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good evening everyone, i have been away all these hours and just returned to read wonderful messages of support.(i think my pm box is overextended) ..and i thank each person wholeheartedly. :-4 so since the troll APPEARS to be gone, i have a tiny suggestion...it's the weekend, just say anything you feel like right here! how was your day? what are you doing this weekend? i would like to see the threads related to the troll drop...and see some fun reign! have a delightful weekend everyone! :-6
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The :-6 is back in the Forum Garden,
Wlcome back Lady Cop,:yh_clap
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Wlcome back Lady Cop,:yh_clap
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i would like to see the threads related to the troll drop...and see some fun reign! have a delightful weekend everyone! :-6
What is a "troll drop" please?
What is a "troll drop" please?
If you're not good for your word, what good are you? :yh_think :yh_flag Live & make a Difference!
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There she is!!! And where, may I ask, were you when we were all taking out the garbage??? :yh_rotfl I know, I know...on the streets taking out your own garbage!
Yay! The weekend is here, thank God...I will be joining my sweetie at the clubhouse after he's done at work, hanging out, shooting pool. Then we'll sleep late tomorrow, go pick up his kids and hang with them for the rest of the weekend and go to dinner Sunday night. (He'll be working Monday, so I'll be alone for Valentine's Day... :yh_cry )
How 'bout you? Any fun plans??
Yay! The weekend is here, thank God...I will be joining my sweetie at the clubhouse after he's done at work, hanging out, shooting pool. Then we'll sleep late tomorrow, go pick up his kids and hang with them for the rest of the weekend and go to dinner Sunday night. (He'll be working Monday, so I'll be alone for Valentine's Day... :yh_cry )
How 'bout you? Any fun plans??
[FONT=Arial Black]I hope you cherish this sweet way of life, and I hope you know that it comes with a price.
~Darrel Worley~
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Bullet's trial was a farce. Can I get an AMEN?????
We won't be punished for our sins, but BY them.
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Bullet's trial was a farce. Can I get an AMEN?????
We won't be punished for our sins, but BY them.
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Saintsman wrote: i would like to see the threads related to the troll drop...and see some fun reign! have a delightful weekend everyone! :-6
What is a "troll drop" please?
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Tombstone wrote: Want a fish taco?!
http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3370
i really want to know how these turned out Tombstone! i know you're a good cook, so let's have a sample!



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i really want to know how these turned out Tombstone! i know you're a good cook, so let's have a sample!
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Godiva Girl wrote: DON'T YOU GET IT? NO ONE HERE LIKES YOU> YOU HAVE ALOT OF NERVE EVEN POSTING ON THIS THREAD! 
I think that speaking for everyone is a little presumptuous of you godiva girl. There may well be many here who do not like saintsman (and/or his opinions) but to take it upon yourself to speak for every member is somewhat overbearing. That is just my opinion and it doesn't mean I don't like you.

I think that speaking for everyone is a little presumptuous of you godiva girl. There may well be many here who do not like saintsman (and/or his opinions) but to take it upon yourself to speak for every member is somewhat overbearing. That is just my opinion and it doesn't mean I don't like you.

"A candle loses nothing of its light by lighting another candle." -James Keller
Say what you mean but don't say it mean. :yh_peace
Say what you mean but don't say it mean. :yh_peace
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Godiva Girl wrote: DON'T YOU GET IT? NO ONE HERE LIKES YOU> YOU HAVE ALOT OF NERVE EVEN POSTING ON THIS THREAD! 
In an attempt to peacefully express an intersting point my sixteen year old daughter mentioned, she said:
"Dad, in that lady's statement, she used an infinitive by saying "no one likes you." Doesn't that mean that you don't like yourself since you are one of the people on the thread?"
I think I have the makings of a future lawyer, aye! And of course, my bright daughter knows very well that I do, indeed, like myself very much! So the infinitive cannot possibly hold true. It is a statement of emotion and that is okay, just not applying it as an infinitive to all is kind of a good idea.
You can't love anyone else until you love yourself first! You can't take care of another until you can take care of yourself.
Every now and then when my son says "I love you Dad" I respond by saying, "that's ironic, I love me too!" That would be humor now and then as he knows how deeply I truly love him as I do all my twenty-seven children.

In an attempt to peacefully express an intersting point my sixteen year old daughter mentioned, she said:
"Dad, in that lady's statement, she used an infinitive by saying "no one likes you." Doesn't that mean that you don't like yourself since you are one of the people on the thread?"
I think I have the makings of a future lawyer, aye! And of course, my bright daughter knows very well that I do, indeed, like myself very much! So the infinitive cannot possibly hold true. It is a statement of emotion and that is okay, just not applying it as an infinitive to all is kind of a good idea.
You can't love anyone else until you love yourself first! You can't take care of another until you can take care of yourself.
Every now and then when my son says "I love you Dad" I respond by saying, "that's ironic, I love me too!" That would be humor now and then as he knows how deeply I truly love him as I do all my twenty-seven children.
If you're not good for your word, what good are you? :yh_think :yh_flag Live & make a Difference!
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*breaking out my hip-waders---the BS is gettin' DEEP in here!!!*
Even if it wasn't really obvious how much you like yourself, we'd know anyway, because you keep reminding us!
Pardon me while I go grab the Pepto...feelin' kinda queasy.
Even if it wasn't really obvious how much you like yourself, we'd know anyway, because you keep reminding us!
Pardon me while I go grab the Pepto...feelin' kinda queasy.
[FONT=Arial Black]I hope you cherish this sweet way of life, and I hope you know that it comes with a price.
~Darrel Worley~
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Bullet's trial was a farce. Can I get an AMEN?????
We won't be punished for our sins, but BY them.
