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and WHY did this schitzo felon ex-con have a gun?????
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JAB wrote: And because it is much too easy to buy a guy on the streets. This is not a person who would have had the gun registered! my question was rhetorical...i know how criminals get guns, and of course as a convicted felon he would not be allowed by law to possess one, certainly not register. it just infuriates me that nutjobs like this have weapons, and makes the life of a cop very dangerous, not to mention that of the citizen/public.
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i just wanted to say it says i edited JAB's post above, that's because i accidentally typed on her post!! ooops! 
sorry JAB!
sorry JAB!Tragedy?
Scrat wrote: Some typos just beg to have fun poked at them!!!actually that WAS funny! 
...only $5. eh?
...only $5. eh?Tragedy?
It is really sad to see and hear that a life could be cut soshort by a psycho with a gun. I hope that he gets the help he needs. Starting out with a lifetime in prison with no chance for parole.
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lady cop wrote: and WHY did this schitzo felon ex-con have a gun?????
Because people like this will always find a way to get weapons, no matter what laws are in place or how hard we try to make it for them.
Yet another reason why conceal/carry is a good idea (not that this 15 year old should be allowed to carry, but he could have freaked out anywhere).
Because people like this will always find a way to get weapons, no matter what laws are in place or how hard we try to make it for them.
Yet another reason why conceal/carry is a good idea (not that this 15 year old should be allowed to carry, but he could have freaked out anywhere).
I probably posted that in an ambien trance-soryy
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Scrat wrote: a bullet in the back of the head behind the courthouse.
I'm all for it. :driving: better known among cognoscenti as a double- tap...2 bullets. but we are a great nation because of due process. nobody understands the disgust and anger for criminals quite like cops do, but we must understand how the law works. and respect it. well, i don't always respect it, my DA office is a bunch of _ussies, and i am very angry when i work a case for 2 years and they plea it out.
I'm all for it. :driving: better known among cognoscenti as a double- tap...2 bullets. but we are a great nation because of due process. nobody understands the disgust and anger for criminals quite like cops do, but we must understand how the law works. and respect it. well, i don't always respect it, my DA office is a bunch of _ussies, and i am very angry when i work a case for 2 years and they plea it out.
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Scrat wrote: I say fight fire, with fire. Shoot this animal in the eye. Get medievil on his ass and on criminals in general.
How much crime out there is from repeat offenders? No, we will never eradicate crime but we can sure curtail it. Nothing like making an impression with a nightstick or when needed like they do it in China, a bullet in the back of the head behind the courthouse.
I'm all for it. :driving:
Gettin' a little macho aren't we? The rule of law doesn't mean that we should become lawless when things don't go our way. It's a nice sentiment but how many innocent people are you willing to give up to satisfy your anger and disgust?
How much crime out there is from repeat offenders? No, we will never eradicate crime but we can sure curtail it. Nothing like making an impression with a nightstick or when needed like they do it in China, a bullet in the back of the head behind the courthouse.
I'm all for it. :driving:
Gettin' a little macho aren't we? The rule of law doesn't mean that we should become lawless when things don't go our way. It's a nice sentiment but how many innocent people are you willing to give up to satisfy your anger and disgust?
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Scrat wrote: Is this guy innocent? He pulled a gun, pointed it at the girl and killed her. There are many clear cut cases such as this. All he needs is a bullet in the back of the head. Period.
If a few innocent people get caught up in the system it would be unfortunate. It is a chance I would be willing to take so long as I could walk the streets in safety at night and not have to worry about the person behind me at the ATM. Load the laws in favor of the victims, not the victimizers.
There are innocent people in the system now, what's the difference?
By the way, when laws are not respected, held in contempt and generally not subject to enforcement by the citizens or the courts/judicial system then we are lawless.
Presently there is a small proportion of people that hold the law in contempt. They are known as criminals.
If you are so liberal with other people's lives then, perhaps, your parents misnamed you and they should have been calling you god. You don't seem to want to understand that as long as people are terrified, such as you are, then the criminals have won. What are you going to do about freeing some of these innocents that are in jail? If you do nothing then you are no better than the criminal. What marks the honest man above the criminal is that he/she will fight for the rights of those that are wrongly imprisoned. Societies such as the one that you are describing as wanting to belong to are now in the dung heap of history and non-existent.
Do you think that people will give you a medal for saying that you should overstep the boundaries of law that make the civilised world civilized?
The laws were created to make all people equal. Those that think that they re above the law are the one's that make up most of the prison population that are really criminals.
If a few innocent people get caught up in the system it would be unfortunate. It is a chance I would be willing to take so long as I could walk the streets in safety at night and not have to worry about the person behind me at the ATM. Load the laws in favor of the victims, not the victimizers.
There are innocent people in the system now, what's the difference?
By the way, when laws are not respected, held in contempt and generally not subject to enforcement by the citizens or the courts/judicial system then we are lawless.
Presently there is a small proportion of people that hold the law in contempt. They are known as criminals.
If you are so liberal with other people's lives then, perhaps, your parents misnamed you and they should have been calling you god. You don't seem to want to understand that as long as people are terrified, such as you are, then the criminals have won. What are you going to do about freeing some of these innocents that are in jail? If you do nothing then you are no better than the criminal. What marks the honest man above the criminal is that he/she will fight for the rights of those that are wrongly imprisoned. Societies such as the one that you are describing as wanting to belong to are now in the dung heap of history and non-existent.
Do you think that people will give you a medal for saying that you should overstep the boundaries of law that make the civilised world civilized?
The laws were created to make all people equal. Those that think that they re above the law are the one's that make up most of the prison population that are really criminals.
