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Do you think neighbors should be informed when a registered sex offender moves in? Is it good policy to make everyone aware of it so they can look out for themselves and their kids or do you consider it a violation of the sex offender's rights and privacy?
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RedGlitter;635586 wrote: Do you think neighbors should be informed when a registered sex offender moves in? Is it good policy to make everyone aware of it so they can look out for themselves and their kids or do you consider it a violation of the sex offender's rights and privacy?


Yes, it's a case of the needs of the many outweighing indivual rights IMO.
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RedGlitter;635586 wrote: Do you think neighbors should be informed when a registered sex offender moves in?


Probably not... what's the offence (rather than just being on a "register"? If you tell people about a person who's committed one sort of offence, then what about people who've committed all sorts of other ones?
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I would want to know if there is anyone living near me. .

They can keep their damn mucky hands away from my kids!! :mad:
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RedGlitter;635586 wrote: Do you think neighbors should be informed when a registered sex offender moves in? Is it good policy to make everyone aware of it so they can look out for themselves and their kids or do you consider it a violation of the sex offender's rights and privacy?


They have no rights as far as I'm concerned, their rights went as soon as they put their hands on a child. We should be made aware of where these dregs of society are, how many more children are to suffer at the hands of these scum? The other thing that I think is wrong, is that they get segregated in prison they should be put where the other lags are





Bill Sikes;635594 wrote: Probably not... what's the offence (rather than just being on a "register"? If you tell people about a person who's committed one sort of offence, then what about people who've committed all sorts of other ones?


Bill the offence is that they have sexually abused a minor, enough to get you strung up in my neck of the woods!
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Do any of you guys subscribe to the idea that once they have completed their prison time that they are free and clear and should get a fresh slate? If you disagree with that idea, do you feel that way about all crimes or just sex offenses?
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RedGlitter;635606 wrote: Do any of you guys subscribe to the idea that once they have completed their prison time that they are free and clear and should get a fresh slate? If you disagree with that idea, do you feel that way about all crimes or just sex offenses?


Castration comes to mind.

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I found five just in my neighborhood. :eek:

This is sad but the the second guy to ever ask me to dance, when I was 14, turned out to have molested his own kids. There's no accounting for people.
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JacksDad;635608 wrote: Castration comes to mind.

Micheal Jackson isn't recordind anymore and I feel the world needs more falsettos.


Yeah, I agree with you about the castration part. Done with a rusty spoon.

See JD, we do agree on some things after all. ;)
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RedGlitter;635606 wrote: Do any of you guys subscribe to the idea that once they have completed their prison time that they are free and clear and should get a fresh slate? If you disagree with that idea, do you feel that way about all crimes or just sex offenses?


Unfortunatley the data suggests that at this time there is no "cure" for child sexual offenders other than castration, so until some method of treatment is proven to be effective then this is a specail case IMO. If a person voluntarily submits to castration I think they should have their privacy protected.

As for other crimes I would not support a published list of offenders living in my neighborhood.
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RedGlitter;635610 wrote: Yeah, I agree with you about the castration part. Done with a rusty spoon.

See JD, we do agree on some things after all. ;)


Forget it. I just changed my mind.:p
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RedGlitter;635606 wrote: Do any of you guys subscribe to the idea that once they have completed their prison time that they are free and clear and should get a fresh slate? If you disagree with that idea, do you feel that way about all crimes or just sex offenses?


I wouldn't want to even give them the chance to re offend, I believe that they are really sick in the head and why should another family be ruined on the hope that the offenders urges have now gone?? Surely prevention is better than cure. I would never feel that a sex offender should have a fresh slate, I think they should have SEX OFFENDER branded on their foreheads, so everyone knows to stay well way from them.

That's a tough questions regarding the slates being cleared for all people that have committed crimes, I mean you could have someone that could be sent to prison for traffic offences, which of course is nothing like committing a sex offense, I don't feel that I can answer this fully as so many things come under 'crimes'.
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SuzyB;635605 wrote: COLOR="red"]Bill the offence is that they have sexually abused a minor, enough to get you strung up in my neck of the woods!


