caught stealing!

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:35 am

If you saw someone in a store stealing, would you go report them or just walk away? The other night the wife and I was in the Grocery store and I saw a Guy stuffing items under his jacket. I wanted to report him but was unsure what to do.

What would you have done?

Tater Tazz · Post by **Tater Tazz** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:38 am

Because I work in retail, I would report them. One reason being that the more that is stolen, makes the retail raise prices for the consumer. So, the person not stealing pays in the long run.

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:41 am

Tater Tazz;571461 wrote: Because I work in retail, I would report them. One reason being that the more that is stolen, makes the retail raise prices for the consumer. So, the person not stealing pays in the long run.

If you did not work in retail and was just a regular shopper would you have reported them?

Tater Tazz · Post by **Tater Tazz** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:44 am

fisher;571465 wrote: If you did not work in retail and was just a regular shopper would you have reported them?

Yes, because in the long run, the prices of merchandise would stay down for the consumer.

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:51 am

Tater Tazz;571472 wrote: Yes, because in the long run, the prices of merchandise would stay down for the consumer.

I agree 100% and that's why I reported him and they caught him. It took me a while to make up my mind what to do though.

Tater Tazz · Post by **Tater Tazz** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:55 am

fisher;571482 wrote: I agree 100% and that's why I reported him and they caught him. It took me a while to make up my mind what to do though.

I think that is a smart thing you did.

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:01 am

Tater Tazz;571489 wrote: I think that is a smart thing you did.

Thanks. I guess what made up my mind to report him was the price of the groceries. I know stealing makes the price higher.

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:10 am

Novelty;571502 wrote: The bigger fish is best to worry about, corporations, politicians and banks are stealing on a daily basis, the poor fool maybe just wanted to feed his family the only way that he can, it's none of your business to report him, i hope you feel better.

Thanks for your opinion.

I though of that while making my decision.(Maybe he just needs to feed his family)

But when they caught him he was drunk and most of the items he had with him was junk food. I did not feel bad after that. Beside I don't care much for thieves.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:18 am

Personally I don't think that I would have reported him!!

I usually hate confrontation or making any trouble. But, I look at it this way....I have to feed my family the old fashioned way, I have to work every day. I don't believe in stealing, cheating or lying, despise it...there is such a thing as citizens arrest...but no-one does it of course-too afraid of not being PC...feeling sorry for the poor people that are hungry-so we let them steal??

Plus, there are people that steal for the fun of it, I know someone that was taught by her mother at a young age to steal, and she married a wealthy man....she still steals for the thrill of it.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:20 am

fisher;571482 wrote: I reported him and they caught him. It took me a while to make up my mind what to do though.

Good. That's just the sort of thing that we need these days. Well Done!

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:23 am

Novelty;571502 wrote: The bigger fish is best to worry about, corporations, politicians and banks are stealing on a daily basis, the poor fool maybe just wanted to feed his family the only way that he can, it's none of your business to report him, i hope you feel better.

Of course it's his business - in fact, it's his *duty*. If you would not have reported

him, would you report someone:

Stealing CDs from a shop;

Stealing money from the till in the shop;

Stealing from customers by picking their pockets;

Stealing your company car.

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:24 am

WonderWendy3;571512 wrote: Personally I don't think that I would have reported him!!

I usually hate confrontation or making any trouble. But, I look at it this way....I have to feed my family the old fashioned way, I have to work every day. I don't believe in stealing, cheating or lying, despise it...there is such a thing as citizens arrest...but no-one does it of course-too afraid of not being PC...feeling sorry for the poor people that are hungry-so we let them steal??

Plus, there are people that steal for the fun of it, I know someone that was taught by her mother at a young age to steal, and she married a wealthy man....she still steals for the thrill of it.

There was no confrontation. When I told the employee they went and checked the camera and saw him in the act. I don't believe in stealing either. If a person is hungry and has no means to eat there is the food bank that is willing to hand out food. When you steal you make everybody pay.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:28 am

Novelty;571517 wrote: Then he was just being stupid, are you a saint or something? have you never been stupid, look at the real criminals in society, not the uneducated, with respect i can guarantee your morality is somewhat misplaced fisher...

why did you bring this up here in the first place? i suggest that you wasn't sure you did the right thing...

He wasn't "just being stupid", the toe-rag was theiving. "The real criminals in

society, not the uneducated"? How do you know? Did you know, for instance,

that shoplifting costs somewhere around £2,000,000,000 per year?

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:29 am

Novelty;571521 wrote: Sycophantic claptrap....

So have you stolen many things from shops, then?

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:33 am

WonderWendy3;571512 wrote: Personally I think that I would have reported him!!

