Marie5656 wrote: I am not sure the Bible was meant to be taken absolutly literally. I mean I feel the record of events were the interpretation of the people who wrote them, based on what they saw as the facts.
That is why, at least in the Catholic mass, they read the "Gospel according to Mark, or Paul" or whomever they are reading from that week.
I do not feel that the quotes can be called contradictions, unless you know the actual time frame that each event took place. They could have been hundreds of years apart.
You can guarantee that Exodus and John are several hundred years apart (700+) but if both the Old and the New Testaments are supposed to be the divine word of God and therefore inerrant you still have to explain such a direct contradiction as stating that Jacob had seen God face to face whilst stating that no man has seen God at any time.
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Bryn Mawr wrote: You can guarantee that Exodus and John are several hundred years apart (700+) but if both the Old and the New Testaments are supposed to be the divine word of God and therefore inerrant you still have to explain such a direct contradiction as stating that Jacob had seen God face to face whilst stating that no man has seen God at any time.
Have you been face to face with God? A special moment you have trouble to describe?
Can we see God in a visible manifestation of HIS choosing? People saw Jesus, for instance, and did not die, etc? Moses saw God's back, and in the form of a burning bush? Jacob was able to look upon God in the shape of an angel who came to wrestle with him?
Have you been face to face with God? A special moment you have trouble to describe?
Can we see God in a visible manifestation of HIS choosing? People saw Jesus, for instance, and did not die, etc? Moses saw God's back, and in the form of a burning bush? Jacob was able to look upon God in the shape of an angel who came to wrestle with him?
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zinkyusa wrote: God is seen and heard:
and I will away my hand , and thou shalt see my backparts. (Ex. 33:23) was God mooning someone?
and the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to a friend. (Ex. 33:11.)
For I have seen God God face to face, and my life is preserved. (Gen. 32:30.)
God is invisible and cannot be heard:
No man hath seen God at any time. (John 1:18.)
Ye hath neither heard his voice, at any time, nor seeen his shape. (John 5:37.)
Whom no man hath seen nor can see. (1 Tim. 6:16.)
I highly recommend you do a thorough study..........of course, you think you have done that. More is needed.
and I will away my hand , and thou shalt see my backparts. (Ex. 33:23) was God mooning someone?
and the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to a friend. (Ex. 33:11.)
For I have seen God God face to face, and my life is preserved. (Gen. 32:30.)
God is invisible and cannot be heard:
No man hath seen God at any time. (John 1:18.)
Ye hath neither heard his voice, at any time, nor seeen his shape. (John 5:37.)
Whom no man hath seen nor can see. (1 Tim. 6:16.)
I highly recommend you do a thorough study..........of course, you think you have done that. More is needed.
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astilla, look around you. you can see "god" in the smile of a child. the feel of the wind on your skin. the green of the leaves on all the trees. it is all around you if you just look......
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Marie5656 wrote: I am not sure the Bible was meant to be taken absolutly literally. I mean I feel the record of events were the interpretation of the people who wrote them, based on what they saw as the facts.
That is why, at least in the Catholic mass, they read the "Gospel according to Mark, or Paul" or whomever they are reading from that week.
I do not feel that the quotes can be called contradictions, unless you know the actual time frame that each event took place. They could have been hundreds of years apart.
You are correct. Some things are literal, others are allegory, and so on. Bible study cannot be done in a perfunctory sense. Obvious by the questions that are asked.
Good answer! :-6
That is why, at least in the Catholic mass, they read the "Gospel according to Mark, or Paul" or whomever they are reading from that week.
I do not feel that the quotes can be called contradictions, unless you know the actual time frame that each event took place. They could have been hundreds of years apart.
You are correct. Some things are literal, others are allegory, and so on. Bible study cannot be done in a perfunctory sense. Obvious by the questions that are asked.
Good answer! :-6
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guppy wrote: astilla, look around you. you can see "god" in the smile of a child. the feel of the wind on your skin. the green of the leaves on all the trees. it is all around you if you just look......
