Information on Turkeys

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:15 am

onsekiz;498769 wrote: We call it Türkiye. Land of Türks

Ireland is Irlanda, it's similar to the English version

Some people think that Irisih people like the Turks because Ottoman Empire helped Ireland. Doesn't make any sense to me actually

Oh we like everyone (well nearly) even the Germans. We are a happy-go-lucky bunch really. :wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:16 am

onsekiz;498772 wrote: Do you know that Ataturk's body is being preserved in it's original shape. In case he returns to like :wah:

Really? Is it in Ankara or Istanbul then?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:17 am

Lulu2;498779 wrote: Hush...I've been to Ireland...you're all likeable!

Bye

Hush, I like that. See you later.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:18 am

Another Turkey fact. Domestically raised turkey's have a predominetly white meated breast because they are not allowed to fly. Wild turkey's have a darker meated breast because they can and often do fly. The more the muscles in fowls are used the darker the meat.

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:18 am

Galbally;498775 wrote: ....and St. Brendan, sure didn't he discover America himself, but there was no Whiskey there so he came back.

Lots of people discovered America - but Columbus was a teetotaller so he remembered where he'd been.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:19 am

Lulu2;498771 wrote: When I was in Turkey, I occasionally told merchants I was Irish...I seemed to get better prices! (And it was fun to do the accent....) :wah:

Besides...EVERYONE likes the Irish!

Oh we are good bargainers, we make very good capitalists you know, we like the money thing. Those middle easterners love a good haggle, they are hard to beat.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:22 am

Chookie;498786 wrote: Lots of people discovered America - but Columbus was a teetotaller so he remembered where he'd been.

Point taken. (hic) Where were we?

There is a phrase you know, "God invented drink to stop the Irish from taking over the world". I dunno what it means, as I have never been sober. :wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:24 am

YZGI;498785 wrote: Another Turkey fact. Domestically raised turkey's have a predominetly white meated breast because they are not allowed to fly. Wild turkey's have a darker meated breast because they can and often do fly. The more the muscles in fowls are used the darker the meat.

Interesting, thats why Ducks and Geese have that darker flesh I suppose, its interesting really isn't it, how much mileage you can get out of the Christmas dinner, I wrote a poem about Brussels Sprouts the other day as well, but thats diverting us from the Turkey.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:25 am

Galbally;498793 wrote: Interesting, thats why Ducks and Geese have that darker flesh I suppose, its interesting really isn't it, how much mileage you can get out of the Christmas dinner, I wrote a poem about Brussels Sprouts the other day as well, but thats diverting us from the Turkey.
There are many layers to brussel sprouts, I can see where you would get good mileage on that one also.:wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:27 am

onsekiz;498792 wrote: In Ankara there'a huuuge building called Anitkabir.

http://images.google.com/images?q=anitk ... a=N&tab=wi

Oh, thats pretty impressive actually, it seems huge.

Here it is.

Thanks!

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:29 am

YZGI;498796 wrote: There are many layers to brussel sprouts, I can see where you would get good mileage on that one also.:wah:

I wonder if they were really invented in Brussels, (you know the mini cabbages). You know that the Belgians claim that they invented "French Fries" and that the French nicked it off them? We call them Chips of course. But perhaps they should really be called Brussels Fries (its not really as catchy is it?)

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:30 am

onsekiz;498798 wrote: People who have been to Ireland always talk about the Irisih pubs. How fun they are etc. I want to have a beer in an Irisih pub some day :yh_coffee

Oh god, there will be no shortage of beer alright. A good pint of Guinness is something you can only really get in an Irish pub in Ireland.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:35 am

onsekiz;498805 wrote:

Gotta go know. It was really fun to chat with you Galbally ,:driving:

You too onsekiz, I better go as well, things to do!

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:39 am

Galbally;498801 wrote: I wonder if they were really invented in Brussels, (you know the mini cabbages). You know that the Belgians claim that they invented French Fries and that the French nicked it off them? We call them Chips of course. But perhaps they should really be called Brussels Fries (its not really as catchy is it?)
I dont know if it is true or not but I saw a show on food t.v. that claimed pizza was invented in America. Who knows.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:42 am

YZGI;498811 wrote: I dont know if it is true or not but I saw a show on food t.v. that claimed pizza was invented in America. Who knows.

