They're in the planning stages. What do you think about it?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... nworld-hed
Womb transplants?
Womb transplants?
I watched a programme a couple of weeks ago about a pair of twins, one of them had ovary's that were egg free and shriveled, the other twin donated her ovary for her sister and she went on to have a child. I think it's a wonderful idea, so many people go without children due to problems and having children myself i would never want that gift denied for anyone.
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"After practicing on baboons and goats, doctors in Saudi Arabia reported in 2002 that they had performed the first human uterus transplant on a 26-year-old woman whose womb had been removed six years earlier because of hemorrhaging after the birth of her first child."
I wonder how many baboons and goats died in this testing...testing a "solution" for a NON-life threatening situation. :-5
OK..having said that, my opinion is that adoption is a wonderful option for infertile people who want to experience parenthood. There are so many fertility treatments (including surrogacy) that I wonder why womb transplant is even necessary.
I wonder how many baboons and goats died in this testing...testing a "solution" for a NON-life threatening situation. :-5
OK..having said that, my opinion is that adoption is a wonderful option for infertile people who want to experience parenthood. There are so many fertility treatments (including surrogacy) that I wonder why womb transplant is even necessary.
My candle's burning at both ends, it will not last the night. But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends--It gives a lovely light!--Edna St. Vincent Millay
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Lulu2;517702 wrote: "After practicing on baboons and goats, doctors in Saudi Arabia reported in 2002 that they had performed the first human uterus transplant on a 26-year-old woman whose womb had been removed six years earlier because of hemorrhaging after the birth of her first child."
I wonder how many baboons and goats died in this testing...testing a "solution" for a NON-life threatening situation. :-5
OK..having said that, my opinion is that adoption is a wonderful option for infertile people who want to experience parenthood. There are so many fertility treatments (including surrogacy) that I wonder why womb transplant is even necessary.
I understand where your coming from in regards to testing on animals, but Lulu the option of surrogacy is not an option for many people, the waiting list over here is so long and there have been cases where the surrogate has changed her mind while pregnant or having just had their child.
I never really gave a lot of thought to people who couldn't have children until i was in that position myself, although i was lucky enough to already have 2 children. I think after seeing myself the devastation that infertility can cause, i still feel that it would be like a gift sent from god for many people.
I wonder how many baboons and goats died in this testing...testing a "solution" for a NON-life threatening situation. :-5
OK..having said that, my opinion is that adoption is a wonderful option for infertile people who want to experience parenthood. There are so many fertility treatments (including surrogacy) that I wonder why womb transplant is even necessary.
I understand where your coming from in regards to testing on animals, but Lulu the option of surrogacy is not an option for many people, the waiting list over here is so long and there have been cases where the surrogate has changed her mind while pregnant or having just had their child.
I never really gave a lot of thought to people who couldn't have children until i was in that position myself, although i was lucky enough to already have 2 children. I think after seeing myself the devastation that infertility can cause, i still feel that it would be like a gift sent from god for many people.
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Lulu2;517702 wrote: "After practicing on baboons and goats, doctors in Saudi Arabia reported in 2002 that they had performed the first human uterus transplant on a 26-year-old woman whose womb had been removed six years earlier because of hemorrhaging after the birth of her first child."
I wonder how many baboons and goats died in this testing...testing a "solution" for a NON-life threatening situation. :-5
OK..having said that, my opinion is that adoption is a wonderful option for infertile people who want to experience parenthood. There are so many fertility treatments (including surrogacy) that I wonder why womb transplant is even necessary.
My thoughts EXACTLY!
I tend to think if you can't get pregnant then you aren't supposed to. That it's not in your cards. Go adopt instead. I don't believe in surrogacy or in vitro or even organ transplants but that's for another thread. I think having someone else's uterus in your body is disgusting.
As I speak, I am possibly walking around with cadaver skin in my body. It was an internal operation and I didn't know the whole procedure. I found out a few years later that it could have been mesh they used or...cadaver skin. I try hard not to think about it as it is very upsetting to me that I might be carrying someone else's "parts" inside me. I feel that way to a degree about blood too but I would accepted it if needed and would donate mine if they would accept me. There's something about denying the *personal* life force within the cells of our organs and in our blood, to me.
I wonder how many baboons and goats died in this testing...testing a "solution" for a NON-life threatening situation. :-5
OK..having said that, my opinion is that adoption is a wonderful option for infertile people who want to experience parenthood. There are so many fertility treatments (including surrogacy) that I wonder why womb transplant is even necessary.
My thoughts EXACTLY!
I tend to think if you can't get pregnant then you aren't supposed to. That it's not in your cards. Go adopt instead. I don't believe in surrogacy or in vitro or even organ transplants but that's for another thread. I think having someone else's uterus in your body is disgusting.