~Darrel Worley~
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Bullet's trial was a farce. Can I get an AMEN?????
We won't be punished for our sins, but BY them.
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. the prospective law student (and english teacher as well, it seems) (DON'T SPLIT THOSE INFINITIVES PEOPLE OR I WILL DELETE YOU!)says he has 27 children. i am impressed and hope they are all happy and healthy. 

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Hey, LC, I do believe the FG has it's resident braggart's position filled! :yh_eyebro
Um, 27? It was allowed to reproduce??? :yh_ooooo :yh_doh
Um, 27? It was allowed to reproduce??? :yh_ooooo :yh_doh
[FONT=Arial Black]I hope you cherish this sweet way of life, and I hope you know that it comes with a price.
~Darrel Worley~
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Bullet's trial was a farce. Can I get an AMEN?????
We won't be punished for our sins, but BY them.
~Darrel Worley~
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Bullet's trial was a farce. Can I get an AMEN?????
We won't be punished for our sins, but BY them.
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27 children! You have GOT to be kidding
What are you a polygamist? I'll bet if the offspring are like the papa, there's no peace to be found :rolleyes:
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Saintsman wrote: Ah, no longer prospective. One should not assume. It is a basic fundamental concept for any legitimate law degree graduate.
ASSume what? you are out of your league and won't have my attention again. if anyone is interested, see my response in 'saintsman has spoken' thread. goodnight all! xoxoxox
ASSume what? you are out of your league and won't have my attention again. if anyone is interested, see my response in 'saintsman has spoken' thread. goodnight all! xoxoxox
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Saintsman wrote: i would like to see the threads related to the troll drop...and see some fun reign! have a delightful weekend everyone! :-6
What is a "troll drop" please?
A "troll drop" is when you get your **** together and start acting like a man. Until then you are a jerk. You have no idea of the education that you are dealing with, sonny.
You are so self=centered that you don't have a clue. If you don't want to sit up and fly right then you had better be prepared to be jettisoned. We're nice people and if you don't want to be a nice person then you will suffer the consequences of your action,
Tell the nice lady cop that you are sorry and she might forgive you. Continue being a jerk and she doesn't have to do anything. You'll be sitting alone in your space playing with yourself.
What is a "troll drop" please?
A "troll drop" is when you get your **** together and start acting like a man. Until then you are a jerk. You have no idea of the education that you are dealing with, sonny.
You are so self=centered that you don't have a clue. If you don't want to sit up and fly right then you had better be prepared to be jettisoned. We're nice people and if you don't want to be a nice person then you will suffer the consequences of your action,
Tell the nice lady cop that you are sorry and she might forgive you. Continue being a jerk and she doesn't have to do anything. You'll be sitting alone in your space playing with yourself.
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kensloft wrote: A "troll drop" is when you get your **** together and start acting like a man. Until then you are a jerk. You have no idea of the education that you are dealing with, sonny.
You are so self=centered that you don't have a clue. If you don't want to sit up and fly right then you had better be prepared to be jettisoned. We're nice people and if you don't want to be a nice person then you will suffer the consequences of your action,
Tell the nice lady cop that you are sorry and she might forgive you. Continue being a jerk and she doesn't have to do anything. You'll be sitting alone in your space playing with yourself.
hey there, i thank you, but at this point i would just pepper-spray him, tase him and drop him. he's a jerkwad of the first order. it's best if he simply plays with himself. thanks for your support!! i really want to see this place get back to where it was before today.
You are so self=centered that you don't have a clue. If you don't want to sit up and fly right then you had better be prepared to be jettisoned. We're nice people and if you don't want to be a nice person then you will suffer the consequences of your action,
Tell the nice lady cop that you are sorry and she might forgive you. Continue being a jerk and she doesn't have to do anything. You'll be sitting alone in your space playing with yourself.
hey there, i thank you, but at this point i would just pepper-spray him, tase him and drop him. he's a jerkwad of the first order. it's best if he simply plays with himself. thanks for your support!! i really want to see this place get back to where it was before today.
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lady cop wrote: ASSume what? you are out of your league and won't have my attention again. if anyone is interested, see my response in 'saintsman has spoken' thread. goodnight all! xoxoxox
G'nite
G'nite
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Well, well, well...
One of the attributes of a troll is LYING! As well as intentionally inciting anger.
The inciting part is more than obvious but how many people have caught the lies?
It is said by our troll that it has 27 children. My! And the 28th on the way it says.
It also said:
“Oh yeah, if I didn't mention it yet, I am a father of five children.â€
Saintsman post#21 Re: Religion, Children and Whipping tools?
Now I will take into consideration that it said:
“even after the day he punched me in the face for making him turn off cartoons on T.V. (The little ****). I am not a Saint. My resolution was to tell my brother, his father, and let the chips fall where they may.â€
Saintsman post#23 Re: Religion, Children and Whipping tools?
so it is possible that it considers other people's children to be it's own...but certainly seems to be trying to twist this into making itself seem very fertile and "manly".
My take on it is:
We have a LYING TROLL in our garden. If he crawls under a rock we might leave him be. If he disrupts the growth of the garden. Uh, buh bye you lying little troll.
How much do you like me now, ya freak.? :yh_battin
BTW you are only off my ignore list because, as a mod, I get notified of all your posts anyway. Don't flatter yourself.
One of the attributes of a troll is LYING! As well as intentionally inciting anger.
The inciting part is more than obvious but how many people have caught the lies?
It is said by our troll that it has 27 children. My! And the 28th on the way it says.
It also said:
“Oh yeah, if I didn't mention it yet, I am a father of five children.â€
Saintsman post#21 Re: Religion, Children and Whipping tools?
