Why does the USA want to destroy the world?

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:41 pm

According to the BBC the USA is determined to kill us all by not subscribing to the climate 'change' hysteria that's reached such a pitch in GB that our PM has to defend his use of aeroplanes.

Personally, I think global warming is a load of crap. And even if it isn't I don't bloody care.

What's posterity ever done for me?

Regards,

shrike.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:51 pm

A little insight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_skeptic

Personally I would have to learn more about it before I were to form an opinion about it...

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:56 pm

I think it's a huge steaming pile of bullshit and I am further sick to death of everyone and their brother blaming the US for EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG IN THE WORLD. It's tiresome, and BORING.

Soon as the rest of you become perfect and infallible, let me know. I'll listen to you crap on my country all day.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:04 pm

BabyRider;522468 wrote: I think it's a huge steaming pile of bullshit and I am further sick to death of everyone and their brother blaming the US for EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG IN THE WORLD. It's tiresome, and BORING.

Soon as the rest of you become perfect and infallible, let me know. I'll listen to you crap on my country all day.

I'm not crapping on your country, BR.

That's the British Broadcasting Corporation's job. And Gee!...do those bastards love doin' it!

Reegards,

shrike.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:09 pm

shrike;522481 wrote: I'm not crapping on your country, BR.

You posted it and your title to this thread was a pretty blatant clue too.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:10 pm

K.Snyder;522462 wrote: A little insight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_skeptic

Personally I would have to learn more about it before I were to form an opinion about it...

That's the beauty of the global warming scam.

We ordinary people have no way of making a judgement. 'Scientists' have decided that the world's in peril and the only way to avoid worldwide catastrophe is for the USA to drop to its knees and ask for forgiveness.

Something I very much hope it will not do.

Regards,

shrike.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:17 pm

BabyRider;522485 wrote: You posted it and your title to this thread was a pretty blatant clue too.

A clue to what, BR?

Don't be an idiot. Reread my posts and put your gun away. Or at least point it at someone else.

Best regards,

shrike.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:24 pm

China is currently the second largest emitter of greenhouse gases, and is expected to become the largest by 2030

Kyoto Protocol

CHINA'S biggest industrial polluters have been ordered to halt all new projects in an effort to force them to take immediate action to meet environmental standards.

The companies include four of China's six biggest energy groups, with strong links to some of the most powerful Communist Party leaders.

The order follows China's failure to meet its targets for saving energy and controlling pollution for last year, a failure the Government has admitted.

Energy consumption per unit of gross domestic product rose by 0.8 per cent in the first half of last year, and China's environmental record has been severely criticised by signatories of the Kyoto Protocol on emissions.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 17,00.html

:yh_think

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:31 pm

K.Snyder;522513 wrote: :yh_think

Quite, Mr Snyder! Quite!

Regards,

shrike.

Rain · Post by **Rain** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:37 pm

What's wrong with the world isn't just America's fault. I too grow weary of "the world" blaming the U.S. for everything.

As far as global warming in concerned, yes, we ALL must be environmentalists if we want our children and grandchildren to be able to breathe a decent lung full of air. As well as the animals of the world who have no choice in matters.

To be so nonchalant about matters of the earth (our only home) is frightening to me. Do you mean to say that you (shrike) are NOT concerned with the world's matters?

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:09 pm

shrike;522502 wrote: A clue to what, BR?

Don't be an idiot. Reread my posts and put your gun away. Or at least point it at someone else.

If I have to explain the "clue" part to you, I find it very amusing that you're calling me the idiot. And if I was "pointing" my gun at you, you'd already be on a slab.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:16 pm

Rain;522536 wrote: What's wrong with the world isn't just America's fault. I too grow weary of "the world" blaming the U.S. for everything.

As far as global warming in concerned, yes, we ALL must be environmentalists if we want our children and grandchildren to be able to breathe a decent lung full of air. As well as the animals of the world who have no choice in matters.

To be so nonchalant about matters of the earth (our only home) is frightening to me. Do you mean to say that you (shrike) are NOT concerned with the world's matters?

I'm sorry if my posts worried you, Rain.

I was trying to make a point about how impotent we ordinary people are when we try to make a judgement about matters beyond our competence, e.g. so called 'global warming'.

Do you understand the 'science'?

I know I don't.

What I do know is that the predictions are based on computer models and computer models are not written by Nature or God.

All I'm suggesting is that a little skepticism is called for.

I'm alarmed at the readiness with which 'scientists' are prepared to greet every catastrophic prediction with open arms.

That's all.

Regards,

shrike.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:25 pm

BabyRider;522575 wrote: If I have to explain the "clue" part to you, I find it very amusing that you're calling me the idiot. And if I was "pointing" my gun at you, you'd already be on a slab.

Hmmm.

Sorry, BR! You're not an idiot.

You're a moron.

And I've never been happier knowing that there's an entire ocean between me and the USA.

Best regards,

shrike.

PS You DO live in the USA don't you?

