WW3 - New World Order - Pole Shift - Age of Peace (2006-2012)

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:03 pm

TruthBringer wrote: I gave you the place that you could fine these accounts and many others Spot! If you would only read before you posted.

Satanism in America Today.No, you mentioned the words, you didn't say it was a website and more to the point you didn't, unless I have missed something, attribute the material to it. How am I meant to guess it's your source, from that?

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:06 pm

You make so much of this material look by implication as though you've authored it. Are you now telling us that the unattributed stuff was written by others, as well as the huge quotes?

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:07 pm

Truth Bringer, how about supplying us with alternative sources then this one website.

http://educate-yourself.org/ps/

Converation and debate is a very good thing, or this would not be a thread for all to respond.

Otherwise, you would have put it into a journal or blog.

And it is common courtesy when copying and pasting from another source, to always quote them. In every single post.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:18 pm

Are you implying that it is unsafe to be a Christian? The conspiracy is against Christians then? Have we heard that yet? Please remind me who the victims of this whole evil plot are supposed to be.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:47 pm

I will provide whatever sources I wish to provide.

Sound arrogant?

If you wish to provide alternative sources, be my guest.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:48 pm

You refer quite often to evil, TruthBringer. Do you regard some aspects of this world as irredeemable?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:50 pm

Some of this stuff is my words. Much of it is knowledge that I have gained outside of the internet.

Outside of the internet.

Outside of the internet.

Outside of the internet.

Outside of the internet.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:51 pm

You cannot locate a source on the internet for most of this information. Therefore you cannot destroy a source on the internet for most of this information. Because there isn't one.

Have fun trying though.

Spectralcloud · Post by **Spectralcloud** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:55 pm

TruthBringer

Your Name is a Powerful Symbol

I pray you have leave of The Father to Speak as Such

From where do your Revelations Originate?

From Black on White or from The Very Spirit of The Christ?

I am following this Discourse/Diatribe very carefully

And have already noted some Discrepencies...

I await the Conclusion of Your Precepts

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:56 pm

I am but a mouthpiece for this information to flow through.

You can remove me from the picture, and thats fine. But all you would have done is removed a mouthpiece.

If you remove this mouthpiece, I guarantee you that there are millions of others to remove.

New mouthpieces are being created everyday, from different sources, and the sources are beginning to grow amazingly fast. People are waking up everyday to the reality of this information. And there aren't enough people out there in the World to counter the Great Awakening thats soon to come.

To destroy this Great Awakening you would have to destroy the source that it's all coming from. And there isn't a being on this planet who has the ability to do that. No matter how hard they might try.

The scales are tilting again as they have many times in the past. No longer is their a net over the information we receive. The net has been removed. And the power of the Age of Light will only get stronger and stronger. It's right around the corner folks! It's a beautiful sight! Wait and see what happens. The World is coming Alive again.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:56 pm

I'd merely like to be able to distinguish your own words from what you quote from elsewhere. It's not just a common courtesy to note and cite quotations, it's productive too.

As things are, my image of you sat typing your thoughts is disippating into a picture of someone adept at copy/paste text processing.

Do people really destroy sources on the internet once they locate them? I promise I never have.

"I will provide whatever sources I wish to provide" is ideal - I've only asked that you note them as such in a way that allows me to find the cited publication, on the Internet or (as previously) elsewhere.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:04 pm

spot wrote: I'd merely like to be able to distinguish your own words from what you quote from elsewhere. It's not just a common courtesy to note and cite quotations, it's productive too.

As things are, my image of you sat typing your thoughts is disippating into a picture of someone adept at copy/paste text processing.

Do people really destroy sources on the internet once they locate them? I promise I never have.

"I will provide whatever sources I wish to provide" is ideal - I've only asked that you note them as such in a way that allows me to find the cited publication, on the Internet or (as previously) elsewhere.

Spot read my words.....IT DOESN'T MATTER. It just doesn't.

