sarasara wrote: Personally I believe that the US should have a policy of supporting Regime change from within the Islamic Republic.
In the light of the dispersal of the programme and the existence of deep bunkers, that is surely the only way to deal with the nuke programme.
I believe that the US should without delay start funding Iranian opposition groups. Every day the US sits on its hands the threat grows. :-3
I suspect that what you are suggesting is already being done covertly, which is the only way that makes sense right now.
US Should Fund Iranian Opposition
US Should Fund Iranian Opposition
That's what they did with the Taliban and look what that has let to. Any opposition group seen to be funded by the US is just not going to get mass support.
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US Should Fund Iranian Opposition
sarasara wrote: The US never funded the Taliban. It was created by the Bhutto regime in Pakistan and funded by them.the mad mullahs
US Should Fund Iranian Opposition
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The US never funded the Taliban. It was created by the Bhutto regime in Pakistan and funded by them.
You've been watching jackanory again haven't you?
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2001/tst110501.htm
From the above Texas straight talk.
U.S. Taxpayers send Billions to our Enemies in Afghanistan
Even before September 11th, most Americans were well aware of the hostility that many Middle Eastern nations have for the U.S. Our experiences with Iran, Libya, Iraq, and now Afghanistan have understandably soured many Americans on the entire region. Indeed, the majority of anti-American sentiment in the post-Cold War era originates in the Middle East. What many Americans don't realize, however, is the extent to which their own foreign aid tax dollars are spent funding our current and future enemies in the region.
We should recognize that American tax dollars helped to create the very Taliban government that now wants to destroy us. In the late 1970s and early 80s, the CIA was very involved in the training and funding of various fundamentalist Islamic groups in Afghanistan, some of which later became today's brutal Taliban government. In fact, the U.S. government admits to giving the groups at least 6 billion dollars in military aid and weaponry, a staggering sum that would be even larger in today's dollars.
Bin Laden himself received training and weapons from the CIA, and that agency's military and financial assistance helped the Afghan rebels build a set of encampments around the city of Khost. Tragically, those same camps became terrorist training facilities for Bin Laden, who uses some of the same soldiers our military once trained as lieutenants in his sickening terrorist network. Our heroic pilots are now busy bombing the same camps we paid to build, all the while threatened by the same Stinger missiles originally supplied by our CIA. Once again, the stark result of our foreign aid, however well-intentioned, was the arming and training of forces that later become our enemy.
Our foolish funding of Afghan terrorists hardly ended in the 1980s, however. Millions of your tax dollars continue to pour into Afghanistan even today. Our government publicly supported the Taliban right up until September 11. Already in 2001 the U.S. has provided $125 million in so-called humanitarian aid to the country, making us the world's single largest donor to Afghanistan. Rest assured the money went straight to the Taliban, and not to the impoverished, starving residents that make up most of the population. Do we really expect a government as intolerant and anti-west as the Taliban to use our foreign aid for humane purposes? If so, we are incredibly naive; if not, we foolishly have been seeking to influence a government that regards America as an enemy.
Incredibly, in May the U.S. announced that we would reward the Taliban with an additional $43 million in aid for its actions in banning the cultivation of poppy used to produce heroin and opium. Taliban rulers had agreed to assist us in our senseless drug war by declaring opium growing "against the will of God." They weren't serious, of course. Although reliable economic data for Afghanistan is nearly impossible to find (there simply is not much of an economy), the reality is that opium is far and away the most profitable industry in the country. The Taliban was hardly prepared to give up virtually its only source of export revenue, any more than the demand for opium was suddenly going to disappear. If anything, Afghanistan's production of opium is growing. Experts estimate it has doubled since 1999; the relatively small country is now believed to provide the raw material for fully 75% of the world's heroin. How tragic that our government was willing to ignore Taliban brutality in its quest to find "victories" in the failed drug war.
Or if you prefer Read your own national security archive
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NS ... /index.htm
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB57/us.html
The US never funded the Taliban. It was created by the Bhutto regime in Pakistan and funded by them.
You've been watching jackanory again haven't you?
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2001/tst110501.htm
From the above Texas straight talk.
U.S. Taxpayers send Billions to our Enemies in Afghanistan
Even before September 11th, most Americans were well aware of the hostility that many Middle Eastern nations have for the U.S. Our experiences with Iran, Libya, Iraq, and now Afghanistan have understandably soured many Americans on the entire region. Indeed, the majority of anti-American sentiment in the post-Cold War era originates in the Middle East. What many Americans don't realize, however, is the extent to which their own foreign aid tax dollars are spent funding our current and future enemies in the region.
We should recognize that American tax dollars helped to create the very Taliban government that now wants to destroy us. In the late 1970s and early 80s, the CIA was very involved in the training and funding of various fundamentalist Islamic groups in Afghanistan, some of which later became today's brutal Taliban government. In fact, the U.S. government admits to giving the groups at least 6 billion dollars in military aid and weaponry, a staggering sum that would be even larger in today's dollars.
