WW3 - New World Order - Pole Shift - Age of Peace (2006-2012)

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:07 pm

Often, "austerity measures" are imposed on nations that have a difficult time repaying their loans. Social programs like health, education or basic food subsidies for the people of the nation are reduced drastically. A recent epidemic of cholera in Latin America is directly related to these "austerity programs" and the reduction of health and sanitary programs carried out by the government. These social evils are a result of ignorance of the true nature of money, it's purpose and it's creation. Honorable leaders of nations would not borrow until their countrymen were in bondage.

Knowledgable leaders would insure that their country controlled the currency rather than international bankers. A national law ought to be passed forbidding Congress from borrowing money. Also, Congress should nationalise the Federal Reserve Bank to regain it's Constitutional authority to mint currency then the borrowing would be unnecessary!

Money is nothing more than a way of keeping score - it has no more intrinsic value than notches on a stick or binary on/off states in a computer memory bank. The productivity of a people is where true wealth lies. Money keeps track of that productivity and allows the facile transfer of that productivity. The central banks that print currency and lend it at interest is the prime culprit. This money that was created from nothing is lent out. But at a later time, the central bankers end up owning the entire productivity of nations. There can be little doubt that foreign debt is the way the international bankers drain the wealth from nations or that the IMF is the greatest legalized racket on the planet.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:20 pm

Presidents Lincoln, Jackson, and Kennedy tried to stop this family of bankers by printing U.S. dollars without charging the taxpayers interest. Today, if the government runs a deficit, the FED prints dollars through the U.S. Treasury, buys the debt, and the dollars are circulated into the economy. In 1992, taxpayers paid the FED banking system $286 billion in interest on debt the FED purchased by printing money virtually cost free. Forty percent of our personal federal income taxes goes to pay this interest. The FED's books are not open to the public.

Congressman Wright Patman was Chairman of the House of Representatives Committee on Banking and Currency for 40 years. For 20 of those years, he introduced legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913.

Congressman Henry Gonzales, Chairman of a banking committee, introduced legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913 nearly every year. It was always defeated, the media remained silent, and the public never learned the truth. The same bankers who own the FED still control the media today and they give huge political contributions to sympathetic members of Congress.

THE FED FEARS THE POPULATION WILL BECOME AWARE OF THIS FRAUD AND DEMAND CHANGE

We, the People, are at fault for being passive and allowing this to continue.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:18 pm

Rep. Louis T. McFadden (R. Pa.) rose from office boy to become cashier and then President of the First National Bank in Canton Ohio. For 12 years he served as Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency, making him one of the foremost financial authorities in America. He fought continuously for fiscal integrity and a return to constitutional government.

The following are portions of Rep. McFadden's speech, quoted from the Congressional Record, pages 12595-12603:

"THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD, A GOVERNMENT BOARD, HAS CHEATED THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OUT OF ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE NATIONAL DEBT."

"The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks acting together have cost this country ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE NATIONAL DEBT SEVERAL TIMES OVER."

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:23 pm

About the Federal Reserve banks, Rep. McFadden said:

"They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; the rich and predatory money lenders. This is an era of economic misery and for the reasons that caused that misery, the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks are fully liable."

On the subject of media control he stated:

"Half a million dollars was spent on one part of the propaganda organized by those same European bankers for the purpose of misleading public opinion in regard to it."

Rep. McFadden continued:

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has USURPED THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. IT CONTROLS EVERYTHING HERE AND IT CONTROLS ALL OUR FOREIGN RELATIONS. IT MAKES AND BREAKS GOVERNMENTS AT WILL."

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:30 pm

Rep. McFadden continued:

"No man and no body of men is more entrenched in power than the arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks. These evil-doers have robbed this country of more than enough money to pay the national debt. What the Government has permitted the Federal Reserve Board to steal from the people should now be restored to the people."

"Our people's money to the extent of $1,200,000,000 has within the last few months been shipped abroad to redeem Federal Reserve Notes and to pay other gambling debts of the traitorous Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks. The greater part of our monetary stock has been shipped to foreigners. Why should we promise to pay the debts of foreigners to foreigners? Why should American Farmers and wage earners add millions of foreigners to the number of their dependents? Why should the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks be permitted to finance our competitors in all parts of the world?"

"The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed and the Federal Reserve banks, having violated their charters, should be liquidated immediately."

"FAITHLESS GOVERNMENT OFFICERS WHO HAVE VIOLATED THEIR OATHS SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND BROUGHT TO TRIAL."

