Dianna

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:18 pm

i will be watching the Doc in Ch 4 on Princess Dianna.Who else in the uk will be watching? The two princes really have tried to stop it being showed tonight but this a free country and that is why we have a choice of channals surley.

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:23 pm

one n hun

saffy · Post by **saffy** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:24 pm

Challenge annaka is on ITV so I won't be..

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:27 pm

neffy;630592 wrote: i will be watching the Doc in Ch 4 on Princess Dianna.Who else in the uk will be watching? The two princes really have tried to stop it being showed tonight but this a free country and that is why we have a choice of channals surley.

I actually feel really sorry for those boys, they lost their mother in horrific circumstances and are constantly reminded by the press and television dragging it all up.

I think it's a whole media circus which leaves a real bad taste in my mouth, I won't be watching it.

After all we may be a free country, but how would most people like to go through the raw excruciating pain of losing a parent or child, then having it on TV or in the papers all the time, not many people would.

She was hounded in life to her death, the least they could do is leave her memory in peace.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:29 pm

I just saw something the other night on TV about someone wanting to release death scene photos of her and others not wanting them to.

I think I've already seen them on a gore site, at least it was a dead ringer for her (that pun was not intended) and they weren't that bad but out of respect for Will and Harry I think they should leave it alone.

I really liked Diana. That funeral really got to me.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:31 pm

i do think they should let her rest in peace ,if you would like people to slander your deceaced loved ones then watch the programme ,if you would be offended dont watch it i know i wont be :-3 :-3

Mia · Post by **Mia** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:41 pm

The way to look at it is how would you feel if you'r mums last moments were on TV. They should let the poor girl rest in peace.I feel very sorry for William and Harry when they are not allowed to put that terrible night behind them.

Mia

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:51 pm

neffy;630592 wrote: i will be watching the Doc in Ch 4 on Princess Dianna.Who else in the uk will be watching? The two princes really have tried to stop it being showed tonight but this a free country and that is why we have a choice of channals surley.

I'll use my freedom of choice and watch something else.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:54 pm

Remember the wedding? That huge dress with the even huger train??

Remember how innocent she was then?

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:57 pm

RedGlitter;630660 wrote: Remember the wedding? That huge dress with the even huger train??

Remember how innocent she was then?

It's all so sad how it ended, I remember bunking off school to watch the wedding, I remember thinking how I wanted to look as happy as her when I got married, turns out she didn't realize what she was getting herself into.

theia · Post by **theia** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:58 pm

I shall be watching it.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:00 pm

SuzyB;630663 wrote: It's all so sad how it ended, I remember bunking off school to watch the wedding, I remember thinking how I wanted to look as happy as her when I got married, turns out she didn't realize what she was getting herself into.

Yeah, that's for sure.

Which makes me wonder, what do you guys think about Camilla? Does anyone really like this woman? I mean over here, I think the general consensus is that she's a horse and we tend to think awful of her because she cheated with Charles. Is that a UK feeling too?

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:08 pm

RedGlitter;630668 wrote: Yeah, that's for sure.

Which makes me wonder, what do you guys think about Camilla? Does anyone really like this woman? I mean over here, I think the general consensus is that she's a horse and we tend to think awful of her because she cheated with Charles. Is that a UK feeling too?

Pretty much, we all know that she will never be Queen as Charles will never be made King, it will go straight to Price William.

No-one will forgive the way that Diana was treated by Charles and Camilla.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:12 pm

I remember reading about a bracelet Diana found that was meant from Charles to Camilla. It was inscribed with some love sentiment. She found it before getting married. Sad.

Maybe a dumb question, Suzy, but since you mentioned how the procession will go, how does royalty work? Is there a place that explains how people get their titles and what the titles actually mean? I find all that very confusingbut very interesting.

crazygal · Post by **crazygal** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:14 pm

Say again?

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:17 pm

crazygal;630693 wrote: Say again?

Well, like for instance, why would Charles not be King? Is it his mother's choice or is there another reason? How come Queen Elizabeth's husband is the Queen Consort/Prince and not a king for marrying her?

What's the meaning of being a baron vs. a viscount vs. an earl, etc? How do you become one?

Stuff like that.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:19 pm

RedGlitter;630689 wrote: I remember reading about a bracelet Diana found that was meant from Charles to Camilla. It was inscribed with some love sentiment. She found it before getting married. Sad.

Maybe a dumb question, Suzy, but since you mentioned how the procession will go, how does royalty work? Is there a place that explains how people get their titles and what the titles actually mean? I find all that very confusingbut very interesting.

Bryan or Spot helppppp.

TBH Red, i am not 100% sure and I don't want to mis-inform you, I will look for a link now for you. :-4

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:21 pm

http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page1.asp

This is some info for you, :-4

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:22 pm

Thanks Suzy!!

This is why it's so great to be able to talk to people the world over on here!

You can learn so much from them!! :-6

crazygal · Post by **crazygal** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:22 pm

Oh thank you.