As if I was the only one trying to expose this information. As if I was the only one. We can argue back and forth all day about who I am, what I do, where I came from, why I am doing this, what sources this is coming from, and meanwhile, all over the World, people are trading this information back and forth with eachother, growing in knowledge, waiting to do more research, spreading the information with their families and friends, and sooner or later, before we can all even blink, something big is going to happen on this planet. Something so big, it makes everything dark that has occured on this planet within the last 15,000 years look like a spot on a wall. And thats the significance of what we have coming for us now.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:04 pm

TruthBringer wrote: If you remove this mouthpiece, I guarantee you that there are millions of others to remove.

New mouthpieces are being created everyday, from different sources, and the sources are beginning to grow amazingly fast. People are waking up everyday to the reality of this information. And there aren't enough people out there in the World to counter the Great Awakening thats soon to come.I've heard of the notion as a meat puppet...

a new internet community member account is created by another person at the request of a user solely for the purposes of influencing the community on a given issue or issues. While less overtly deceptive than sock puppetry, the effect of meat puppetry and sock puppetry on the community as a whole may be similar.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:07 pm

So have fun toying with me. Toy with me all you want to. I promise that it won't matter in the end. All efforts to stop this new Age from happening will be futile!! Futile!

If you look at the sign of Aquarius, you will see a person pouring water out of a bucket. The water = Knowledge and the knowledge = power. Just like no one can stop the water from flowing, no one on this Planet will be able to stop the knowledge from flowing either. It's pointless to resist it. Rather, enjoy the ride, because the next 1,000 or so years will be a time to remember indeed. Beginning in 2012.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:08 pm

TruthBringer wrote: something big is going to happen on this planet. Something so big, it makes everything dark that has occured on this planet within the last 15,000 years look like a spot on a wall. And thats the significance of what we have coming for us now.So far, due solely to your intransigent bulk-copying practice, you've failed to convince any member here. You have no evidence that you've convinced any anonymous visitor here either, I suspect. If you change your tactic to a friendlier one you might persuade us of this "truth". What you've done so far has been to set our collective mind against even considering any of what you say - just because of your lousy presentation skills.

We'd like to work with you on improving that problem.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:10 pm

TruthBringer wrote: enjoy the ride, because the next 1,000 or so years will be a time to remember indeed. Beginning in 2012.Will this be a sudden onset of change, or a slow progressive onset? I shall not be around for the entire thousand years, after all. Will I know it's taking place if I watch the first ten years, say?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:10 pm

No the Age of Aquarius is upon us all. And The Age of the Messiah is tied in right along with it. Satanists are weak to stop it. The Illuminati is powerless to prevent it. It will come. We will be enlightened, and Good will cover this planet for a millennia.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:13 pm

TruthBringer wrote: All efforts to stop this new Age from happening will be futile!! Futile!I knew that sounded familiar... I just checked. That's a direct quote from "Rise Of The Daleks", and said by Davros. Did you watch that as a child perhaps?

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:14 pm

TruthBringer wrote: No the Age of Aquarius is upon us all. And The Age of the Messiah is tied in right along with it. Satanists are weak to stop it. The Illuminati is powerless to prevent it. It will come. We will be enlightened, and Good will cover this planet for a millennia.So will this be a sudden onset of change, or a slow progressive onset? I shall not be around for the entire thousand years, after all. Will I know it's taking place if I watch the first ten years, say?

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:14 pm

TruthBringer wrote: So have fun toying with me. Toy with me all you want to. I promise that it won't matter in the end. All efforts to stop this new Age from happening will be futile!! Futile!

If you look at the sign of Aquarius, you will see a person pouring water out of a bucket. The water = Knowledge and the knowledge = power. Just like no one can stop the water from flowing, no one on this Planet will be able to stop the knowledge from flowing either. It's pointless to resist it. Rather, enjoy the ride, because the next 1,000 or so years will be a time to remember indeed. Beginning in 2012.

No the Age of Aquarius is upon us all. And The Age of the Messiah is tied in right along with it. Satanists are weak to stop it. The Illuminati is powerless to prevent it. It will come. We will be enlightened, and Good will cover this planet for a millennia.

Resistance is futile. Hmmmm. Where have I heard that before?

Now, just for your information, the sign of Aquarius has been in the sky since the beginning of time. It has not suddenly appeared as a sign to you or anyone else. Meaning, if it is pouring knowledge upon us, it has been doing so for some considerable time already.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:14 pm

spot wrote: Will this be a sudden onset of change, or a slow progressive onset? I shall not be around for the entire thousand years, after all. Will I know it's taking place if I watch the first ten years, say?