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:42 pm

If the media is unbiased, independent and if they claim to be so thorough, then why haven't they discussed the FED? Currently, half the states have at least a grass roots movement in action to abolish the FED, but there's no press coverage. In July, 1968, the House Banking Subcommittee reported that Rockefeller, through Chase Manhattan Bank, controlled 5.9% of the stock in CBS. Furthermore, the bank had gained interlocking directorates with ABC.

In 1974, Congress issued a report stating that the Chase Manhattan Bank's stake in CBS rose to 14.1% and NBC to 4.5% (through RCA, the parent company of NBC). The same report said that the Chase Manhattan Bank held stock in 28 broadcasting firms. After this report, the Chase Manhattan Bank obtained 6.7% of ABC, and today the percentage could be much greater. It only requires 5% ownership to significantly influence the media. This is only one of the many wealthy shareholders of the FED. It is believed that other FED owners have similar holdings in the media. To control the media, FED bankers can easily call in their loans if the media disagrees with them.

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), has as it's sole purpose the aiding in stimulating greater interest in foreign affairs and in a One World Government. Many major newscasters belong to the Council on Foreign Relations. The Council on Foreign Relations controls many major newspapers and magazines. Additionally, major corporations owned by FED shareholders are the source of huge advertising revenues which surely would influence the media. It can be no wonder why groups such as FED-UP(tm) receive minimal, if any, press attention.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:31 pm

How do taxpayers stop financing those whose purpose it is to destroy us? First, expose their activity, then demand change.

According to the Constitution, Congress is to control the creation of money, keeping the amount of inflation or deflation in check. If Congress isn't doing their job, they should be voted out of office. Unfortunately, voters can't vote the FED or its Chairman out of office.

If the government has a deficit, we could handle it as Lincoln and Kennedy did. Print money and circulate it into the economy, but this time interest-free. Today the FED, through foreign banks, owns much of our debt and therefore controls us.

By Congress allowing the constitutionally illegal FED to continue, much of your taxes go to the shareholders of the FED and their bankers. The people who enacted the FED started the IRS, within months of the FED's inception. The FED buys U.S. debt with money they printed from nothing, then charges the U.S. taxpayers interest. The government had to create income tax to pay the interest expense to the FED's shareholders, but the income tax was never legally passed.

The FED is illegal, per Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:50 pm

In IRS jury trials, the jury, by law, must decide if the law is just. If taxpayers do not believe the law is just, the jury may declare the accused innocent. Judges are legally bound to inform juries of their right to determine the fairness of a law. Judges often do not disclose this information so they can control the court outcome. Luckily, more and more citizens are becoming informed. If one juror feels the law is unfair, they can find the defendant innocent.

If we eliminate the FED and uphold the Constitution, we could balance the budget and cut personal income tax to almost nothing. In Congressional hearings on September 30, 1941, FED Chairman Eccles basicly admitted that the FED creates new money from thin air (printing press), and loans it back to us at interest. On June 6, 1960, FED President Mr. Allen admitted essentially the same thing. If you or I did this we would go to jail.

It is time to abolish the FED! Tell your friends the truth and win America back. We don't even need to buy back the FED. We only need to print money the way the Constitution requires, not the new proposed international money. We need to keep our sovereignty and print real U.S. money.

Spectralcloud · Post by **Spectralcloud** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:18 pm

Uh Truthbringer - Don't you get it

They don't want the Truth

Why are you wasting your valuable Words, Time . and Ethereal Energy on Rocks?

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:23 pm

Spectralcloud wrote: Uh Truthbringer - Don't you get it

They don't want the Truth

Why are you wasting your valuable Words, Time . and Ethereal Energy on Rocks?
Uhh....Spectra? What's this mean exactly? Are you calling us rocks? Is that bad or good???

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:23 am

I'm a diamond in the rough...............................

Spectralcloud · Post by **Spectralcloud** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:12 pm

BabyRider

It was A Rock

That Brought Down

Goliath

And They were Rocks

What Killed Steven

And The Rocks Sisyphus

Pushed Up and Down

That Stationary Hill

Take your Pick

But All I See is Heads Bashing

Somewhere on A Hill Far Away

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:17 pm

Spectralcloud wrote:

BabyRider

It was A Rock

That Brought Down

Goliath

And They were Rocks

What Killed Steven

And The Rocks Sisyphus

Pushed Up and Down

That Stationary Hill

Take your Pick

But All I See is Heads Bashing

Somewhere on A Hill Far Away

'Kay..... :yh_think .....whatever that is supposed to mean....

