Rush Limbaugh vs Michael J. Fox

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:26 pm

what a wanker.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:35 pm

I saw this on T.V. - Rush L. is an idiot - he apologized, so what..

I support stem cell research.

Patsy

Mystery · Post by **Mystery** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:42 pm

I've never like Limbaugh at all. Most of his remarks are tasteless, inconsiderate, and uncalled for.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:45 pm

When I saw this on T. V. - I said to my husband - Rush take another pill

Idiot..

Patsy

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:47 pm

Who is Rush Limbagh, I hear a lot of you talking about him? Is he a radio guy or something? Sounds like he is just trying to say controversial and cruel things for notoriety and hence rating. Given that, slagging off people because of a very serious illness is in very poor taste, even if they are involved in politics, I can't remember anyone in Britain slagging David Blunkett (ex home secretary) for looking for sympathy by being inconviently blind, he did get well roasted for being a bad minister and having a kinda sordid love life, just like any other politician.

I do understand why people are reticent about stem cell research, and they have some very valid points that can't be glossed over, but as a science type person I would have to say that balancing it all up, stem cell research could lead to some really wonderful cures for horrible diseases affecting children and adults, and that as long as it is very tighly controlled in a reponsible, respectful manner the good outweighs the real quams people have about it. Thats my opinion anyway.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:51 pm

SnoozeControl;440879 wrote: I saw the video on youtube and it reduced me to tears. I had no idea MJF's illness had progressed that far and I think it was incredibly brave of him to show himself like that for a cause he obviously feels very strongly about. THEN I heard about Rush's comments and I'm absolutely livid.

Yeah, but are you still mad at me? I still miss you!

Adam Zapple · Post by **Adam Zapple** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:54 pm

The actor's visible symptoms and poignant message in the 30-second spots apparently aroused the ire of the conservative radio host, leading him to speculate that Fox either "didn't take his medication, or he's acting."

I have heard that MJF said in his book that he stops taking his medicine when speaking before committees and such in order to show the effects of the disease. I haven't read his book so I don't know if that's true but perhaps this explains the reference. Regardless, it was a stupid and insensitive thing for Limbaugh to say. I don't blame MFJ one bit for showing the full extent of his disease.

However, I do find it distateful that a politician would allow an such a provocative ad to be aired days before an election when it is full of half-truths and misleading statement. That McCaskill would use his disease to dishonestly "pull at the heartstrings" of voters in order to smear her opponent is relevant. And I wish MJF had made sure his facts were correct before making the ad.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:54 pm

SnoozeControl;440881 wrote: RL is a radio 'personality' that's very outspoken about everyone that he disagrees with and isn't above calling them insulting names. He hates conservationists, feminists, democrats... the list is nearly endless. And he's got a devoted following that blindly agree and even laugh when he says some really hateful things. I think he's one of the most loathesome men in this country.

Sounds like just another grumpy old misanthrope, we make those kinda guys walk round in parks and shout at children round here, its a better use of their talents. Now that you have forgiven me, any chance we can sing a duet? I've already embarressed myself. :rolleyes:

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:56 pm

Rush is a putz.

Michael J Fox was using his condition in an emotional ploy to gain gov't funding for research toward curing him (Fox).

I don't recall the wording, but Fox clearly misrepresented the gov't stand on stem cell research:

Federal funds do support stem cell research, just not embryonic stem cell research.

Embryonic stem cell research is not banned. It is not illegal. It is simply not funded by tax dollars.Rush is a putz.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:08 pm

Rush L. stated MJF exaggerated his condition - acting.? I don't think so..

I didn't care for Rush to immitate MJF.

Rush never really apologized for that insensative comment. my mistake..

But, Rush L. is bringing more attention to MJF's condition - now this is a National ad, and is getting powerful attention..

Patsy

Adam Zapple · Post by **Adam Zapple** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:21 pm

Accountable, add that it is not funded by federal tax dollars. States can fund ESC research if they wish. This isn't the first political ad to distort the position of an opponent but usually politicians don't use disabled people to sell that misinformation.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:23 pm

Patsy Warnick;440888 wrote: Rush L. stated MJF exaggerated his condition - acting.? I don't think so..

I didn't care for Rush to immitate MJF.

Rush never really apologized for that insensative comment. my mistake..

But, Rush L. is bringing more attention to MJF's condition - now this is a National ad, and is getting powerful attention..

Patsy
Right. We agree. Rush is a putz. What do you think about Fox lying for political purposes?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:25 pm

Adam Zapple;440892 wrote: Accountable, add that it is not funded by federal tax dollars. States can fund ESC research if they wish. This isn't the first political ad to distort the position of an opponent but usually politicians don't use disabled people to sell that misinformation.
I'd much rather see rich people buy doctors to do the research they value than buy politicians to use my money to buy the doctors.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:48 pm

I don't think MJF was lying for Politcal reasons.