Does it really matter either way? Does it matter if you or I are here to experience it?

It's coming either way. The time for it is soon.

You may be here. You may not be. If you can survive the Earth changes that will wreak havoc on this planet for awhile, while the cleanup process begins, then you might have a chance. Thats not for me to decide. Whats important for you to understand is that is that it is coming no matter what. Whether you are alive, dead, here or gone, it will come. And whoever is here to receive it will be able to bask in all of it's glory. And what a glorius time that will be for those who are here to Truly experience it.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:15 pm

Also, for your knowledge, water symbolises emotion, not knowledge. For that you must look for air symbols.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:16 pm

koan wrote: Also, for your knowledge, water symbolises emotion, not knowledge. For that you must look for air symbols.

Koan.

Not when it comes to Aquarius it doesn't. The Symbol of Aquarius is knowledge. This will be the Age of Knowledge as well as Enlightenment.

It's been called many things. The Age of Wisdom. The Age of Technology. No matter what it's been called, it all refers to knowledge.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:17 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Does it really matter either way? Does it matter if you or I are here to experience it?

It's coming either way. The time for it is soon.I shall watch, at least. Will this onset of change be something I will enjoy and assist or something I should shun and fight?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:18 pm

spot wrote: I shall watch, at least. Will this onset of change be something I will enjoy and assist or something I should shun and fight?

I can't answer that question for you.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:18 pm

koan wrote: Also, for your knowledge, water symbolises emotion, not knowledge.That'll be why we don't sing "this is the dawning of the age of encyclopaedias", I expect. I quite like emotion. More's good.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:20 pm

Says who? The Symbol of Aquarius is knowledge. This will be the Age of Knowledge as well as Enlightenment. Your source must come from the time period that the Water Bearer image was created to have any weight over the ancient symbolism I have offered. Interpretation source of mine dates to Hermeticism.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:21 pm

Friends, how many times has this scene been repeated throughout the centuries, beginning with the early believers in Christ??? When Christ's followers were brought before Roman tribunals and questioned about their faith, they had a choice. Throw a pinch of incense on the altar to Caesar and declare him to be "divine" ("Caesar is lord") OR to boldly declare "I am a believer in Christ" And for their confession of "I am a follower of Christ" and refusal to bow the knee to Caesar, history records that they were brutally tortured and killed, not even young believers being spared.

Throughout the centuries such persecutions have been repeated worldwide...YET the believers have survived, overcome and even grown during such times. We faithful of God/Christ in America have this great potential to both overcome and to grow, even during the coming season of great persecution. For we, too, are called to be FAITHFUL UNTO DEATH and to be overcomers in the midst of tribulation.

However, the people of God are not being prepared realistically in America for end-time persecution and martyrdom to come in America. Most of Christs followers are NOT being prepared to "contend earnestly for the faith." In fact, many have compromised their witness and testimony of Jesus Christ even under normal circumstances. Often, when threatened to "leave your beliefs in God or Christ out of the workplace," they have consented and refused to be the witnesses for Christ God's Word calls them to be. Often compromise with any of Jesus's texts can begin quite slowly and subtly, but eventually lead to a tragic denial of Jesus Christ in the end. Of this we must beware.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:21 pm

TruthBringer wrote: I can't answer that question for you.Does it not strike you as an important question for someone to put to you, if they're seeking knowledge and you're offering it? Why can't you answer? Why can you not at least explain what makes the question difficult to answer? "Will this onset of change be something I will enjoy and assist or something I should shun and fight?" - you could try a "if this then this, but if that then that" structure, perhaps.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:22 pm

spot wrote: That'll be why we don't sing "this is the dawning of the age of encyclopaedias", I expect. I quite like emotion. More's good.
:yh_rotfl

Unfortunately, excess emotion can bring lots of insanity as well.

Spectralcloud · Post by **Spectralcloud** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:22 pm

TruthBringer

Knowledge + Understanding = Wisdom

Knowledge without Understanding is Powerless

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:24 pm

One thing people need to understand however, is that there is still 6 years left of tribulation. It began in 2005. It is a period of intense turmoil and disorder on the Planet.

