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Hamster;443082 wrote: Forgive me if this has been done before but I would like to know what everyone thinks happens to us after we pass....

We have a lot of new members and I am on an opinion gathering mission.

I'll start......I believe the soul leaves the body to return to another one and work on another issue it needs to get right before finally ascending to a collection of souls that have reached their highest evolution.

What do you believe? Do you believe in a "Heaven" or any equivalent?


Yes, I'm pretty much the same. :)

I believe our souls move on. I think we find all the answers we need to know and we see mistakes we made and know how we could have done better. Then, as you say, we come back and work on another issue. I think people who are calm, sweet-natured, kindly are the old souls who have lived before and learnt many lessons. I think people who are like silly children throughout their lives are the new souls.

Its almost like human life. I think a new soul is like a baby. You spend that life learning about the ways of the world but are cushioned and protected. Those people are the ones who sail comfortably through life. Your next life is like a childs life. You make mistakes but you learn from them and life is not too harsh although less easy than it was. A life spent as a teenager and then as an adult are each lives where you learn and grow, you mature but you take some very hard knocks. Then as our soul moves towards the end of its spiritual life we are given the hardest lives of all. Who knows - maybe it's then that we come back as poor African farmers who are starving and who have to decide whether to sell their children into slavery or prostitution in order to feed the babies and stop the whole family from just starving to death.

I don't think there is a heaven or hell as such, just a place where we all go to. I think we have to learn about our mistakes and how to do better. Everyone will learn, although it may take some souls a long time to be rehabilitated before being returned.

However, what then? Once we have all learned our lessons and moved on to a higher plane? What happens to all our souls then? Is the Big Boom recreated? Do we start all over again? Is it just a game? Did the original Big Boom create chaos and we are all made from chaos? Do people with more good matter become positive matter and other people become a kind of anti-matter? Is the chaos being divided between good and evil? And again, what happens once the chaos has all been sorted? Is that the end of the game?

I really hope that when we die we firstly get all the answers that we crave and secondly, we understand the reason Why?!

Sorry for waffling. :rolleyes:
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Pinky;443106 wrote: No, you're not bonkers!!!

I think we all have a kind of 'soul memory' maybe, and that when you find one of the people you were attached to in a previous life, you feel a loyalty towards them that makes you stick with them, even if things are not the same this life around, if that makes sense:thinking: That is until you have achieved what you need to do, then you're free to move on.



If feel the same connection with you too mate, we're like peas in a pod!




pinky i totaly agree with that :D



my rich grandad believed in reincarnation .... so much so when he died he left all his money to himself :-3
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I'll start......I believe the soul leaves the body to return to another one and work on another issue it needs to get right before finally ascending to a collection of souls that have reached their highest evolution.



What do you believe? Do you believe in a "Heaven" or any equivalent?


That pretty much sums up my belief's Hammy. I don't believe we go to "heaven" or "hell" when we die. I don't think of death as the end. I consider it the beginning, a "rebirth" if you will. Then we get new lessons to learn. I do believe there is a supreme being or a "God" but not in the traditional description of a human form.



What happens once we learn all the lessons? I am not sure I could comprehend it all at this point in my life. I would like to think though that there is more to life and all its many facets than just random chaos. I tend to think we are more like energy, emotional and physical, working our way back home.



Sounds kinda "out there" I know but it's what makes sense to me. :-6




At Christmas I no more desire a rose

Than wish a snow in May's new-fangled mirth;

But like of each thing that in season grows. -Shakespeare
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Here goes nothing. It is my opinion that we all come from the same place and are all going to go to the same place - though I am not sure what this place is or if there is any place to go after death (and won't know until I do or don't go there). And. this (going or not going to ???) includes the good, the bad and the ugly. Sure, bad people exist but I have always felt that the concepts, ideas, imaginations, biblical texts (whatever you want to call it), of good and evil were just reasurring notions because there is a little of each (g &e) in every person and have thought that heaven and hell and fake constructs. Though I have forgotton much about eastern religions, I studied them 25 years ago, I think thi is the source of my ideas and it is reinforced by watching people, sometimes good people, who do bad things in certain situations. I guess it is fair to say my concept of good and evil does not have a heavan or hell or anyone with tail or beards. It is a combination of yin and yang plus whatever else and a sprinkle of Nietzsche (I read them all around the same time).
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Hamster, Pink,OCNBRZ,TELEPHOTO,

Everyone's pretty much stating the same thing, which I pretty much think along the same lines. Our soul's only borrow our bodies for the time we're her and the our soul's move on - I think as our soul's move on like a rolling snowball accumulating knowledge/wisdom and onto another position. I think our positions get calmer/easier - more tranquil position/existance.

I'm not afraid of my next position/job. I'm not afraid to die.

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Hamster;443082 wrote: Forgive me if this has been done before but I would like to know what everyone thinks happens to us after we pass....

We have a lot of new members and I am on an opinion gathering mission.

I'll start......I believe the soul leaves the body to return to another one and work on another issue it needs to get right before finally ascending to a collection of souls that have reached their highest evolution.

What do you believe? Do you believe in a "Heaven" or any equivalent?


I believe that if their is a God and that God had some purpose in your knowing what happens to you upon expiration,that God would make it clear to you what happens to you at death.Such questions should not trouble us ,we can never know them for sure,nor should we and lastly we can do nothing to alter the ways of God.
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Hamster;443395 wrote: Telephoto I agree that our concept of good and bad are just our perceptions of people's actions. I have seen as you say Good people doing bad and vice versa...

