The trial starts Monday

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:28 pm

Excellent BR like I said yestarday it should be over by weeks end. Thank God you have an excellent attorney.:-6 :-6

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:40 am

spot wrote: What notion have you at the moment of the trial's duration, BR? It sounds a good start.
It was a great start, Spot. The prosecutor has only about 5 more witnesses to call tomorrow, (Wednesday), and then we get to start calling our witnesses, about 4 or 5, including Bullet. It should be handed over for the jury to deliberate by Thursday at the latest. I seriously doubt they will deliberate very long. Week's end, it should all be over. If tomorrow goes anything like today did, I will be on cloud nine. I expect it will go even better when we get OUR witnesses up there.

I wish I could adequately describe how slick our lawyer is. He comes off as this sort of quiet, somewhat meek oddball, but Geeeezus, you get him in a cross-examination, and he's totally brilliant. He came up with ways to shoot down prosecution testimony that I never even thought of, and I've been thinking about nothing else for going on 11 months. He is worth every penny we had to spend on him.

We are being very proactive in the case, obviously, and with three good brains on this, we've got a supurb chance at walking away from this. I'm so pumped full of adrenaline right now that I will probably end up pulling an all-nighter here. I have to be up in 4 hours anyway.

I give a lot of the credit to all of you here who have been so concerned and sending positive vibes, good thoughts and prayers our way.

Y'all are a super bunch. :-4 :-4

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:44 am

im getting muddled up here hun, is the wedding this weekend?

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:45 am

SnoozeControl wrote: I doubt a guy in prison brown coveralls and wearing shackles would impress the jury very much. :yh_loser
I could simply NOT believe that they brought this guy in. He could not remember from one minute to the next what lie he'd just told. It was simply priceless. And the looks on the faces of the jury?? God, if only I'd had a camera. Great stuff, something that would make a great book.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:47 am

buttercup wrote: im getting muddled up here hun, is the wedding this weekend?
No, Butter. Actually Bullet and I eloped on December 1st, 2005. We just wanted the reception in the summer, and that was last weekend.

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:55 am

thank you, have i missed the pics & how it all went or have you yet to post them?

point me to the threads if there are please, did you splat him with cake? ive been looking forward to all the news

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:02 am

buttercup wrote: thank you, have i missed the pics & how it all went or have you yet to post them?

point me to the threads if there are please, did you splat him with cake? ive been looking forward to all the news

Check out Flopstock's thread about witnessing magic....It's really cool, and she's got quite a few pics up already.

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:04 am

ooooh excited, which catagory is it in - chit chat?

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:30 am

found it, awwwwwww br :-4 congratulations

chrisb84uk · Post by **chrisb84uk** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:23 am

That's great news about the trial BR, I'm so glad to hear that it went so well for you on Monday. I'm sure that it will be over in no time soon, but here's sending you some more good luck, feel free to do with it whatever you wish!! :p

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:46 am

I hope it continues to go well BR. I hope by the weekend it is a thing of the past and you and Bullet have one less burden.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:21 pm

And, yes....ANOTHER great day at the court house!!

Defense rested today after calling in various ballistics and forensic experts, all of whom had absolutely nothing to add to the case, simply because Bullet is not trying to say he didn't shoot the man. Frankly, I think the prosecutor wasted a WHOLE lot of time on these types of witnesses.

Finally, we got to call our witnesses, which turned out to be only Ox and Bullet. Ox was shakey, he was scared and isn't really all that bright, but he stuck to the truth, even if he did stumble a bit on some facts. Then, Bullet took the stand. He was absolutely brilliant. The prosecutor actually turned the jury against him while cross-examining Bullet because he was so confrontational. You could see it on their faces that they were aggravated with the way he was so harsh with Bullet. The man is desperately grasping at straws now, and losing ground quickly. When Bullet was being questioned about the shots fired at him the prosecutor was trying to discredit him by asking things like "Did you feel or hear a bullet go past you...." and asking the same thing over and over in different ways. Finally Bullet said, "Look, just because the guy is a lousy shot, doesn't mean he wasn't shooting at me!!"

That brought a chuckle from the jury and a total hissy fit from the prosecutor. It was extremely funny.

Also, at the very end, after the jury was dismissed, the prosecutor asked if he might put in a motion to lower the charge to involuntary manslaughter. This means that he does not believe he can win with the charge of murder 2. The judge denied that motion.

So, tomorrow we go hear closing arguments, each lawyer getting 20 minutes to make their closings, then 5 minutes each for rebuttal, then the judge will give his instructions to the jury which will take about 20 minutes. Then they go to deliberate. So, at about 11:00 am my time, the whole thing will be in the hands of the jury. Once again....keep your fingers crossed and your prayers and vibes coming, PLEASE!!

