downag's apocalypse

[Ted]

spot:-6

I have never said that I hate downag. In fact I don't but I do feel sorry for him.

Am I somewhat angry? Damn right. When someone has to go to the bottom of the barrel to find a word like "liar" he clearly has a problem. None of us is perfect. However, I don't stoop to name calling. That is indeed childish.

I have never attacked him personally. He claims I have but does not know the difference between a disagreement over doctrine or dogma and a personal attack.

In reference to his comment on "a quote is a quote is a quote" do I really need to comment?

Shalom

Ted:-6

[downag]

Time will vindicate me Ted. You will be UNDONE!

Enjoy your confusion.

d:-5

[spot]

downag wrote: Time will vindicate me Ted. You will be UNDONE!

Enjoy your confusion.We will, I imagine, eventually, get round to praying for you, downag. God knows why.

[Bryn Mawr]

spot wrote: We will, I imagine, eventually, get round to praying for you, downag. God knows why.


That his soul might be brought to enlightement - of how to converse with other people.

His beliefs are as they are, so be it. They don't match mine but that applies to most of humanity - no mere mortal has the last word on the word of God so people will disagree on the meaning of the message.

[Ted]

Bryn Mawr:-6

An excellent post. Well put.

Shalom

Ted:-6

[downag]

OTHER PEOPLE!

DO YOU KNOW, what you are?

WHY YOU ARE HERE?

iN SHOERT SENTENCES YOU CANNOT SAY!

AS the title of the BLOG says, it is an Apocholypse.

NOT for YOU!

FOR ME!

DO I PERFORM ACCODINGLY?

Try and stop me.

ALL OF YOU JUST HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT WHAT IS COMING!

but I do!

YEAH, I'm crasy!

Watch me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spot]

Spot passes downag a crate to stand on, and goes looking for enough faggots to build a large fire with.

[telaquapacky]

downag wrote: OTHER PEOPLE!

DO YOU KNOW, what you are?

WHY YOU ARE HERE?

iN SHOERT SENTENCES YOU CANNOT SAY!

AS the title of the BLOG says, it is an Apocholypse.

NOT for YOU!

FOR ME!

DO I PERFORM ACCODINGLY?

Try and stop me.

ALL OF YOU JUST HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT WHAT IS COMING!

but I do!

YEAH, I'm crasy!

Watch me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the beginning of sorrows.

Who am I? I am only a voice crying out in the wilderness.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee.

These times they are a-changin'

Something is happening, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?:wah:

Babee we're all krazee now.

[downag]

sixyearsleft wrote: We know nothing..

it's ok to believe what you want,

the Book of Genisis is a copy of the Sumerian Cuneiform writings,

Eziekiel went up into the sky in a flying craft,

Magnetic Fields are manipulating our minds and screwing with our alpha rythms

the illuminati controll the world,

Free energy was created by Nikola Tesla in the 30's, we are such fools we know nothing.


HAARP? Yup, you got it.

A Tesla COIL? Yup, you got it. RENSE.com has a story about the Japanese having control of some small miracle machine that mimics that. Draws energy right out of the air (cosmic waves?).

illuminati? Sons of darkness!

Those flying craft are coming back to appear soon.

d:-5

[Bronwen]

sixyearsleft wrote: I also believe that Nikola Tesla had something to do with the FooFighters,

thats just a personal opinion.Crash Test Dummies too. Also They Might Be Giants.

[spot]

sixyearsleft wrote: Explain yourself???????????I suspect we were all rather baffled by your reference to FooFighters and hoping that you'd go into more detail.

Bronwen mis-spoke herself, she meant Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark and Joy Electric. Go on, call my bluff if you like, but do tell us about the FooFighter connection first.

[spot]

sixyearsleft wrote: Cant be bothered, look it up and learn somethingWe have a rule, hammered out after several fruitless fights - nobody says go and seek a negative. It's a convention. To go and seek out a positive and bring it back, that's praiseworthy. Me, I have no idea whether it's out there or not. I thought you'd like a hint about good manners, that's all.