Its a minefield I tell ya. The Italians always claim Pizza was invented in Naples, the Germans that the Hamburger was invented in Hamburg, and the Russians that Chicken Kiev was actually invented in Volgograd. I think the Chinese probably invented all these things years ago and then forgot them again. :-2

Actually here is one for you. Its reputed that Mayonnaise was invented by an Irishman working as a chef for Napoleon and who came from County Mayo (hence the name) that may be rubbish, but its intriguing. Why don't great generals or World leaders have food named after them any more, like Napoleon Brandy, Beef Wellington, or erm Caesar Salad. What about a Schwartzkopf steak or a Stalin Salad? (it doesn't sound great reallt does it?)

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:19 pm

Interesting...the stuff of legends. 'Bally, I've heard that CHICKEN MARENGO was invented by a local chef, for Napoleon, and the famous "twice-cooked" fries were created when Napoleon was LATE, causing the frantic cook to try re-heating the potatoes, thus discovering that they'll PUFF!

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:15 pm

Actually Pinky, the whole early Christian church was based on (stolen) Mithraic rituals.

It even still exists in such offshoots of Christianity as the various Baptist churches. The total immersion in water which they use is a corruption of the Taureum of Mithras.

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:21 pm

They'll deny it of course.

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:27 pm

Pinky;499110 wrote: It'd be the worst thing I've done in church yet

Amateur. I went into a church once -

then it fell down.

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:30 pm

Here, from Turkeys (the birds) to Mithras in 8 pages is a bit slow.

Can't we hurry it up a bit?

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:49 pm

To be fair................it was pretty much a ruin anyway.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:26 pm

Kathy Ellen;499060 wrote: Onsekiz, Irish pubs are fabulous. When I was younger, my Uncle Jim and I used to meet my cousins for lunch at a warm and wonderful pub in Dublin called "Molloys." It's near Amien St. Station across from the North Star Hotel. I have such fond memories of that pub. It was dark and smoky and full of Donegal people. It's still there now but not as nice as it used to be. The Irish pubs have everything...some are very noisy and full of life and others are great for intimate chats. Guinness or a Smithwicks and crisps go well together.

Oh I know that place, sure I worked near to Amiens street, yeah its a nice place, the city is full of em I suppose. Tayto (Irish Crisps) and Guinness are an unbeatable combination.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:27 pm

Lulu2;499041 wrote: Interesting...the stuff of legends. 'Bally, I've heard that CHICKEN MARENGO was invented by a local chef, for Napoleon, and the famous "twice-cooked" fries were created when Napoleon was LATE, causing the frantic cook to try re-heating the potatoes, thus discovering that they'll PUFF!

Your contributions are always illuminating.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:29 pm

Pinky;499064 wrote: Crikey, so the Mithraic traditions contributed to xmas as well? It's astounding how many practices seem to fit into and around xmas!

Right, now I guess I'd better read the rest of the thread and how it's developed!

Its been a fun thread, though we have tended to wander a bit, getting onto Attaturk's place of rest, the possible invention of mayonnaise and the warmth of the Irish boozer, eclectic is what I'd say.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:30 pm

Chookie;499114 wrote: Here, from Turkeys (the birds) to Mithras in 8 pages is a bit slow.

Can't we hurry it up a bit?

Actually my good man it went to Mithras in the first post! I like mixing things up a bit.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:31 pm

Chookie;499112 wrote: Amateur. I went into a church once -

then it fell down.

Well for goodness sake don't go into any tasteful ones please! :wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:37 pm

Pinky;499163 wrote: I'm all for eclectic! And as for the warmth of Irish boozers, say no more!:-6

Whats been happening tonight pinky? (apart from andy asking personal questions?). I was out at a funk band, pretty good actually, met up with folk and that. So Mithras, would he be an important deity in the wicca pantheon or would he just something of interest?

