Stereotyping.

[minks]

A lot of this behavior comes from a few generations back where in Canada and the USA we were made up of mostly "whites" and we didn't know anything about other nations. And we saw natives as a small step up from savages as that is how they were portrayed to us in fiction, entertainment and education. It is called ignorance, that generation didn't know any different. It grew from there and has become a matter of greater ignorance and stupid intolerance and lack of trying to educate ones self and understand the differences of other cultures.

[LottomagicZ4941]

I had a college professor who claimed stereotypes persist because they are 85% accurate.

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AKA Zrocker

[minks]

LottomagicZ4941 wrote: I had a college professor who claimed stereotypes persist because they are 85% accurate.

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AKA Zrocker


Oiy If I ever met that person I would have to slap them

[valerie]

I don't know as I'd go along with the 85% but I DO think that is how

stereotypes get started. It's people's experience with a certain thing.

For instance, say a lot of people think their Hondas are GREAT cars,

well then consumer feedback becomes a "stereotype" and more and

more people buy them because of the people that have "gone before"

and created the stereotype.



Gets really, really dicey though, when you are talking about race.

That, I think we would all do best to try and avoid...



:yh_think

[LottomagicZ4941]

When it comes to race I like to think there is just one race.

The Human race.

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[Paula]

I say just be yourself no matter what, you learn life as you go. In twenty years from now you will have lived to experience so much.

[koan]

I think it is not only human learned behaviour to try and feel superior but people seem compelled to label others as a method of feeling in control. This includes labeling themselves. How many magazines have questionairres claiming to be able to tell you what "type" you are? We have astrology, numerology, the enneagrams and all the other systems of categorizing. Perhaps it makes the world seem more organized and understandable if we can stick everything in a box with a label on it. Then we all fight over what the best box is or try to decorate ours better so we seem like the best box on the shelf...in the end every box is made of cardboard and they all melt in the rain.

[Raven]

And who hasnt heard of the greatest stereotype of them all? The great blonde jokes!

I mean c'mon! :yh_laugh

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LottomagicZ4941 wrote: When it comes to race I like to think there is just one race.

The Human race.

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AMEN Lotto! Just one race.

StelZ, as far as the "Blue Rinse Brigade", if you are lucky to live long enough, you will become part of it one day! :-2

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[minks]

lables bah humbug only lable I ever read is

"May cause intoxication", ooo wait that is tattoo'd on me arse ahahahahaha

[valerie]

Raven wrote: And who hasnt heard of the greatest stereotype of them all? The great blonde jokes!



I mean c'mon! :yh_laughHey, I (being blond) avoided saying anything about that on purpose!



Then you watch a little of the Newlyweds and unfortunately, Jessica

Simpson perpetuates the stereotype!!



Oh well!!



:yh_giggle

[kensloft]

skittles2004 wrote: O really I think he should change the numbers to 0% accurate!
Main Entry: 2stereotype

Function: noun

: something conforming to a fixed or general pattern; especially : an often oversimplified or biased mental picture held to characterize the typical individual of a group ”ste·reo·typ·i·cal /"ster-E-&-'tip-i-k&l/ also ste·reo·typ·ic /-ik/ adjective

Try to put everything into its own slot. Makes life easier. Plumbers are stereotyped as being around fecal ramains or taking care of water problems. They are stereotyped by the job that they do. That is all they can do. They do nothing else as a stereotype. You lose the human feeling. It makes life simpler because you don't have to look at the intricacies of the human nature. Say plumber and you won't think of astronomer..

How many plumbers are into astronomy? You can do it with eveything.

[capt_buzzard]

Raven wrote: And who hasnt heard of the greatest stereotype of them all? The great blonde jokes!



I mean c'mon! :yh_laughAnd don't forget the Irish Paddy's in Britain:-2

[cars]

valerie wrote: Hey, I (being blond) avoided saying anything about that on purpose!



Then you watch a little of the Newlyweds and unfortunately, Jessica

Simpson perpetuates the stereotype!!



Oh well!!



:yh_giggle


Ahhh--- But is She "really" a Blond? :wah:

[A Karenina]

My two cents...we are highly social beings. We band together in groups, and always have. Today our groups are more blended, and so we fine-tune our labels to know where we belong. I think in the end we all want to belong...and to do that we must find those who don't belong.

