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I experienced it just a while back when I named DH's cat "Lola"...

heard or read the name about 6 times in the next few days...



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I was thinking the pic in that article is the type of avatar accountable would use :D
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"The reason for this is our brains' prejudice towards patterns. Our brains are fantastic pattern recognition engines, a characteristic which is highly useful for learning, but it does cause the brain to lend excessive importance to unremarkable events. "

+++++++++++ Thus leading us into old superstitions such as "deaths come in threes" or the idea that random incidents are impossible and must all be the result of conspiracies!
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Interesting article.
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Val, that really is interesting. It's happened to me several times. :-6
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I remember coming across this before, and of course we all experience it, me and pinky did just the other day! It is certainly true that more than almost anything else, what human beings are good at is recognizing "patterns", and obviously if you are a predator species such as us, being able to reconize say the difference between a forest background and a Puma sleeping in a tree, or the pattern of a preys movement as it walks across a confusingly regular landscape is a highly important skill. Unfortunatly for us, we are so good at recognizing patterns, and our brains are so used to doing it, that we also have the ability to "see" patterns in random things, the obvious one is staring at clouds, after a while you start to see dogs, castles, jesus etc. It also happens if you look at snow, at white noise on a TV screen, in almost any random formation of elements, your brain, if left to look at it long enough will try to make sense of it, bu putting it in shapes for you, that are familiar, its an interesting phenomenon alright. I think that this is what is going on here, as we also do this with abstract information, and not just visual images.
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Pinky;511786 wrote: So for instance, If I'd been looking at holiday brochures for Greece or something, I'd automatically pick up that someone was talking about their holiday there last year because it was already floating around in my brain somewhere? Do we just naturally home in on things because they're already within our thought processes at that time?


Yes, it's called the cocktail party effect - it's the way you pick your name out if it's spoken in a room full of noise.
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Pinky;511786 wrote: So for instance, If I'd been looking at holiday brochures for Greece or something, I'd automatically pick up that someone was talking about their holiday there last year because it was already floating around in my brain somewhere? Do we just naturally home in on things because they're already within our thought processes at that time?


I think that if something is on your mind, and then you see something related or even the same, you brain makes that conection and its fun and interesting, and then you are subconciously looking out for it, and it tends to crop up again and again, especially if there is an emotional thing involved with it, as we get a very strong sense of memory and connection from things we associate with certain emotions, such as an ex-lovers perfume or after shave, a parents favorite book or TV program, or something like that. The of course sometimes things do happen with amazing coincidnce. Actually in nature there are many patterns and numerical functions that get repeated over and over and over again, and as yet we are not sure why, for instance the number Pi, which is 22/7 is repeated constantly in the structure of natural things, the proportions of the spiral, the ratio of bumps on pine cones, the way a galaxy moves. The natural log E is also repeated over and over again in nature. These things seem inherent in the fabric of life and reality as is symmetry, and also a thing called "chirality" which is about right-handedness and left-handedness, which tends scientists to think that the concept of slightly offset duality in all things is a cornerstone of the universe. To my mind it seems to me, that there is something in mathematics that is absolutely fundamental to existence, not in that we invented it, but that it describes some deeper reality that we cannot grasp fully, its one that has been knawing at philosophers and scientists since plato's time. Its quite something.
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What the hell is going on in here ?
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Hamster;511845 wrote: Natural law that we have been taught to ignore and dismiss as unimportant.




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Pinky;511827 wrote: Wow, that makes a lot of sense. So in a way, synchonicity is a perfectly natural thing in actuality? If the rest of the universe works to repetition, then it stands to reason that influences in our everyday lives or thought patterns will do the same!

Thanks for posting that Gal, I've read a bit about certain numerical values being repeaded throughout nature and something about the ancient Egyptians building to these, though I'm a bit of a numbers dunce and find it hard to take in!:o

That's pretty intersting though. Synchronicity - natural law or inexplicable phenomenon?


I think that its probably true that the laws that make the way the universe the way it is, are also the ones that determine how the molcules in our brains are connected to each other, and how the electrons fire in our neurons, so like everything else we are part of this deep pattern and we naturally "percieve" certain aspects of it, without realizing or understanding it. One of the big things is symmetry, which people don't tend to think about, but if you do think about it, a person is almost perfectly symmetrical as their left hand side is almost the same as their right (some say that our sense of beauty is based on symmmerty), and this is repeated in flowers, dogs, stars, planets, spiral galaxies, whirlpools, caterpilars, water molcules, oxygen atoms, electrons, light rays, all that. Almost everything, (even apparently unsymmertical things like rocks and mountains develop a certain symmetry and of course their constituent parts exhibit symmetrry (i,e, calcites, quartzs, all regular solids) and certainly all living things (apart from amoebas and such like) are symmetrical, even mushrooms are symmetical, its kinda trippy when you think about it.

So left handedness and right handedness are inbuilt for some reason, its seems to be natures way of doing things, but aha, also there is in chemistry a field called "chirality" which describes whether certain complex molecules have a more "right" or "left" handed aspect to their structure. Now when scientists looked at this they thought that it would be 50/50 obviously, but it isn't you know, its much more left handed than right handed for some reason in certain molecules and no one is quite sure why, its a puzzle alright. These are the things that intriuge me about science, its the little puzzles and clues that nature leaves lying around for some reason and that we pick up on.
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Pinky;511867 wrote: Apparently, some people use more of the left side of their brain than the right, and vise versa, determining whether we'll be more artistic than logical, etc etc. Could this link to the chirality thing?


I don't know, I am not sure that it continues up into higher levels of organization, but its interesting that our brains are divided in this way in the first place, left and right, (and also of course they are symmetrical as well if you look at them, though the different hemsipheres take on differing roles in conciousness). In fact we really understand very little at all about conciousness, what it actually is, why we are concious and other things are not, or what it implies, we don't even have a clue as to the mechanism except to presume that its a function of the complexity in our brains, but I don't think this is really adequate, another very big mystery really. If you think about the duality thing it manifests itself everywhere, left-right, male-female, proton-electron, positive-negative, matter-antimatter etc etc, another intriguing thing, why do fundamental things seem to be organized so much in twos? Is this the most efficient way? Are there other possible ways that matter and eneryg can work.

I think what is very intriguing is to think why any of this should be the way it is, and not some other way. i.e. is this the only way that say life can be organized, is there some fundamental governing principal that is the only way things can be, or are there many, and we just happen to live in this one? No one knows.
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Post by valerie »

It's REALLY strange, because as I said (posted) that earlier... I've

noticed the name "Lola" come up again... The lady I did some work

for last Friday gave me 2 boxes of old magazines, like a year or

better old, and in one of them, an article about someone whose

baby is named Lola!!



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Just as a little update on this one, I have had 3 wrong number calls (all different callers) in the past 24 hours, there you go again. Things going in 3s, strange init? :thinking:
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