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Green Day got it in their heads to do a rock opera.

As a very popular band, they represent the vision of the world of the youth who listen to them. They have videos from their "opera" album American Idiot available on their website. In particular, I just watched the video for Jesus of Suburbia. I loved the song but am troubled by the video.

It is very disturbing. There are parts of it that I recognise as being the same in my youth but there is a new feeling to it. More despair. I'd like to know what other people think when they watch it. It actually makes me wonder how anyone survives their late teens to early twenties. And it makes me afraid for my daughter. It's generally called teenage angst but this video took it to a new level from what I remember.

Jesus of Suburbia

click on the title and select your bandwidth to watch.

Tell me your thoughts.
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koan;483916 wrote: Green Day got it in their heads to do a rock opera.

As a very popular band, they represent the vision of the world of the youth who listen to them. They have videos from their "opera" album American Idiot available on their website. In particular, I just watched the video for Jesus of Suburbia. I loved the song but am troubled by the video.

It is very disturbing. There are parts of it that I recognise as being the same in my youth but there is a new feeling to it. More despair. I'd like to know what other people think when they watch it. It actually makes me wonder how anyone survives their late teens to early twenties. And it makes me afraid for my daughter. It's generally called teenage angst but this video took it to a new level from what I remember.

Jesus of Suburbia

click on the title and select your bandwidth to watch.

Tell me your thoughts.


They want $20 to join the idiot club, before they'll play it. I'm not that big an idiot. If there's another link...
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alobar51;484303 wrote: They want $20 to join the idiot club, before they'll play it. I'm not that big an idiot. If there's another link...


no. just click 'videos' at the bottom and select the Jesus of Suburbia video
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koan;484314 wrote: no. just click 'videos' at the bottom and select the Jesus of Suburbia video
Koan I did JUST that......... Nuttin happens but a click'n sound......................... but no video or nuttin??????
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BTS;484330 wrote: Koan I did JUST that......... Nuttin happens but a click'n sound......................... but no video or nuttin??????


the centre of the screen changes and asks you what bandwidth you have. once you click one it calls up your viewing program.
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Sex, Drugs, RR and loneliness............what else is new for teens. I could not understand the words though.
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nvalleyvee;484337 wrote: Sex, Drugs, RR and loneliness............what else is new for teens. I could not understand the words though.


Ah yes sex drugs r&r.....



koan.....SO

Whats new?

Not a Greenday fan but have heard and seen lots worse songs and videos thru my trip from the 60's 70's 80's and 90's, then into the new millenium.



Could it be with a teenager on the rise you are seeing it different than you remembered???



Just a thought.........



Green Day - Jesus Of Suburbia Lyrics



[Part 1: Jesus Of Suburbia]



I'm the son of rage and love

The Jesus of Suburbia

From the bible of "none of the above"

On a steady diet of soda-pop and Ritalin

No one ever died for my sins in hell

As far as I can tell

At least the ones I got away with



But there's nothing wrong with me

This is how I'm supposed to be

In a Land of Make Believe

That don't believe in me



Get my television fix

Sitting on my crucifix

The living in my private womb

While the moms and Brads are away

To fall in love and fall in debt

To alcohol and cigarettes and Mary-Jane

To keep me insane, doing someone else's cocaine



But there's nothing wrong with me

This is how I'm supposed to be

In a Land of Make Believe

That don't believe in me



[Part 2: City Of The Damned]



At the center of the earth

In the parking lot

Of the 7-11 where I was taught

The motto was just a lie

It says "Home is where your heart is"

But what a shame

'Cause everyone's heart

Doesn't beat the same

It's beating out of time



City of the dead

At the end of another lost highway

Signs misleading to nowhere

City of the damned

Lost children with dirty faces today

No one really seems to care



I read the graffiti

In the bathroom stall

Like the holy scriptures in a shopping mall

And so it seemed to confess

It didn't say much

But it only confirmed that

The center of the Earth

Is the end of the world

And I could really care less



City of the dead

At the end of another lost highway

Signs misleading to nowhere

City of the damned

Lost children with dirty faces today

No one really seems to care



[Part 3: I Don't Care]



I don't care if you don't

I don't care if you don't

I don't care if you don't care [x4]



Everyone's so full of ****!

Born and raised by hypocrites

Hearts recycled but never saved

From the cradle to the grave

We are the kids of war and peace

From Anaheim to the Middle East

We are the stories and disciples

Of the Jesus of Suburbia

Land of Make Believe

And it don't believe in me

Land of Make Believe

And it don't believe

And I don't care! (woo woo woo)

I don't care (woo woo woo)

I don't care (woo woo woo)

I don't care (woo woo woo)

I don't care!