Stereotypes, like humor, have a thread of truth to them - or they would not persist.

For example: Are blacks more athletic than whites, generally speaking? Yes, because their body structure is slightly different, the bone length is proportionately longer than whites, which gives greater athletic ability. So the stereotypical image of blacks playing basketball is both true and untrue at the same time. Obviously not every black person is athletic, nor is every white person of less ability than every black person.

Stereotypes are as harmful as we let them be. It's no great crime to point out differences in races and/or cultures. It is a great crime to treat someone as less than human because of these differences.

[minks]

kensloft wrote: Main Entry: 2stereotype

Function: noun

: something conforming to a fixed or general pattern; especially : an often oversimplified or biased mental picture held to characterize the typical individual of a group ”ste·reo·typ·i·cal /"ster-E-&-'tip-i-k&l/ also ste·reo·typ·ic /-ik/ adjective

Try to put everything into its own slot. Makes life easier. Plumbers are stereotyped as being around fecal ramains or taking care of water problems. They are stereotyped by the job that they do. That is all they can do. They do nothing else as a stereotype. You lose the human feeling. It makes life simpler because you don't have to look at the intricacies of the human nature. Say plumber and you won't think of astronomer..

How many plumbers are into astronomy? You can do it with eveything.


Yes and Teachers do a dam fine job of that I migh add.... Got a kid with a "high spirit" whamo they are dubbed "trouble" and are treated so for as long as the teacher knows them. And these people are educators .... puuuuuuuuuuulease spare me, what in gods name are they teaching when they just want to pigeon hole all these kids so they have the perfect class. My daughter has one teacher that is forever comparing my daughters class to another class I believe it is Math and takes great pride in informing her class on a regular basis that the other class has a much higher average. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[jahamaa]

minks wrote: Yes and Teachers do a dam fine job of that I migh add.... Got a kid with a "high spirit" whamo they are dubbed "trouble" and are treated so for as long as the teacher knows them. And these people are educators .... puuuuuuuuuuulease spare me, what in gods name are they teaching when they just want to pigeon hole all these kids so they have the perfect class. My daughter has one teacher that is forever comparing my daughters class to another class I believe it is Math and takes great pride in informing her class on a regular basis that the other class has a much higher average. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Man don't get me started on this. I've written a couple of letters to the editor of our local paper about teachers dismissing children who they sterotype as not teachable and then shunt them off to "alternative schools" which is to say warehoused, that they can forget about.

And there is what I think sterotyping is, at least in a large part, a way to dismiss what we don't want to deal with or confront.

See a Black on welfare, its easy to just say they are not as smart or ambitous as whites.

See a kid with bad grades it's easy to just dismiss them as having a bad home life or no interest in education

etc.etc. I could go on and on everybody is sterotyped in some way and that alone should tell us how stupid the action is.

[minks]

jahamaa wrote: Man don't get me started on this. I've written a couple of letters to the editor of our local paper about teachers dismissing children who they sterotype as not teachable and then shunt them off to "alternative schools" which is to say warehoused, that they can forget about.

And there is what I think sterotyping is, at least in a large part, a way to dismiss what we don't want to deal with or confront.

See a Black on welfare, its easy to just say they are not as smart or ambitous as whites.

See a kid with bad grades it's easy to just dismiss them as having a bad home life or no interest in education

etc.etc. I could go on and on everybody is sterotyped in some way and that alone should tell us how stupid the action is.


See a kid in class that is bored so tries to amuse them selves and becomes disruptive call the kid ADHD and demand medication.

Yep a sore topic with me, I could go on and on about the injustices my daughters have gone through in school and my brother as well.

[kensloft]

A Karenina wrote: My two cents...we are highly social beings. We band together in groups, and always have. Today our groups are more blended, and so we fine-tune our labels to know where we belong. I think in the end we all want to belong...and to do that we must find those who don't belong.

Stereotypes, like humor, have a thread of truth to them - or they would not persist.

For example: Are blacks more athletic than whites, generally speaking? Yes, because their body structure is slightly different, the bone length is proportionately longer than whites, which gives greater athletic ability. So the stereotypical image of blacks playing basketball is both true and untrue at the same time. Obviously not every black person is athletic, nor is every white person of less ability than every black person.