Indeed! Very well put and that is how it should be done that we should see HIM in HIS handiwork, HIS goodness and mercy and longsuffering. So much sin in this world, and it is still breathtakingly beautiful.
Thanks for sharing. Good blessings to you. :-6
Indeed! Very well put and that is how it should be done that we should see HIM in HIS handiwork, HIS goodness and mercy and longsuffering. So much sin in this world, and it is still breathtakingly beautiful.
Thanks for sharing. Good blessings to you. :-6
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Atsila wrote: I highly recommend you do a thorough study..........of course, you think you have done that. More is needed.
Rather than a condecending pat on the head, why not respond to the points made?
Rather than a condecending pat on the head, why not respond to the points made?
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Bryn Mawr wrote: Rather than a condecending pat on the head, why not respond to the points made?
I have addressed the points. Just not directly to you. Unfortunately, you see condescending.
I have addressed the points. Just not directly to you. Unfortunately, you see condescending.
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Atsila:-6
And so do I.
I will give you a little information and I really don't care what you do with it. I have spent some 9+ years at university. I am trained in both Hebrew and Greek translation and interpretation as well as Biblical history. I have spent some 40 years in theological and theologically related subjects. I continue my formal studies at the Vancouver School of Theology. I have studied under some of the world's top recognized Biblical and Jesus scholars.
That being said, then you tell me to do some thorough study. Perhaps it is you who should do some.
I care not a whit what you believe but the condescending attitude is to say the least obnoxious.
You tell me to study. Go and do likewise.
I will discuss anything with anyone but absolutely detest any condescending attitude and also know full well that if anyone including myself thinks they have all the answers, they are delusional.
Shalom
Ted.
And so do I.
I will give you a little information and I really don't care what you do with it. I have spent some 9+ years at university. I am trained in both Hebrew and Greek translation and interpretation as well as Biblical history. I have spent some 40 years in theological and theologically related subjects. I continue my formal studies at the Vancouver School of Theology. I have studied under some of the world's top recognized Biblical and Jesus scholars.
That being said, then you tell me to do some thorough study. Perhaps it is you who should do some.
I care not a whit what you believe but the condescending attitude is to say the least obnoxious.
You tell me to study. Go and do likewise.
I will discuss anything with anyone but absolutely detest any condescending attitude and also know full well that if anyone including myself thinks they have all the answers, they are delusional.
Shalom
Ted.
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Arnold:-6
I can absolutely agree with that.
Shalom
Ted:-6
I can absolutely agree with that.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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Atsila wrote: I have addressed the points. Just not directly to you. Unfortunately, you see condescending.
That's when I don't see arrogant, ignorant or bogotted - I was trying to be polite.
Where did you address the points - I have seen no attempt to explain the apparent contradictions Zinky raised.
That's when I don't see arrogant, ignorant or bogotted - I was trying to be polite.
Where did you address the points - I have seen no attempt to explain the apparent contradictions Zinky raised.
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An interesting book to read is "The Sins of the Scriptures" by John Spong. It came to me, highly recommed by a scholar, who is not generally taken with Spong though does agree with much of what he says, as probably one of his best books.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Shalom
Ted:-6
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Not only are there internal contradictions but there are external contradictions as well. By external, I mean those related to science, history and archaeology.
A couple of examples are no: Exodus as written, flood as per Noah, Joshua taking Jericho which was an abandoned town by the time he got there, no three wise men, no flight into Egypt. All are exceptionally important parables in the Hebrew story and convey many profound truths. They simply are not historical.
Shalom
Ted:-6
A couple of examples are no: Exodus as written, flood as per Noah, Joshua taking Jericho which was an abandoned town by the time he got there, no three wise men, no flight into Egypt. All are exceptionally important parables in the Hebrew story and convey many profound truths. They simply are not historical.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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Ted wrote: Atsila:-6
And so do I.
I will give you a little information and I really don't care what you do with it. I have spent some 9+ years at university. I am trained in both Hebrew and Greek translation and interpretation as well as Biblical history. I have spent some 40 years in theological and theologically related subjects. I continue my formal studies at the Vancouver School of Theology. I have studied under some of the world's top recognized Biblical and Jesus scholars.
That being said, then you tell me to do some thorough study. Perhaps it is you who should do some.
I care not a whit what you believe but the condescending attitude is to say the least obnoxious.
You tell me to study. Go and do likewise.
I will discuss anything with anyone but absolutely detest any condescending attitude and also know full well that if anyone including myself thinks they have all the answers, they are delusional.
Shalom
Ted.
To some comes wisdom by study to some comes the following......
2 Tim 3:7 always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Twenty lifetimes coming and going and the above may hold as true. While others, truly surrendered to the Spirit of God, learn in an instant.
I'm not impressed with your credentials. Loads of people have them and show how they have reached their depth. Condescending, obnoxious......smoke screens designed to promote those credentials in a better-than- thou ploy.
And so do I.
I will give you a little information and I really don't care what you do with it. I have spent some 9+ years at university. I am trained in both Hebrew and Greek translation and interpretation as well as Biblical history. I have spent some 40 years in theological and theologically related subjects. I continue my formal studies at the Vancouver School of Theology. I have studied under some of the world's top recognized Biblical and Jesus scholars.
That being said, then you tell me to do some thorough study. Perhaps it is you who should do some.
I care not a whit what you believe but the condescending attitude is to say the least obnoxious.
You tell me to study. Go and do likewise.
I will discuss anything with anyone but absolutely detest any condescending attitude and also know full well that if anyone including myself thinks they have all the answers, they are delusional.
Shalom
Ted.
To some comes wisdom by study to some comes the following......
2 Tim 3:7 always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Twenty lifetimes coming and going and the above may hold as true. While others, truly surrendered to the Spirit of God, learn in an instant.
I'm not impressed with your credentials. Loads of people have them and show how they have reached their depth. Condescending, obnoxious......smoke screens designed to promote those credentials in a better-than- thou ploy.
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Ted wrote: Not only are there internal contradictions but there are external contradictions as well. By external, I mean those related to science, history and archaeology.
A couple of examples are no: Exodus as written, flood as per Noah, Joshua taking Jericho which was an abandoned town by the time he got there, no three wise men, no flight into Egypt. All are exceptionally important parables in the Hebrew story and convey many profound truths. They simply are not historical.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Want to do history? Which is what's left of an event after everyone agrees on it and hardly the truth. Is not a science book nor intended as such ......... but, speak to the animals and they will tell you Job 12......archeology not meant to be that either. Summarized in John 3:16.
God is omnipotent and as such able to convey HIS truth as HE set out to convey it and see it through to the end, regardless of who messes with the content. You may believe it. Or not!
A couple of examples are no: Exodus as written, flood as per Noah, Joshua taking Jericho which was an abandoned town by the time he got there, no three wise men, no flight into Egypt. All are exceptionally important parables in the Hebrew story and convey many profound truths. They simply are not historical.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Want to do history? Which is what's left of an event after everyone agrees on it and hardly the truth. Is not a science book nor intended as such ......... but, speak to the animals and they will tell you Job 12......archeology not meant to be that either. Summarized in John 3:16.
God is omnipotent and as such able to convey HIS truth as HE set out to convey it and see it through to the end, regardless of who messes with the content. You may believe it. Or not!
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Atsila wrote: To some comes wisdom by study to some comes the following......
2 Tim 3:7 always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Twenty lifetimes coming and going and the above may hold as true. While others, truly surrendered to the Spirit of God, learn in an instant.
I'm not impressed with your credentials. Loads of people have them and show how they have reached their depth. Condescending, obnoxious......smoke screens designed to promote those credentials in a better-than- thou ploy.
WOW....Astila
you must have studied many years on how to be bitter or maybe you knew how instantly on birth. Why do you like to be so hurtful to people? Come to think of it, it is mostly within religious topics that you are so bitter. YOu must have had a really bad experience with church. Unfortunate.
2 Tim 3:7 always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Twenty lifetimes coming and going and the above may hold as true. While others, truly surrendered to the Spirit of God, learn in an instant.
I'm not impressed with your credentials. Loads of people have them and show how they have reached their depth. Condescending, obnoxious......smoke screens designed to promote those credentials in a better-than- thou ploy.
WOW....Astila
you must have studied many years on how to be bitter or maybe you knew how instantly on birth. Why do you like to be so hurtful to people? Come to think of it, it is mostly within religious topics that you are so bitter. YOu must have had a really bad experience with church. Unfortunate.
miriam:yh_flower
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity.
.................Charles Mingus
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity.
.................Charles Mingus
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?
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weber wrote: WOW....Astila
you must have studied many years on how to be bitter or maybe you knew how instantly on birth. Why do you like to be so hurtful to people? Come to think of it, it is mostly within religious topics that you are so bitter. YOu must have had a really bad experience with church. Unfortunate.
Wow, weber you took the words right out of my mouth. it is sad to see someone so bitter. someone or something must have hurt you pretty bad atsilla. i am sorry to see you not happy. your very words betray you as sad, hurting , and maybe mad....i hope , for yoursake you can find some measure of peace.
sincerely, guppy.
you must have studied many years on how to be bitter or maybe you knew how instantly on birth. Why do you like to be so hurtful to people? Come to think of it, it is mostly within religious topics that you are so bitter. YOu must have had a really bad experience with church. Unfortunate.
Wow, weber you took the words right out of my mouth. it is sad to see someone so bitter. someone or something must have hurt you pretty bad atsilla. i am sorry to see you not happy. your very words betray you as sad, hurting , and maybe mad....i hope , for yoursake you can find some measure of peace.
sincerely, guppy.
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weber wrote: WOW....Astila
you must have studied many years on how to be bitter or maybe you knew how instantly on birth. Why do you like to be so hurtful to people? Come to think of it, it is mostly within religious topics that you are so bitter. YOu must have had a really bad experience with church. Unfortunate.
Oh is this now a call for a big Kumbahya hug, Love peace Yoko ? Sounds like you are the bitter one Weber
you must have studied many years on how to be bitter or maybe you knew how instantly on birth. Why do you like to be so hurtful to people? Come to think of it, it is mostly within religious topics that you are so bitter. YOu must have had a really bad experience with church. Unfortunate.
Oh is this now a call for a big Kumbahya hug, Love peace Yoko ? Sounds like you are the bitter one Weber
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guppy wrote: Wow, weber you took the words right out of my mouth. it is sad to see someone so bitter. someone or something must have hurt you pretty bad atsilla. i am sorry to see you not happy. your very words betray you as sad, hurting , and maybe mad....i hope , for yoursake you can find some measure of peace.
sincerely, guppy.
Wow you two ( Weber & guppy) must swim in the same ocean, I hardly see where Astila is being bitter--in fact far from it.
sincerely, guppy.
Wow you two ( Weber & guppy) must swim in the same ocean, I hardly see where Astila is being bitter--in fact far from it.
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Nevim wrote: Oh is this now a call for a big Kumbahya hug, Love peace Yoko ? Sounds like you are the bitter one Weber
Does doesn't it Nevim. Unfortunately the correct word keeps escaping me. One day it is going to come to me. I simply don't see the need in being "snotty" for a lack of a better word when spewing how another posters credentials are no good. If a poster can't stand on their own merit without trying to tear down another posters credentials, then that person doing the tearing down has no merit to begin with.
Does doesn't it Nevim. Unfortunately the correct word keeps escaping me. One day it is going to come to me. I simply don't see the need in being "snotty" for a lack of a better word when spewing how another posters credentials are no good. If a poster can't stand on their own merit without trying to tear down another posters credentials, then that person doing the tearing down has no merit to begin with.
miriam:yh_flower
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity.
.................Charles Mingus
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity.
.................Charles Mingus
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?
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Ted wrote: An interesting book to read is "The Sins of the Scriptures" by John Spong. It came to me, highly recommed by a scholar, who is not generally taken with Spong though does agree with much of what he says, as probably one of his best books.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Is that the liberal Anglican Bishop that ordained Homosexuals ?
Shalom
Ted:-6
Is that the liberal Anglican Bishop that ordained Homosexuals ?
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Bryn Mawr wrote: That's when I don't see arrogant, ignorant or bogotted - I was trying to be polite.
Where did you address the points - I have seen no attempt to explain the apparent contradictions Zinky raised.
I did I guess you didn't read my post...
Where did you address the points - I have seen no attempt to explain the apparent contradictions Zinky raised.
I did I guess you didn't read my post...
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weber wrote: Does doesn't it Nevim. Unfortunately the correct word keeps escaping me. One day it is going to come to me. I simply don't see the need in being "snotty" for a lack of a better word when spewing how another posters credentials are no good. If a poster can't stand on their own merit without trying to tear down another posters credentials, then that person doing the tearing down has no merit to begin with.
Lets put it this way--you buddy started it....and I don't let things go especially when it has to do with friends...Now call me all the petty names you wish--it is you that's bitter.
Lets put it this way--you buddy started it....and I don't let things go especially when it has to do with friends...Now call me all the petty names you wish--it is you that's bitter.
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guppy wrote: astilla, look around you. you can see "god" in the smile of a child. the feel of the wind on your skin. the green of the leaves on all the trees. it is all around you if you just look......
Yo the "age of aquarious is over" it was a big flop.
Yo the "age of aquarious is over" it was a big flop.
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Nevim wrote: Lets put it this way--you buddy started it....and I don't let things go especially when it has to do with friends...Now call me all the petty names you wish--it is you that's bitter.
But I didn't call you a petty name. Tell me where you get that. And if you are referring to my use of the word "snotty" etc., that was meant not for you but Astila and, even then, I was not calling Astila snotty.
But I didn't call you a petty name. Tell me where you get that. And if you are referring to my use of the word "snotty" etc., that was meant not for you but Astila and, even then, I was not calling Astila snotty.
miriam:yh_flower
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity.
.................Charles Mingus
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity.
.................Charles Mingus
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?
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i hope everybody has a restfull peaceful night.......gup
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Atsila:-6
I care not what you think of study etc. You do not know me nor do you know the depth of my faith. Therefore, to put it bluntly you don't know what you are talking about.
As others have said your post says far more than it words. about who you are and your own position.
As far as your words hurting myself goes LOL.
You don't like to be contradicted. You don't like it when people disagree with you. Nor do you like to support your position, or respond to questions with a clear answer. There is one thing that I have learned over the years and that is how much none of us really knows and how much there is to learn and how short the time is. I would say you are living in a delusional world. But, hey, if that is what you like, go for it.
Shalom
Ted:-6
I care not what you think of study etc. You do not know me nor do you know the depth of my faith. Therefore, to put it bluntly you don't know what you are talking about.
As others have said your post says far more than it words. about who you are and your own position.
As far as your words hurting myself goes LOL.
You don't like to be contradicted. You don't like it when people disagree with you. Nor do you like to support your position, or respond to questions with a clear answer. There is one thing that I have learned over the years and that is how much none of us really knows and how much there is to learn and how short the time is. I would say you are living in a delusional world. But, hey, if that is what you like, go for it.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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One thing I can say for sure is that without scholarship we would not have the Bible we have today. We would be stuck with the KJV which contains ovver 20 000 translation errors. So much for scholarship. Disregard it and live in ignorance. They do say ignorance is bliss.
The Bible does say study to show thyself approved. Jesus is reported to have said that we shall know the truth and it will set us free. It is that freedom and truth that set me free from slavery to fundamentalist/literalism.
Shalom
Ted:-6
The Bible does say study to show thyself approved. Jesus is reported to have said that we shall know the truth and it will set us free. It is that freedom and truth that set me free from slavery to fundamentalist/literalism.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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weber wrote: But I didn't call you a petty name. Tell me where you get that. And if you are referring to my use of the word "snotty" etc., that was meant not for you but Astila and, even then, I was not calling Astila snotty.
Wow you are confused, you did but you didn't--shessh make up you mind....
Wow you are confused, you did but you didn't--shessh make up you mind....
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Ted wrote: One thing I can say for sure is that without scholarship we would not have the Bible we have today. We would be stuck with the KJV which contains ovver 20 000 translation errors. So much for scholarship. Disregard it and live in ignorance. They do say ignorance is bliss.
The Bible does say study to show thyself approved. Jesus is reported to have said that we shall know the truth and it will set us free. It is that freedom and truth that set me free from slavery to fundamentalist/literalism.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Snort, Ted just admit your an atheist that cannot stand the Scriptures--wouldn't that be easier ? I figure it this way--let God deal with you..."]
The Bible does say study to show thyself approved. Jesus is reported to have said that we shall know the truth and it will set us free. It is that freedom and truth that set me free from slavery to fundamentalist/literalism.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Snort, Ted just admit your an atheist that cannot stand the Scriptures--wouldn't that be easier ? I figure it this way--let God deal with you..."]
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Nevim:-6
I will say to you what I said to Atsila. You do not know me. You do not know the depth of my faith or the extent of it. In short in not knowing me you simply do not know what you are talking about.
If you are interested in learning than ask. If you wish to remain blissful then so be it.
You are correct about one thing God will be my judge and I happily submit to His
judgment.
Your posts say more about you than any of your words say about me.
Shalom
Ted:-6
I will say to you what I said to Atsila. You do not know me. You do not know the depth of my faith or the extent of it. In short in not knowing me you simply do not know what you are talking about.
If you are interested in learning than ask. If you wish to remain blissful then so be it.
You are correct about one thing God will be my judge and I happily submit to His
judgment.
Your posts say more about you than any of your words say about me.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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Ted wrote: Nevim:-6
I will say to you what I said to Atsila. You do not know me. You do not know the depth of my faith or the extent of it. In short in not knowing me you simply do not know what you are talking about.
If you are interested in learning than ask. If you wish to remain blissful then so be it.
You are correct about one thing God will be my judge and I happily submit to His
judgment.
Your posts say more about you than any of your words say about me.
Shalom
Ted:-6
You bet He will....
NET John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey my commandments.
Since you question the Scripture Ted, I fail to see how you could possibly obey His Commandments...!
I will say to you what I said to Atsila. You do not know me. You do not know the depth of my faith or the extent of it. In short in not knowing me you simply do not know what you are talking about.
If you are interested in learning than ask. If you wish to remain blissful then so be it.
You are correct about one thing God will be my judge and I happily submit to His
judgment.
Your posts say more about you than any of your words say about me.
Shalom
Ted:-6
You bet He will....
NET John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey my commandments.
Since you question the Scripture Ted, I fail to see how you could possibly obey His Commandments...!
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Nevim:-6
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Shalom
Ted:-6
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Shalom
Ted:-6
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Atsila wrote:
I'm not impressed with your credentials. Loads of people have them and show how they have reached their depth. Condescending, obnoxious......smoke screens designed to promote those credentials in a better-than- thou ploy.
So what are your credentials for all of the Pontificating you've been doing?
I'm not impressed with your credentials. Loads of people have them and show how they have reached their depth. Condescending, obnoxious......smoke screens designed to promote those credentials in a better-than- thou ploy.
So what are your credentials for all of the Pontificating you've been doing?
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Nevim wrote: I did I guess you didn't read my post...
Then could you provide a pointer to it?
Then could you provide a pointer to it?
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Nevim wrote: Snort, Ted just admit your an atheist that cannot stand the Scriptures--wouldn't that be easier ? I figure it this way--let God deal with you..."]
Ted is a real Chrisitan, you and Gatzilla are scriptural Nazis who cannot think for yourselves. You cannot even explain your point of view without quoting from Bible. Every answer comes from the source whose validity is in question, what kind of logic is that..I have faith but not in your literal interpretations of scripture.
You personally attack people like weber and guppy for simply stating their beliefs which happen to be different than your narrow minded views..You call yourselves Chrisitans I imagine real Christians are ashamed of you two.
Ted is a real Chrisitan, you and Gatzilla are scriptural Nazis who cannot think for yourselves. You cannot even explain your point of view without quoting from Bible. Every answer comes from the source whose validity is in question, what kind of logic is that..I have faith but not in your literal interpretations of scripture.
You personally attack people like weber and guppy for simply stating their beliefs which happen to be different than your narrow minded views..You call yourselves Chrisitans I imagine real Christians are ashamed of you two.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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Ted wrote: Nevim:-6
I will say to you what I said to Atsila. You do not know me. You do not know the depth of my faith or the extent of it. In short in not knowing me you simply do not know what you are talking about.
If you are interested in learning than ask. If you wish to remain blissful then so be it.
You are correct about one thing God will be my judge and I happily submit to His
judgment.
Your posts say more about you than any of your words say about me.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Therefore, how you present yourself here is not who you are? A pretend-you, perhaps? But, you do assume/pretend to know me, don't you? And so do your friends here.
You lead with your credentials, asking those who read and see to be a respecter of them. Yet you know that credentials can be and are readily shot down as ..... anyone can have them, does not make anyone who has them orthodox, but studied in the area of the credentials. And when the moment has arrived and someone points this out to you, you fail to see how you've painted yourself into a corner. The corner of your credentials.
Your posts speak about you as well. Thought I'd point that out to you.
Then your credentials become a stumbling block and keep you from entertaining a thought other than what is generated by the credentials.
What are Christ's earthly credentials? Those of the apostles?
I will say to you what I said to Atsila. You do not know me. You do not know the depth of my faith or the extent of it. In short in not knowing me you simply do not know what you are talking about.
If you are interested in learning than ask. If you wish to remain blissful then so be it.
You are correct about one thing God will be my judge and I happily submit to His
judgment.
Your posts say more about you than any of your words say about me.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Therefore, how you present yourself here is not who you are? A pretend-you, perhaps? But, you do assume/pretend to know me, don't you? And so do your friends here.
You lead with your credentials, asking those who read and see to be a respecter of them. Yet you know that credentials can be and are readily shot down as ..... anyone can have them, does not make anyone who has them orthodox, but studied in the area of the credentials. And when the moment has arrived and someone points this out to you, you fail to see how you've painted yourself into a corner. The corner of your credentials.
Your posts speak about you as well. Thought I'd point that out to you.
Then your credentials become a stumbling block and keep you from entertaining a thought other than what is generated by the credentials.
What are Christ's earthly credentials? Those of the apostles?
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Bryn Mawr wrote: So what are your credentials for all of the Pontificating you've been doing?
And what are yours to point that out to me?
And what are yours to point that out to me?
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zinkyusa wrote: Ted is a real Chrisitan, you and Gatzilla are scriptural Nazis who cannot think for yourselves. You cannot even explain your point of view without quoting from Bible. Every answer comes from the source whose validity is in question, what kind of logic is that..I have faith but not in your literal interpretations of scripture.
You personally attack people like weber and guppy for simply stating their beliefs which happen to be different than your narrow minded views..You call yourselves Chrisitans I imagine real Christians are ashamed of you two.
You personally attack people like weber and guppy for simply stating their beliefs which happen to be different than your narrow minded views..You call yourselves Chrisitans I imagine real Christians are ashamed of you two.
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Nevim wrote: Snort, Ted just admit your an atheist that cannot stand the Scriptures--wouldn't that be easier ? I figure it this way--let God deal with you..."]