[Part 4: Dearly Beloved]



Dearly beloved, are you listening?

I can't remember a word that you were saying

Are we demented or am I disturbed?

The space that's in between insane and insecure

Oh therapy, can you please fill the void?

Am I retarded or am I just overjoyed?

Nobody's perfect and I stand accused

For lack of a better word, and that's my best excuse



[Part 5: Tales of Another Broken home]



To live and not to breathe is to die in tragedy

To run, to run away

To find what to believe

And what I leave behind this hurricane of ****ing lies

I lost my faith to this

This town that don't exist



So I run, I run away

To the light of masochist

And I leave behind this hurricane of ****ing lies

And I walked this line

A million and one ****ing times

But not this time!



I don't feel any shame

I won't apologize

When there ain't nowhere you can go

Running away from pain

When you've been victimized

Tales from another broken home
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I love Green Day.

I'm not complaining about their song...or their video.

by disturbing, I mean that I recognise the extreme fringes of the kids I hung out with in that video. I hoped that it would get to be less and less of them but it looks like it's becoming normal.

I hung out with kids that slashed their arms and wanted to look like death. It was not "fun" for any of us.
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It reminded me of the Who's Quadrophenia, oddly (oddly since that CD was mentioned on FG only a week ago). The lyrics are just as angry, the behaviour's uncannily alike except the Who were more into violence and less into women.

Greenday: There's nothing wrong with me, this is how I'm supposed to be in a land of make believe that don't believe in me.

Greenday: Everyone is so full of **** born and raised by hypocrites, hearts recycled but never saved from the cradle to the grave. We are the kids of war and peace from Anaheim to the middle east, we are the stories and disciples of the Jesus of suburbia.

I grew up with a similar credo.

Feverish, feeling the amphetamine racing in his blood. High and free, more pills in his pocket, thick smoke in the light, the hum and drone of the amplifiers. Nearly here. People wedged him in, packing closer, tighter, not restless but waiting, anticipating, willing the first harsh chord and the violence of the moment, cut out of time... Waiting, waiting, now, now, now, now. NOW. And then, at its climax, the guitar smashed and pulped and splintered against the boards, the electric scream of its dying, breaking open the amplifier, the loudest wound. The crush and chaos and then the screech and whistle of feed back, bleeding through the system endlessly: anyway, anyhow, anywhere.Tull: Well the lush separation unfolds you and the products of wealth push you along on the bow wave of the spiritless undying selves. And you press on God's waiter your last dime as he hands you the bill and you spin in the slipstream, timeless, unreasoning, paddle right out of the mess.

Who: We're not gonna take it, never did and never will, don't want no religion as far as we can tell! We ain't gonna take you, Never did and never will, we ain't gonna take you, we forsake you, gonna rape you, let's forget you, better still.

Tull: Lean upon Him gently and don't call on Him to save you from your social graces and the sins you used to waive. The bloody Church of England, in chains of history, requests your earthly presence at the vicarage for tea; and the graven image you-know-who, with His plastic crucifix - he's got him fixed - confuses me as to who and where and why, as to how he gets his kicks. Confessing to the endless sin, the endless whining sounds, you'll be praying till next Thursday to all the gods that you can count.'We just go with the gang', two young lads said. 'No, we don't do much else ****. They couldn't want us home on a Bank holiday, would they? So we go wherever the gang is going'. Most of the scooter-riding youths are from clubs around London. All seemed to know that Hastings would be the centre of the August Bank holiday clashes. Most of them had arrived in groups of up to 30 and there way considerable mixing between the groups, so they all knew the general plan of campaign. The weekend pattern was simple. Early morning scuffles and minor incidents. By one o'clock with the public houses open and crowded with youths and girls, the incidents became suddenly more serious. A few drinks too many and someone would start Rocker-hunting or alternatively Mod-hunting. The pack would follow, growing in a few minutes to many hundreds.Tull: How do you dare tell me that I'm my Father's son when that was just an accident of birth? I'd rather look around me, compose a better song 'cos that's the honest measure of my worth. In your pomp and all your glory you're a poorer man than me as you lick the boots of death born out of fear.

The drugs were there and the violence was always the edge which drove it. The scene was always working-class youth, too, which places it as central to the core of society then as Greenday's reflections comment on the average and the typical rather than the edgy exception now.

Nothing's different at all.
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I guess it bothers me more because my 11 year old daughter listens to them and though she doesn't understand the lyrics completely yet, I don't like the idea of her being like the guy who cuts his hand open to express his pain.

I listen to them and don't think twice about it. "Oh, yeah. I remember that." But I don't like the idea of her feeling that way.
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