This will be coupled with severe Earth changes of all kinds. Earthquakes, Tornadoes, volcanic eruptions on immense scales, Famines, Wars, you name it.

It will not be easy. And Jesus never said it would be easy. But come 2012, it will have been worth it.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:25 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Friends, how many times has this scene been repeated throughout the centuries, beginning with the early believers in Christ??? When Christ's followers were brought before Roman tribunals and questioned about their faith, they had a choice. Throw a pinch of incense on the altar to Caesar and declare him to be "divine" ("Caesar is lord") OR to boldly declare "I am a believer in Christ" And for their confession of "I am a follower of Christ" and refusal to bow the knee to Caesar, history records that they were brutally tortured and killed, not even young believers being spared.

Throughout the centuries such persecutions have been repeated worldwide...YET the believers have survived, overcome and even grown during such times. We faithful of God/Christ in America have this great potential to both overcome and to grow, even during the coming season of great persecution. For we, too, are called to be FAITHFUL UNTO DEATH and to be overcomers in the midst of tribulation.

However, the people of God are not being prepared realistically in America for end-time persecution and martyrdom to come in America. Most of Christs followers are NOT being prepared to "contend earnestly for the faith." In fact, many have compromised their witness and testimony of Jesus Christ even under normal circumstances. Often, when threatened to "leave your beliefs in God or Christ out of the workplace," they have consented and refused to be the witnesses for Christ God's Word calls them to be. Often compromise with any of Jesus's texts can begin quite slowly and subtly, but eventually lead to a tragic denial of Jesus Christ in the end. Of this we must beware.Do you know, that's not TruthBringer talking, that's another quote from Pam Schuffert. I call that shoddy, I really do.

Spectralcloud · Post by **Spectralcloud** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:25 pm

No Man Knows the Time

Not even the Son Himself

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:26 pm

TruthBringer wrote: One thing people need to understand however, is that there is still 6 years left of tribulation. It began in 2005. It is a period of intense turmoil and disorder on the Planet.

This will be coupled with severe Earth changes of all kinds. Earthquakes, Tornadoes, volcanic eruptions on immense scales, Famines, Wars, you name it.

It will not be easy. And Jesus never said it would be easy. But come 2012, it will have been worth it.

And these trials and tribulations are somehow different from the past?

Your rantings about the year 2012 are reminiscent of the "Galactic Human" series of writings. You've obviously not learned from the past prophets to not put dates on things. Come 2012 you will only be 28 and a little young to have to hide your face in shame.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:27 pm

Incorrect.

The time has been set for the beginning of this Enlightenment process. 2012 was set by the Time Keepers themselves. The time keeping for the Age of Light was something they were given domain over.

I should know. I have been to their pyramids. I have stood on their power grids which will be activated as soon as the process begins.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:28 pm

koan wrote: Unfortunately, excess emotion can bring lots of insanity as well.I get by from year to year on very small doses. I'm convinced that the occasional injection is god for me.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:29 pm

So many are sitting back and hoping in a "Rapture" to take them out before they could ever face end time persecution and martyrdom for His name's sake. Yet they have NOT ONE SCRIPTURE TO STAND ON that conclusively declares this expected scenario to be fulfilled!

NOT ONE SCRIPTURE! In fact, they have just the opposite, as revealed in Matthew 24.

Matthew 24 - "But they have hearkened to the voices of false prophets from behind many pulpits, who have prophesied to them falsely that such end time persecution will not overtake them, and they shall escape by the "Rapture."

By the way, are we living in the time period close to the second coming of Jesus Christ? Of course! Many end-time Bible prophecies being fulfilled in this generation make plain we are living in the end-time period near to His return. But again, since Jesus plainly declared that NO ONE knows the day nor the hour, again it is presumptuous for North American Christians to believe that the "Rapture" will be based upon their desire to escape end-time persecution and hence avoid testing and refining. We are given no such promise that He will return just in time to escape prophesied end-time persecution.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:31 pm

Folks....that END TIME persecution began in 2005 for the World. It will last until 2012. We are only in the beginning stages of it.

If you can survive these next 6 years, then you can survive anything the World throws at you.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:32 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Incorrect.