I certainly think MJF went off his meds to emphasize the degree his condition has progressed. And perhaps MJF wasn't concerned or an advocate for Stem cell research until this disease was diagnosed?? unknown??

I'm stating Rush was a fool to immitate and state MJF was acting, and this was brought more attention to this ad.

Accountable - your stating anyone can be bought. Everything comes down to money$$.

Patsy

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:05 pm

Patsy Warnick;440900 wrote: I don't think MJF was lying for Politcal reasons.Then why was he lying?

Patsy Warnick wrote: I certainly think MJF went off his meds to emphasize the degree his condition has progressed. And perhaps MJF wasn't concerned or an advocate for Stem cell research until this disease was diagnosed?? unknown??

I'm stating Rush was a fool to immitate and state MJF was acting, and this was brought more attention to this ad.No argument here.

[quote=Patsy WarnickAccountable - your stating anyone can be bought. Everything comes down to money$$.Let me phrase my position more precisely (Good Lord that sounds pompous!

sorry). People choose who to give their money to. I would rather they give their money directly toward the actual research they support, rather than trying to get gov't funding.

I did not state anyone can be bought. I definitely implied that about politicians and researchers, though.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:31 pm

I was a big Limbaugh fan. Operative word in that sentence?

WAS

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:25 am

I used to listen to him. I still agree with some of his views. Doesn't make him less of a putz, of course.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:02 am

SnoozeControl;441131 wrote: Do you mean that in the true Yiddish way or the Americanized way? Because I don't think many people realize what putz really means.

Yes (I looked it up)

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:26 am

Accountable;441141 wrote: Yes (I looked it up)

This Jew commends you! :guitarist

zinkyusa · Post by **zinkyusa** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:03 am

You would think with all the issues RL has recently had to deal with in regards to his addiction to pain killers he'd be a bit more empathetic to others..Oh well he does have his ratings to consider.:rolleyes:

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:16 am

ZINKY

Screw his ratings - you don't mauch a person with a handicap or disease..

Rush was so meak and mild when he returned from his rehab - now he's back to being mouthy - take another pill Rush.

Screw his ratings..

Patsy

Slade1 · Post by **Slade1** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:34 am

Patsy Warnick;441415 wrote: ZINKY

Screw his ratings - you don't mauch a person with a handicap or disease..

Rush was so meak and mild when he returned from his rehab - now he's back to being mouthy - take another pill Rush.

Screw his ratings..

Patsy

Just the one pill? Why doesn't he take the whole bottle and do the world a favour?

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:28 pm

Slade1;441541 wrote: Just the one pill? Why doesn't he take the whole bottle and do the world a favour?

Well said Slade! :guitarist

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:32 pm

Slade1;441541 wrote: Just the one pill? Why doesn't he take the whole bottle and do the world a favour?

Oh no, no no. His last prescription was for Viagra! If he takes a whole bottle of those we'll have more little Rush Limbaugh freaks nipping at our ankles. Oh goodness, the thought of that is making me die!!!!

:wah:

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:39 pm

Have you all read Al Franken's HILARIOUS book..."Rush Limbaugh Is A Big, Fat Idiot?" Do yourself a favor and find it.

Adam Zapple · Post by **Adam Zapple** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:23 pm

Loud-mouthed, obnoxious conservatives should OD on pills but loud-mouthed, obnoxious liberals are hilarious? Do you really think there is a difference between Limbaugh and Franken? There was little uproar when George Clooney mocked Charlton Heston's for having Alzheimers, not to mention all the jokes at Reagan's expense when he had Alzheimers. No outrage or media coverage when Bill Maher said dogs are like retarded children. The double-standard is incredible.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:53 pm

You beat me to it, Adam. I'm opening a window.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:04 pm

Limpaugh is....................what the hell I cant think of anything repulsive enough to call him. What a jerkwad ! He wears blinders, ditto this ****head.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:22 pm

SnoozeControl;441934 wrote: I try to be open minded about loud-mouthed, obnoxious ass holes, no matter their political affiliation... I don't like any of them.

good. :yh_smiley

Adam Zapple · Post by **Adam Zapple** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:28 pm

Most of them - Limbaugh, Franken, O'Reilly, Matthews, Bill Maher, Dennis Miller - don't really bother me. They are just doing their thing, I don't have to agree or listen. They'll occassionally do or say something stupid but it doesn't make me rage with hatred or anything. Now, there are a few rabid mouths that seem to come unglued and unhinged and border on the psychotic. Those I don't like - Michael Savage and Keith Olberman are two that come to mind. The others I can take 'em or leave 'em. Life's too short.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:47 pm

Noone should mauch anyone with a disability or disease - it's that simple..

Adam - I don't see a thread for George Clooney mauching C. Heston - if there was I'd state the same.

Idiots - are they familiar with KARMA..

Patsy