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:28 pm

Start breading more phytoplankton.

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:34 pm

K.Snyder;522596 wrote: Start breading more phytoplankton.

That beats name calling every day of the week.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:35 pm

I'm thinking the question was more of a rhetorical question aimed in the defense of the USA...

I would have to hope anyone with the least little bit of intelligence would understand their implications in the term "The U.S.A" in regards to everyone associated with it being on a plot to destroy the Earth...And as for not having any knowledge of the effects of such an event there isn't blatant proof in the testimony of those whom harbor those very same accusations.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:36 pm

K.Snyder;522596 wrote: Start breading more phytoplankton.

That's one possible answer, of course, Mr Snyder.

I prefer holding in my farts.

But that's something I can only do for so long.

As Mrs shrike will confirm.

Regards,

shrike.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:40 pm

Clint;522604 wrote: That beats name calling every day of the week.

I rather enjoy name-calling.

It's an entirely human thing to do.

Sometimes it's the only thing to do.

Regards,

shrike.

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:50 pm

shrike;522618 wrote: I rather enjoy name-calling.

It's an entirely human thing to do.

Sometimes it's the only thing to do.

Regards,

shrike.

I see...we must do what ever is human and satisfies our need for fun. Self restraint isn't fun.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:54 pm

Well, in the first place, the USA does not want to destroy the world.

Stupid statement, if you'll pardon my saying so.

Secondly, the US woud like very much to support envoironmental causes...

And, finally, we hope to stop whatever agenda YOU seem to have going....

Rain · Post by **Rain** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:04 pm

Ok shrike, let me get this right.

You don't believe there is any such thing as global warming and that the U.S. is responsible for all the world's woe's?

Just want to understand you.

BTW, name calling is juvenile. Please act with respect to others if you want to be taken seriouly.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:04 pm

Clint;522634 wrote: I see...we must do what ever is human and satisfies our need for fun. Self restraint isn't fun.

I've never found self-restraint to be fun, no.

Exciting, yes. But never 'fun'.

Regards,

shrike.

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:09 pm

shrike;522649 wrote: I've never found self-restraint to be fun, no.

Exciting, yes. But never 'fun'.

Regards,

shrike.

I think you have mistaken this for a forum where people like to roll around in the gutter.

Have a wonderful evening.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:11 pm

Rain;522648 wrote: Ok shrike, let me get this right.

You don't believe there is any such thing as global warming and that the U.S. is responsible for all the world's woe's?

Just want to understand you.

There may well be global warming and we human beings may be contributing to it but the science is dubious as to how much that contribution is. Point one.

The USA is seen by the rest of the world as the source of all the world's woes but I think that's nonsense. Point two.

Do you understand me now, Rain?

Regards,

shrike.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:17 pm

Clint;522656 wrote: I think you have mistaken this for a forum where people like to roll around in the gutter.

The English gutters I've rolled around in have rarely contained people who point guns at me.

Well...maybe in London, Birmingham and Manchester. And Nottingham, Sheffield and Stoke. And York, Coventry and Leeds....

Regards,

shrike.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:19 pm

SHRIKE

You need to go away -

Patsy

American style - with BR's gun or the English way with a foot up your ass..

Either way is fine with me

Patsy

Rain · Post by **Rain** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:24 pm

Do you understand me now, Rain?

Yep. You don't seem to be very nice. You seem to have an attitude problem. You seem to be treating this forum as if we're a bunch of stupid ppl. That's too bad.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:32 pm

Patsy Warnick;522678 wrote: SHRIKE

You need to go away -

Patsy

American style - with BR's gun or the English way with a foot up your ass..

Either way is fine with me

Patsy

Oh dear.

That grand USA welcome soon turned sour.

Abandon Iraq and the democratic nations of the world will pay a terrible price, Patsy. The USA is the hope of the world's freedom-loving people. It always was and it still is.

Have a good day.

shrike.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:37 pm

Rain;522689 wrote: Yep. You don't seem to be very nice. You seem to have an attitude problem. You seem to be treating this forum as if we're a bunch of stupid ppl. That's too bad.

I'm not very nice (according to Rain).

I have an attitude problem (according to Rain).

I treat this forum as if it's members are stupid (according to Rain).

Dare I ask a question?

Who the hell is Rain?

Best regards,

shrike.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:38 pm

Shrike

go away - Your going to make me buy a gun.. Wheres BR ??

Patsy

Rain · Post by **Rain** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:40 pm

shrike;522715 wrote: I'm not very nice (according to Rain).

I have an attitude problem (according to Rain).

I treat this forum as if it's members are stupid (according to Rain).

Dare I ask a question?

Who the hell is Rain?

Best regards,

shrike.

I said, You don't SEEM to be. And you just proved me right. I'm done with you.

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:49 pm

shrike;522715 wrote:

Who the hell is Rain?

You haven't earned the right to know.

Goodbye

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:50 pm

shrike;522591 wrote: And I've never been happier knowing that there's an entire ocean between me and the USA.

