Nanny 911

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:30 am

Ok for lack of anything good to gap out in front of, I watched this show last nite.

This rather uptight nanny comes into the home and tells you what you are doing wrong raising your kids.

Ok last nite was the family from Hades, 5 5 year olds Cute to look at, but evilness to watch.

They did not sleep in their own beds at all times, and in their rooms they had tv's which were allowed to be left on 24/7

They had nasty attitudes and had no quams about hitting each other, hitting their parents, threatening to stab their parents with pencils, throwing things, stomping on game boards while others were playing and the final straw was in anger dumping a cup of water on the mother.

The father slowly started to accept Nazi Nanny's dicipline and took away the TV,s and learned to tell the kids they were wrong, tell them they could discuss the inicdent and remove them from the incident on 5 min time out. Mother well she so was the cause of the outbursts as she thought everything was merely a phase. And allowed the attitudes and violence. She used the excuse of "oh spend a day in my shoes with quints at age 5" yada yada (wimp!)

Eventually mother came around and the kids really changed for the better. Ok granted this is TV and gawd what do we know really goes on right.

But my point is...when in gods name did things change where kids rule parents? It so seems to be the way of the last decade or so. It appauls me. Now I admit there are times when I am told... you let your kid get away with too much, ok neither kid struck out at me in anger in a physical way, never did they curse at me to my face and never did I just use the "ignore it it will go away" tactic. I raised 2 very well rounded genuinely cool girls.

Now parenting is no snap but holy cow if those kids were mind I would have to eat my young. Maybe it was the flouride in the water.

Did anyone catch that flick??

Oh yeah dad at first thought Nazi nanny was a bit harsh and asked where she hailed from and she said Wales and he said oh this is a cultural difference and Nazi Nanny lost it and said hellions are hellions no matter the culture.

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:46 am

LOL! Yeah, I just love this show! Mostly because I deal every day with what we in education call "dry cleaner parents". Parents who have done absolutely nothing to raise their children to be responsible and respectful, then dump them off at school, expecting them to be completely cleaned up, polite, and educated by the end of the day! Sheesh!

I once told a mother that she must make her daughter do to school in order for me to do my job of educating her. (The daughter had 65 unexcused absences) The mother replied, "I can't tell her to get up, she'll throw a tantrum and punch holes in the walls!"

Basically, since her daughter is 15, the battle is already lost. This battle must be fought and won before the age of 3. But I told her....and you might think this is harsh, but it's the wave of the future....that she will either get her daughter to school, or I will throw her in jail under the "Mandatory Child Attendance Law" (first offense $500 fine, second offense 6 months in jail, third offense possible loss of children due to child-in-need-of-services laws). That woke her up a bit.

My wife and I both set rules and give consistent consequences. Kids need rules, they'll tell you they don't but they really want them. It's a sign that you care about them if you discipline them. some parents want to be their kid's best friend. That's OK, if it doesn't go too far and the parent is still able to be a parent. Kids can get all the friends they want, it's parents they need.

Let's face it, every once in a while, if you are doing your job as a parent, your child will be angry with you.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:49 am

Minks, we get that programme too, every week they send a different nanny into a household where the children rule the roost.

Pretty compelling viewing, but would'nt i just love to swing those kids around by the earlobes

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:15 pm

Jives wrote: LOL! Yeah, I just love this show! Mostly because I deal every day with what we in education call "dry cleaner parents". Parents who have done absolutely nothing to raise their children to be responsible and respectful, then dump them off at school, expecting them to be completely cleaned up, polite, and educated by the end of the day! Sheesh!

I once told a mother that she must make her daughter do to school in order for me to do my job of educating her. (The daughter had 65 unexcused absences) The mother replied, "I can't tell her to get up, she'll throw a tantrum and punch holes in the walls!"

Basically, since her daughter is 15, the battle is already lost. This battle must be fought and won before the age of 3. But I told her....and you might think this is harsh, but it's the wave of the future....that she will either get her daughter to school, or I will throw her in jail under the "Mandatory Child Attendance Law" (first offense $500 fine, second offense 6 months in jail, third offense possible loss of children due to child-in-need-of-services laws). That woke her up a bit.

My wife and I both set rules and give consistent consequences. Kids need rules, they'll tell you they don't but they really want them. It's a sign that you care about them if you discipline them. some parents want to be their kid's best friend. That's OK, if it doesn't go too far and the parent is still able to be a parent. Kids can get all the friends they want, it's parents they need.

Let's face it, every once in a while, if you are doing your job as a parent, your child will be angry with you.

Sure makes one wonder why people have kids??? I mean if your going to raise them in the "I don't give a crap" manner then what is the point.

I understand parents get tired and after awhile feel it is futile to confront the kid(s) and give up, but they are not giving up they are giving in. And you got it Jives, kids need guidance how will they get anywhere without it. Just like your job or anyones job, how would you function if you were not told how to do things. In my years of volunteering (too many to count) I have met many a parent I wanted to pistol whip for the way they raise their kid like it is other peoples jobs to dicipline and guide them. Is that the meaning of Girl Guides ahahaha oh don't get me started there...

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:18 pm

abbey wrote: Minks, we get that programme too, every week they send a different nanny into a household where the children rule the roost.

Pretty compelling viewing, but would'nt i just love to swing those kids around by the earlobes

You got that righ Ab's and I wanted to take last nites "mother" and give her a darn good shaking for being a total moron.

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:45 pm

Oh yes seen this program and I agree that there are some lazy parents out there.

We have a paddle that my neighbor made for me. My husband named it Excalibur and my son knows we mean business if we mention Excalibur.

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:02 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: Too many unfit parents dragging up kids with no respect

Dont want to sound like a looney Nazi but...Sterelise all at birth ,then ,when your old enough ,apply for a licence to be a parent ...Voila

yeah sorry ...a bit over the top

Heh Heh Funny you gotta apply to be a pet owner

cars · Post by **cars** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:54 pm

Yes my wife & I watched a few of these woeful sagas. It just bares out another recent post we had about "common sense", or the lack there of!!! The children were sooooooo bad, and the parents had no common sense to know they were being ruled by their children. Anyway, the nasty nanny came on the seen, & we thought oh ya, she is going to correct them in a week. Suprisingly, after the week the children were noticiably better behaved, with even some resembalance of "order" in thier lives. The "nanny" even cried after her stay was over, but being the cinic I am, I can't help wonder how much of it was for the TV cameras? :wah:

Cars :driving:

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:10 pm

cars wrote: I can't help wonder how much of it was for the TV cameras? :wah:

Cars :driving:

Yeah, and I can't help but wonder how much of that behavior is gbeing retained and how much they will revert to their old ways after the cameras leave.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:04 pm

yep and they call it reality TV huh!!! Riiiiight

hotsauce · Post by **hotsauce** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:23 pm

I think they bribe them with candy/toys etc. until the last camera man walks out the door.

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:26 am

I love this programme as it always makes me feel that I did a good job as a father.

These kids have truly been allowed to become the kids from hell with only the parents to blame.

All classic cases of the tail wagging the dog

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:39 am

There's also a programme called 'Honey we're killing the kids' which is similar but more of a lifestyle changing programme....it's very interesting.

I actually despair that some parents have NO IDEA how to bring up kids...OK we all make mistakes...we don't have any practise at parenting, but where did good old common sense go ??

Just to pick up on the point about parents / freinds.....I'm afraid my daughter has taken this approach with her daughter...now she's 15 it's backfiring on her.