Now I will take into consideration that it said:
“even after the day he punched me in the face for making him turn off cartoons on T.V. (The little ****). I am not a Saint. My resolution was to tell my brother, his father, and let the chips fall where they may.â€
Saintsman post#23 Re: Religion, Children and Whipping tools?
so it is possible that it considers other people's children to be it's own...but certainly seems to be trying to twist this into making itself seem very fertile and "manly".
My take on it is:
We have a LYING TROLL in our garden. If he crawls under a rock we might leave him be. If he disrupts the growth of the garden. Uh, buh bye you lying little troll.
How much do you like me now, ya freak.? :yh_battin
BTW you are only off my ignore list because, as a mod, I get notified of all your posts anyway. Don't flatter yourself.
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[QUOTE=lady cop]you know, at the risk of being perceived a braggart, which i hope i am not, i have a law degree. Red Flag.
Well, well. Lookie I found. Proof ... or shall I say "a plethora of evidence?" The above statement is a straight-out lie.
A lie is when a person says they are a "Cop" and really are not. There is a difference between an oath taking full-time cop and a "deputy". Just like there is a differnce between a deputy and a "volunteer deputy". Hmmmmm!
Get this,
"i have a law deree" ... but am a deputy who wasted somewhere around $130,000.00 to $150,000.00 American dollars, if not more, on a seven year education to receive an accredited LSAC, state barred law degree, but simply choose to be a deputy making anywhere from 75 to 90% LESS than an attorney practicing law .... and openly admit it to the world, aye, while every now and then driving around in a police car as my job as a deputy. LOL.
Okay, moderator LC, you are a genius!
You see, on a public forum that promotes different ideals, or anywhere for that matter ... I have no need or desire to totally fabricate stories to make me feel better about myself. That is being caught stagnant in an unevolved place of deception and will not do your soul any good, but that is only my honest opinion.
See you in court as an attorney, deputy, aye!
Well, well. Lookie I found. Proof ... or shall I say "a plethora of evidence?" The above statement is a straight-out lie.
A lie is when a person says they are a "Cop" and really are not. There is a difference between an oath taking full-time cop and a "deputy". Just like there is a differnce between a deputy and a "volunteer deputy". Hmmmmm!
Get this,
"i have a law deree" ... but am a deputy who wasted somewhere around $130,000.00 to $150,000.00 American dollars, if not more, on a seven year education to receive an accredited LSAC, state barred law degree, but simply choose to be a deputy making anywhere from 75 to 90% LESS than an attorney practicing law .... and openly admit it to the world, aye, while every now and then driving around in a police car as my job as a deputy. LOL.
Okay, moderator LC, you are a genius!
You see, on a public forum that promotes different ideals, or anywhere for that matter ... I have no need or desire to totally fabricate stories to make me feel better about myself. That is being caught stagnant in an unevolved place of deception and will not do your soul any good, but that is only my honest opinion.
See you in court as an attorney, deputy, aye!
If you're not good for your word, what good are you? :yh_think :yh_flag Live & make a Difference!
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This guy is just trying to convince us that shite doesnt stink......well I've got news for him.
As a DEGREED MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, I say if it looks like shite, smells like shite, then the general consensus is......IT IS SHITE!
And this guys full of it!
As a DEGREED MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, I say if it looks like shite, smells like shite, then the general consensus is......IT IS SHITE!
And this guys full of it!
~Quoth the Raven, Nevermore!~
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The moment you have all been waiting for. It’s the truth, the whole
truth and nothing, but the truth from “Saintsman!â€
All of you who have responded to my new membership in the FG have been
part of my university assigned law lab-project over the past 5 days!
I am currently sitting in the university library finalizing my many,
many printed FG notes from the posts I got through those of you over
the past couple of days so I can begin my essay. Are you a bit curious? Here is the real story!
Indeed, I am a law student and one week ago, I was one of 28 students
assigned a project by our social behaviors & psychology law professor
who has been engaging in this lab-project for five years now. The
assignment and mission was as follows per the syllabi:
Task:
1.) To seek, enroll and investigate a public forum to determine if
you are capable of engaging in intelligent discourse among the members
you interact with. The determination of intelligent discourse will be
graded on conversations and debates that are void of irrational
bantering, dead dogmas, useless expressions of demoralization and ill-
tempered emotional eruptions. (These behaviors are shunned in our
courts and not protocol.)
2.) To experience the “general public’s†ability in rapport,
rationalization, articulation, linguistic ability, maturity and
ability to receive, process, deliberate verbal expressions as
compared to the behavior, demeanor and protocol expected by future
attorneys in a courtroom. (These respondents will represent a general
foundation for the type of character making up your future witnesses
and juries, for better or worse.)
Rules:
The student entering the public forum must continually pose
intelligent questions and responses relevant to the topic and
respondents questions. This will be determined on the basis of the
conversations and debates you print from the web-site discourse and
display on the overhead projector during your oral presentation. The
student has only three days of university sponsored computer lab hours
(no more than eight sitting hours in one period) to conduct, complete
and finalize the discourse.
Objective:
In seeking to engage in a deliberate, rational and productive
discourse in pursuit of knowledge, understanding and truth, the
student must bring up at least one of three controversial subjects in
the forum.
1.) Religion
2.) Politics
3.) Sexual behavior.
Through the duration of the discourse, the student is allowed to
attempt to emotionally debase or incite negative responses by the
respondents of senseless rhetoric providing the student remains civil,
non-abusive and in-control of intelligent rapport throughout. This
will determined, again, by the overhead conversations you display
during your oral presentation of the actual posts, threads or IM’s.
If any student is banned prior to the completion of the discourse,
that will be evidence that a ruling body of the forum determined the
student’s behavior below standard unless the student can provide
physical proof by printing out actual posts and discourse showing
blatant and unjust action on the part of a moderator, web-advisor or
governing partisan of the forum. I would advise students not be
banned for the purpose of your overall evaluation during this lab.
All material must be researched, compiled, analyzed and put into
syllabi required essay form by Tuesday, February 15th, 2005.
Any and all alterations of this prescribed format must be approved by
this professor prior to any action on the student’s part. Questions pertaining to this project are acceptable if posted to my university e-mail address only.
There you have it! Yes, I guess you were guinea pigs, but it was all for the pursuit of education!
For any of you who are interested in my conclusions, I welcome you to read on.
First, my professor was ABSOLUTELY correct when he said it would probably be very easy to incite and draw an unknown respondent into a state of emotional disarray and illogical thought patterns. The more one is able to debase and rock the boat by getting their addressee to act in unacceptable behaviors, the better for that attorney’s foundation of sensible reasoning and controlled behavior.
Notice what my posts were: 1.) “Religion, Children and Whipping Toolsâ€
Actually, I thought I had a good chance of proving my professor wrong as that thread and its posts were quite good and I did not incite a lot of craziness on behalf of the respondents and I did maintain intelligent questions are responses through out.
So, I moved onto to another attempt with a post that would hopefully stir up a bit more emotion, but indeed, be founded on logic! Yes, politics and that of censorship. Ah, my next thread to see if I could appease my professor with the “common folk†who appear in our nation’s courtrooms was titled, “Censorshit … I mean ‘ship’!†The pun was clever I thought. Well, that did it! I got the reaction I was aiming for and not only that, all of the areas of my “character reaction sheet†were soon filled in with all the ugly responses that good ole prof. said would come thanks to those of you who responded.
My conclusion at this point only applies to you FG ppl. who participated with responses.
1. Bill Sikes: You did prove my prof. wrong and represented yourself and your country in an inspiring and intelligent debate in my “religion†thread with rational and well supported debate. Kuddos to you if you want them.
2. Jives: You should be proud too, but you made it clear that you
are an educator and your demeanor represented exactly that of
an educated respondent.
3. For the Canadian responders: Koan (moderator)& Kensloft …
very disappointing. Kensloft, you threatened me in your post!?
Koan, it started off good, but went down hill fast into a pit of
insults and rhetoric that has no place in intelligent debate.
Minks … You represented Canada most beautifully and I truly
appreciate your support (you know what I mean) even though you
were unaware that I was on a mission. You scored highly!
4. For us Americans, I have mixed feelings. There was good, but then we should be ashamed or at least I am! One of the posters said in a thread that American’s know they rule the world and act like it … pompus, arrogant and I will add irrational.
It was quite easy for me to lure Anastrophe into debate, but I conclude that most all your arguments were built one opinion without support before you began the ill criticism and negative demeanor toward me.
Godiva Girl: started off very intelligent and well in the relgion and spanking topic, but went deep south at the end with needless insults and so on.
Babyrider … well, you already know how I have to present your demeanor as one of the “common folkâ€. My goodness, just go over your responses to me and feel the hate, anger and pain I was able to stir up in you. One person should not be capable of inciting such behaviors from another when in a public debate or forum.
Abbey, both good and bad.
Enigma: Bravo to YOU!
Lon: Bravo to YOU!
A Karenia: Bravo to YOU!
Tmbsgrl:
Carla: What the heck was that all about?
Anyhow, I could go on, but I won’t
Onto my biggest challenge. Capt. Buzzard! As the day was nearing an end and I had spent almost 7 hours in the library computer lab, I was unable to entice Capt. Buzzard to join the rhetoric and BS. I was unable to get him to break. His fortitude was impressive, but I continued on and … although I admire your stamina, indeed, at the end of the day Capt. Buzzard did fall in to the trap, at first in a very neutral way, which is commendable, but the last comment posted was one of an ill and emotional statement concerning sunshine and goodness in my life. I had succeeded! I drew him and he took a side! And he made a polite, but still needless emotional comment. Whew, you almost got me.
Now, for all of you who may have been reading all along, but never did join it, I commend you. For those who did join in, but remained calm and intelligent (tombstone man, Bill Sikes, A karenia, Lon, CVX, Capt. Buzzard for 99% of the way, the gentleman with the Shakespeare Avatar [sorry I don’t recall your name] and so on) I commend you more.
Finally, last and most certainly not least! My prime target who I will make as my main subject to prove my professor’s point during my oral presentation … of course, you all know her, Ms. Lady Cop! With all due respect, I have to say that you represented yourself in a manner of ill emotion, irrational thought and combative abuse with no intelligent base or valid debate fashion. I was afraid you were not going to engage, but you did and what a dozzie it was. Not only that, you followed up with another thread to continue it all on!
And for all of you saying I was mean and aggressive toward her, you are right. I had to be to get the results I was investigating for my research. I thought Anastrophe was going to be my target, but then Lady Cop came along and made it all too easy! My luring you into debate is over and I stand true to some of the things I said in my posts, like I do respect you for your infinite worth as a soul, but in court, you would be a prosecuting attorney’s dream to tear apart on the stand.
I even went as far as to do a little research on Linda, I mean Lady Cop per the help of some friends to “investigate†her and nail her to the cross with that web site I posted where she truly was banned, but that action did not get nearly the response that the earlier on did and plus, the “administrator moderator†e-mailed me and told me to be good or I would be banned and that would defeat my entire project.
Okay, it is all said and done on my end as my work here is complete and now must be put into essay and presentation forum. Oh yeah, the question my professor posed about the common public and being able to conduct an intelligent debate per courtroom protocol … and I know, none of you thought you were in a courtroom, but tendencies are usually habitual or … the apple doesn’t fall from the tree theory, well, I will let you guess what my opinion is.
