Can BTS come back?

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:37 pm

I just wanted to know..............

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:44 pm

Can LC com back also?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:55 pm

I like them both, but put them in a thread together and watch the fireworks!

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:06 pm

Pinky wrote: I'd like it if they both did from what I've read of their posts.

I'd like to see them both come back and do battle........or not....................

BBBWWWAAAAHAHAHA

I think is very healthy.........rebuttal

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:15 pm

BTS and LC in the same sentence is dangerous.

If BTS gets to come back then LC should as well...

I miss LC here everyday..:-4

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:16 pm

Yes Id like to see this happen very much.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:21 pm

I've been gone so long I didn't even know they were gone! I always liked LC, didn't know BTS that much but never had any probs. Shame the way these things go, but I guess there were reasons, not that I have a clue what they were. Does that mean bothwell is gone as well, oh well.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:27 pm

Yes Galbally Bothwell is gone as well. I talk to LC often so I can say Bothwell is well and soon to be in the UNITED STATES and Living with LC. :-4

Clancy you make me cry thinking about LC and all the great times we had when she was here...:-1

Both BTS and LC are bold personalities and I liken there arguments to the conflict in the middle east, neverending and without a resolution..:-5

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:47 pm

Pinky wrote: I got one blanket off? I haven't even got one on - too bloody hot!:D
*Re-checking connections to that bloody internet cam*

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:58 pm

LC used to accuse me of trying to ruin her life. :wah: That was fun.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:01 pm

Oooookay. Moving to another thread. 'Night!

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:03 pm

Pinky wrote: I bet you never called her something horrible though?

No. I love her. Still talk to her.

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:26 pm

Pinky wrote: Don't worry Acc, I don't have a cam - you won't go blind tonight!!!!

I'd like to retract what I said earlier - anyone who calls one of my friends a C**T is not going to get a good reception from me. More like an Arse kicking.
It's not one of my favorite words but he was called a lot of names also. He was pushed and pushed back.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:10 pm

He got as good as he gave. LC was no better or worse, when it came to heated debate.

Personally, I'd like to see 'em both back, but be prepared for more, um, excitement.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:26 am

Perhaps someone will pm me with a link to the articles that resulted in these bans. I've no idea what went on.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:43 am

Clancy wrote: It might not be popular with some perhaps, but I miss her a lot. :yh_flower

Same here..... :-6

theia · Post by **theia** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:25 am

Bez wrote:

Same here..... :-6

And here

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:32 am

i dident get the impression from lady cop that she wanted to come back, last time i spoke to her, has that changed?

anyway sorry nval i got sidetracked, i dident know BTS, does he want to come back?

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:42 am

Remember if you allow one perviously banned member back, you have to allow them all back, so those of you who were happy to see someone get banned think twice about what it would be like if they returned. I speak of everyone in general no specifics.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:47 am

minks wrote: Remember if you allow one perviously banned member back, you have to allow them all back, so those of you who were happy to see someone get banned think twice about what it would be like if they returned. I speak of everyone in general no specifics.

Why ? If this were my forum (and it is) I could do as I saw fit on an individual basis. LC yes....Chives yes (every forum needs a Chives) Moverguy no.

Done !

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:50 am

SnoozeControl wrote: What happened to that ChiptBeef guy?

I ate him with toast

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:01 am

Nomad wrote: Why ? If this were my forum (and it is) I could do as I saw fit on an individual basis. LC yes....Chives yes (every forum needs a Chives) Moverguy no.

Done !

Good point, and I would hope with the re-instatement of past banned members you (if you owned the forum) take into consideration the folks who do not want to see certain members back. Again understand I am not taking sides or saying who I think should and should not come back ok. Every banned person had friends and enemies I would hope both would be allowed the freedom to express their opinions. A petition to bring back someone is a nice idea, but perhaps an annonymous poll would be better this would allow everyone the chance to vote. Does that sound right without sounding mean.? I mean there is always 2 sides to every story and maybe not all FG members know both sides of why a banning took place, I would like to think Admin made a fair and accurate call on each and every member they banned.

I just think we should be prepared for some "chatter" if we start bringing members back. Both good and bad.

Post by **spot** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:04 am

By all means make it an anonymous poll, minks. We could have a set of anonymous polls for proposed returns from exile and a set of anonymous polls for proposed bans, to be balanced.

Now you need to decide what proportion of votes would get someone banned or unbanned. 50% for either? 66%?

The tradition in london clubs was that nobody got in if they were blackballed by any existing member, and nobody left by any method except death or resignation. Or any two members. It empowered the membership, you see.

Whatever it takes to ban someone should be what it takes to get someone returned.

We could even have an anonymous poll to test what the proportion for banning and unbanning should be set at.

over 90% voting in favour

over 80% voting in favour

over 70% voting in favour

over 60% voting in favour

over 50% voting in favour

over 40% voting in favour

over 30% voting in favour

over 20% voting in favour

over 10% voting in favour

and count from the bottom til you get a majority agreement.

I'm sure the correct answer is to leave the mechanism in the hands of Admin, myself - a totally autocratic and unobservable process, like death.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:07 am

The Tar Pit is always visible to public gaze, every new post is up on the index like any other thread to read.

I think it should not do that, but really be invisible.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:17 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Why does every forum need a Chives?

A Chives gives us something to ponder

An anomaly, a riddle, a puzzlement, a chance to debate the higher aspects of life, such as what is real what is not ?

A chives provides us with an opportunity to explore the surreal, the amazing and the preposterous and irrational wonderment that is his mind.

It gives us a chance to play sleuth and go slithering about in search of the real truth.

So many possibilities, so little time.

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:03 pm

chonsigirl wrote: The Tar Pit is always visible to public gaze, every new post is up on the index like any other thread to read.

I think it should not do that, but really be invisible.

thanks for that heads-up. the tar pit should not be visible on the top menu. i'll go check that out.

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:13 pm

Tombstone wrote: thanks for that heads-up. the tar pit should not be visible on the top menu. i'll go check that out.

Looked like it was showing up on "recent posts" on the main index. Fixed!

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:42 pm

Thanks for the fix, TStone :-6

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:43 pm

Tombstone wrote: Looked like it was showing up on "recent posts" on the main index. Fixed!
Thank you, Tombstone!:)

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:25 pm

I have had to physically restrain myself from posting in this thread, until now. Sat on my hands, as it were. I think Tombstone's response here has given us the answer we were asking for: It is up to him, and him only who comes back, if anyone, and he is not about to discuss it with us. People are acting like this is a democracy, when it's not. All the polls, anonymous or otherwise, will not change that fact. Like has been stated before, admin does not ban lightly here, and I would find it highly surprising if they would go back on such a tough decision and re-open the doors of FG to the members they had previously shown those doors.

cars · Post by **cars** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:26 pm

If BTS & LC were really serious about returning to the Garden, they could always PM Admin. Saying they have learned their lesson that breaking the Gardens rules continuosly, got them banned. And if reinstated in the Garden, they now promised (again) to mend their ways. If BTS & LC are able to convince Admin they are absolutely serious this time, maybe Admin will put it out to the Garden as an accept/rejectpoll. (anonoymous of course)