Arrest just made

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:38 pm

In the Jon Benet Ramsey case.

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/a ... ryid=37666

booradley · Post by **booradley** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:44 pm

I watched a documentary on this not so long ago. Let's hope this poor little girl finally gets the justice she deserves

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:45 pm

I'm finding myself with really creepy feelings...

Her father travelled a lot on business...

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:00 pm

Oh, that gives me the shivers........................

CheshireCat · Post by **CheshireCat** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:02 pm

Too bad her mother didn't live long enough to see this.

booradley · Post by **booradley** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:07 pm

can't believe it was ten years ago, she would be a young woman now, the same age as my eldest girl. I hope it wasn't her dad...horrible to think of her mum believing him to be innocent and living with him for all those years after

booradley · Post by **booradley** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:17 pm

have they named someone then? I just looked and couldn't see anything

CheshireCat · Post by **CheshireCat** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:20 pm

booradley wrote: have they named someone then? I just looked and couldn't see anything
The article on CNN says they have confirmed nothing but will be holding a press conference later today.

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:34 pm

Who would have thought when this case first happened, it'd take 10 years to solve? I am anxious to see if John Ramsey has any kind of connection with the "person" who confessed. Such a sad story.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:42 pm

Apparently the man is a 41 year old American second grade school

teacher, being investigated for another sex crime when information

came out about the Ramsey case...

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:45 pm

A source close to the family said the Ramseys had

been told about a month before Patsy

Ramsey died that there was a suspect in the case.

CheshireCat · Post by **CheshireCat** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:39 pm

There is unidentified DNA from the child's fingernails that is in a data base. This teacher is being compared.

He's a teacher, how scary is that!

CheshireCat · Post by **CheshireCat** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:40 pm

John Mark Carr

Marie5656 · Post by **Marie5656** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:52 pm

CheshireCat wrote: Too bad her mother didn't live long enough to see this.

I am watching the national news on NBC right now. In the piece they said that before Patsy died, she knew that they had a suspect and that they were waiting for enough evidence to arrest him.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:14 pm

Yes, June.

Unfortunately, there is a local angle. The county

I live in has an outstanding arrest warrant for this

guy for child pornography.

In an interview, Marc Klaas said he thinks the guy

is just trying to avoid Thai jail, that too many

things point to the parents being involved.

John Mark Karr's ex- wife said (She didn't agree to on

camera interview, said she was too embarassed) that

they were living in Alabama at the time of the murder

and she was with him the entire Christmas season...

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:20 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: I always sort of thought the parents were involved, which I bet was a common belief. What a very tragic life those two have had for the past ten years.

At the risk of sounding maudlin...

RIP Patsy and Jon Benet Ramsey.

You know thats the 2nd time in a few days youve used that word dont you ? Lets try to keep the obscure ones obscure ok ? Can we do that ? Maudlin:rolleyes:

CheshireCat · Post by **CheshireCat** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:33 pm

I'll, say it, I thought the parents were involved, if it proves not to be the case, I will say my prayers and ask for forgivness, and swear never to NEVER watch the news again, who's with me.

I'm being facetious, those parents never had a chance. And being cynical you never know.

The whole country had these people guilty, myself included, if it turns out to be wrong, I will feel very bad for that family. But that won't change a thing about the media, and mass perception.

CheshireCat · Post by **CheshireCat** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:53 pm

Just to clairfy myself, I did think that it was an inside job. It's a bizzare case all the way around. I hape the new evidence will prove all that wrong. And the media, oh my, what I couldn't say about them!!!

I am crossing my fingers for that family that they can get it behind them, Really I do.

I just can't help but think about all of the other children that have been murdered or have gone missing that don't make headlines. They have mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, family, friends, lives taken.

It's a tradgedy this beautiful little girl, but there are children that starve right here under our noses, we don't hear about it.

Ok, made my point. I'll get off my soap box.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:20 pm

LC and I were chatting about this and as only LC could put it "She smells a rat"

I will let you know what she say as the info comes out.

The ransom letter is a sticking point in her mind due to the personal nature of the letter..

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:54 pm

You really think a 9 year old boy could have killed his 6 year old sister

with a garotte?