I usually hate confrontation or making any trouble. But, I look at it this way....I have to feed my family the old fashioned way, I have to work every day. I don't believe in stealing, cheating or lying, despise it...there is such a thing as citizens arrest...but no-one does it of course-too afraid of not being PC...feeling sorry for the poor people that are hungry-so we let them steal??

Plus, there are people that steal for the fun of it, I know someone that was taught by her mother at a young age to steal, and she married a wealthy man....she still steals for the thrill of it.

I just re-read what I wrote, and I would've reported him, I was going to say that I don't think I would have hesitated to report him, then changed my wording, didn't want to seem cynical since I've never been in that situation. I definately would've reported him!

Sorry Fisher...

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:34 am

Novelty;571517 wrote: Then he was just being stupid, are you a saint or something? have you never been stupid, look at the real criminals in society, not the uneducated, with respect i can guarantee your morality is somewhat misplaced fisher...

why did you bring this up here in the first place? i suggest that you wasn't sure you did the right thing...

I wasn't sure what to do at first and was just curious what others would of done. I am far from a saint but I honestly can tell you I have not stolen anything in my life.

If this guy broke into your home and was stealing from you,would you still feel bad for him?

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:36 am

WonderWendy3;571537 wrote: I just re-read what I wrote, and I would've reported him, I was going to say that I don't think I would have hesitated to report him, then changed my wording, didn't want to seem cynical since I've never been in that situation. I definately would've reported him!

Sorry Fisher...

No prob! Thanks for being honest.

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:41 am

Bill Sikes;571533 wrote: He wasn't "just being stupid", the toe-rag was theiving. "The real criminals in

society, not the uneducated"? How do you know? Did you know, for instance,

that shoplifting costs somewhere around £2,000,000,000 per year?

Well said Bill.Thanks:)

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:50 am

Pinky;571547 wrote: I would report it for sure. At the end of the day, why should someone just go and take what they want when other people have to live to their means and get by on what they can?

Exactly. If I can't afford something I will go without before resorting to stealing.

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:06 am

Novelty;571554 wrote: I wouldn't be happy, lets get this straight i dont like thieves.. but the more serious questions that need answering is why we live in a society where people steel, and why they need to do such a thing in the first place, for people to get all high and mighty about petty thieves but slumber in ignorance about corporate and political criminals who steel your liberty on a daily basis..

So you say criminals that commit Minor crimes should be let go and just go after the big guys? I am sure glad your not a Judge. We would be in trouble.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:10 am

I would not of reported it had it been me. But thats just me, i tend to just look after myself and mine.

I am sure you done the right thing Fisher :-6

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:20 am

Novelty;571554 wrote: I wouldn't be happy, lets get this straight i don't like thieves.. but the more serious questions that need answering is why we live in a society where people steel, and why they need to do such a thing in the first place, for people to get all high and mighty about petty thieves but slumber in ignorance about corporate and political criminals who steel your liberty on a daily basis..
You're right Nov. Now lets go put a citizens arrest On GWB and see how far we get. What kind of society would you prefer where stealing would not exist? Some people steal because they are too lazy too work for what they want.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:27 am

fisher;571457 wrote: If you saw someone in a store stealing, would you go report them or just walk away? The other night the wife and I was in the Grocery store and I saw a Guy stuffing items under his jacket. I wanted to report him but was unsure what to do.

What would you have done?

Yes i'd report them, 100% . Why is it people feel they have the right to steal anything that takes their fancy . I suppose we should turn a blind eye to benefit fraudsters as well because their only trying to get by :rolleyes: - sorry i don't agree . You work for something if you want it or else go without .:-5

Fisher well done.:yh_clap

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:29 am

pantsonfire321@aol.com;571577 wrote: Yes i'd report them, 100% . Why is it people feel they have the right to steal anything that takes their fancy . I suppose we should turn a blind eye to benefit fraudsters as well because their only trying to get by :rolleyes: - sorry i don't agree . You work for something if you want it or else go without .:-5

Fisher well done.:yh_clap

Thanks pants.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:30 am

YZGI;571569 wrote: You're right Nov. Now lets go put a citizens arrest On GWB and see how far we get. What kind of society would you prefer where stealing would not exist? Some people steal because they are too lazy too work for what they want.

first time ever i'm going to disagree with two of my buddy's on f g but fisher and wisey are big enough not too wet their nappies over me having my point of view, I personally would never snitch on anyone ever but thats just me ,where i grew up grasses where on level pegging with pedo's ,if i saw the guy ,i'd of told him in no uncertain terms he was putting it back and he was not leaving the shop with his stolen goodies end of ,why get so uptight over a guy stealing a bit of food then totally ignore a person speeding or drunk driving that could wipe out or destroy a whole family ,over to you wisey