Thanks for being here through this, all of you.

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:29 pm

BabyRider wrote: Also, at the very end, after the jury was dismissed, the prosecutor asked if he might put in a motion to lower the charge to involuntary manslaughter. This means that he does not believe he can win with the charge of murder 2. The judge denied that motion.That sounds the best of all of it, then. So long as the jury isn't suddenly struck by a desire to lash out regardless, you might be back tomorrow with it behind you both. It's been a long ordeal, you've held up well under it.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:34 pm

you got it, sending you good vibes.

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:33 pm

phew! I'm on pins and needles! I'm certain this will go your way - I just want it to end!

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:40 pm

It'll be all over soon hon and you can both get on with the rest of your lives together.:-4

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:46 pm

If the presecution lawyer's running scared then you've good grounds for optimism.

Watch the Jury, see how they're reacting.

Keep yer ****** up and keep on reporting back

What the hell's up with p e c k e r ?

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:47 pm

Bryn Mawr wrote: Keep yer ****** up and keep on reporting backGood Lord, I can't believe you said that on an open forum!

BR, he's just being British, he means well.

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:55 pm

Pinky wrote: It means penis in the USA:DAnd penis is unstarred by FG but ****** is starred?

Simple answer there then, Bryn.

(for those who haven't worked it out, p e c k e r in this context in English is "chin". The OED disagrees with me in this instance, with Brit. colloq. Courage, resolution. Chiefly in to keep one's ****** up: to remain cheerful or steadfast. - but I'm right and it's wrong. I'll settle for "beak" instead of "chin", since it's an obvious reference to the courage of bantam... oh bloody hell, more asterisks? c o c k s. Why do we have a profanity filter than can't recognise context??).

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:57 pm

Pinky wrote: It means penis in the USA:D

"Keep your ****** up Meaning

Remain cheerful.

Origin

This is the English ******, i.e. mouth, as opposed to the American, i.e. penis."

Excuse me - I'm British!

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:58 pm

spot wrote: And penis is unstarred by FG but ****** is starred?

Simple answer there then, Bryn.

(for those who haven't worked it out, p e c k e r in this context in English is "chin").

Mouth surely - what else do you give a peck on the cheek with?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:02 pm

Pinky wrote: Sorry to corrupt this thread with my bizarre sense of humour - I'm apologising in advance - I'll remember that next time I feel the need to insult someone.

Chin-headhas a good ring to it, don't you think?:D

And I've met a few of those in my time, I can tell you :wah:

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:12 pm

Pinky wrote: Me too! Oh well,they give me something to play with when I get bored.

Pinky, I'm shocked - that a quite different use of the word!

Erinna1112 · Post by **Erinna1112** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:21 pm

Well, to drag the thread back onto topic...

Hearing a bullet go by is marginally feasible...you don't hear it unless it's really close. But I can't imagine actually seeing a bullet go by. They're just too fast. I think the prosecutor shot himself in the foot (ha) with those questions.

Got the fingers crossed here.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:27 pm

Erinna1112 wrote: Well, to drag the thread back onto topic...

Hearing a bullet go by is marginally feasible...you don't hear it unless it's really close. But I can't imagine actually seeing a bullet go by. They're just too fast. I think the prosecutor shot himself in the foot (ha) with those questions.

Got the fingers crossed here.

I think we've all got fingers, arms, legs and everything else crossed.

The relief is that BRs reports are sounding so positive

Roll on Tomorrow night and an acquittal

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:48 pm

How did things go today BR?

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:52 pm

SON OF A BITCH!!!!

The freakin' jury got the case at 11 this morning and are STILL deliberating. They recessed till tomorrow, so we have to go BACK again. Bullet and I are both cracked, we were so sure it was cut-and-dried, and the jury would see that and come back quickly. Our lawyer says the length of time they are taking is a good thing, but that does NOTHING to make Bullet and I feel better.

He's a mess. He's not taking calls and he just wants to be left alone, which of course I will do for him. Me, I'm popping xanax like a fiend and I still can't relax. I feel like the doper I used to be. This is pure, unadulterated torture, this waiting.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:57 pm

It'll still be okay, BR. Think of it this way... that jury doesn't want

anyone "out there" to think they didn't do their job.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:57 pm

BabyRider wrote: SON OF A BITCH!!!!