Trying to read in the dark here, seems I ain't the only one, lol. I loved DIANA.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:32 pm

RedGlitter;630710 wrote: Thanks Suzy!!

This is why it's so great to be able to talk to people the world over on here!

You can learn so much from them!! :-6

Not so sure you could learn from me Red :wah:

In theory the title should have been passed to Charles, but the general public don't care for him (see how nice I put that), so the general opinion is that it will be passed straight to Prince William.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:35 pm

SuzyB;630724 wrote: Not so sure you could learn from me Red :wah:

In theory the title should have been passed to Charles, but the general public don't care for him (see how nice I put that), so the general opinion is that it will be passed straight to Prince William.

Thanks for that linkydink, Suzy!

Wow, would I love to have that juicy crown!!! :yh_drool

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:36 pm

RedGlitter;630732 wrote: Thanks for that linkydink, Suzy!

Wow, would I love to have that juicy crown!!! :yh_drool

When you come to visit, i'll take you to Windsor Castle, we are only 10 minutes away in the car :-4

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:41 pm

SuzyB;630735 wrote: When you come to visit, i'll take you to Windsor Castle, we are only 10 minutes away in the car :-4

yeah with suzy driving any one else half an hour :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:42 pm

jimbo;630740 wrote: yeah with suzy driving any one else half an hour :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:wah: :wah:

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:45 pm

I would love that...Prince Charles always seemed like a "poopy head" to me, like my choice of words?

I always saw Dianna as a young woman trying to please everyone.

I agree that it's a shame that they can't let her rest in peace.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:45 pm

SuzyB;630735 wrote: When you come to visit, i'll take you to Windsor Castle, we are only 10 minutes away in the car :-4

All right!!! I would LOVE that!! Visiting you guys would be a blast! :-4

jimbo;630740 wrote: yeah with suzy driving any one else half an hour :rolleyes:

:wah: You're looking for trouble, huh?

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:47 pm

RedGlitter;630660 wrote: Remember the wedding? That huge dress with the even huger train??

Remember how innocent she was then?

I remember getting up in the middle of the night to watch her wedding, it was like a fairy tale, so beautiful.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:14 pm

I probably won't. Why would you want to watch film of somebody dying?

posted by neffy

The two princes really have tried to stop it being showed tonight but this a free country and that is why we have a choice of channals surley

If it was your next door neighbours mother would your sentiment be the same? The driver was drunk and she wasn't wearing a seat belt. Al fayed should leave it alone.

posted by redglitter

Well, like for instance, why would Charles not be King? Is it his mother's choice or is there another reason? How come Queen Elizabeth's husband is the Queen Consort/Prince and not a king for marrying her?

Normally it would go to the eldest male heir with a female succeeding if there was no male heir. It should pass to Charles but doesn't have to. Odds are it will pass to William. The Royal family reign on our sufferance so if they do anything that makes them unpopular there is always the possibility republican sentiment will grow.

A consort is the husband of a ruling queen who was himself a prince (Philip was a greek prince). Used to be if a queen married her husband ruled-that's why Queen Elizabeth the first didn't marry. The title consort was introduced for Prince Albert (victoria's husband. He didn't become king cos victoria wanted to keep her constitutional position and also because the Royal family were so unpopular as it was another German king might have been a step too far.

You might find this useful for an explanation of the titles. Just think mafia family and it makes more sense. You used to be able to buy a peerage by contributing to the labour party but TB has been caught with his hand out. Poor dear was only doing what he thought was the right thing to do.

http://www.channel4.com/history/microsi ... itles.html

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:24 pm

Wow! Thank you GMC! That info and link were exactly what I needed! I saved it to refer back to. I find that stuff so fascinating. Thanks!!

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:28 pm

i did watch it tonght and may juast say there was no photos of Diana.I agree with you suzy We should now leave this alone,i feel alot of people where being used as a scape goat.

I love Diana i think she was the best thing that had ever happened to the royal famliy,she was are english rose.I am going to e-amail ch 4 in a mo.It was quite a good programme and what i think was done with taste.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:32 pm

neffy;630592 wrote: i will be watching the Doc in Ch 4 on Princess Dianna.Who else in the uk will be watching thinking:

Read the Stevens Report and don't concern yourself with tittle-tattle.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:33 pm

SuzyB;630603 wrote: IShe was hounded in life to her death, the least they could do is leave her memory in peace.

She wasn't hounded in life to her death, although her driver might have been.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:37 pm

RedGlitter;630668 wrote: what do you guys think about Camilla? Does anyone really like this woman? I mean over here, I think the general consensus is that she's a horse and we tend to think awful of her because she cheated with Charles. Is that a UK feeling too?

She seems to be doing a better job (in her post) than DPOW. Don't forget that DPOW shagged at least one onther when married, so IMO their behaviour was about the same.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:39 pm

SuzyB;630603 wrote: I actually feel really sorry for those boys,

I think it's a whole media circus which leaves a real bad taste in my mouth, I won't be watching it.