So, Spectra...are you calling us rocks? Is that bad or good???

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:03 pm

Hmmn, very interesting. So China is going to invade eastern Europe? Well, they will have a long walk to get there, and there will be a few people to fight along teh way, but mostly russians (for about 10,000 km). I don't we need psychics to predict that there is going to be a lot of continuing conflict in the middle east and the persian gulf area for the next decade, especially is iran persists in developing a nuclear bomb, though I would hold back on any prophecies of rapture, and yes Iran is a large country, but its economy is rubbish and its army couldn't beat Iraq during the whole course of the Iran/Iraq war, the same army that was defeated twice by the U.S. and its allies in both gulf wars in about 19 minutes. (not that I think the invasion of Iraq was the greatest idea in the world).

In fact one of the reasons the iranians are trying to develop a bomb is precisely because they know that they are not going to be in a position to go to war with anyone, let alone the U.S. and they see having a bomb as security for them, and a threat to people they dont like, (they are not that popular with their neighbours or their own people either for that matter. I think they are making a very stupid move that will lead them into war, but thats their problem, they don't seem too concerned about it. As for Syria, thats an even weaker country than iran militarily and politically, its why they use Hezbollah to hit the Israelis because they wouldn't be up for fighting Israel again, let alone the U.S. or anyone else, I'm not a big advocate of the current American policy in the middle east, but I'm not a great fan of the regiemes that are in place or the islamic radicals who want to step in and replace them either. In general the place (as usual) is a mess and Iran seem hell bent on making it worse, its all a bit depressing really, but ever was it thus I suppose.

koan · Post by **koan** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:08 pm

You've taken on the torch of logic. It cannot shine through this thread unless passed from hand to hand. Bear it proudly.

Since it's all turned to poetry I offer this to feed the flames of said torch:

Close your eyes, give me your hand, darling

Do you feel my heart beating

Do you understand

Do you feel the same

Am I only dreaming

Is this burning an eternal flame

I believe it's meant to be, darling

I watch you when you are sleeping

You belong with me

Do you feel the same

Am I only dreaming

Or is this burning an eternal flame

Say my name

sun shines through the rain

A whole life so lonely

And then you come and ease the pain

I don't want to lose this feeling

Say my name

sun shines through the rain

A whole life so lonely

And then you come and ease the pain

I don't want to lose this feeling

Close your eyes, give me your hand, darling

Do you feel my heart beating

Do you understand

Do you feel the same

Am I only dreaming

But is this burning an eternal flame

(note: punctuation is not my own...there are at least a few questions in there)

LOCO_01 · Post by **LOCO_01** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:10 pm

ww3 is gonna start soon look wats happinin in the middle east right now

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:07 am

i finjd many of the points made by truth guy to be just a rehash of old news. if you think the middle east is the major problem now, you'd probably be right, but who is the one bringing this all about. bush? a russian? an iraqi? an arab not yet known? watch the film about the 9-11 incident by that producer guy. it's called Farenheit 9-11. much of what is happening in todays political arena can be understood if you can put a name to the single one person who came into his own in the mid 1980's with the beginning of the intifada or whatever the arab uprising was called. he has kept himself well hidden and remains so. soon, however he will come forth as a eacemaker for the middle east and will be accepted as such, by both israel and the arab community as a whole. he is not as well hidden as so,me think, however for I knew of him when I saw his first act and the time he received his first cxrown and received hios power from the dragon, which is not china, but the arab terrorist network membership. he is not osama, but he is a saudi arab. as for china, it shall move south and west in the final threew years, while russia will soon begin to align itself with the us more and more. what is happening now is the preamble for the peace which the predictive elemnts allude to, but never become specific about. as for the control of people goes, who controls the nation's finances more than anything? the arab, and many of the politicians know it and are involved in it. the muslim religion is going to spread across europe and northern africa, and the military attack on the us will come from the south, but will be stoppedc at the red. then it will be pushed back across the waters to north africa and europe despite the huge enemy forces arrayed against the western hemisphere. beware, however, the last pope. when the pope is killed, the end of peace arrives, and a thermonuclear device will be the sign that the thiurd world war has begun. believe or disbelieve. but watch even more the next few months.:-4 :-4 :-4

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:47 am

Interesting thread to which I say we are our own worst enemies, always have been always will be..

I will be 59 in September so I have seen enough of war to know that it will always be as well. It has been since the dawn of Mankind, why because that is what we do best kill each other off to make room for more of our kind until we are no more. Some countries are more peaceful than other but for the most part we are "WARING" spiecies period ... KILL AND CONQUER

War is War there are no winners on either side just survivors..