Someone kept responding with several posts telling me to apologize to Cop Lady or else … or else I don’t know what. I think it was that wild Canadian guy, but anyhow, I really am a nice guy who is a law student and enjoyed this project. You may be very distraught that you were unknowingly participants in it, but this is the web and its all public access! My point about the apology thing is that if I offended you, I am sorry as I don’t operate in such a manner on a regular basis, but also remember, I am going to be an attorney too.
Further, I admit that I am arrogant and opinionated, but am usually more couth in how I dispense it. I only had 3 days to get all of you going! Yes, I do like myself and NO, I don’t have 27 children. Anyone who bought into that was kind of goofy! Most all the info on my profile page was made up except I have been to Scotland and Ireland and I did study at Oxford University. The two pictures I posted under the name of Saintsman, well, I am sure you can guess! It all seemed so real! Especially for Lady Cop who really got missed-off with a “pâ€.
I really have no intention or desire to stay at a public forum where I am not wanted so Anastrophe’s analogy of me being a troll that needed to get attention or boost my ego or seek attention and all the rest was humorous! Those who chimed in with their psych eval. of me that mirrored Anastrophe’s were entertaining too. Anyhow, I can clearly see when Mr. “Saintsman†is not loved and he will disappear as mid-terms are coming soon and this thing can get addicting for sure!
Capt. Buzzard, stand your ground from now on and don’t fall prey to cheap “newbies†like me! Man, I thought you had me, but I got you in the end. Like Lady Cop “tipping her King.†Boy, I talked the talk in those posts, aye! That should be the icing on the cake to get me an “Aâ€!
Interestingly enough, I was not banned and for a while there, I thought for sure I would be, but at that point I did not care as I had more than enough proof to present my case as the discussion and or debate went to all emotional Hell and continued on for quite some time! My prof. would have said I was unjustly booted should I have been banned, but FG never did, no matter how many posts there were asking them to from LC and others.
Also, I certainly am not here to create any controversy now, but I will say that some of the censorship that LC did last night probably wasn’t appropriate while other deletions were. Just something for all of you to ponder. I couldn’t care less, I only used the juvenile third grade potty talk story to incite a debate that I would tie to politics over censorship while leading you all down a path of emotional ranting to show my professor (who is a judge in a U.S. circuit court) how well I did in debasing the “common Folkâ€.
I really am truly interested in your comments on this specific post right here and not any of my other ones. Anyone who has read this far now, well … should voice some opinion and at this point, Capt. Buzzard, there are no tricks! I really would like to hear your thoughts on all this.
Then Come Monday evening, I shall unsubscribe myself from your garden and be on my merry way … unless of course, you would like me to stay just a wee bit longer!
Education. It is a wonderful and entertaining experience!
truth and nothing, but the truth from “Saintsman!â€
All of you who have responded to my new membership in the FG have been
part of my university assigned law lab-project over the past 5 days!
I am currently sitting in the university library finalizing my many,
many printed FG notes from the posts I got through those of you over
the past couple of days so I can begin my essay. Are you a bit curious? Here is the real story!
Indeed, I am a law student and one week ago, I was one of 28 students
assigned a project by our social behaviors & psychology law professor
who has been engaging in this lab-project for five years now. The
assignment and mission was as follows per the syllabi:
Task:
1.) To seek, enroll and investigate a public forum to determine if
you are capable of engaging in intelligent discourse among the members
you interact with. The determination of intelligent discourse will be
graded on conversations and debates that are void of irrational
bantering, dead dogmas, useless expressions of demoralization and ill-
tempered emotional eruptions. (These behaviors are shunned in our
courts and not protocol.)
2.) To experience the “general public’s†ability in rapport,
rationalization, articulation, linguistic ability, maturity and
ability to receive, process, deliberate verbal expressions as
compared to the behavior, demeanor and protocol expected by future
attorneys in a courtroom. (These respondents will represent a general
foundation for the type of character making up your future witnesses
and juries, for better or worse.)
Rules:
The student entering the public forum must continually pose
intelligent questions and responses relevant to the topic and
respondents questions. This will be determined on the basis of the
conversations and debates you print from the web-site discourse and
display on the overhead projector during your oral presentation. The
student has only three days of university sponsored computer lab hours
(no more than eight sitting hours in one period) to conduct, complete
and finalize the discourse.
Objective:
In seeking to engage in a deliberate, rational and productive
discourse in pursuit of knowledge, understanding and truth, the
student must bring up at least one of three controversial subjects in
the forum.
1.) Religion
2.) Politics
3.) Sexual behavior.
Through the duration of the discourse, the student is allowed to
attempt to emotionally debase or incite negative responses by the
respondents of senseless rhetoric providing the student remains civil,
non-abusive and in-control of intelligent rapport throughout. This
will determined, again, by the overhead conversations you display
during your oral presentation of the actual posts, threads or IM’s.
If any student is banned prior to the completion of the discourse,
that will be evidence that a ruling body of the forum determined the
student’s behavior below standard unless the student can provide
physical proof by printing out actual posts and discourse showing
blatant and unjust action on the part of a moderator, web-advisor or
governing partisan of the forum. I would advise students not be
banned for the purpose of your overall evaluation during this lab.
All material must be researched, compiled, analyzed and put into
syllabi required essay form by Tuesday, February 15th, 2005.
Any and all alterations of this prescribed format must be approved by
this professor prior to any action on the student’s part. Questions pertaining to this project are acceptable if posted to my university e-mail address only.
There you have it! Yes, I guess you were guinea pigs, but it was all for the pursuit of education!
For any of you who are interested in my conclusions, I welcome you to read on.
First, my professor was ABSOLUTELY correct when he said it would probably be very easy to incite and draw an unknown respondent into a state of emotional disarray and illogical thought patterns. The more one is able to debase and rock the boat by getting their addressee to act in unacceptable behaviors, the better for that attorney’s foundation of sensible reasoning and controlled behavior.