Yes, but what exactly is the abuse? Hint: Not all people are registered on the SOR for the same offence. "Enough to get you strung up in my neck of the woods", well really, people with that sort of attitude are the sort who beat up paediatricians, etc. They deserve locking up too.

What about all the other offences people commit? Here's a list of some categories of crime for you. For which offences should people be publically exposed?

Murder

Manslaughter

Attempted murder

Threat / conspiracy to murder

Death by reckless driving

Failing to stop after an accident

Failing to give particulars or to report an accident within 24 hours

Undefined accident offences

Driving whilst disqualified by order of court

Attempting to drive while disqualified by order of court

Driving without due care and attention

Driving without reasonable consideration for other road users

Driving without due care and attention or without reasonable consideration for o

ther road users

Causing death through careless driving when unfit through drink

Causing death by careless driving when unfit through drugs

Causing death by careless driving with alcohol level above the limit

Causing death by careless driving then failing to supply a specimen for analysis

Causing death by careless driving then failing to supply a specimen for drug ana

lysis

Using a vehicle with defective brakes

Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of use of unsuitable vehicle or usin

g a vehicle with parts or accessories (excluding brakes, steering or tyres) in a

dangerous condition

Using a vehicle with defective tyre(s)

Using a vehicle with defective steering

Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of load or passengers

Using a mobile phone while driving a motor vehicle

Dangerous driving

Manslaughter or culpable homicide while driving a vehicle

Causing death by dangerous driving

Driving or attempting to drive with alcohol level above limit

Driving or attempting to drive while unfit through drink

Driving or attempting to drive then failing to supply a specimen for analysis

Driving or attempting to drive then failing to supply a specimen for drug analys

is

In charge of a vehicle while alcohol level above limit

In charge of a vehicle while unfit through drink

Failure to provide a specimen for analysis in circumstances other than driving o

r attempting to drive

Failure to supply a specimen for drug analysis in circumstances other than drivi

ng or attempting to drive

Failing to provide specimen for breath test

Driving or attempting to drive when unfit through drugs

In charge of a vehicle when unfit through drugs

Using a vehicle uninsured against third party risks.

Driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence

Driving after making a false declaration about fitness when applying for a licen

ce

Driving a vehicle having failed to notify a disability

Driving after a licence has been revoked or refused on medical grounds

Leaving a vehicle in a dangerous position

Unlawful pillion riding

Play street offences

Motor racing on the highway

Offences not covered by other codes As Appropriate

Driving with uncorrected defective eyesight

Refusing to submit to an eyesight test

Failure to give information as to identity of driver etc

Contravention of special roads regulations (excluding speed limits)

Undefined contravention of pedestrian crossing regulations

Contravention of pedestrian crossing regulations with moving vehicle

Contravention of pedestrian crossing regulations with stationary vehicle

Exceeding goods vehicle speed limits

Exceeding speed limit for type of vehicle (excluding goods or passenger vehicles

)

Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public road

Exceeding passenger vehicle speed limit

Exceeding speed limit on a motorway

Failing to comply with traffic light signals

Failing to comply with double white lines

Failing to comply with 'Stop' sign

Failing to comply with direction of a constable/warden

Failing to comply with traffic sign (excluding - stop -signs, traffic lights or

double white lines)

Failing to comply with a school crossing patrol sign

Undefined failure to comply with a traffic direction sign

To signify a disqualification under totting-up procedure. If the total of penalt

y points reaches 12 or more within three years, the driver is liable to be disqu

alified

Aggravated taking of a vehicle

Causing or permitting

inciting

Wounding or other act endangering life

ABH (Actual Bodily Harm) & other wounding

Possession of weapons

Harassment

Racially or religiously aggravated other wounding

Racially or religiously aggravated harassment

Child Abduction

Causing death by aggravated vehicle taking

Common assault

Racially aggravated common assault

Endangering life at sea

Cruelty to & neglect of children

Procuring illegal abortion

Concealment of birth

Assault on a constable

Endangering rail passengers

Sexual offences

Gross indecency with a child

Buggery

Indecent assault on a male

Indecency between males

Rape

Soliciting or importuning by a man

Indecent assault on a female

Unlawful sexual intercourse with girl under 13

Unlawful sexual intercourse with girl under 16

Incest

Procuration

Abduction

Bigamy

Abuse of position of trust

Robbery

Robbery of business property

Robbery of personal property

Theft of cycles

Theft of pedal cycles

Burglary in a dwelling

Aggravated burglary in a dwelling

Burglary other than dwelling

Burglary other than a dwelling

Aggravated burglary other than dwelling

Theft from vehicles

Vehicle Interference

Theft and TWOC (Taking Without Owners Consent)