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:43 am

jimbo;571581 wrote: first time ever i'm going to disagree with two of my buddy's on f g but fisher and wisey are big enough not too wet their nappies over me having my point of view, I personally would never snitch on anyone ever but thats just me ,where i grew up grasses where on level pegging with pedo's ,if i saw the guy ,i'd of told him in no uncertain terms he was putting it back and he was not leaving the shop with his stolen goodies end of ,why get so uptight over a guy stealing a bit of food then totally ignore a person speeding or drunk driving that could wipe out or destroy a whole family ,over to you wisey

I was making more of a statement about what kind of society Novelty would propose that theft would not exist.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:45 am

YZGI;571593 wrote: I was making more of a statement about what kind of society Novelty would propose that theft would not exist.

buddy if your a snitch its up to you

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:47 am

jimbo;571596 wrote: buddy if your a snitch its up to you
Okay now lets back up here. Where did I post that I was a snitch. Show me.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:50 am

jimbo;571596 wrote: buddy if your a snitch its up to you
In fact I would more likely offer to pay for what he was taking before I would turn him in.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:50 am

YZGI;571599 wrote: Okay now lets back up here. Where did I post that I was a snitch. Show me.

gotcha:wah: :wah: :wah: :wah:

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:50 am

jimbo;571581 wrote: first time ever i'm going to disagree with two of my buddy's on f g but fisher and wisey are big enough not too wet their nappies over me having my point of view, I personally would never snitch on anyone ever but thats just me ,where i grew up grasses where on level pegging with pedo's ,if i saw the guy ,i'd of told him in no uncertain terms he was putting it back and he was not leaving the shop with his stolen goodies end of ,why get so uptight over a guy stealing a bit of food then totally ignore a person speeding or drunk driving that could wipe out or destroy a whole family ,over to you wisey

Good piont Jimbo. I am not sure how this guy would of reacted if I would of approached him, not that I was scared of him I thought a store employee would handle it better.

About your comment on drunk driving . A few years back I was driving behind a guy the was all over the road. I never even hesitated before I called the RCMP, unfortunately the guy got away. I alway think a family member could be coming the other way and he could smash right into them. When ever I see a drunk driver I will report them in a heart beat.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:52 am

Novelty;571600 wrote: You worry about benefit fraudsters when fraudsters are elect, you are so naive,

people cant debate the big picture it's just so incredible and sad.......

De-frauding the benefit system and stealing are both crimes . People who do either deserve to be caught . I'd report someone in heartbeat.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:55 am

fisher;571604 wrote: Good piont Jimbo. I am not sure how this guy would of reacted if I would of approached him, not that I was scared of him I thought a store employee would handle it better.

About your comment on drunk driving . A few years back I was driving behind a guy the was all over the road. I never even hesitated before I called the RCMP, unfortunately the guy got away. I alway think a family member could be coming the other way and he could smash right into them. When ever I see a drunk driver I will report them in a heart beat.

mate to be honest I have pulled in front of people swerving all over the road drunk in charge ,stopped them told them in no uncertain terms that they get out and walk or i get the cops, you cant let a family die coz some a hole wont pay 5 bucks for a cab :driving: :driving:

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:56 am

Novelty;571590 wrote: I didn't say that, thats just rubbish, i will say no more to you...

for people to get all high and mighty about petty thieves but slumber in ignorance about corporate and political criminals who steel your liberty on a daily basis..

You said this, not I.

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:00 am

jimbo;571608 wrote: mate to be honest I have pulled in front of people swerving all over the road drunk in charge ,stopped them told them in no uncertain terms that they get out and walk or i get the cops, you cant let a family die coz some a hole wont pay 5 bucks for a cab :driving: :driving:

Way to go Jimbo:)

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:03 am

jimbo;571596 wrote: buddy if your a snitch its up to you

So you wouldn't shop anyone for anything?

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:04 am

Novelty;571521 wrote: Sycophantic claptrap....

So, answer the question:

If you would not have reported him, would you report someone:

Stealing CDs from a shop;

Stealing money from the till in the shop;

Stealing from customers by picking their pockets;

Stealing your company car.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:05 am

Bill Sikes;571615 wrote: So you wouldn't shop anyone for anything?

kiddie fiddlers people who mug old ladies , people called bill trying to argue online ,only the bad stuff:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

minks · Post by **minks** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:31 am

I would have reported them too FIsher. Theft drives the cost of items up... it hurts us all.

I would hope however the guy would not come round to find you and take a round out of you, oh wait I think you could stand yer ground. hehehehe

fisher · Post by **fisher** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:46 am

minks;571644 wrote: I would have reported them too FIsher. Theft drives the cost of items up... it hurts us all.

I would hope however the guy would not come round to find you and take a round out of you, oh wait I think you could stand yer ground. hehehehe

lol. I was not worried Minks. We both know he would not of got far.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:47 am

i actually think identity theft is a most ghastly of crimes , would any snitch on any one that committed that cowardly crime