Notice what my posts were: 1.) “Religion, Children and Whipping Toolsâ€
Actually, I thought I had a good chance of proving my professor wrong as that thread and its posts were quite good and I did not incite a lot of craziness on behalf of the respondents and I did maintain intelligent questions are responses through out.
So, I moved onto to another attempt with a post that would hopefully stir up a bit more emotion, but indeed, be founded on logic! Yes, politics and that of censorship. Ah, my next thread to see if I could appease my professor with the “common folk†who appear in our nation’s courtrooms was titled, “Censorshit … I mean ‘ship’!†The pun was clever I thought. Well, that did it! I got the reaction I was aiming for and not only that, all of the areas of my “character reaction sheet†were soon filled in with all the ugly responses that good ole prof. said would come thanks to those of you who responded.
My conclusion at this point only applies to you FG ppl. who participated with responses.
1. Bill Sikes: You did prove my prof. wrong and represented yourself and your country in an inspiring and intelligent debate in my “religion†thread with rational and well supported debate. Kuddos to you if you want them.
2. Jives: You should be proud too, but you made it clear that you
are an educator and your demeanor represented exactly that of
an educated respondent.
3. For the Canadian responders: Koan (moderator)& Kensloft …
very disappointing. Kensloft, you threatened me in your post!?
Koan, it started off good, but went down hill fast into a pit of
insults and rhetoric that has no place in intelligent debate.
Minks … You represented Canada most beautifully and I truly
appreciate your support (you know what I mean) even though you
were unaware that I was on a mission. You scored highly!
4. For us Americans, I have mixed feelings. There was good, but then we should be ashamed or at least I am! One of the posters said in a thread that American’s know they rule the world and act like it … pompus, arrogant and I will add irrational.
It was quite easy for me to lure Anastrophe into debate, but I conclude that most all your arguments were built one opinion without support before you began the ill criticism and negative demeanor toward me.
Godiva Girl: started off very intelligent and well in the relgion and spanking topic, but went deep south at the end with needless insults and so on.
Babyrider … well, you already know how I have to present your demeanor as one of the “common folkâ€. My goodness, just go over your responses to me and feel the hate, anger and pain I was able to stir up in you. One person should not be capable of inciting such behaviors from another when in a public debate or forum.
Abbey, both good and bad.
Enigma: Bravo to YOU!
Lon: Bravo to YOU!
A Karenia: Bravo to YOU!
Tmbsgrl:
Carla: What the heck was that all about?
Anyhow, I could go on, but I won’t
Onto my biggest challenge. Capt. Buzzard! As the day was nearing an end and I had spent almost 7 hours in the library computer lab, I was unable to entice Capt. Buzzard to join the rhetoric and BS. I was unable to get him to break. His fortitude was impressive, but I continued on and … although I admire your stamina, indeed, at the end of the day Capt. Buzzard did fall in to the trap, at first in a very neutral way, which is commendable, but the last comment posted was one of an ill and emotional statement concerning sunshine and goodness in my life. I had succeeded! I drew him and he took a side! And he made a polite, but still needless emotional comment. Whew, you almost got me.
Now, for all of you who may have been reading all along, but never did join it, I commend you. For those who did join in, but remained calm and intelligent (tombstone man, Bill Sikes, A karenia, Lon, CVX, Capt. Buzzard for 99% of the way, the gentleman with the Shakespeare Avatar [sorry I don’t recall your name] and so on) I commend you more.
Finally, last and most certainly not least! My prime target who I will make as my main subject to prove my professor’s point during my oral presentation … of course, you all know her, Ms. Lady Cop! With all due respect, I have to say that you represented yourself in a manner of ill emotion, irrational thought and combative abuse with no intelligent base or valid debate fashion. I was afraid you were not going to engage, but you did and what a dozzie it was. Not only that, you followed up with another thread to continue it all on!
And for all of you saying I was mean and aggressive toward her, you are right. I had to be to get the results I was investigating for my research. I thought Anastrophe was going to be my target, but then Lady Cop came along and made it all too easy! My luring you into debate is over and I stand true to some of the things I said in my posts, like I do respect you for your infinite worth as a soul, but in court, you would be a prosecuting attorney’s dream to tear apart on the stand.
I even went as far as to do a little research on Linda, I mean Lady Cop per the help of some friends to “investigate†her and nail her to the cross with that web site I posted where she truly was banned, but that action did not get nearly the response that the earlier on did and plus, the “administrator moderator†e-mailed me and told me to be good or I would be banned and that would defeat my entire project.
Okay, it is all said and done on my end as my work here is complete and now must be put into essay and presentation forum. Oh yeah, the question my professor posed about the common public and being able to conduct an intelligent debate per courtroom protocol … and I know, none of you thought you were in a courtroom, but tendencies are usually habitual or … the apple doesn’t fall from the tree theory, well, I will let you guess what my opinion is.
Someone kept responding with several posts telling me to apologize to Cop Lady or else … or else I don’t know what. I think it was that wild Canadian guy, but anyhow, I really am a nice guy who is a law student and enjoyed this project. You may be very distraught that you were unknowingly participants in it, but this is the web and its all public access! My point about the apology thing is that if I offended you, I am sorry as I don’t operate in such a manner on a regular basis, but also remember, I am going to be an attorney too.
Further, I admit that I am arrogant and opinionated, but am usually more couth in how I dispense it. I only had 3 days to get all of you going! Yes, I do like myself and NO, I don’t have 27 children. Anyone who bought into that was kind of goofy! Most all the info on my profile page was made up except I have been to Scotland and Ireland and I did study at Oxford University. The two pictures I posted under the name of Saintsman, well, I am sure you can guess! It all seemed so real! Especially for Lady Cop who really got missed-off with a “pâ€.