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:31 pm

It'll be interesting to see what happens tomorrow.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:04 am

Yes they have Floppy and what a nightmare it has been. Read the news this morning it is very apparent that they have their man, and a very sick man indeed stating that he loved Jonbenet and was in love with her and still is.

Now maybe we can get some answers to 10 years of questions about this tragedy, why, why, why,??? I want to know mainly what his connection to the Ramsey's was. :-1

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:09 am

SnoozeControl wrote: I always sort of thought the parents were involved, which I bet was a common belief. What a very tragic life those two have had for the past ten years.

At the risk of sounding maudlin...

RIP Patsy and Jon Benet Ramsey.

Ditto from me, Snoozie.

I am somewhat comforted by the knowledge that Patsy Ramsey *knew* they had a suspect before she died. But I'm sad for all the parents went through in the past ten years.

Question yourself: Did YOU think one of them was guilty?

Can you imagine a whole country of people believing this about you? For ten years?

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:20 am

I for one never thought Jonbenet's parent had anything to do with it at all. I did think it was a member of the family though not the son but some other member. I want details ..:-1 sick, sick, man.

Marie5656 · Post by **Marie5656** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:25 am

Maybe someone can help me out. I read a headline that said the suspect's ex-wiffe offered up an alibi for him. But for some reason I was unable to open the article. Anyone else read this?

I mean, if he already allegedly confessed, how can he have an alibi??

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:25 am

valerie wrote: In the Jon Benet Ramsey case.

Good. I remember that being reported years ago, and being fairly horrified by

both a) the fact that she'd been killed, and b) what this child had been made

into during her brief lifetime.

gande06 · Post by **gande06** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:12 am

flopstock wrote: Here's my take on the alibi... can you tell me what you were doing 'exactly' on any given day in december, ten years ago?

No.....but I can remember what I was doing on February 24th, 2006 at 3:30pm!

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:15 am

I have to just adopt a "wait and see" attitude.

Flopster, I think the wife wasn't being specific, just that they spent

that Christmas season in Alabama. Whether it will come to light that

there was a day in there that she wasn't actually with him, who knows.

This guy has outstanding warrants in my county for FIVE child porn

charges. They confiscated his computer (I believe this was 2001) and

the head of the school district fired him. He's a sicko in any case. His

wife divorced him right after. I heard one report that they had three kids,

and that the ex-wife and kids still live here in Sonoma County.

It might have been Ann Rule who said it, I'm not sure... but in almost

EVERY murder case there are some facts that don't fit. Since the

murderers never tell what the explanation is for a misfit fact... we never

know.

I do find it interesting that this case would take the police all the way

to Thailand for an arrest, that if they've been watching this guy for

a few months that they wouldn't have done it while he was here, or

when he came back. Unless they, too, thought he'd get stuck in a

Thai jail.

Marie5656 · Post by **Marie5656** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:15 am

I do not know about the attention seeking part...I mean if that was the case, why wait 10 years to confess...and then only after he was in custody for something else.

Plus, he knew facts that were not publicly known, plus his DNA matched some that was on Jonbenet.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:20 am

Marie5656 wrote: I do not know about the attention seeking part...I mean if that was the case, why wait 10 years to confess...and then only after he was in custody for something else.

Plus, he knew facts that were not publicly known, plus his DNA matched some that was on Jonbenet.

We don't know yet that the DNA matches, that is just speculation still.

Likely it does, but we haven't been shown that in court.

If you read my earlier post, Marc Klaas thinks this guy just doesn't want

to be put in a Thai jail, and that's why he's doing the "attention seeking".

Squeal like mad if you think you're finally going to get caught. If he hadn't

gone over there, and hadn't done something else, I still don't think we

would have heard YET.

Marie5656 · Post by **Marie5656** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:21 am

Anyone who would do that to a child is definatly not all there. Wasn't his Thai arrest for sexual abuse? We do have an extradition treaty with them, don't we?

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:30 am

They'd want to... but even if there isn't a treaty can you imagine authorities

there denying the US in a case like this? I would think "professional courtesy"

would come into play...

If he's supposed to be brought back later this week or this weekend,

then I think they probably already have it worked out who "gets" him!

Marie5656 · Post by **Marie5656** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:33 am

Guess there could be an our case beats your case argument. Murder is bigger than assault. Or else, they could try him, then send him here for the murder trial.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.