Theft and unlawful taking of motor vehicle

Aggravated vehicle taking

Other theft

Theft from another person

Theft in a dwelling

Theft by an employee

Theft or unauthorised taking of mail

Abstracting electricity

Shoplifting

Theft from automatic machine or meter

Other Thefts

Criminal damage

Arson

Criminal damage to a dwelling

Criminal damage to a building other than a dwelling

Criminal damage to a vehicle

Other criminal damage

Racially or religiously aggravated criminal damage to a dwelling

Racially or religiously aggravated criminal damage to building other than

ng

Racially or religiously aggravated criminal damage to a vehicle

Racially or religiously aggravated other criminal damage

Threat or possession with intent to commit criminal damage

Other offences

Going equipped for stealing

Blackmail and kidnapping

Handling stolen goods

Violent disorder

Cause affray, hoax, bomb

Perjury

Trafficking in controlled drugs

Possession of controlled drugs

Other drug offences

Pervert the course of justice

Absconding from lawful custody

Other firearms offences

Other knives offences

Customs and Excise and Inland Revenue offences

Trade description offences

Health and safety at work offences

Obscene publication

High treason & treason felony

Libel

Betting, gaming & lotteries

Immigration

Adulteration of food

Public health

Protection from eviction

Indecent exposure

Vehicle and drivers document fraud

Dangerous driving

Aid and abet suicide

False accounting

Obtain by deception

Forgery of prescription

Other forgery
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zinkyusa;635612 wrote: Unfortunatley the data suggests that at this time there is no "cure" for child sexual offenders other than castration


How do you castrate a female?
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If you are going to let the public know all I hope is that they know the difference between a Paedophile and a Paediatrician , not like the thickos in a town near me who attacked a doctor who was a Paediatrician :rolleyes:






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Bill Sikes;635616 wrote: Yes, but what exactly is the abuse? Hint: Not all people are registered on the SOR for the same offence. "Enough to get you strung up in my neck of the woods", well really, people with that sort of attitude are the sort who beat up paediatricians, etc. They deserve locking up too.

What about all the other offences people commit? Here's a list of some categories of crime for you. For which offences should people be publically exposed?

Murder

Manslaughter

Attempted murder

Threat / conspiracy to murder

Death by reckless driving

Failing to stop after an accident

Failing to give particulars or to report an accident within 24 hours

Undefined accident offences

Driving whilst disqualified by order of court

Attempting to drive while disqualified by order of court

Driving without due care and attention

Driving without reasonable consideration for other road users

Driving without due care and attention or without reasonable consideration for o

ther road users

Causing death through careless driving when unfit through drink

Causing death by careless driving when unfit through drugs

Causing death by careless driving with alcohol level above the limit

Causing death by careless driving then failing to supply a specimen for analysis

Causing death by careless driving then failing to supply a specimen for drug ana

lysis

Using a vehicle with defective brakes

Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of use of unsuitable vehicle or usin

g a vehicle with parts or accessories (excluding brakes, steering or tyres) in a

dangerous condition

Using a vehicle with defective tyre(s)

Using a vehicle with defective steering

Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of load or passengers

Using a mobile phone while driving a motor vehicle

Dangerous driving

Manslaughter or culpable homicide while driving a vehicle

Causing death by dangerous driving

Driving or attempting to drive with alcohol level above limit

Driving or attempting to drive while unfit through drink

Driving or attempting to drive then failing to supply a specimen for analysis

Driving or attempting to drive then failing to supply a specimen for drug analys

is

In charge of a vehicle while alcohol level above limit

In charge of a vehicle while unfit through drink

Failure to provide a specimen for analysis in circumstances other than driving o

r attempting to drive

Failure to supply a specimen for drug analysis in circumstances other than drivi

ng or attempting to drive

Failing to provide specimen for breath test

Driving or attempting to drive when unfit through drugs

In charge of a vehicle when unfit through drugs

Using a vehicle uninsured against third party risks.

Driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence

Driving after making a false declaration about fitness when applying for a licen

ce

Driving a vehicle having failed to notify a disability

Driving after a licence has been revoked or refused on medical grounds

Leaving a vehicle in a dangerous position

Unlawful pillion riding

Play street offences

Motor racing on the highway

Offences not covered by other codes As Appropriate

Driving with uncorrected defective eyesight

Refusing to submit to an eyesight test

Failure to give information as to identity of driver etc

Contravention of special roads regulations (excluding speed limits)

Undefined contravention of pedestrian crossing regulations

Contravention of pedestrian crossing regulations with moving vehicle

Contravention of pedestrian crossing regulations with stationary vehicle

Exceeding goods vehicle speed limits

Exceeding speed limit for type of vehicle (excluding goods or passenger vehicles

)

Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public road

Exceeding passenger vehicle speed limit

Exceeding speed limit on a motorway

Failing to comply with traffic light signals

Failing to comply with double white lines

Failing to comply with 'Stop' sign

Failing to comply with direction of a constable/warden

Failing to comply with traffic sign (excluding - stop -signs, traffic lights or

double white lines)

Failing to comply with a school crossing patrol sign

Undefined failure to comply with a traffic direction sign

To signify a disqualification under totting-up procedure. If the total of penalt

y points reaches 12 or more within three years, the driver is liable to be disqu

alified

Aggravated taking of a vehicle

Causing or permitting

inciting

Wounding or other act endangering life

ABH (Actual Bodily Harm) & other wounding

Possession of weapons

Harassment

Racially or religiously aggravated other wounding

Racially or religiously aggravated harassment

Child Abduction

Causing death by aggravated vehicle taking

Common assault

Racially aggravated common assault

Endangering life at sea

Cruelty to & neglect of children

Procuring illegal abortion

Concealment of birth

Assault on a constable

Endangering rail passengers

Sexual offences

Gross indecency with a child

Buggery

Indecent assault on a male

Indecency between males

Rape

Soliciting or importuning by a man

Indecent assault on a female

Unlawful sexual intercourse with girl under 13

Unlawful sexual intercourse with girl under 16

Incest

Procuration

Abduction

Bigamy

Abuse of position of trust

Robbery

Robbery of business property

Robbery of personal property

Theft of cycles

Theft of pedal cycles

Burglary in a dwelling

Aggravated burglary in a dwelling

Burglary other than dwelling

Burglary other than a dwelling

Aggravated burglary other than dwelling

Theft from vehicles

Vehicle Interference

Theft and TWOC (Taking Without Owners Consent)

Theft and unlawful taking of motor vehicle

Aggravated vehicle taking

Other theft

Theft from another person

Theft in a dwelling

Theft by an employee

Theft or unauthorised taking of mail

Abstracting electricity

Shoplifting

Theft from automatic machine or meter

Other Thefts

Criminal damage

Arson

Criminal damage to a dwelling

Criminal damage to a building other than a dwelling

Criminal damage to a vehicle

Other criminal damage

Racially or religiously aggravated criminal damage to a dwelling

Racially or religiously aggravated criminal damage to building other than

ng

Racially or religiously aggravated criminal damage to a vehicle

Racially or religiously aggravated other criminal damage

Threat or possession with intent to commit criminal damage

Other offences

Going equipped for stealing

Blackmail and kidnapping

Handling stolen goods

Violent disorder

Cause affray, hoax, bomb

Perjury

Trafficking in controlled drugs

Possession of controlled drugs

Other drug offences

Pervert the course of justice

Absconding from lawful custody

Other firearms offences

Other knives offences

Customs and Excise and Inland Revenue offences

Trade description offences

Health and safety at work offences

Obscene publication

High treason & treason felony

Libel

Betting, gaming & lotteries

Immigration

Adulteration of food

Public health

Protection from eviction

Indecent exposure

Vehicle and drivers document fraud

Dangerous driving

Aid and abet suicide

False accounting

Obtain by deception

Forgery of prescription

Other forgery


It should also be a crime for people to publish long lists like this :D






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Bill Sikes;635617 wrote: How do you castrate a female?