I also agree we are all going to the same place..I dont believe in an all powerful figure condoning or condemming what we have done in our lifetime...

Did I interpret you correctly?:-3


Hamster, great name (my first pet was a hamster), I think you just won at Bingo. Your interpretation of my thoughts is correct and I have always been this way. Even as a child while in CCD, I was raised Catholic, I thought biblical stories were science fiction and was more interested in the stain glass windows and the heavy-handed organist who my father called 'the fantom of the opera'. But I have no problem with sincere religious people because I have met so many good ones. Though I do get ornery when I meet hypocritical types like George W. Bush because of the obvious reasons.

I am typing at full speed and do not have time to post a smiling picture but added the link to my (unedited) myspace page:

http://www.myspace.com/richardmelvin

If you go to the 'View My pics' you will see some of the different types of art I have done through the years. I gotta go and am off to the haunted house. Trick or treat!!
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I believe that love is the ultimate motivating force that drives the universe. Even at the quantum level, we can witness love in terms of the various forces that hold things together. Gluons, gravitons, electrons and muons work together to make everything possible. An emergent result of this is the force of love.

We manifest physically to fulfill that love. My reason for believing this is simply because everything that is right to do feels good and brings pleasure and joy while everything that is wrong to do feels bad and brings misery and despair.

When the physical body dies, I believe the soul transfers itself to wherever it believes it will go after death. for some, this will be heaven. for others, they will enter another life. Others still will go to oblivion or hell. Whatever that soul believes will happen to it after death, there it will go. The quantum world shows that every possible option has an equal probability.

I believe our existence here in this physical manifestation is the result of the extent of our love and belief. The challenge of being here is simply to live life in the highest state of love. When we lose that love, we lose our way.
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I am one who likes to believe that we go "somewhere"..as in that movie from the 80s called Made in Heaven, starring Timothy Hutton and Kelly McGillis. Good movie...in a lame, schmaltzy sort of way.

His character dies, and goes to heaven..where he meets Kelly's character....a soul who has not yet been to earth yet. They fall in love, in heaven, then she gets her calling to earth. He follows, to try to find her again,

I think if I go somewhere, I am not sure I would want my soul to come back. At least if the place I go to is plesant.
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Hamster;443618 wrote: So are you saying that we dont all end up in one big "sea of souls/energy" because we each go to our own personal manifestation of our belief?


The physical manifestation of life is no less a part of the 'sea of souls/energy' simply because it is manifest. Physical matter is created by energy. Henceforth, we are constantly in that sea whether we are physical or otherwise.

What I am saying is that after experiencing death from our current experience of life, we will experience what we now believe we will experience after dying. Albeit, this is a simplification of the process.
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Hamster;443632 wrote: Marie I am intrigued by the idea we can spend our lifetimes here trying to find one particular soul....It seems to me this happens to some poeple who find them...and then there are others that spend all that time looking but never find them.


Aparently, the premise in this movie that he is given 30 years to find her, and if he does not find her by then, he never will find her again. They both, of course, go back as newborns. He does not "remember" his time in heaven while back on earth.

I love the movie though. And yes, they do find each other.
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Hamster;443637 wrote: Ok so we can change our experience after death by changing our life experience in the now??


By changing what we believe, not what we experience.
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OK, following through on the premise of a soul coming back as a new life. Have you ever met someone, and had a serious feeling you have met that person before, but actually have not.

Do you think this may be a "memory" of a soul we have met in heaven?
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Hamster;443644 wrote: Isnt our experience shaped by what we believe anyway? My head hurts!!




Our beliefs shapes what we observe and remember of our experiences. Both are fundamental but different things altogether.
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Going back to that movie I mentioned, when they do meet, the last thing you hear is her saying "You found me" or something like that.
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Marie5656;443645 wrote: OK, following through on the premise of a soul coming back as a new life. Have you ever met someone, and had a serious feeling you have met that person before, but actually have not.

Do you think this may be a "memory" of a soul we have met in heaven?


I have had that experience and I have experienced the feeling that I am thousands of years old.
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Hamster;443655 wrote: Ok I think I get it now...Our belief patterns are moulding our perception and our memories?? Which then changes how we percieve our "afterlife"??


You got it.:-6
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Hamster;443656 wrote: Yeah...I think I need to watch it now! :wah:


If you do, I would like to know what you think of it. It is not a serious, intellectual movie, but a good romance.
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Hamster;443659 wrote: Do you think we can also instantly dislike another soul? That feeling is one I have had too...


This does happen between souls. Again, it is dependent on the souls' perception of experience which is dependent on the souls' beliefs. Those souls that fully exist in a high state of love will not dislike another soul.
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I'm not sure if our personalities, or who we are now, really survive after we die, but I believe that there is some part of us that returns to where we come from. :-6
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Hamster;443082 wrote: Forgive me if this has been done before but I would like to know what everyone thinks happens to us after we pass....

We have a lot of new members and I am on an opinion gathering mission.

I'll start......I believe the soul leaves the body to return to another one and work on another issue it needs to get right before finally ascending to a collection of souls that have reached their highest evolution.

What do you believe? Do you believe in a "Heaven" or any equivalent?


oh crap!!, i will be here forever.........:thinking:
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