Stereotypes are as harmful as we let them be. It's no great crime to point out differences in races and/or cultures. It is a great crime to treat someone as less than human because of these differences.


Best basketball player in the world, according to all, is a young man called Nash. A white kid from Victoria, British Columbia. Stereotypes do suck. Eventually we'll be able to stereotype the stereotyping. and stereotypers

[BabyRider]

My personal biggest peeve: Biker stereotypes. Fine, true, we wear leather, have tattooes, get rowdy and loud, take over wherever we go, and are always having fun. Yep. It's all true. What's NOT true is that we are troublemakers, criminals, dope-dealers, unemployed, unwashed, deviants. But it's how we get treated everywhere. Obviously not as big a discrimination as some other examples here, but narrow-minded all the same. :yh_flag

[kensloft]

jahamaa wrote: Man don't get me started on this. I've written a couple of letters to the editor of our local paper about teachers dismissing children who they sterotype as not teachable and then shunt them off to "alternative schools" which is to say warehoused, that they can forget about.

And there is what I think sterotyping is, at least in a large part, a way to dismiss what we don't want to deal with or confront.

See a Black on welfare, its easy to just say they are not as smart or ambitous as whites.

See a kid with bad grades it's easy to just dismiss them as having a bad home life or no interest in education

etc.etc. I could go on and on everybody is sterotyped in some way and that alone should tell us how stupid the action is.
Good points. Tell it like it is!

[kensloft]

BabyRider wrote: My personal biggest peeve: Biker stereotypes. Fine, true, we wear leather, have tattooes, get rowdy and loud, take over wherever we go, and are always having fun. Yep. It's all true. What's NOT true is that we are troublemakers, criminals, dope-dealers, unemployed, unwashed, deviants. But it's how we get treated everywhere. Obviously not as big a discrimination as some other examples here, but narrow-minded all the same. :yh_flag
Sounds as good as being a long-hair in jeans. Can't see. Live in a drug-addled state. Lucky if he can count to 59. Yadda yadda. Open your mouth, destroy all their perceived stereotypes and watch them run. Over to another dark, murky corner where they can reassess their values for another kick at the can. Sheesh! :-2

[lady cop]

aren't we all stereotyped in one way or another? :yh_pig :yh_pig :yh_pig got donuts?

[kensloft]

lady cop wrote: aren't we all stereotyped in one way or another? :yh_pig :yh_pig :yh_pig got donuts?
We should start an anti-stereotype league!

Anyone that doesn't join us is with them. :-5

[Jives]

minks wrote: My daughter has one teacher that is forever comparing my daughters class to another class I believe it is Math and takes great pride in informing her class on a regular basis that the other class has a much higher average. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Whiiiirrrrrr. Whoop! Whoop! Danger Will Robinson! Close all hatches! Dive! Dive!

This is a REALLY stupid teacher trick. I learned not to do that on my first day. Ever hear of self-fullfilling prophecy? You tell one class they are no good and guess what?......They will do their best to live down to that title.

(I tell every class I have I'm proud of them and their accomplishments, it works a 1000 times better)

You know stereotyping begins in school, doesn't it? The Jocks, The Goths, The Stoners! The Preps..Oh My!

[minks]

Jives wrote: Whiiiirrrrrr. Whoop! Whoop! Danger Will Robinson! Close all hatches! Dive! Dive!

This is a REALLY stupid teacher trick. I learned not to do that on my first day. Ever hear of self-fullfilling prophecy? You tell one class they are no good and guess what?......They will do their best to live down to that title.

(I tell every class I have I'm proud of them and their accomplishments, it works a 1000 times better)

You know stereotyping begins in school, doesn't it? The Jocks, The Goths, The Stoners! The Preps..Oh My!


u sure you don't wanna teach at my daughters school??? Darn they need better teachers there.

[cars]

lady cop wrote: aren't we all stereotyped in one way or another? :yh_pig :yh_pig got donuts?


LC, as usual right on the mark! Can't think of anyone group & or person that is immune! :wah:

Cars :driving:

[kensloft]

StelZ wrote: Yeah - thats just the sort of typical comment you'd expect from a member of one of those 'on-lin' "forums"


Glad we could fit the stereotype. :yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl