A very well written piece of work.
A very well written piece of work.
I think thats its an interesting and thoughtful piece, though of course from a Russian perspective, and their own record on dealing with extremism is hardly covered in glory. I do think that the criticism is fair, but I would add that one of the defining things about the West over the centuries has been its ability to learn from mistakes and adapt to emerging problems over time. Whether that will be the case in this conflict, only time will tell.
"We are never so happy, never so unhappy, as we imagine"
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"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
A very well written piece of work.
The Iraqi government needs to be trained to repel terrorist aggression much in the same it needs to learn how to sustain the effectiveness of its newly formed government.
A very well written piece of work.
Scrat wrote: True, Russia has had its bad decisions ect in conflicts but theirs is a very different situation from ours. As of late they can call Chechneya a victory, until things begin to change again.
I can think of a lot of instances where Russias seeming ruthlessness was exactly what was needed for a quick and decisive end/solution. Russia must by any means maintain stability/security on her borders. They don't have the luxury of 2 major oceans to protect them from agressors.
Yes, Europe doesn't have any oceans to protect itself either, and it doesn't have a unified military or a single unified government, which is one of the reasons why Europeans are more adverse to general military solutions to problems such as these.
I can think of a lot of instances where Russias seeming ruthlessness was exactly what was needed for a quick and decisive end/solution. Russia must by any means maintain stability/security on her borders. They don't have the luxury of 2 major oceans to protect them from agressors.
Yes, Europe doesn't have any oceans to protect itself either, and it doesn't have a unified military or a single unified government, which is one of the reasons why Europeans are more adverse to general military solutions to problems such as these.
"We are never so happy, never so unhappy, as we imagine"
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
A very well written piece of work.
One thing keeps haunting me. In my opinion after Russia pulled out of Afghanistan, Bin Laden was left a hero without a cause. We werent in Afghanistan when we were attacked. I believe we were attacked because his ego was starving. He needed a cause to keep his iconoclastic and warped ideals alive. If there wasnt a fight for him to be immersed in would his sheep still follow him ? I believe Bin Ladens cause revolves more around his need for adulation than it does ideals.
The article is correct in that the west is mind numbingly immature in world policy but I still think the animals who perpetrate terror are seriously in need of a war to confront as it feeds their need to be recognized.
The article is correct in that the west is mind numbingly immature in world policy but I still think the animals who perpetrate terror are seriously in need of a war to confront as it feeds their need to be recognized.
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A very well written piece of work.
Scrat wrote:
To call them animals is a part of this attitude, people who are opressed will fight back any way they can even if it is barbaric. That has been proven time and again. Wouldn't you?
You mean murder in cold blood?
To call them animals is a part of this attitude, people who are opressed will fight back any way they can even if it is barbaric. That has been proven time and again. Wouldn't you?
You mean murder in cold blood?
A very well written piece of work.
Scrat wrote: Depends on what your definition of "murder" is.
Let me rephrase the question then.
You mean kill in cold blood?
Let me rephrase the question then.
You mean kill in cold blood?
A very well written piece of work.
Scrat wrote: I know where you're going with this and I will say that a human being or humans that oppress a people, terrorize them as a matter of policy (and belief in their own "superiority") and institution are creatures of the worst kind.
It's one thing to label yourself as human and truely be human in your actions.
People who consider themselves human with their boots on the necks of others are no different and close kin to the Jeffery Dahmers of this world if not worse than his like. He was insane beyond any standard, he had not the mental facilities to comprehend right and wrong. Some people I know exist do sadistic things for the very SELFAWARE, FULLY AWARE enjoyment of the act and the benefits of it.
These scum come in many different forms on all sides and in all uniforms of all nations. Don't even try to justify lowlifes like this to me in any way, shape or form.
Right, so you're justifying those who were oppressed killing out of resentment?
To be honest, "oppression" can only be defined by ones perception so in response to this I am saying that I am justifying nothing because I do not know the details and exact meaning of oppression, especially in any specific situation. I simply asked a question in response to your question that made it clear you were able to justify "any" action people were willing to take when oppressed.
It's one thing to label yourself as human and truely be human in your actions.