[spot]

sixyearsleft wrote: No that's ok Spot thanks, really, i dont need your advice i'm sorry i've made that very clear, its you who is negative, i dont understand you, you speak in riddles,

i trust my senses, you make my alarm bells ring, i'm sorry, buts that's the way it is,

Up our lives today, thats what i say..It seems difficult, at first glance, to go onto Google to discover the thoughts of Sixyearsleft. You'll remember that you said "I also believe that Nikola Tesla had something to do with the FooFighters, thats just a personal opinion" - we're enquiring about your claimed personal opinion and Google is not the right place to enquire.

[spot]

sixyearsleft wrote: So then you know what Foofighters are?

you know i dont mean the band yes?

you are correct there is no Google info about this, no proof either, i just have the feeling that Tesla had something to do with them.... Little old me.And on what do you base this feeling, sixyearsleft? What background knowledge gives you grounds to believe your feeling is not altogether without foundation? You'll bear in mind that Tesla was in his eighties when World War II broke out.

For those not following the vocabulary...

foo fighter, n.

orig. U.S. Mil. (now hist.).

Any of various unidentified lights encountered by airborne forces during the Second World War (1939-45), interpreted variously as enemy weapons, natural phenomena, or alien spacecraft.

1945 N.Y. Times 2 Jan. 1/6 There are three kinds of these lights we call ‘foofighters’{em}one is red balls of fire which appear off our wing tips and fly along with us; the second is a vertical row of three balls of fire which fly in front of us, and the third is a group of about fifteen lights which appear off in the distance..and flicker on and off. 1969 A. COPPEL Little Time for Laughter II. 200 He could hear the wild chatter on the radio. The pilots were saying something about a ‘foo fighter’ and a ‘jet’. 1988 Yankee June 102/1 Both Allied and Axis pilots reported being paced by..‘foo fighters’. 2002 R. M. DOLAN UFOs & National Security State i. 6 The last significant foo fighter sighting occurred in the Pacific, and nearly brought down an American plane.

[spot]

sixyearsleft wrote: Tesla is dead now but look at your technology and look at his influence, we are still in the mist of Nokola Tesla, Haarp, Star Wars, Brain scans, Wireless, ect,And this has what to do with Foo fighters over the Rhineland fighting for the master Race?

For someone who already knows that "there is no Google info about this, no proof either, i just have the feeling"... - don't you feel it a little unkind to respond to "do tell us about the FooFighter connection" with "Cant be bothered, look it up and learn something"? This is why we don't send someone out to chase down evidence that he's asked for - what I called finding a negative. Claiming something suggests you have existing knowledge, and that it's far easier in consequence for you to produce evidence if asked. It helps keep people honest. The cop-out "Cant be bothered, look it up and learn something", by contrast, cuts very little ice.

[spot]

sixyearsleft wrote: Go listen to some good music and chill out:wah: just like i am Spot, all the best mate, maybe soon we'll connect :-6Six, I have personally known guide dogs for the blind who showed a broader grasp of reality than you possess. You're one of the few people that I'd recommend avoided books in future.

[spot]

sixyearsleft wrote: I really dont know what to say...

please explain Spot.I presume that you derived all that earlier drivel from books. I hoped the world might be spared more of it:

"We know nothing.. it's ok to believe what you want, the Book of Genisis is a copy of the Sumerian Cuneiform writings, Eziekiel went up into the sky in a flying craft, Magnetic Fields are manipulating our minds and screwing with our alpha rythms the illuminati controll the world, Free energy was created by Nikola Tesla in the 30's, we are such fools we know nothing, Up our lives today."You don't sober up now and then and suddenly realize what all that looks like, do you?

[spot]

sixyearsleft wrote: First you must learn and understand things before you make any judgments Spot,

it should have been: you know nothing... i bet you believe Oswald killed the president:wah:You know, I'm not bad at untangling sentences, but I simply can't work out what your "it" refers to.

"First you must learn and understand" suggests that at least I need to remember. The main flag I have up against your name whenever I see it is "i'm a very determind man who travels the country, you may feel safe enough to make remarks like that from where you are but to me thats real fighting talk," - I get so few threats of physical assault that they tend to stick in my mind.

[spot]

sixyearsleft wrote: Ah! now where getting somewhere, it was a discraceful set of remarks and i must apologise for it, i knew you had animosity for me, couldn't work it out, but now i remember, i understand why you feel this way , its my fault, sorry...No, let's not confuse issues. First you must learn and understand. The back-issues are informative but the current sequence of exchanges was triggered by your peremptory tone in addressing Bronwen with "Explain yourself???????????" followed by your inane refusal to make a joint effort with "Cant be bothered, look it up and learn something".