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:49 pm

Interesting, indeed...but did he invent condiments?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:56 pm

Pinky;499170 wrote: Yup, he's of interest to me anyway!

Any Pagan has their own pantheon(s) that they take interest in, and I do tend to like all the classical ones, though I'm more of a norse follower myself. The cult of Mithras is pretty interesting though, they mainly consisted of male followers, being a cult of the sun (male energy) and was found through eastern europe as well as rome.

Interesting, the one I know and remember from Norse are Odin, Thor, Freya, and Loki. So I suppose that the idea is that each pantheon though slightly different are expressing the same type of idea in terms of spirit or life force, or divine concept. What about the Celtic ones, I know from my own place we have Lugh, and the DeDannan and lots and lots of deities, my sister is of course very much into the same ideas as yourself, and I find them interesting I must admit. Oh I was driving my sisters boyfriend (he's from London) around the country the other day, and I brought him to a local Dolmen, its a pretty cool place, 4,500 years old. And then we say the Wren (or Wran) Boys (remember I told you about them, its the Celtic St. Stephens Day tradition, much older than the Christian thing obviously). It was the local young lads dressed in wicker costumes and dancing with a dead wren, they had set up a PA for them with lots of Irish Jigs and Reels, the kids are just having fun, but he was pretty blown away, he doesn't get much of that in Harlesdon, I was thinking that you would have enjoyed that. Maybe next year eh?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:00 pm

Here's a picture of it for you, its about 2 miles from my house.

It was pretty cool, I spent mid summers eve under once, with a bit of whiskey, a few smokes, and a friend. :rolleyes:

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:01 pm

And did the earth move? :sneaky:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:08 pm

onsekiz;499182 wrote: Hey thank you

Although I don't drink so often I really want to feel that atmosphere. I'm planning to visit Istanbul in the spring, I know there are Irish pubs in Istanbul (don't know how are they comparing to pubs in Ireland) Maybe I can visit one of them with my friends. Irish pubs are very popular amongst young people here.

And who knows maybe one day I can visit Ireland

Indeed, you would love Ireland, its very pretty, and the West Coast is spectacular, very different from the Mediterranean countries. I would love to go to Istanbul actually. Its of course a city gloriously rich in tradition and culture, and has now had so many different influences and events, they say its somewhere you must see if you are into history (which I am), I would love to stand at where that great Mosque stands that was built on the mount of the Cathedral of St Sophia, see the city walls founded by Constantine who paced them out by walking, see the great bridge across the bosphourous straits between Europe and Asia, it must be quite a place.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:09 pm

Lulu2;499195 wrote: And did the earth move? :sneaky:

There were some tremors, though not enough to knock the capstone off, which is good cause it weighs a hundred and twenty tons. We would have been squished little naughties. :wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:11 pm

Pinky;499196 wrote: Oh definately!!!

Lugh is one of my deities that I honour no matter what the festival...though I honour Taranis (saxon version of Thor) and Odin as well.

I love the Celtic legends, the Tuatha De Danaan and all that!

It's one of the reasons I'd love to see Newgrange, being the supposed resting place of Nuada.

I think I'd like talking to your sister as well as you very much indeed!

Oh you would get on good I would say, though she has gone big into the classics because of her academic studies, but she is still a committed wiccan, so you would have a lot in common.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:15 pm

Pinky;499200 wrote: Oh WOW!!! Will you take me to see it when I come over? Pretty please?

Of course you can, it doesn't always look as mystical as that, but it is a pretty amazing site, there is another one about 10 miles further down the road, Newgrange is about 2 hours drive away, and sure there is a lot more than that around here as well. I shall be reading up on my Celtic lore so I can keep up, I just remember the DeDannan and the Fianna from what our teachers used to tell us in school, the ones who were interested used to tell us all the stories about the Ulster Cycle, you know the Cattle Raid of Cooley one, about Fionn McCool, and the battles with the Formorians and all that, the Dagda who were they again, I am trying to remember? Anyway, it was fantastic stuff, I'm glad that we never completely have lost that side of ourselves here.