The time has been set for the beginning of this Enlightenment process. 2012 was set by the Time Keepers themselves. The time keeping for the Age of Light was something they were given domain over.

I should know. I have been to their pyramids. I have stood on their power grids which will be activated as soon as the process begins.

"That is why the Age of Light has been forecast by many Sirians and others in the Galactic Federation who are Time Keepers. We understand the energy patterns..."

That's what I thought You Are A Galactic Human. I've read it all already.

Isn't the Galactic Federation stolen from Star Trek?

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:33 pm

TruthBringer wrote: So many are sitting back and hoping in a "Rapture" to take them out before they could ever face end time persecution and martyrdom for His name's sake. Yet they have NOT ONE SCRIPTURE TO STAND ON that conclusively declares this expected scenario to be fulfilled!We HAD that one ALREADY! Good lord man, you're repeating yourself.

I'm getting the hang of your posts a bit. If it's short and stuttery and defensive, it's you. If it's long and windy and pontifical, it's a quote.

I do think it's been worth drawing you into conversation. For goodness' sake don't fall back into your juvenile habit of write-only posts. Keep this up. It's what the boards are for.

Spectralcloud · Post by **Spectralcloud** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:33 pm

There will be two standing at the well

One will be taken, The other left

There will be two in One Bed

One will be taken, The other left

Here He speaks of the Spirit being taken up and The Body left

What will look like a death to many, will, in Fact, Be a Rapture of The Spirits of God

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:33 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Folks....that END TIME persecution began in 2005 for the World. It will last until 2012. We are only in the beginning stages of it.

If you can survive these next 6 years, then you can survive anything the World throws at you.

The question may be whether or not we can survive the next 6 pages.

What you are telling us is nothing new.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:33 pm

Not those Time Keepers Koan. lol.

Those are on a different level all-together.

I was referring to the Earth's Time Keepers. The Mayan Indians.

You were referring to the Time Lords....I have read that book as well.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:35 pm

Hear what happened to Chinese believers of Christ, prior to communist takeover in China, who were told by their pastors, "...you have nothing to worry about...before the communists can take over and persecute you, we will be raptured!" Yes, this was commonly taught in China in the churches at that time, as Christ's followers became uneasy over the rise of communism to power. Yet...there was NO "Rapture" to take out the Chinese believers in God when communism came to power. They instead found themselves arrested, imprisoned, tortured for their faith and martyred. And their persecutions and martyrdoms continue to this day. And reports began to come out of China of the Believers cursing their pastors and becoming angry at God because of this!

"Pastor! How could this happen! You said we would be raptured before we would ever be arrested and persecuted! How could you have failed to prepare us! How could God fail us?"

And the reality was, God did not fail them. Christ's words plainly revealed what would come under end time persecution to His people. God fails no one! But sadly, often His pastors DO. And such Pastors then become false prophets to His people. And tragically, God's people often PREFER false prophets in the pulpits of their Churches, whenever the truth is too hard to bear and is something their flesh does not want!

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:37 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Hear what happened to Chinese believers of Christ, prior to communist takeover in China, who were told by their pastors, "...you have nothing to worry about...before the communists can take over and persecute you, we will be raptured!"That'll be another unattributed quote, right? It's so much better to speak for yourself or to say who's words you're using. But that's just my opinion.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:38 pm

TruthBringer wrote:

And the reality was, God did not fail them. Christ's words plainly revealed what would come under end time persecution to His people. God fails no one! But sadly, often His pastors DO. And such Pastors then become false prophets to His people. And tragically, God's people often PREFER false prophets in the pulpits of their Churches, whenever the truth is too hard to bear and is something their flesh does not want!

I've always contended that the problem is not with the message, it's with the messenger.

(I've found the 2012 site by the way. Mind if I read ahead?)

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:39 pm

"DNA upgrades, UFOs, extraterrestrials, the shift to 4th and 5th dimension, the Ascension, the synchronisation of earth with the universe." read all about it.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:40 pm

koan wrote: I've always contended that the problem is not with the message, it's with the messenger.Ah.... then just be careful, we're only 15 messages short of Post 666. I'm not superstitious but I don't want to post it myself.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:41 pm

*ears perk up at mention of Mayas*

Would you care to elaborate on that?