After all we may be a free country, but how would most people like to go through the raw excruciating pain of losing a parent or child, then having it on TV or in the papers all the time, not many people would.

I certainly agree with the above. I suppose the time for this redundant "documentary" has come and gone. Would that the people involved in the production of same had gone, too.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:41 pm

SuzyB;630724 wrote: In theory the title should have been passed to Charles, but the general public don't care for him

Oh. Have you any backup for that statement?

AFAIK he does a good job, and there is not significant feeling against him.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:26 am

Bill Sikes;630877 wrote: She wasn't hounded in life to her death, although her driver might have been.

Bill, you are such a jerk at times, IMO she was most defintaley hounded in life to her death.

Bill Sikes;630898 wrote: Oh. Have you any backup for that statement?

AFAIK he does a good job, and there is not significant feeling against him.

The general opinion of the people of Britain is that he shouldn't be King, if you believe that their is not significant feeling against him, I would suggest that you have been asleep for the last 15 years!!!

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:40 am

I watched it, its sad of course for William & Harry but we must all remember Diana played up to the press as much as she hid from them. Further to that newspaper & magazine sales were as high as they were because people wanted to see & read about her, so technically its the people who hounded her, the press would not have had the job otherwize.

As for the Charles issue, i think he would make a fine king & have no objection to him becoming one, to the best of my knowledge there have been no polls of the British people to suggest otherwize. I should imagine the queen will stay on the throne until her death. I have the highest respect for the queen & have been shot down many times her for expressing that but it remains my opinion.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:42 am

SuzyB;631380 wrote: Bill, you are such a jerk at times, IMO she was most defintaley hounded in life to her death.

DPOW was not driving, her driver made an error that caused the crash. Read the Stevens Report. Had her driver not crashed, she might be alive today.

SuzyB;631380 wrote: The general opinion of the people of Britain is that he shouldn't be King,

Rubbish. From an ICM survey (March, 2006):

Q3a. Now that Charles is married to Camilla, should he still become King?

Yes 63%

No 34%

Don't know/Refused 2%

If you can find a more recent poll from a similar source that says otherwise, I shall be interested to see it.

SuzyB;631380 wrote: if you believe that their is not significant feeling against him, I would suggest that you have been asleep for the last 15 years!!!

Significant seems to equal a minority in this case.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:54 am

buttercup;631414 wrote: I watched it, its sad of course for William & Harry but we must all remember Diana played up to the press as much as she hid from them. Further to that newspaper & magazine sales were as high as they were because people wanted to see & read about her, so technically its the people who hounded her, the press would not have had the job otherwize.

As for the Charles issue, i think he would make a fine king & have no objection to him becoming one, to the best of my knowledge there have been no polls of the British people to suggest otherwize. I should imagine the queen will stay on the throne until her death. I have the highest respect for the queen & have been shot down many times her for expressing that but it remains my opinion.

I think the Queen has done a grand job, but I think if everyone thought more of Charles she would of handed over the crown a long time ago. The only polls have which I have seen has been conducted by television and a couple of newspapers, but of course this does not take into account everyones views, as not everyone voted!

I loved Princess Diana along with everyone else, which is why she was so great for papers and mags, but does that give people/press the right to hound people just because they are in the public eye?? I always feel really sorry for some famous people, especially Diana, after all she became public property because she fell in love. I would rather have a middle standard of living than be rich/famous and never able to relax.

crazygal · Post by **crazygal** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:55 am

No for King, Andrew I think should be King.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:56 am

crazygal;631447 wrote: No for King, Andrew I think should be King.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :wah:

crazygal · Post by **crazygal** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:57 am

SuzyB;631449 wrote: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :wah:

Better looking and Camilla is also a moose.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:58 am

crazygal;631450 wrote: Better looking and Camilla is also a moose.

:wah:

crazygal · Post by **crazygal** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:59 am

SuzyB;631453 wrote: :wah:

Sorry just trying to lighten things a bit.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:00 am

SuzyB;631443 wrote: I think the Queen has done a grand job, but I think if everyone thought more of Charles she would of handed over the crown a long time ago.

She can't do that, she's the Queen!

crazygal · Post by **crazygal** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:01 am

About time she retired though me thinks. :rolleyes:

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:02 am

crazygal;631461 wrote: About time she retired though me thinks. rolleyes:

She cannot retire, she's the Queen!

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:02 am

Bill :-4

Public will believe what they read, unfortunately 'comics' like News of the world & the Sun ect seem to reach more of the population than reputable one's.

Suzy :-4

Why would the queen hand over the crown? There is no need for her to do that.

Also you cant say ' i loved Diana along with everyone else' You can say 'you loved her & a lot of people loved her' Not everyone did, myself included.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:04 am

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.c ... emID/15118

This is a poll conducted where Prince William is in the lead to be our next King.

I do believe Bill, the facts you gave was if Charles should still be King where he married Camilla after being divorced.