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:08 pm

men fight not for right or wrong, but for the glory of those who tell them to die. I too, am one who knows war up close and personal. if politicians were to be the first in, war wouldn't exist since they'd be the first to get killed. then the war would have no further purpose. and we could all go home and have a beer, eat some pretzels and get laid.:-4 :-4 :-4

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:16 pm

I like the way you think Charles-r51 so true put the politician and their son on the frontline and thing would stop real quick..

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:58 pm

First I just want to remind myself as well as all of you....that these sick bastards (The Controllers) are getting exactly what they want out of this possible beginning of World War 3 in the Middle East.

You see.....when you fund both sides of the situation...for one reason and one reason only...which is to create a war that will be so bloody and atrocious, that when even the biggest fans of war will eventually become digusted by it....that they are hoping that the people of the World will accept their New World Order. Or in other words, slavery under a single World Government. A Government which essentially, "Controls the World".

That is their aim here folks! Can we not see it? These people want to introduce their New World Order so badly, that they are willing to do it at whatever cost. Even it if means sitting back and watching as little kids sucking their thumbs are killed outright by bombs in their sleep!!

And you may be asking yourself, "Well, what are we supposed to do about all this?"

As crazy as this sounds....doing what they want you to do by asking for a One World Government which controlls all nations is the worst thing you could ever ask for as a Human Being.

I know...it sounds strange to say that. The only apparent solution to this whole problem...."World peace under a one World Government"....is exactly what they were hoping we would let them spoonfeed us.

But no. It's a mistake. It's what they want. It's what they hope for. This problem can be solved in many other ways. REMEMBER THAT. One World Government will not be the only solution. And allowing their creation (World War 3) to go into full motion, and then to come back to bite them all in the ass, is a better solution than what they all have planned for us.

I will quote this person David Rockefeller one more time for you guys....to allow his words to sink right into your heads.

David Rockefeller:

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

Folks...this is what they have been waiting for. They are ALLOWING IT TO HAPPEN WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING ON THEIR OWN TO PREVENT IT. ONLY WHEN WE SHOUT "STOP THE KILLING!" "STOP THE WAR!" "STOP ALL THIS VIOLENCE AND DESTRUCTION!", only then will they act. But it won't be because they give one ounce of a damn about our feelings, it will be because they had a pre-planned solution awaiting us......which is complete and utter SLAVERY under their proposed New World Order Agenda.

Are you gonna fall for their B-****? I hope not. How about your friends? Are they going to fall for it and accept their NWO? For all of our sakes....we ALL better hope not. Because if Humanity hands the power of every nation over to these bastards than we will all go down at once. And they will literally almost control EVERYTHING!!!! Including the power of printing the World's money, the power of taxing the World's civilizations, the power of getting to say who goes to jail and who doesn't....the power of choosing which religion they will force upon us....the power of the Devil!!

DON'T FALL FOR IT. DON'T LET THEM DICTATE THE OUTCOMES ANYMORE! STAND TOGETHER. AS ONE HUMANITY. AND START CREATING THEM FOR YOURSELVES!

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:18 pm

i've been reading the patriot act 2 of 2003. it is a recipe for dictatorship here, now, not some time in the future. it can be downloaded from infowars.com. it's a really scary document, which is the law of the land, now, thanks to george and company. if you haven't read it, do so.:-4 :-4 :-4

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:11 pm

These people "The Controllers" are obsessed with Order.

They want to introduce their New World Order so badly, that they are willing to create Chaos in order to make sure that it gets established.

What these people really despise is Chaos though. They only use it to restore their power over the people when things get out of hand.

When people are allowed to think for themselves, and to speak freely and act however they want to, that allows for chaotic behavior. The "Controllers" hate chaotic behavior. They want everything and everyone to be Controlled and to be put into Order.

Whats going on right now in the Middle East is a perfect example of how they operate. They are going to create their "Order of out Chaos" process over there. Right now things are chaotic over there. But what they plan to have is an Obedient Middle East when this great War is all over. Thats right. A completely Obedient Middle East under their New World Order. This is what they are hoping for. And they will spend however much money they need to and allow for hundreds of thousand of people to die in the process. As long as it results in Order at the end of it all.

Thats how sick this whole thing is going to be if we allow them to implement the NWO.

It means that freedoms and liberties will mean nothing. The only thing that will matter to these bastards is that the World is controlled in an "Orderly" fashion.

These people don't think like your every day common criminal. They don't operate sporaticly or chaoticly. They are so obsessed with Order that they even implement their strategies in an orderly way, by executing major events on certain days of the year. The days of which are symbolic and meaningful only to the Controllers.

These people are Satanic in nature. They are ritualistic to a fault. They sometimes wait years to kill a person and plan the entire thing out so that it fits in with their rituals and that it's all done in Order.

Ultimately, Bush doesn't give a damn about "freedom" and "liberty" like he says he does on TV. No....what he cares about is Order. And that goes for the rest of the "Controllers" who belong to these sick Satanic societies and who operate behind the scenes in extremely powerful positions around the World so that they can all make sure that when the time is right, they will declare Martial Law on the citizens of the World, and Implement their New World Order accordingly.

It's so simple how they operate. But it amazes me how many people haven't figured out their motives yet. And how many people are still blind to the fact that there is no such thing as coincidence. And that everything happens for a reason. And that whenever money is the power source behind something, such as a major war or conflict, that it can always be traced back somewhere...and I guarantee you...that in all cases of wars that we have had within the last few centuries, that when you trace the money behind them back to it's original roots, you will find the trail that leads directly back to these Controllers.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:36 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Whats going on right now in the Middle East is a perfect example of how they operate. They are going to create their "Order of out Chaos" process over there. Right now things are chaotic over there. But what they plan to have is an Obedient Middle East when this great War is all over. Thats right. A completely Obedient Middle East under their New World Order. This is what they are hoping for. And they will spend however much money they need to and allow for hundreds of thousand of people to die in the process. As long as it results in Order at the end of it all.

And then, of course, they will concentrate on all those Christians. Like you said before.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:37 pm

Jaysus, you're doing a lot of predictions here, any chance one of the clairvoyants have "sensed" whose going to win the English F.A. premiership in the 06/07 season, if Aston Villa are in with a shout let me know, unless the new world order ban soccer in favour of more evil sports of course.

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:16 pm

:-5 order isn't what they want, but control is. there is a major difference. order implies that things will be one by one, but that is not what is happening. the establishishment of control is much more important due to the necessity of keeping peolpe in line, not letting them think they can do anything, and preserving the status qou in the power structure through political appointments based on willingness to do whatever maintains things as they are. the only way this can be achieved is to establish a single political entity which will change and enforce those changes to prevent tha asking of questions that could expose the man behind it. remember money can buy anything and anyone if those who have it want to do so. with that, power becomes a commodity that is doled out only to those who will do as they are told, when they are told to do it, and how they are to do it. and one of the most important things to do is to create instability in a region that will be easily manipulated due to a campaign of mis-information, dis-information, and out and out lying, as well as pushing for more instability from time to time through activities designed to create an unstable region. and now iran is calling for nuclear acts in many places so as to create an eventual, platform for the political takeover of the entire arab world.:-4 :-4 :-4

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:54 pm

koan wrote: And then, of course, they will concentrate on all those Christians. Like you said before.

Christians are going to be persecuted. Christ said so Himself.

I don't understand exactly how the NWO conspirators plan on doing this. But I assume it will be by outlawing certain things that Christians are currently able to do. And by putting more and more restrictions on Christians and their practices. Until Christians begin to get angry. and Start to "rise up" against the oppression.

Then I have the idea that the Government will crack down on them, The NWO Government that is, with full force, and possible jail sentences and or worse will be the result.

These are possibilites that I have been considering. But of course there is always room for more.

Anyone care to share some of their own theories on this subject?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:57 pm

sixyearsleft wrote: The Phantom plot is here!

Now tell me TB, what liberties are for the chopping block?

which country will they choose? the trump card is nearly apon us,

Sirea or Iran............................. ?

The chopping of liberties is already in practice my friend. Do a little research and you may be surprised at what you find.

Check into the REAL ID act.

Check into some other things.

They are already cracking the whip. It's just that they have been hitting us with it "lightly" so to speak.

Just wait until they decide to go all out. It won't be pritty for anybody who becomes a slave to their agenda.

koan · Post by **koan** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:25 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Christians are going to be persecuted. Christ said so Himself.

I don't understand exactly how the NWO conspirators plan on doing this. But I assume it will be by outlawing certain things that Christians are currently able to do. And by putting more and more restrictions on Christians and their practices. Until Christians begin to get angry. and Start to "rise up" against the oppression.

Then I have the idea that the Government will crack down on them, The NWO Government that is, with full force, and possible jail sentences and or worse will be the result.

These are possibilites that I have been considering. But of course there is always room for more.

Anyone care to share some of their own theories on this subject?
Why, yes. I would like to share.

I think they are going to help the Jews and Arabs kill each other then, when the Christians are feeling safe and pointing their binoculars at Jerusalem, the Buddhists will break their non violent pattern and nuke everyone. Then, when the destroyed land is habitable again, they will plant boddhi trees all over the world and sit under them with their children telling fables about the three blind religions that all were touching a different part of God and fighting about what God really looked like.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:38 am

Yes, yes, but will we still be allowed to watch the football? That might not seem important, but for us Villa fans its vital that they don't outlaw the game before we at least win the Milk Cup, come on, I need some predictions here.

BTW, just wondering who are the elite that are "ahem" masterminding all this malarky? Is it the white right ring ultra-conservative uber-menschen, or is it the Buddist literati? Or is it the vatican, there are always in on things aren't they, are the Aliens involved? What are the plans for Ireland, are we included, or will our little Island become a testing ground for new alcohol-related weapons development? Just wondering?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:10 am

What ? worse than Guinness ?

Arnold, you have obviously never had Tetley's finest ale if you think guinness is bad. Actually I've just been informed that Irish scientists are as we speak developing a new turnip-based ethanolic drink that can bring a civilization from complete world domination to lying around in skips and eating flies in about 2 weeks, impressive eh? Maybe there is something in this WW III, NWO, EU-NATO, armageddeon craic than we first thought? Then again, based in looking at events without being on psychotropic compounds, its probably a load of pants.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:50 pm

My experience has always been that for some reason, people turn a blind eye to this entire NWO situation because they figure as long as they got their cars, their girls, their money in their wallets, and their families to come home to, that whatever else thats going on in the World really doesn't matter. As long as it's not happening anywhere near them or their neighborhood of course.

It's a big joke. Really. Too many people buy into the concept that, if you believe that Life is peachy, then it's peachy.

Perception does help to create a state of reality, yes, but it does not affect others around you or the World for that matter. It only affects the individual.

So it doesn't matter if we have 50 rich people coming home every night to their cozy beds after a nice little party and talking about how blessed they are and how happy their lives are, because while those people are doing that, there are 50 people in other parts of the World who are sleeping on the cement wondering why there were abandoned by those who should have been there for them while they rummage through trashcans and try to keep their 1 set of clothes from smelling too bad that nobody wants them around.

Individual reality only goes as far as the individual. But the collective, WORLD reality at the moment, is that there is something very destructive and sinister playing out right now, that is going to affect EVERYBODY, regardless of what state of reality they have created for themselves, and regardless of how safe and secure they feel at the moment.

It's ok to enjoy life and create a reality of peace and prosperity for yourself. It is completely wrong however to ignore the rest of the World and the people around you just because they don't fit into your illusion.

If we don't start caring about eachother NOW, right NOW, and start telling people like President Bush to stop talking so damn much about making the Middle East a better place, and start focusing on our own ****** country and the problems we have RIGHT HERE AT HOME, then we become utter fools who fall victim to our own traps.

Just once, I want to see President Bush get on tv and address the homeless situation in this country. And to show solid proof that he and his administration are doing something to solve the problem.

Just once, I would like to see President Bush get on tv and talk about the problems in Africa, where kids (black kids mainly), are dying everyday with their stomachs puffed out and their ribs sucked in. While their parents have to watch and are helpless to save them. I want to hear President Bush get on tv and show that he has some balls and that he cares about those people and I want him to do it NOW. Not later. NOW!!!!!!!!!!

I am so pissed off at how many people including myself sometimes worry more about what kind of food I'm going to eat today than I do about my fellow brothers and sisters dying all over the World. If Bush wants to claim that he cares about the people of this World, and that he wants to take care of his fellow Americans and keep them safe, then I want him to ****** prove it! He's a liar! A bold faced liar! He has the World's attention focused on the Middle East for a reason. He has blinded us all to the reality of our own situation here at home. It's all part of their agenda. Don't fall for it. Don't ever fall for it. If you allow for people to put fear into your body, by telling you that you are "unsafe", and that they have the answer to the problem for you, then you have become your own fool. Because you are NEVER 100% safe. People are dying everyday! Everywhere! For different reasons! 99% of which is not Terrorism!

People who are asleep! Wake the F-ck up!

This is not a game. We are not puppets.

Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:58 pm

You might be contributing to the lack of attention when you say

TruthBringer wrote: If we don't start caring about eachother NOW, right NOW, and start telling people like President Bush to stop talking so damn much about making the Middle East a better place, and start focusing on our own ****** country and the problems we have RIGHT HERE AT HOME, then we become utter fools who fall victim to our own traps.

and then contradict yourself by saying

TruthBringer wrote: Just once, I would like to see President Bush get on tv and talk about the problems in Africa, where kids (black kids mainly), are dying everyday with their stomachs puffed out and their ribs sucked in. While their parents have to watch and are helpless to save them. I want to hear President Bush get on tv and show that he has some balls and that he cares about those people and I want him to do it NOW. Not later. NOW!!!!!!!!!!

The problem is not in saying something definitive, it is with saying something consistent. A lesson both you and Bush have yet to learn.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:32 pm

There is no contradiction.

He says almost nothing about anything except the Middle East!

My point being twofold.

There are other MORE IMPORTANT things going on in the World at the moment....especially here at home.

There are other countries where people are dying on a much MUCH MUCH higher scale than they are in the Middle East. And with greater regularity.

Bush, apparently, doesn't give a ****.

Whats the contradiction?

PS - I never typed the words "Bush should care about nothing except for America". So the lack of attention just might have been on your part. That may have been how you peceived it. But those words are nowhere to be found.

Perhaps we all have a little something to learn eh Koan?

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:18 pm

nice attempt at recovery.

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:53 pm

truthbringer. are you not aware that the conditions for a new world order aree being met, not just by those bringing it to us, but with bush being the bought and paid for delivery boy? what do you expect from someone who cares more about appeasing his master in the muddle east? and i'm not referring to israel, but his true master the one who came to power in 1985. his daddy is in cahoots, as are most of the others who want to remain on top of the heap. they will provide just enough to keep us from getting to close to identifying the most dangerous arab the world has ever known, let alone how he plans to break this country, and many others before coming out with his peace proposals which nearly everyone will accept, just before he tries to gain absolute control. it won't work, not because he won't try but because time will run out on him before he can complete his plan. and no, it should not be assumed he will be successful because the earth will move out from under his feet, literally. even now, the earth is moving more and more. before his full plan can be implemented, the polar shift will occur and he will be in a very awkward position of not having an answer to what is happening. though he has already gained four or five crowns, and the three heads without crowns, he is rapidly running out of time to accomplish what he is trying to do. and bush isn't helping. rather bush is an impediment due to his refusal to deal with the democrat's concerns. had he done so, it could have been to his advantage, now it will cause his leader some concerns if the dems take back either or both houses. it may even cause the arab to rush forward with his plan, causing it to be discovered that much sooner. we shall see. watch the middle east for more unrest within the next few months, because it is of great need to the arab to keep the area unsettled. don't worry, the one who will see the need to act will be ready at his appointed time, about 2010.:-4 :-4 :-4 :-4

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:25 am

The blood line of family bankers who own the FED funded both sides of all major wars during the last few centuries. They created fake colonial money to destroy the Americans during the Revolutionary War and tried to finance both sides in the American Civil War. Abraham Lincoln refused and the South accepted. Many publications show that these bankers financed World War I, World War II, and the Russian Revolutionary War, which helped Napoleon, Lenin, and Hitler come to power.

They even financed both sides from money created from nothing and profited greatly. These same bankers created a number of American depressions to change the U.S. legislation and seize our wealth.This is why our forefathers wrote in the Constitution that only Congress can issue money - not private banks.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:25 am

More wars create more debt which means more profit to the bankers. These bankers have planned for three world wars so that people would finally welcome the United Nations intervention to govern the world in peace, not war. We have already fallen for two of their World Wars, and another one looms just around the corner! The choice is up to us.

The banks have publicly announced they will eventually force us into a cashless society. Furthermore, they plan to create a one world government through the United Nations headed by the FED, Trilaterals, and the Council on Foreign Relations. By the definition of treason, they have committed treason! This means you lose your rights under the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Does this sound far fetched? Twenty-four U.S. Senators (two of them presidential candidates, Harkin & Tsongas) and 80 Representatives have signed a "Declaration of Interdependence." This Declaration, designed to make a one world government, is treason to the oath of office they took. The media remained silent. The FED announced publicly that their first objective was to get nationalism out of the American people's heads because patriotism to a country would not be of value in the future.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:26 am

The media makes us think the U.N. has all the answers, and to "think globally." Congress passed a law stopping certain individuals from being tried for this treason. Why pass this law if no treason was committed?

State Department document 7277 calls for the disarming of America, thus turning our sovereignty over to a one-world government. Again, the media is pushing to eliminate guns. Our forefathers believed that the right to bear arms would prevent a takeover of our government. History shows that before any government took over, they disarmed the citizens. Hitler did it, and before our Revolutionary War, King George told us to disarm - good thing we didn't!

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:27 am

Under the Federal Reserve Bank Act, the bankers control our economy. The FED controls interest rates and the amount of money in the economy. These factors determine either economic prosperity or the lack thereof.

Bankers are now pushing for a one world government and a cashless society. Why cashless? No cash means no money for drugs, no theft, and the ability to collect taxes on the underground economy. Anyone who wouldn't support a cashless society must be a drug dealer, thief, or tax evader, right? What a cashless society really means is that the banks can now control you.

Today you may fear the IRS. In a cashless society, if you disagree with the bankers' political goals, you might just find your money gone via a computer error.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:28 am

If you could accurately predict future interest rates, inflation and deflation, you would know when to buy or sell stocks and make a bundle of money. The FED has secret meetings (per Congressional Record) to determine future interest rates and the amount of money to be printed.

The Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) by law, stops insiders from profiting by privileged information. Congressional records prove that FED bankers routinely hold secret meetings to profit by manipulating the stock market via interest rates and the amount of money they create. FED bankers also profit greatly from economic disasters like the Depression.

The bankers create inflation, sell their stocks before the market crashes, then buy up stocks at cheaper prices. Bankers admitted this to Congress. This violates the law, yet Congress does not act because these bankers are large political contributors.

Thomas Jefferson predicted this scenario if we ever allowed a private bank, like the FED, to create our currency.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:30 am

FED Chairman Burns once stated that, "A killing can be made simply by knowing the next few months newspapers ahead of time."

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:31 am

Section 7 of the Federal Reserve Act, passed December 23, 1913, states that much of the profit of the FED should flow into the U.S. Treasury. In 1959, new legislation allowed the FED to transfer bonds to commercial banks at no cost to the bank. Now the FED receives less interest income and less profit for the U.S. Treasury because the money is diverted to other banks through an accounting entry.

Congress and the IRS do not have access to the financial records of the FED. Every year Congress introduces legislation to audit the FED, and every year it is defeated. The FED banking system could easily be netting 100s of billions in profit each year. Through "creative accounting" - profit can easily be reclassified as expense.

Within the first few years, the shareholders of the FED received their initial investment back with no risk. All the income is tax-free, except for property tax, according to the Federal Reserve Act. When are the profits of the FED going to start flowing into the Treasury so that average Americans are no longer burdened with excessive and unnecessary taxes?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:33 am

By abolishing the FED, we would not pay interest on Federal Reserve Notes. Until it is abolished, the FED has a monopoly on profit on our currency and whether our money supply will be increased or decreased, inflation or depression. The banks are capable of controlling business by controlling who can or cannot obtain a loan.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:34 am

"Allow me to control the issue and the nation's money and I care not who makes its laws!"

The above quote has long been attributed to the 18th century banker Amshell Rothschild (his blood line also controls the FED).

For if one unscrupulous group is allowed to print a nation's money - it can eventually use that money to gain control of the press AND the politicians - and thus gain control of making the nation's laws - and finally - control of the nation itself.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:36 am

So now you know that in 1921 the stockholders of the Federal Reserve financed an organization called the "Council on Foreign Relations" (CFR). Harpers magazine called this the most powerful organization in the United States.

Ninety percent of the people in the State Department and key positions in the Executive Branch are members of the CFR. The CFR publishes a magazine called "Foreign Affairs." Read it if you want to know more about what is going to happen in the coming years. The CFR is in favor of a New World Order.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:37 am

Congressman John R. Rarick states that the Council on Foreign Relations CFR) is dedicated to a one world government. The media remains conspicuously quiet. The CFR wants to convert the U.S. from a sovereign, constitutional republic into a servile member state of a one world dictatorship.

On February 17, 1950, CFR member James Warburg (banker, and architect of the Federal Reserve System) stated before a Senate Foreign Relations Committee, "We shall have one world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Again, the media remained silent.

In the April 1974 issue of the CFR journal, "Foreign Affairs", page 558, Richard Gardener states that the new world order "will be built... but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault."

Congressman McDonald, Heinz and Tower stated that this is a conspiracy. Again, the media remained silent.

THE CFR WANTS TO ABOLISH THE CONSTITUTION. WE MUST STOP THEM!!