Have I finished... just about, I think. Except that to start a thought with "Tesla is dead now" is otiose when you consider that this year is the 150th anniversary of his birth. Well duh, I'm glad you mentioned it, I was going to bake him a cake.

[spot]

sixyearsleft wrote: you know me too well...What a distressing notion that would be. It's difficult finding any common ground for discussion, given your preference for conspiracy theories and churchburning. Everything I've seen you write on ForumGarden I would consider evidence of cognitive disability in an otherwise average twelve year old. Never mind, it's a large enough board and I assume I can be polite when I try hard.

[buttercup]

spot wrote: What a distressing notion that would be. It's difficult finding any common ground for discussion, given your preference for conspiracy theories and churchburning. Everything I've seen you write on ForumGarden I would consider evidence of cognitive disability in an otherwise average twelve year old. Never mind, it's a large enough board and I assume I can be polite when I try hard.


oh my goodness spot you obviously have never had a joint, calm down sweetie

[spot]

buttercup wrote: oh my goodness spot you obviously have never had a joint, calm down sweetie :DI do apologise buttercup, I had no idea anyone was within earshot. I'm trying to recall when I last touched a joint. Not in this millenium, certainly. I shall, however, calm myself. Is my face smudged?

[buttercup]

spot wrote: I do apologise buttercup, I had no idea anyone was within earshot. I'm trying to recall when I last touched a joint. Not in this millenium, certainly. I shall, however, calm myself. Is my face smudged?


not at all spot & six that last comment of yours was just as bad

oh my god ive gone all motherly, both of you go to your room :-4

[Ted]

Buttercup:-6

ROTFL

Shalom

Ted:-6

[Bronwen]

spot wrote: I suspect we were all rather baffled by your reference to FooFighters and hoping that you'd go into more detail.

Bronwen mis-spoke herself, she meant Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark Dam, Sam, I had forgotten all about OMITD. Now that group had a sound all their own! I'm gonna go look for a 'Greatest Hits' album later today.

For anyone who doesn't already know, Crash Test Dummies and They Might Be Giants were rock groups that were more or less contemporary in their prime with Foo Fighters. I no longer follow rock music that closely, so I'm not sure which of those groups, if any, are still performing.

I do know that Death Cab for Cutie was named after a song by the Bonzo Dog Band, written by Neil Innes of Monty Python fame, and I know of at least three groups who named themselves after Captain Beefheart songs: Ant Man Bee, Ella Guru, and Dali's Car. Maybe someone knows of others.

Ennyhoo, the term 'Foo Fighter' comes from (1) an approximate phonetic pronunciation of the French word for fire (feu), and from the long-defunct 'Smoky Stover' comic strip, which involved firemen and catch-phrases like 'Where there's foo there's fire' and 'Notary Sojac' (an approximation of 'Merry Christmas' in Gaelic).

I'm still not sure what any of this has to do with Tesla.

[telaquapacky]

So then- the Nazca Lines in Peru. Was that what they did to guide spaceships before they had electricity?

[downag]

Bronwen wrote: Dam, Sam, I had forgotten all about OMITD. Now that group had a sound all their own! I'm gonna go look for a 'Greatest Hits' album later today.

For anyone who doesn't already know, Crash Test Dummies and They Might Be Giants were rock groups that were more or less contemporary in their prime with Foo Fighters. I no longer follow rock music that closely, so I'm not sure which of those groups, if any, are still performing.

I do know that Death Cab for Cutie was named after a song by the Bonzo Dog Band, written by Neil Innes of Monty Python fame, and I know of at least three groups who named themselves after Captain Beefheart songs: Ant Man Bee, Ella Guru, and Dali's Car. Maybe someone knows of others.

Ennyhoo, the term 'Foo Fighter' comes from (1) an approximate phonetic pronunciation of the French word for fire (feu), and from the long-defunct 'Smoky Stover' comic strip, which involved firemen and catch-phrases like 'Where there's foo there's fire' and 'Notary Sojac' (an approximation of 'Merry Christmas' in Gaelic).

I'm still not sure what any of this has to do with Tesla.


I am really quite amazed that none of you knows the origin of the term FOO FIGHTER.

