with her sheer bloody-mindedness! :-5 :-5 :-5
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That is so sad that poor child may take a long time to get over her ordeal . When are head Teacher's going to be held accountable for what they allow to happen in school and the sooner they implement a zero policy aross the board UK wide the better .The comment about the poor child eating to much would of been to much for me i would of demanded the person responsible be sacked ..i feel bad just reading what she had to go through ...i hope she get's help xxxx
Today I was chatting to my neighbours. Their granddaughter, Brooke, goes to the same school my kids go to. I thought Brooke had settled in well at the school as she is quite a tough kid and well able to stand up for herself.
Today I found out that she was on her way to school one day, when 3 older boys from this school, ganged up on her, pulled down her knickers and threatened to rape her. At the same time they were all taunting her and calling her names. Apparently she is so scared now that she can't sleep at night! Her solicitor has said she must not return to this school. The 3 boys were arrested and charged, but are all under age!
Apparently Brooke has also been bullied constantly since starting at this school, because she is a plump child. She's 11, for pete's sake, lots of kids are plump at 11!
Brooke went to her (female) head of year and told her what had happened with these boys. This woman being the same useless waste of space who was my daughters head of year! And do you know what this unfeeling b**ch said about a potential child rape???
She said "Well Brooke, these boys think its fun to tease you in the same way that you think its fun to eat too much!!!"
Brooke's grandparents are understandably furious about the whole situation, and also furious because these boys are still at school and getting an education whilst Brooke is denied her education as she is not allowed to return safely to school and not fit to be educated anyway because she is too traumatised by these events!
That blasted head of year is ruining these childrens lives with her sheer bloody-mindedness! :-5 :-5 :-5
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That is so sad that poor child may take a long time to get over her ordeal . When are head Teacher's going to be held accountable for what they allow to happen in school and the sooner they implement a zero policy aross the board UK wide the better .The comment about the poor child eating to much would of been to much for me i would of demanded the person responsible be sacked ..i feel bad just reading what she had to go through ...i hope she get's help xxxx
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Rapunzel wrote: She said "Well Brooke, these boys think its fun to tease you in the same way that you think its fun to eat too much!!!"
Sexual harrassment and assault is not teasing. In the United States you could not only get her fired, you could sue her and take her house.
Sexual harrassment and assault is not teasing. In the United States you could not only get her fired, you could sue her and take her house.
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Jives wrote: Sexual harrassment and assault is not teasing. In the United States you could not only get her fired, you could sue her and take her house.
I'd go after the entire school. I'd be in everyone's face, blow the whole thing wide open, go to the media, whatever I had to do. This is inexcuseable.
I'd go after the entire school. I'd be in everyone's face, blow the whole thing wide open, go to the media, whatever I had to do. This is inexcuseable.
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Bullet's trial was a farce. Can I get an AMEN?????
We won't be punished for our sins, but BY them.