It can be done surgically (remove the ovaries) or chemically as well.
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Bill Sikes;635616 wrote: Yes, but what exactly is the abuse? Hint: Not all people are registered on the SOR for the same offence. "Enough to get you strung up in my neck of the woods", well really, people with that sort of attitude are the sort who beat up paediatricians, etc. They deserve locking up too.

The abuse is that they have sexually touched/raped/hurt a minor/child, I am sure you don't need it put in black and white exactly what they have done.

As for my comment, about them getting strung up, let me tell you if any sick

ba5tard touched any of our children, I would gladly do time for it :-6

Let me tell you I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about when you say people with that attitude would beat up paediatricians, are you trying to tell me that you consider a paediatrician the same as a person who violates children???????????????[/COLOR]





What about all the other offences people commit? Here's a list of some categories of crime for you. For which offences should people be publically exposed?




I have already stated my feelings on other crimes and do not intend to go through your whole list just so you can pick on something else :D
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Suzy said As for my comment, about them getting strung up, let me tell you if any sick

ba5tard touched any of our children, I would gladly do time for it

me to, and i WOULD do something about it.
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SuzyB;635605 wrote: They have no rights as far as I'm concerned, their rights went as soon as they put their hands on a child. We should be made aware of where these dregs of society are, how many more children are to suffer at the hands of these scum? The other thing that I think is wrong, is that they get segregated in prison they should be put where the other lags are




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Research has shown that the vast majority of sex offenders (which is different than a rapist) do not rehabilitate. There are success stories, but they seem to be the exception to the rule. In addition, other studies (and these I'm talking about are from my days in school, therefore could be outdated) show that castration, whether physical or chemical, doesn't deter them either. They simply find other means of molesting. IMO, when they cross the line from fantasy (which is sick in and of itself when we're talking about children) to acting, they give up their rights. Until they can prove themselves worthy as a productive member of society, then you're damn right they should register and have others warned. Look how many cases we have in the past few years of freed pedophiles reoffending and killing their victims even. If you can stop just one child from going through that horror then taking their rights to privacy is worth it. Besides, their victims are never free of their sentence. Once molested, they suffer for it, why the hell should the perp get off?
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Mystery;635651 wrote: Research has shown that the vast majority of sex offenders (which is different than a rapist) do not rehabilitate. There are success stories, but they seem to be the exception to the rule. In addition, other studies (and these I'm talking about are from my days in school, therefore could be outdated) show that castration, whether physical or chemical, doesn't deter them either. They simply find other means of molesting. IMO, when they cross the line from fantasy (which is sick in and of itself when we're talking about children) to acting, they give up their rights. Until they can prove themselves worthy as a productive member of society, then you're damn right they should register and have others warned. Look how many cases we have in the past few years of freed pedophiles reoffending and killing their victims even. If you can stop just one child from going through that horror then taking their rights to privacy is worth it. Besides, their victims are never free of their sentence. Once molested, they suffer for it, why the hell should the perp get off?


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Mystery;635651 wrote: Research has shown that the vast majority of sex offenders (which is different than a rapist) do not rehabilitate. There are success stories, but they seem to be the exception to the rule. In addition, other studies (and these I'm talking about are from my days in school, therefore could be outdated) show that castration, whether physical or chemical, doesn't deter them either. They simply find other means of molesting. IMO, when they cross the line from fantasy (which is sick in and of itself when we're talking about children) to acting, they give up their rights. Until they can prove themselves worthy as a productive member of society, then you're damn right they should register and have others warned. Look how many cases we have in the past few years of freed pedophiles reoffending and killing their victims even. If you can stop just one child from going through that horror then taking their rights to privacy is worth it. Besides, their victims are never free of their sentence. Once molested, they suffer for it, why the hell should the perp get off?