Bin Laden himself received training and weapons from the CIA, and that agency's military and financial assistance helped the Afghan rebels build a set of encampments around the city of Khost. Tragically, those same camps became terrorist training facilities for Bin Laden, who uses some of the same soldiers our military once trained as lieutenants in his sickening terrorist network. Our heroic pilots are now busy bombing the same camps we paid to build, all the while threatened by the same Stinger missiles originally supplied by our CIA. Once again, the stark result of our foreign aid, however well-intentioned, was the arming and training of forces that later become our enemy.
Our foolish funding of Afghan terrorists hardly ended in the 1980s, however. Millions of your tax dollars continue to pour into Afghanistan even today. Our government publicly supported the Taliban right up until September 11. Already in 2001 the U.S. has provided $125 million in so-called humanitarian aid to the country, making us the world's single largest donor to Afghanistan. Rest assured the money went straight to the Taliban, and not to the impoverished, starving residents that make up most of the population. Do we really expect a government as intolerant and anti-west as the Taliban to use our foreign aid for humane purposes? If so, we are incredibly naive; if not, we foolishly have been seeking to influence a government that regards America as an enemy.
Incredibly, in May the U.S. announced that we would reward the Taliban with an additional $43 million in aid for its actions in banning the cultivation of poppy used to produce heroin and opium. Taliban rulers had agreed to assist us in our senseless drug war by declaring opium growing "against the will of God." They weren't serious, of course. Although reliable economic data for Afghanistan is nearly impossible to find (there simply is not much of an economy), the reality is that opium is far and away the most profitable industry in the country. The Taliban was hardly prepared to give up virtually its only source of export revenue, any more than the demand for opium was suddenly going to disappear. If anything, Afghanistan's production of opium is growing. Experts estimate it has doubled since 1999; the relatively small country is now believed to provide the raw material for fully 75% of the world's heroin. How tragic that our government was willing to ignore Taliban brutality in its quest to find "victories" in the failed drug war.
Or if you prefer Read your own national security archive
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NS ... /index.htm
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB57/us.html
US Should Fund Iranian Opposition
I hate the Iranians as much as anyone. I'm old enough to remember the Iranian Hostage Crisis. I also remember that at one time they were our friends and the Shah of Iran was our puppet.
That didn't work out so well, did it?
Every time we try to interfere in another country's politics, it seems to come back and slap us upside the head a couple of decades later.
We helped the Afghans against the Russians. Later, we had to invade the country to restore democracy. The list is endless.
I can't say that I'm for isolationism, but sometimes I sure wish it was the Roaring 1920's again. Nothing to worry about in the world but Prohibition.
But of course that didn't work then or in WWII. (or the 90's for that matter.)
Ok, Ummm.....let's take 'em on. INVADE IRAN!(sigh)
That didn't work out so well, did it?
Every time we try to interfere in another country's politics, it seems to come back and slap us upside the head a couple of decades later.
We helped the Afghans against the Russians. Later, we had to invade the country to restore democracy. The list is endless.
I can't say that I'm for isolationism, but sometimes I sure wish it was the Roaring 1920's again. Nothing to worry about in the world but Prohibition.
But of course that didn't work then or in WWII. (or the 90's for that matter.)Ok, Ummm.....let's take 'em on. INVADE IRAN!(sigh)
All the world's a stage and the men and women merely players...Shakespeare
US Should Fund Iranian Opposition
Perhaps we Americans should quit trying to remake the world in our own image?
US Should Fund Iranian Opposition
Hawke wrote: Perhaps we Americans should quit trying to remake the world in our own image?
And now it's time for "EXTREME COUNTRY MAKEOVER!" with your Host, America!
Today America tackles a dusty little 3rd world country racked by famine and ignorance.
America: After we are through with your country, you won't recognize it!
3rd Word Country: Oh! Oh! We're soooo excited!!!! (jumps up and down)
Of course we'll all hate you next year, but right now we love you! Can we get a loan?
America: Sure! After the makeover, you'll qualify as our friends and we'll give you more money than our entire retired population!!! (crowd cheers!)
And now it's time for "EXTREME COUNTRY MAKEOVER!" with your Host, America!
Today America tackles a dusty little 3rd world country racked by famine and ignorance.
America: After we are through with your country, you won't recognize it!
3rd Word Country: Oh! Oh! We're soooo excited!!!! (jumps up and down)
Of course we'll all hate you next year, but right now we love you! Can we get a loan?
America: Sure! After the makeover, you'll qualify as our friends and we'll give you more money than our entire retired population!!! (crowd cheers!)
All the world's a stage and the men and women merely players...Shakespeare
US Should Fund Iranian Opposition
Jives...that's just too funny. *wipes up his spilled drink*