The freakin' jury got the case at 11 this morning and are STILL deliberating. They recessed till tomorrow, so we have to go BACK again. Bullet and I are both cracked, we were so sure it was cut-and-dried, and the jury would see that and come back quickly. Our lawyer says the length of time they are taking is a good thing, but that does NOTHING to make Bullet and I feel better.

He's a mess. He's not taking calls and he just wants to be left alone, which of course I will do for him. Me, I'm popping xanax like a fiend and I still can't relax. I feel like the doper I used to be. This is pure, unadulterated torture, this waiting.I'm sorry it did'nt go as you hoped, try to stay focused, your lawyer seems to know what he's talking about, trust him.

I'm certain everything will be all right.

Post by **spot** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:03 pm

There's no reason why they shouldn't want to go over everything they've heard, tick off points on their notebooks, make sure they all know everything each of them's picked up. It's a big thing for them too, BR - very few people get called on to make a decision of this importance.

The two of you have absolutely nothing left that you can do to influence matters, all you can manage is to try to sleep at least a couple of hours and avoid going white-haired under the strain. Tomorrow is no different to today. You go in, the jury carry on, they're no more or less likely to go either way now than they were to start with. You saw the case, you know what was said, you have to wait it out.

I can imagine a jury saying guilty as hell inside minutes of retiring, but other than that talking it all out makes more sense than rushing. Your lawyer says the length of time they are taking is a good thing? He's seen a lot more trials than you have between you. Take him at his word.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:09 pm

spot wrote: There's no reason why they shouldn't want to go over everything they've heard, tick off points on their notebooks, make sure they all know everything each of them's picked up. It's a big thing for them too, BR - very few people get called on to make a decision of this importance.

The two of you have absolutely nothing left that you can do to influence matters, all you can manage is to try to sleep at least a couple of hours and avoid going white-haired under the strain. Tomorrow is no different to today. You go in, the jury carry on, they're no more or less likely to go either way now than they were to start with. You saw the case, you know what was said, you have to wait it out.

I can imagine a jury saying guilty as hell inside minutes of retiring, but other than that talking it all out makes more sense than rushing. Your lawyer says the length of time they are taking is a good thing? He's seen a lot more trials than you have between you. Take him at his word.
Dear, sweet Spot. Always the voice of reason and logic. Thank you. That calming manner has a good affect.

You guys are so terrific to put up with my constant freaking out of late. Like I said before....luv you guys. :-4

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:13 pm

Mean of them to leave you

Tomorrow we'll be doing this:

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:30 pm

spot wrote: Why do we have a profanity filter than can't recognise context??).

if anyone should fancy to donate a quad opteron server with 16GB of memory, we can probably accomodate a contextual profanity filter.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:45 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: I've got a good feeling this'll all be over tomorrow morning and you two can enjoy your weekend with all this finished and behind you. *visualizing a golden glow all around Bullet*
Thank you for that, Snooze. I wish I had all the confidence you guys do.

cars · Post by **cars** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:56 pm

Good luck tomorrow BR, Pink has your FG family lighting candles & meditating for an hour sending/focusing positive good thoughts/vibes for Bullet & you! As the saying goes something like this, "You shall overcome"! And you will!!!

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:04 pm

cars wrote: Good luck tomorrow BR, Pink has your FG family lighting candles & meditating for an hour sending/focusing positive good thoughts/vibes for Bullet & you!
I know....isn't she great? You all are great. I was just telling another member in PM; all this unconditional support and love and concern and words of encouragement mean more to me than I can adequately express. I'd like to borrow anastrophe's vocabulary to give it a whirl, though!

I totally believe in the power of people focusing their thoughts and energy on something like this, so I hope a whole lot of you join her in this effort. :-4 :-4

mominiowa · Post by **mominiowa** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:17 pm

Going down to the chapel to light a candle...

:yh_pray I am bearing my soul to HIM and you and Bullet are going to be ok....I am serious--I just know it...Thinking of you...Much love to you!:-4

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:27 pm

mominiowa wrote: Going down to the chapel to light a candle...

:yh_pray I am bearing my soul to HIM and you and Bullet are going to be ok....I am serious--I just know it...Thinking of you...Much love to you!:-4
Mom, with what you have on your own plate...to be concerned with us...I just can't say what it means to me. You're one of the strongest, most selfless people I know. Love ya, sweets. :-4

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:56 pm

BR, Like I keep saying it will all be behind you tomorrow I feel it in my very old bones that the out come with be as you expect.

The Jury has to do their job as instructed by the judge anything less could mean another trial, so feel good about the time they are taking. I'm praying as always that this will be behind you tomorrow and you can go on with your life and live happy ever after..:-4