:yh_clap Well said Mystery!
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Uncle Fester;635627 wrote: B]COLOR="Red"]It should also be a crime for people to publish long lists like this D


Publish, re-publish, and be damned!

You get my point, though? It's also true to say that not all people convicted of sex offences actually get on the list in any case - and the list is also somewhat of a blunt instrument - the senior judge now on trial for "flashing" on the tube will, if convicted, be entered onto the register - as will a rapist.
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SuzyB;635635 wrote: I have already stated my feelings on other crimes and do not intend to go through your whole list just so you can pick on something else :D


I didn't intend you to go through the list. You miss the point.
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zinkyusa;635640 wrote: Suzy said B]As for my comment, about them getting strung up, let me tell you if any sick

ba5tard touched any of our children


Please refer to RG's original post. You're drifting way off course!
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Mystery;635651 wrote: Research has shown that the vast majority of sex offenders (which is different than a rapist)


So a rapist is not a sex offender? Bollocks. Of course they are!
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Bill Sikes;635662 wrote: So a rapist is not a sex offender? Bollocks. Of course they are!


Rape is not about sex Bill, it's about power and control. There's a difference. Rapists are sex offenders, but not all sex offenders are rapists. That's what I'm meaning.
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SuzyB;635605 wrote:



Bill the offence is that they have sexually abused a minor, enough to get you strung up in my neck of the woods!


Bill Sikes;635616 wrote: Yes, but what exactly is the abuse? Hint: Not all people are registered on the SOR for the same offence. "Enough to get you strung up in my neck of the woods", well really, people with that sort of attitude are the sort who beat up paediatricians, etc. They deserve locking up too.




Bill Sikes;635660 wrote: Please refer to RG's original post. You're drifting way off course!




I wasn't drifting away Bill, I was making a statement to your opinion, in that I would gladly do time, if someone touched my family.:D Unless of course you would like me to just agree with you? :rolleyes:
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I'm actually only referring to sex offenders who molest children in my comments. I think there is evidence to support the possibility of treating rapists. With many rapists the issue is about power and control.
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SuzyB;635667 wrote: COLOR="Red"]I wasn't drifting away Bill, I was making a statement to your opinion, in that I would gladly do time, if someone touched my family. D Unless of course you would like me to just agree with you? rolleyes:


Have these inane ramblings anything to do with the original point? No.
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this is a good site too:

http://www.familywatchdog.us/
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Bill Sikes;635678 wrote: Have these inane ramblings anything to do with the original point? No.


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Bill Sikes;635678 wrote: Have these inane ramblings anything to do with the original point? No.


Best you put me on ignore then Bill, cause I have no intention of changing what and how I post :D :wah:
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well this is a tough one , i think everyone should know who is a sex affender i would like to see tougher prison terms as well.There will always be a group of people who say that they have rights,which will always get in the way.I say hang them end of.
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Sex Offenders, Child Molestors, Rapists can be found on any number of sites now and it is an excellent tool in my opinion.

Just like in life in general AWARENESS is everything. I regually check our local site here and all the other sites as well to see what creeps are in my area, and my sisiter's area.

My opinion you commit a crime like the ones above and your rights are gone. You become the worst the human race has to offer. There is no CURE period short of cutting off their hands to stop them from being able to hurt anyone with them any more. Castration, therapy doesn't work.

Sure there are other crimes that are awful but Sex offenders, Child molestors, and rapists are the bottom of the barrel even in prison.:-5

We let to many out and back on the street in the US. We either get tough on them or they will continue to take our Children and Women, rape them kill them and do 5 to 10 and be back out. The ones that kills should never see the light of day again.

I'm one that believes any crimes againt children means life without parole, or death depending on your state. Like I said that is my opinion.
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Bill Sikes;635657 wrote: - and the list is also somewhat of a blunt instrument - the senior judge now on trial for "flashing" on the tube will, if convicted, be entered onto the register - as will a rapist.