As I speak, I am possibly walking around with cadaver skin in my body. It was an internal operation and I didn't know the whole procedure. I found out a few years later that it could have been mesh they used or...cadaver skin. I try hard not to think about it as it is very upsetting to me that I might be carrying someone else's "parts" inside me. I feel that way to a degree about blood too but I would accepted it if needed and would donate mine if they would accept me. There's something about denying the *personal* life force within the cells of our organs and in our blood, to me.
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Just to clarify...what I said is that there are viable treatments for infertility (in vitro, surrogacy, etc.) in addition to adoption. I support them all.
My candle's burning at both ends, it will not last the night. But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends--It gives a lovely light!--Edna St. Vincent Millay
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Magenta flame;518037 wrote: Well they can have mine ,, I certainly don't need it anymore:wah:
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I'd worry about antirejection medications and the terrible effect it could have on a developing fetus.
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I'd worry about antirejection medications and the terrible effect it could have on a developing fetus.
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Looking forward to the announcement of a successful fetal transplant.
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Lulu2;517702 wrote: There are so many fertility treatments (including surrogacy) that I wonder why womb transplant is even necessary.
Including surrogacy... yes. That would seem to be far more cost-effective, and
far less physically *dangerous*.
Including surrogacy... yes. That would seem to be far more cost-effective, and
far less physically *dangerous*.
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I carry a donor card and am willing to donate any part of my body to help others. If I still had my womb they would be welcome to take that too.
I looked into egg donation once but before I could make a decision I developed an illness that took a long time to diagnose, by then it was too late (I was too old) and whilst waiting for a diagnosis one of the possibilites was a hereditry condition.
I used to donate blood until those who had received a transfusion who not able to give any more.
They way I see it is that what makes me the person I am is my personality, my mind, my life experiences, my soul - my body is such a small part of the whole that after my death I would be proud and happy to let someone else have the chance to live a full life.
I looked into egg donation once but before I could make a decision I developed an illness that took a long time to diagnose, by then it was too late (I was too old) and whilst waiting for a diagnosis one of the possibilites was a hereditry condition.
I used to donate blood until those who had received a transfusion who not able to give any more.
They way I see it is that what makes me the person I am is my personality, my mind, my life experiences, my soul - my body is such a small part of the whole that after my death I would be proud and happy to let someone else have the chance to live a full life.
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Don't worry; it only seems kinky the first time
She is one fit bitch innit, that Immy
Don't worry; it only seems kinky the first time
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IUI (insemination) = $2000-$5000 per cycle (a month)
IVF = $14000-$17000 (per cycle, a month)
Adoption = $5000 (foster kids) - $ 40,000 (newborns)
Surrogacy = $ 80,000+
Not really cost effective I would say. ANd I would know because this is a reality for me.
IVF = $14000-$17000 (per cycle, a month)
Adoption = $5000 (foster kids) - $ 40,000 (newborns)
Surrogacy = $ 80,000+
Not really cost effective I would say. ANd I would know because this is a reality for me.
HBIC
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Imladris;518660 wrote: I carry a donor card and am willing to donate any part of my body to help others. If I still had my womb they would be welcome to take that too.
I looked into egg donation once but before I could make a decision I developed an illness that took a long time to diagnose, by then it was too late (I was too old) and whilst waiting for a diagnosis one of the possibilites was a hereditry condition.
I used to donate blood until those who had received a transfusion who not able to give any more.
They way I see it is that what makes me the person I am is my personality, my mind, my life experiences, my soul - my body is such a small part of the whole that after my death I would be proud and happy to let someone else have the chance to live a full life.
I like what you say here. My father died waiting on a heart and a kidney. If I can save the life of one person, and save the heartache of one family, I'd be honored, and am a donor because of that.
I do see the points about other options as related to a womb transplant, however if a family is desperately trying to have children, then perhaps they should be the ones to decide what options are right for them. I'd be a little concerned about the health risks that come with any transplant, especially with this type, in which the transplanted organ will be home to a baby for 9 months.
I looked into egg donation once but before I could make a decision I developed an illness that took a long time to diagnose, by then it was too late (I was too old) and whilst waiting for a diagnosis one of the possibilites was a hereditry condition.
I used to donate blood until those who had received a transfusion who not able to give any more.
They way I see it is that what makes me the person I am is my personality, my mind, my life experiences, my soul - my body is such a small part of the whole that after my death I would be proud and happy to let someone else have the chance to live a full life.
I like what you say here. My father died waiting on a heart and a kidney. If I can save the life of one person, and save the heartache of one family, I'd be honored, and am a donor because of that.