Catholic, I would say.
Catholic, I would say.
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Atsila wrote:
How old are you? Nine? Oh wait, my nine year old is more mature than this..
How old are you? Nine? Oh wait, my nine year old is more mature than this..
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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zinkyusa wrote: Ted is a real Chrisitan, you and Gatzilla are scriptural Nazis who cannot think for yourselves. You cannot even explain your point of view without quoting from Bible. Every answer comes from the source whose validity is in question, what kind of logic is that..I have faith but not in your literal interpretations of scripture.
You personally attack people like weber and guppy for simply stating their beliefs which happen to be different than your narrow minded views..You call yourselves Chrisitans I imagine real Christians are ashamed of you two.
Earth to Bat guy, you and the rest of those who claim to be "Christians", yet are under the sign of the Zodiac, and use well known denomic creatures for avatar's are the ones who mounted personal attacks, and you are still at it. Frankly, no, obviously neither you nor the other two don't know what a Christain is. Atlsia and I have been met here with nothing but open hostility... So go fly off and haunt some old house or fall on your knees in repentance to the Messiah Yahushua...
You personally attack people like weber and guppy for simply stating their beliefs which happen to be different than your narrow minded views..You call yourselves Chrisitans I imagine real Christians are ashamed of you two.
Earth to Bat guy, you and the rest of those who claim to be "Christians", yet are under the sign of the Zodiac, and use well known denomic creatures for avatar's are the ones who mounted personal attacks, and you are still at it. Frankly, no, obviously neither you nor the other two don't know what a Christain is. Atlsia and I have been met here with nothing but open hostility... So go fly off and haunt some old house or fall on your knees in repentance to the Messiah Yahushua...
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Nevim wrote: Earth to Bat guy, you and the rest of those who claim to be "Christians", yet are under the sign of the Zodiac, and use well known denomic creatures for avatar's are the ones who mounted personal attacks, and you are still at it. Frankly, no, obviously neither you nor the other two don't know what a Christain is. We have been met here with nothing but open hostility... So go fly off and haunt some old house or fall on your knees in repentance to the Messiah Yahushua...
I'm not a Chritsian actually, I said Ted was the real Christian around here. I just enjoy lisyening to his views. You and your little pal are psychotic and turn my stomach with you intolerance and immaturity....
I'm not a Chritsian actually, I said Ted was the real Christian around here. I just enjoy lisyening to his views. You and your little pal are psychotic and turn my stomach with you intolerance and immaturity....
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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Bryn Mawr wrote: Then could you provide a pointer to it?
Why ? You need help ?
Why ? You need help ?
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Nevim wrote: Why ? You need help ?
Get the eagle and flag off your greasy little posts, you're an embarassment to my country..
Get the eagle and flag off your greasy little posts, you're an embarassment to my country..
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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zinkyusa wrote: I'm not a Chritsian actually,
NO kidding as if that's a revelation...!
zinkyusa wrote:
I said Ted was the real Christian around here. I just enjoy lisyening to his views. You and your little pal are psychotic and turn my stomach with you intolerance and immaturity....
Lets see you're not a Christian but you are an authority on who is! Here, is a new Avatar for ya
NO kidding as if that's a revelation...!
zinkyusa wrote:
I said Ted was the real Christian around here. I just enjoy lisyening to his views. You and your little pal are psychotic and turn my stomach with you intolerance and immaturity....
Lets see you're not a Christian but you are an authority on who is! Here, is a new Avatar for ya
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zinkyusa wrote: Get the eagle and flag off your greasy little posts, you're an embarassment to my country..
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ArnoldLayne wrote: Demonic creatures for avatars eh ? Atsila has a wolf, pretty demonic I'd say.
Oh and you can include me in your rants cos I listen to the devils music
I tired of hearing you rant a and cry
Oh and you can include me in your rants cos I listen to the devils music
I tired of hearing you rant a and cry