I have a problem with this too. There have been slews of people hung with the term sex offender when all they did was get caught up in a legal snare, not actually having done anything wrong. For instance, the guy I posted about today who was supposed to do 10 years for getting oral from a willing 15 year old. I think that's insane. The article says he won't have to register but there are myriad others who will have to, for being in a similar predicament. I'd like to see more common sense applied to this label, considering it can destroy a person's life and reputation.

Bill Sikes;635662 wrote: So a rapist is not a sex offender? Bollocks. Of course they are!


I agree here. I know they say it's only about power and control but that doesn't change the fact that it is still a forced sexual act. I don't think the sexual aspect should be denied. I really don't see how it can be.

zinkyusa;635668 wrote: I'm actually only referring to sex offenders who molest children in my comments. I think there is evidence to support the possibility of treating rapists. With many rapists the issue is about power and control.


I don't know Zink...maybe a rapist can rape once and never do it again but I just don't know. I'd rather see him or her publicly pointed out. I wouldn't care to see it for a crime like robbery or lesser things, but molestation, rape and...I'm debating on this one still...possibly murder, at least willful murder; I'd like to see the public be made aware.

That's what I'm thinking right now anyway.... :-3
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We are not allowed access to any Sex Offender Register in the UK, people are trying to get the law changed, but we have all these idiots that keeping talking of the rights of the offenders.



Bill, this is of course my opinion and not fact:rolleyes:
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SuzyB;635711 wrote: We are not allowed access to any Sex Offender Register in the UK, people are trying to get the law changed, but we have all these idiots that keeping talking of the rights of the offenders.



Bill, this is of course my opinion and not fact:rolleyes:


that is what i said in my post there will always be some group out there that say these people have rights,rights what bloody rights.They took a child rights away the day they abused them.And some :thinking: :-5

oh and by the way suzy .you go girl well said xxxx
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I vote yes. The entire population of the empire needs to know the whereabouts of these preditors. Keep our children safe, protect the innocent. As parents of children this is our job and if this is another way to do so then let it happen everywhere!
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SuzyB;635688 wrote: Best you put me on ignore then Bill, cause I have no intention of changing what and how I post D wah:


No. Even a pseudo random collection of words and smilies has the potential to resolve to a meaningful post, sometime.
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CARLA;635702 wrote: I'm one that believes any crimes againt children means life without parole, or death depending on your state. Like I said that is my opinion.


What about someone who kills or maims a child in a motoring accident, then?
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Peg;635683 wrote: mad: lips: lips:


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Bill Sikes;635787 wrote: What about someone who kills or maims a child in a motoring accident, then?


if it an accident bill , how can you lock them up :confused:
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Bill Sikes;635787 wrote: What about someone who kills or maims a child in a motoring accident, then?


Have these inane ramblings anything to do with the original point? No. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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I'm getting curious about something....

Many of you are referring to children and I certainly agree, but what about adult victims? Sexual crimes against adults should be no less heinous...in my opinion.

This might be another thread though....I see it in the same light as I do "hate" crimes. I don't think assaulting someone because of their sexual orientation or their ethnicity or whatever should make the crime any worse. Because it's already as bad as it could get. That said, I understand where most people would be coming from in the instance of children being assaulted...but I wonder about it. If a woman is raped that's a terrible thing. But if that woman is also a nun, does that make the rape worse than if it had happened to a "regular" woman? What if she's a stripper or a methhead? Does she warrant less empathy? Does the nun warrant more?
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jimbo;635789 wrote: if it an accident bill , how can you lock them up :confused:


People are charged depending on circumstance ie alcohol, recklessness etc. Same as if they kill an adult.
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SuzyB;635711 wrote: We are not allowed access to any Sex Offender Register in the UK, people are trying to get the law changed, but we have all these idiots that keeping talking of the rights of the offenders.



SIZE="1"]Bill, this is of course my opinion and not factrolleyes:


If you are really addressing that infantile remark to me, you would have noticed, had you the wits, that I am not "defending the rights of the offenders".
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jimbo;635789 wrote: if it an accident bill , how can you lock them up confused:


Perhaps I should have used the word "crash". I hope that enables you to re-consider my post and come up with another answer.
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