SnoozeControl wrote: Must be something big if it shuts even the gulls up.
Believe it or not, we actually have seagulls here in Utah. I was very surprised by that, but the little dickens must've migrated inland, which is quite a long haul from the Pacific Ocean. It's always nice to see them though, it reminds me of California.
Nice to see them!!

Rats on wings, they are evil! Although I have to say it is 'man' that has made them this way. You cannot walk along our streets any more with food in your hands, the gulls will swoop down and steal it out of your hand.