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[QUOTE=Scrat]We call them "One percenters". The one percent of the population that causes all of the problems and make their kin, scumsucking lawyers, rich at the expense of the law abiding citizens.
One per centers was a term that was created by the infamous Sonny Barger, president of the hell's angels. It had to do with the fact that he and his friends were ostracized by biking society in the early years of the fifties for being the cause of problems that were happening at bike rallies. The were accused of creating problems by the bike magazines of the day which stated that societyshould not blame bikers in general but the 1 percent of them that were troublemakers. He and his friend went out, got drunk and had 1 percenters tatooed on them, hence, the 1 percenter myth.
They also have another designation. "Victims of an opressive and dyfunctional society". Go figure. :yh_cry
The Minutemen could be considered to be the 1 percenters of the day by the crown. But they aren't and never have been similar to the 1 percenters of this day. Oppressive and dysfunctional society meant that they tried to right the wrongs that they saw happening around them. They tried to right the wrongs which is very disimilar to what you seem to be doing. It is the individul citizens when they got together that were able to create the freedom that you enjoy today. Freedom has to be fought for in order to be maintained. If you don't struggle to keep it as it should be then there is no reason to whine about how miserable things are because you are the problem and not the solution..
Pretty close to the mark. If I am walking minding my own business and some fool muggs me I cannot defend myself. If I assault him as a defensive measure I will be thrown in jail and probably sued. The criminals have more rights than I do, that would make anybody nervous.
See above.
Nothing. I pay so much in taxes and insurance ect to keep 1 percenters on the street or in cushy living conditions I can't afford to do anything about it.
As long as you believe that everything is better for them then you are the dysfunctioning element in society. The cushy prisons that you are raving about are strictly for white collar crimes. The elite monied people.
Talk to OJ Simpson lately? Probably not, he was out at the golfcourse looking for "the real killers" right :yh_rotfl
Here in America some people are "more equal" than others. It has a lot to do with how thick you wallet is or in the case of Ted (hic) Kennedy, who you are.
Can't argue too much with that but it is arguable.
If laws are not enforced and not respected, WHY DO WE HAVE THEM!!!
If there weren't laws then no one would know what to do and the little citizens would be no better off than serfs. The Magna Carta was the start of laws for the little guys. It had to be fought for in order to be maintined. here is always some crooked types that want everything and if you don't want to preserve your right to be free then tell it to the judge.
One per centers was a term that was created by the infamous Sonny Barger, president of the hell's angels. It had to do with the fact that he and his friends were ostracized by biking society in the early years of the fifties for being the cause of problems that were happening at bike rallies. The were accused of creating problems by the bike magazines of the day which stated that societyshould not blame bikers in general but the 1 percent of them that were troublemakers. He and his friend went out, got drunk and had 1 percenters tatooed on them, hence, the 1 percenter myth.
They also have another designation. "Victims of an opressive and dyfunctional society". Go figure. :yh_cry
The Minutemen could be considered to be the 1 percenters of the day by the crown. But they aren't and never have been similar to the 1 percenters of this day. Oppressive and dysfunctional society meant that they tried to right the wrongs that they saw happening around them. They tried to right the wrongs which is very disimilar to what you seem to be doing. It is the individul citizens when they got together that were able to create the freedom that you enjoy today. Freedom has to be fought for in order to be maintained. If you don't struggle to keep it as it should be then there is no reason to whine about how miserable things are because you are the problem and not the solution..
Pretty close to the mark. If I am walking minding my own business and some fool muggs me I cannot defend myself. If I assault him as a defensive measure I will be thrown in jail and probably sued. The criminals have more rights than I do, that would make anybody nervous.
See above.
Nothing. I pay so much in taxes and insurance ect to keep 1 percenters on the street or in cushy living conditions I can't afford to do anything about it.
As long as you believe that everything is better for them then you are the dysfunctioning element in society. The cushy prisons that you are raving about are strictly for white collar crimes. The elite monied people.
Talk to OJ Simpson lately? Probably not, he was out at the golfcourse looking for "the real killers" right :yh_rotfl
Here in America some people are "more equal" than others. It has a lot to do with how thick you wallet is or in the case of Ted (hic) Kennedy, who you are.
Can't argue too much with that but it is arguable.
If laws are not enforced and not respected, WHY DO WE HAVE THEM!!!
If there weren't laws then no one would know what to do and the little citizens would be no better off than serfs. The Magna Carta was the start of laws for the little guys. It had to be fought for in order to be maintined. here is always some crooked types that want everything and if you don't want to preserve your right to be free then tell it to the judge.
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as a small part of the justice system i have to say that as much as i am frustrated by _ussy DA offices who ask for a death penalty and then take a plea for a 15 year sentence, by a female who ADMITTED to me she beat her own grandmother to death with a hammer, PLUS we had ALL the evidence, we still have the best system in the world. we must protect the rights of those in legal jeopardy of losing their freedom or being executed. sure it can suck sometimes. i have arrested people i would personally like to euthanize. and it is a fact that money can buy you a good defense. but abortions of lady justice like the oj trial are few and far between. i am as "law and order" as it gets, but we need to be circumspect.
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JAB wrote: No, I don't imagine it would make you very happy. Curious though, is there ever a time in your opinion where a plea is justified? I'm thinking along the lines of perhaps trying to spare a child from testifying or something similar.Hello JAB 
..usually pleas have more to do with saving the state money and time for a long trial. and if a child is not really up to testifying, he/she can be videotaped, or interviewed by a professional who will testify on their behalf. a child would never be forced.
..usually pleas have more to do with saving the state money and time for a long trial. and if a child is not really up to testifying, he/she can be videotaped, or interviewed by a professional who will testify on their behalf. a child would never be forced.