During WW2 pilots for both the Germans and the Allies reported sighting what they affectionately termed FOO-FIGHTERS> UFOs of unknown origin. These craft were termed "fighters" because of their ability to change direction (manueverability). The Foo Fighters often shadowed a conventional aircraft and then would disappear at great speed.

Tesla invented a means to coduct electricity over great distances without the use of a physical means (wires). He also invented a "coil" which had miraculour properties (perhaps anti-gravity).

His insight into physics may also have been put to use in the Philadelphia Experiment in which a U>S>ship the "Eldridge" (Is this right or was it Rutlidge?) was caused to "disappear" while anchored in the Navy Yard at Philadelphia, with amazing consequences for some of the crew. The governments first trys at "stealth" technology.

[spot]

downag wrote: I am really quite amazed that none of you knows the origin of the term FOO FIGHTER.Downag, I showed a perfectly respectable definition of "foo fighter" in http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showp ... stcount=71 which traces the use of the word back to 1945, but it gives no hint of the origin of the term, merely a description of its use. If you feel you can shed light on its origin then of course we'd be very interested to hear it. Why "FOO"?

downag wrote: Tesla invented a means to coduct electricity over great distances without the use of a physical means (wires). He also invented a "coil" which had miraculour properties (perhaps anti-gravity).

His insight into physics may also have been put to use in the Philadelphia Experiment in which a U>S>ship the "Eldridge" (Is this right or was it Rutlidge?) was caused to "disappear" while anchored in the Navy Yard at Philadelphia, with amazing consequences for some of the crew. The governments first trys at "stealth" technology.Downag, do you not recognise at least a need to scatter "possibly" or "asserted" into these statements? "Nearly every assertion regarding the Philadelphia Experiment has been challenged as unfounded, highly speculative or as a hoax."

I have a machine on my desk which detects the transmission of electricity over great distances without the use of a physical means - it's called a radio.

Maybe you'd better clarify this "perhaps anti-gravity" coil too, while you're at it. You'd think if such things existed the Space program might be using it.

[spot]

SnoozeControl wrote: I believe Bronwen already posted something about foo being a mispronunciation of a French word meaning "fire."

I'm too lazy to read back though. :)But I understand neither "feu" nor Smoky Stover's "foo" as having any association with these lights in the sky. Where's the link? I'd have thought the french "fou" pronounced "foo" meaning mad was more appropriate, given that they appeared so jinky and manoeverable to the allied pilots who reported them. A firm origin would be welcome. Even without the "foo" bit, I can see no reason at all why the "fighter" part of the name existed. Both halves are a mystery to me.

[downag]

Here's something I found @ www.rense.com;

>In the years to follow, during the war, allied pilots would begin to report sightings of unidentified flying objects "tailing" their aircraft. Soon these things were dubbed "Foo Fighters," An animated character at the time named Smokey Stover used to say "Where there's foo there's fire," so someone nicknamed the craft Foo Fighters. Sightings were varied. Some sightings were lights. Others were silver discs.



The sightings of these UFO's during war time, as one might imagine caused quite a stir. The Army Air Force put a lid on their discussion by pilots and the OSS investigated all sightings, as it was thought at the time that the "Foo Figfhters" could be a new weapon by the Axis Powers. Jacobs, UFO Controversy, p. 33



Although these UFO's were seen throughout the war, the "perception" of what they were was controlled by the military, as personnel and eye witnesses were ordered not to discuss these sightings for fear they could be a "superior technology" or "weapon" of the enemy. In fact there wasn't any mention of these sightings in the media until 1944. Later it was learned that Japanese and German pilots had been seeing the same things during the war, and speculated that they were the product of "allied technology." <

Typically American, isn't it? (the reason for the name, let a non-existent entity name something)

d:-5

[spot]

downag wrote: Typically American, isn't it? (the reason for the name, let a non-existent entity name something)I'm not sure yet - I still haven't grasped the use of "so" in "used to say "Where there's foo there's fire," so someone nicknamed the craft Foo Fighters". Why "so"? Where's the linkage?

[spot]

SnoozeControl wrote: What's Saint Elmo's fire? Would that be applicable here?Saint Elmo is traditionally the patron saint of lovers. Handling his statue was for centuries the only known remedy for the clap (or "Saint Elmo's fire" as it was known in those days), until the mercury treatment came along around 1860.