I really have no intention or desire to stay at a public forum where I am not wanted so Anastrophe’s analogy of me being a troll that needed to get attention or boost my ego or seek attention and all the rest was humorous! Those who chimed in with their psych eval. of me that mirrored Anastrophe’s were entertaining too. Anyhow, I can clearly see when Mr. “Saintsman†is not loved and he will disappear as mid-terms are coming soon and this thing can get addicting for sure!
Capt. Buzzard, stand your ground from now on and don’t fall prey to cheap “newbies†like me! Man, I thought you had me, but I got you in the end. Like Lady Cop “tipping her King.†Boy, I talked the talk in those posts, aye! That should be the icing on the cake to get me an “Aâ€!
Interestingly enough, I was not banned and for a while there, I thought for sure I would be, but at that point I did not care as I had more than enough proof to present my case as the discussion and or debate went to all emotional Hell and continued on for quite some time! My prof. would have said I was unjustly booted should I have been banned, but FG never did, no matter how many posts there were asking them to from LC and others.
Also, I certainly am not here to create any controversy now, but I will say that some of the censorship that LC did last night probably wasn’t appropriate while other deletions were. Just something for all of you to ponder. I couldn’t care less, I only used the juvenile third grade potty talk story to incite a debate that I would tie to politics over censorship while leading you all down a path of emotional ranting to show my professor (who is a judge in a U.S. circuit court) how well I did in debasing the “common Folkâ€.
I really am truly interested in your comments on this specific post right here and not any of my other ones. Anyone who has read this far now, well … should voice some opinion and at this point, Capt. Buzzard, there are no tricks! I really would like to hear your thoughts on all this.
Then Come Monday evening, I shall unsubscribe myself from your garden and be on my merry way … unless of course, you would like me to stay just a wee bit longer!
Education. It is a wonderful and entertaining experience!
If you're not good for your word, what good are you? :yh_think :yh_flag Live & make a Difference!
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JAB wrote: OK then....I'm cooking some hot Italian sausage for dinner tonight (yum!)....I should be working on updating my resume so I can find a new job. The company I work for is moving to NYC and I decided not to move there. I have until the end of the year but since I'm prone to procrastination (evidenced by the fact that I'm posting here instead of on my resume!) I thought I'd start now....it's supposed to be 50 degrees here tomorrow so I think I'll put my headphones on and go for a power walk....after dinner it's a book or movie...hmm, either way, a popcorn snack will be involved! Not eye-popping exciting but it is a laid back "me" weekend that is nice to have every so often.Keep some for me
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Cook some hamburgers. Take Zeus for a walk. Watch the kids play hockey in the local park. Drink some coffee. Do some work on the web and spend a 'me' weekend in the garden having fun.
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Nicely Handled LC. I suppose this should set an example for others who jump in here thinking they are all full of "stuff".
I had a fabo weekend, Got very spoilt (love that spelling) by the BF yesterday with gifts and breakfast in bed
Hope you had or will have a nice Valentines as well.
Cheers.
I had a fabo weekend, Got very spoilt (love that spelling) by the BF yesterday with gifts and breakfast in bed

Hope you had or will have a nice Valentines as well.
Cheers.
�You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.�
• Mae West
• Mae West
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I spent the weekend watching it rain, we're s'posed to get 8"/yr, we got 4" this weekend, and another equivalent storm is supposed to hit Wednesday. All the water took out a link in our telephone system, leaving me off line, and er watchin the damn rain come down, and down etc. MEMO TO MOTHER NATURE: Did'ja ferget that this is supposed ta be a desert??? :yh_beatup :yh_frustr :yh_sad
Old age and treachery, is an acceptable response to overwelming youth and skill

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Der Wulf wrote: I spent the weekend watching it rain, we're s'posed to get 8"/yr, we got 4" this weekend, and another equivalent storm is supposed to hit Wednesday. All the water took out a link in our telephone system, leaving me off line, and er watchin the damn rain come down, and down etc. MEMO TO MOTHER NATURE: Did'ja ferget that this is supposed ta be a desert??? :yh_beatup :yh_frustr :yh_sad
Remember my friend during our sojourn in Gila Bend talking to one of the locals about the weather and commenting on the rain cloudy looking heavens.
He looked up to the sky with its rain laden clouds, which were there almost everyday, and said, "It sure threatens to rain a lot doesn't it? The local nodded in ageement.
Topographically speaking the deluge sounds about par for the course. Ah.
You would have enjoyed it over the weekend but you sound like you were having the most fun of all.
Remember my friend during our sojourn in Gila Bend talking to one of the locals about the weather and commenting on the rain cloudy looking heavens.
He looked up to the sky with its rain laden clouds, which were there almost everyday, and said, "It sure threatens to rain a lot doesn't it? The local nodded in ageement.
Topographically speaking the deluge sounds about par for the course. Ah.
You would have enjoyed it over the weekend but you sound like you were having the most fun of all.
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Der Wulf wrote: I spent the weekend watching it rain, we're s'posed to get 8"/yr, we got 4" this weekend, and another equivalent storm is supposed to hit Wednesday. All the water took out a link in our telephone system, leaving me off line, and er watchin the damn rain come down, and down etc. MEMO TO MOTHER NATURE: Did'ja ferget that this is supposed ta be a desert??? This is really funny considering my brother and his wife and young baby just
moved to Phoenix area... primarily to get away from the wet Bremerton,
Washington area!!! :yh_rotfl
Good friends also moved there... and everybody is trying to convince my
husband and I to give it a try!!!
:yh_idea
moved to Phoenix area... primarily to get away from the wet Bremerton,
Washington area!!! :yh_rotfl
Good friends also moved there... and everybody is trying to convince my
husband and I to give it a try!!!