Happy or releived? That gun ain't for show, and neither are the 9 I have at my disposal. And now that you have shown your ass along with your true ignorance and stupidity, you can go back to dirtying up the place. I leave you at the 'tender mercies' of the rest of the crowd. 'Nice knowing you, briefly.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:51 pm

Hey Rain, this twit has an incurable case of, "I have my opinion, please don't confuse me with any fact." :yh_laugh

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:57 pm

Shrike

Your still trying to get your point across RE: WAR - How you feel ??

You were asked to go away ??

That shows disrespect for me & all at FG

I asked you why you have 3 - 4 threads relating to this war ?? And why do we need to keep hashing it over & over

Read Anti - War Protester -

I DON'T CARE HOW YOU FEEL @ WAR

Patsy

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:00 am

Rain;522720 wrote: I said, You don't SEEM to be. And you just proved me right. I'm done with you.

Aw.

That's too bad. And there was I just about to invite you to my birthday party.

Best regards,

shrike.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:02 am

BabyRider;522748 wrote: Hey Rain, this twit has an incurable case of, "I have my opinion, please don't confuse me with any fact." :yh_laugh

Your bullying might work in the playground, BR, but it doesn't work with grown-up people. Even if you've got a gun in your sweaty hand.

Regards,

shrike.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:07 am

Patsy Warnick;522761 wrote: Shrike

Your still trying to get your point across RE: WAR - How you feel ??

You were asked to go away ??

That shows disrespect for me & all at FG

I asked you why you have 3 - 4 threads relating to this war ?? And why do we need to keep hashing it over & over

Read Anti - War Protester -

I DON'T CARE HOW YOU FEEL @ WAR

Patsy

I give respect to people who deserve it, Patsy.

You seem to think that just because you're alive you deserve respect.

Wherever did you get that BS from?

Respect is earned.

And you haven't earned it.

Regards,

shrike.

Rain · Post by **Rain** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:08 am

lol w/BR

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:10 am

I don't need yours

Patsy

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:13 am

Shrike

Do you want to throw mud ??

I just might be in the mood

Patsy

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:15 am

Patsy Warnick;522783 wrote: I don't need yours

Patsy

That's where you're wrong, Patsy.

I'm an intelligent person.

You need the respect of people like me very much indeed.

You won't get it, though.

Because you're a patent, bloody fool.

Regards,

shrike.

Rain · Post by **Rain** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:21 am

And the fly on the wall didn't take off soon enough and..... SMACK!

Eeewwww, what a bloody mess.

Fibonacci · Post by **Fibonacci** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:31 am

Shrike.

Why was this thread started?

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:20 am

Rain;522793 wrote: And the fly on the wall didn't take off soon enough and..... SMACK!

Eeewwww, what a bloody mess.

Now what the bloody hell is that supposed to mean, Rain?

And why do you call yourself 'Rain' for heaven's sake?

Do you think it mystically connects you to your ancestors and the elements?

Newsflash: It don't. It just makes you a laughing stock.

I know your real name's Jeff Goldblum or Kirk Douglas or whatever...

Regards,

shrike.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:24 am

Fibonacci;522797 wrote: Shrike.

Why was this thread started?

Someone clever enough to call him/herself Fibonacci can't possibly not know the answer to the question he/she so self-consciously asked.

You call yourself Fibonacci but are you as clever as your namesake?

Prove it right now by saying something really, really clever.

Regards,

shrike.

Fibonacci · Post by **Fibonacci** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:34 am

In the threads topic you ask why America wants to destroy the world.

Then you went into Global warming, stating that you

dont bloody care.

You then proceeded to launch personal attacks on a number of the members who actually replied.

Just Asking.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:01 am

Fibonacci;522812 wrote: In the threads topic you ask why America wants to destroy the world.

Then you went into Global warming, stating that you

You then proceeded to launch personal attacks on a number of the members who actually replied.

Just Asking.

I can't help it if you people can't cope with sarcasm and irony.

Just stating the facts.

Regards,

shrike.

PS I'm still waiting for you to say something clever, 'Fibonacci'.

Please note the sarcastic and ironic quotation marks.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:36 am

I don't do this "spank the yanks" thing, its juvenile and unfair, though yes there are a lot of deserved criticisms you can make in relation to the U.S. just like the U.K., France, Ireland, Saudi Arabia, China blah blah blah. Climate change is a reality ladies and gentlemen whether you want to "believe" in it or not, but thats not the American's fault either, and its more constructive to try to understand other peoples views on these matters and try to find workable solutions, (sometimes this may involve being rather blunt its true). But its better to be honestly engaged and have some tolerance for a different world view rather than hypocritically lecture them across the Atlantic. That works both ways, and for everyone else in the world as well. In terms of climate change its best that countries at this stage just lead by example and stop trying to create a global solution, because at present there is no global agreement, and we don't have an endless amount of time to debate this, as its not a philosophical discussion.