People who consider themselves human with their boots on the necks of others are no different and close kin to the Jeffery Dahmers of this world if not worse than his like. He was insane beyond any standard, he had not the mental facilities to comprehend right and wrong. Some people I know exist do sadistic things for the very SELFAWARE, FULLY AWARE enjoyment of the act and the benefits of it.
These scum come in many different forms on all sides and in all uniforms of all nations. Don't even try to justify lowlifes like this to me in any way, shape or form.
Right, so you're justifying those who were oppressed killing out of resentment?
To be honest, "oppression" can only be defined by ones perception so in response to this I am saying that I am justifying nothing because I do not know the details and exact meaning of oppression, especially in any specific situation. I simply asked a question in response to your question that made it clear you were able to justify "any" action people were willing to take when oppressed.
A very well written piece of work.
Scrat wrote: True, all egomaniacs are like that. Even if the US were to radically change the policies where it concerns the Arab world there is no guarantee of good relationships with what the result will be. There's always one bad apple in the bunch. I think that Arab states such as the Saudis have neglected their obligation to their people which creates the conditions for Osamas to sprout up. The US attitude towards the common Arab world is like salt in a wound.
To call them animals is a part of this attitude, people who are opressed will fight back any way they can even if it is barbaric. That has been proven time and again. Wouldn't you?
Thats really as kind as I can be concerning people that fly jumbo jets into buildings causing some to incinerate, burn alive or jump out 100 story windows because it beats the alternative. They never even tried diplomacy.
To call them animals is a part of this attitude, people who are opressed will fight back any way they can even if it is barbaric. That has been proven time and again. Wouldn't you?
Thats really as kind as I can be concerning people that fly jumbo jets into buildings causing some to incinerate, burn alive or jump out 100 story windows because it beats the alternative. They never even tried diplomacy.
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A very well written piece of work.
Scrat wrote: Got Americas attention didn't it? Sometimes self indulgent idiots need a fist for diplomacy.
I kind of stand behind the theory 9/11 was a reaction to an action. Seems the US has little interest in solving the problems it creates in the mideast so some people decided to do something about it.
Its important to remember that Al Queda don't actually represent any one, except for their own very extreme take on both islam and geopolitics. If you consider that even in their worst actions, Palestinians have never considered launching attacks on Irsael like those that were launched against the U.S. on that day. And the Palestians have far more concrete grieveances than the couple of thousands of members of Al Queda has, who generally are well educated and have a high level of social status in their own societies, they are not representative of oppressed people, they actually belong to the same class of people that is doing most of the oppressing in the first place.
What happened on September 11th was an atrocity against civilians that does not have any justification, I'm not excusing some of the questionable things that the U.S. has done over the years, but I can't accept the basic premise that the people of New York had it coming because their government is unpopular in certain segments of the Arab world, by that logic the response to September 11th would have been an immeadiate attack against say mecca or medina, collectively punishing Arabs for the actions for a few fanatics. The fact that the U.S. did not do or consider anything like that says a lot.
I kind of stand behind the theory 9/11 was a reaction to an action. Seems the US has little interest in solving the problems it creates in the mideast so some people decided to do something about it.
Its important to remember that Al Queda don't actually represent any one, except for their own very extreme take on both islam and geopolitics. If you consider that even in their worst actions, Palestinians have never considered launching attacks on Irsael like those that were launched against the U.S. on that day. And the Palestians have far more concrete grieveances than the couple of thousands of members of Al Queda has, who generally are well educated and have a high level of social status in their own societies, they are not representative of oppressed people, they actually belong to the same class of people that is doing most of the oppressing in the first place.
What happened on September 11th was an atrocity against civilians that does not have any justification, I'm not excusing some of the questionable things that the U.S. has done over the years, but I can't accept the basic premise that the people of New York had it coming because their government is unpopular in certain segments of the Arab world, by that logic the response to September 11th would have been an immeadiate attack against say mecca or medina, collectively punishing Arabs for the actions for a few fanatics. The fact that the U.S. did not do or consider anything like that says a lot.
"We are never so happy, never so unhappy, as we imagine"
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.