:yh_idea
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valerie wrote: This is really funny considering my brother and his wife and young baby just moved to Phoenix area... primarily to get away from the wet Bremerton,Washington area!!!
Good friends also moved there... and everybody is trying to convince my
husband and I to give it a try!!!
Off the thread, but thought you would enjoy this. It's serious advice, from a local forum, for new residents. Check out the "suggested reading" Oh yeah, one more thing, watch this space, in about 4 mo., for serious bitchin about "it's too damn hot and dry"
http://phoenix.about.com/cs/weather/ht/100degrees.htm
How To Be Smart When It Is Over 100 Degrees
There are certain things that smart people do (or don't do) when the temperature rises over 100 degrees. Those of us who have lived in Phoenix for a while understand these. Those of you who are new to Phoenix, take our advice!
Here's How:
1. Do not leave chocolate, dairy products, fresh flowers or fish in the car.
2. Do not lie in the sun and fall asleep.
3. Do not leave children or pets in your car. Not even for a minute. Not even with the window cracked open.
4. Do not walk your dog on pavement after the sun has been heating it up. The pads of his/her feet will burn.
5. Do not walk outside in bare feet. See number(4)above.
6. Do not use your oven and create more heat in your house. Use the barbecue or microwave.
7. Do not do strenuous work outside in the heat alone.
8. Do not travel with your dog in the back of your flatbed truck. The floor heats up fast, especially if is metal, and the dog cannot escape it.
9. Do not leave your car outside with the windows tightly shut. The heat inside the vehicle rises quickly and enough pressure can build up to blow out your windows.
10. Do not leave compact discs on the seat or dash of the car.
11. Do not turn off the air conditioner in the house while you are at work if you have pets in the house.
12. Do not constantly turn the air conditioner on and off. Keep your house at a somewhat constant temperature.
13. Do not touch metal, or even dark plastic, car door handles, ignition switches, steering wheels, keys or stick shifts. Keep a small towel handy so you don't burn yourself.
14. Do not play sports outside without drinking plenty of water constantly.
15. Do check your car's battery often and make sure that water levels are adequate.
Tips:
1. The temperature inside a closed vehicle that has been sitting in our hot sun can reach over 200 degrees in a very short time. Please take the warnings about children and pets very seriously.
2. People who fall asleep in the sun, or who spend a great deal of time outdoors, run the risk of serious burns.
3. If you have to park your car outside, try to find covered parking.
Suggested Reading :-3
How to Handle Heat Exhaustion
How to Handle Heat Stroke
What To Do When the Temp is 115
Good friends also moved there... and everybody is trying to convince my
husband and I to give it a try!!!
Off the thread, but thought you would enjoy this. It's serious advice, from a local forum, for new residents. Check out the "suggested reading" Oh yeah, one more thing, watch this space, in about 4 mo., for serious bitchin about "it's too damn hot and dry"
http://phoenix.about.com/cs/weather/ht/100degrees.htm
How To Be Smart When It Is Over 100 Degrees
There are certain things that smart people do (or don't do) when the temperature rises over 100 degrees. Those of us who have lived in Phoenix for a while understand these. Those of you who are new to Phoenix, take our advice!
Here's How:
1. Do not leave chocolate, dairy products, fresh flowers or fish in the car.
2. Do not lie in the sun and fall asleep.
3. Do not leave children or pets in your car. Not even for a minute. Not even with the window cracked open.
4. Do not walk your dog on pavement after the sun has been heating it up. The pads of his/her feet will burn.
5. Do not walk outside in bare feet. See number(4)above.
6. Do not use your oven and create more heat in your house. Use the barbecue or microwave.
7. Do not do strenuous work outside in the heat alone.
8. Do not travel with your dog in the back of your flatbed truck. The floor heats up fast, especially if is metal, and the dog cannot escape it.
9. Do not leave your car outside with the windows tightly shut. The heat inside the vehicle rises quickly and enough pressure can build up to blow out your windows.
10. Do not leave compact discs on the seat or dash of the car.
11. Do not turn off the air conditioner in the house while you are at work if you have pets in the house.
12. Do not constantly turn the air conditioner on and off. Keep your house at a somewhat constant temperature.
13. Do not touch metal, or even dark plastic, car door handles, ignition switches, steering wheels, keys or stick shifts. Keep a small towel handy so you don't burn yourself.
14. Do not play sports outside without drinking plenty of water constantly.
15. Do check your car's battery often and make sure that water levels are adequate.
Tips:
1. The temperature inside a closed vehicle that has been sitting in our hot sun can reach over 200 degrees in a very short time. Please take the warnings about children and pets very seriously.
2. People who fall asleep in the sun, or who spend a great deal of time outdoors, run the risk of serious burns.
3. If you have to park your car outside, try to find covered parking.
Suggested Reading :-3
How to Handle Heat Exhaustion
How to Handle Heat Stroke
What To Do When the Temp is 115

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Hey, thanks Der Wulf. First one, while serious, is hilarious!!
I looked at that link, and some real estate listings. Pretty tempting,
I must say.
:-6
I looked at that link, and some real estate listings. Pretty tempting,
I must say.
:-6
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valerie wrote: Hey, thanks Der Wulf. First one, while serious, is hilarious!!
I looked at that link, and some real estate listings. Pretty tempting,
I must say.
:-6
Hmmm? Canines moving into the deep south.:sneaky: Hmmm? Is this a plot unfolding? Hmmm?
:-6
I looked at that link, and some real estate listings. Pretty tempting,
I must say.
:-6
Hmmm? Canines moving into the deep south.:sneaky: Hmmm? Is this a plot unfolding? Hmmm?
:-6