I do see the points about other options as related to a womb transplant, however if a family is desperately trying to have children, then perhaps they should be the ones to decide what options are right for them. I'd be a little concerned about the health risks that come with any transplant, especially with this type, in which the transplanted organ will be home to a baby for 9 months.
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DesignerGal;518690 wrote: IUI (insemination) = $2000-$5000 per cycle (a month)
IVF = $14000-$17000 (per cycle, a month)
Adoption = $5000 (foster kids) - $ 40,000 (newborns)
Surrogacy = $ 80,000+
Not really cost effective I would say. ANd I would know because this is a reality for me.
Guesstimate the cost of a "womb transplant", which is what I was comparing
to the cost of "surrogacy". In the UK, a "surrogate mother" is perhaps more
of a volunteer than a mercenary, only getting "reasonable expenses" (see
COTS and other websites) for her services. What might that be? £10,000?
£20,000? It costs the NHS over £25,000 to do a kidney transplant, and that
doesn't include on-going costs. I bet a "womb transplant" would be much,
much more, as well as being a pretty dodgy prospect for the recipient,
especially if the uterus transplanted was actually expected to work!
Various articles, including this one:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007 ... 785013.htm
seem to put the cost (when this is actually possible, note!) at around $500,000,
which does make $100,000 look pretty good value (and *far* safer!).
IVF = $14000-$17000 (per cycle, a month)
Adoption = $5000 (foster kids) - $ 40,000 (newborns)
Surrogacy = $ 80,000+
Not really cost effective I would say. ANd I would know because this is a reality for me.
Guesstimate the cost of a "womb transplant", which is what I was comparing
to the cost of "surrogacy". In the UK, a "surrogate mother" is perhaps more
of a volunteer than a mercenary, only getting "reasonable expenses" (see
COTS and other websites) for her services. What might that be? £10,000?
£20,000? It costs the NHS over £25,000 to do a kidney transplant, and that
doesn't include on-going costs. I bet a "womb transplant" would be much,
much more, as well as being a pretty dodgy prospect for the recipient,
especially if the uterus transplanted was actually expected to work!
Various articles, including this one:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007 ... 785013.htm
seem to put the cost (when this is actually possible, note!) at around $500,000,
which does make $100,000 look pretty good value (and *far* safer!).
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Bill Sikes;518740 wrote: Guesstimate the cost of a "womb transplant", which is what I was comparing
to the cost of "surrogacy". In the UK, a "surrogate mother" is perhaps more
of a volunteer than a mercenary, only getting "reasonable expenses" (see
COTS and other websites) for her services. What might that be? £10,000?
£20,000? It costs the NHS over £25,000 to do a kidney transplant, and that
doesn't include on-going costs. I bet a "womb transplant" would be much,
much more, as well as being a pretty dodgy prospect for the recipient,
especially if the uterus transplanted was actually expected to work!
Various articles, including this one:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007 ... 785013.htm
seem to put the cost (when this is actually possible, note!) at around $500,000,
which does make $100,000 look pretty good value (and *far* safer!).
Yeah but my guess insurance (at least in US) would pay for a transplant. They do already with other organs. Fertility treatments and birth alternatives (sorrogacy) are NOT covered. None of my expenses are covered except bloodwork. Which only costs me about $30.00 a month anyway. It kind of sucks.
to the cost of "surrogacy". In the UK, a "surrogate mother" is perhaps more
of a volunteer than a mercenary, only getting "reasonable expenses" (see
COTS and other websites) for her services. What might that be? £10,000?
£20,000? It costs the NHS over £25,000 to do a kidney transplant, and that
doesn't include on-going costs. I bet a "womb transplant" would be much,
much more, as well as being a pretty dodgy prospect for the recipient,
especially if the uterus transplanted was actually expected to work!
Various articles, including this one:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007 ... 785013.htm
seem to put the cost (when this is actually possible, note!) at around $500,000,
which does make $100,000 look pretty good value (and *far* safer!).
Yeah but my guess insurance (at least in US) would pay for a transplant. They do already with other organs. Fertility treatments and birth alternatives (sorrogacy) are NOT covered. None of my expenses are covered except bloodwork. Which only costs me about $30.00 a month anyway. It kind of sucks.
HBIC
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Darn it, DG! If I could...I'd be your surrogate, if it'd help!
My candle's burning at both ends, it will not last the night. But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends--It gives a lovely light!--Edna St. Vincent Millay
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Lulu2;519095 wrote: Darn it, DG! If I could...I'd be your surrogate, if it'd help!
I couldnt afford it anyway.
I couldnt afford it anyway.
HBIC
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Oh, I think we could work out a fee schedule? 
Say....let me baby sit?
Say....let me baby sit?My candle's burning at both ends, it will not last the night. But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends--It gives a lovely light!--Edna St. Vincent Millay