What is the most regrettable event in U.S. history?
How about World history?
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RedGlitter;635974 wrote: What is the most regrettable event in U.S. history?
How about World history?
The Holacaust.
How about World history?
The Holacaust.
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RedGlitter;635974 wrote: What is the most regrettable event in U.S. history?
How about World history?
slavery for the US
tie between Holocaust and Stalins purges.
How about World history?
slavery for the US
tie between Holocaust and Stalins purges.
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RedGlitter;635974 wrote: What is the most regrettable event in U.S. history?
Pearl Harbor.
RedGlitter wrote: How about World history?Pearl Harbor.
Where's anastrophe when someone's needed to interpret?
Pearl Harbor.
RedGlitter wrote: How about World history?Pearl Harbor.
Where's anastrophe when someone's needed to interpret?
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spot;636024 wrote: Pearl Harbor.
Pearl Harbor.
Where's anastrophe when someone's needed to interpret?
Why Spot? Because it basically vaulted us into the world power?
Pearl Harbor.
Where's anastrophe when someone's needed to interpret?
Why Spot? Because it basically vaulted us into the world power?
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spot;636024 wrote: Pearl Harbor.
Pearl Harbor.
Where's anastrophe when someone's needed to interpret?
Yes, I miss Anastrophe too. We may have fought like cats and dogs a few times but I don't hold that against him. His posts were great. Even if I didn't agree, I still enjoyed reading him.
Pearl Harbor.
Where's anastrophe when someone's needed to interpret?
Yes, I miss Anastrophe too. We may have fought like cats and dogs a few times but I don't hold that against him. His posts were great. Even if I didn't agree, I still enjoyed reading him.
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YZGI;636032 wrote: Why Spot? Because it basically vaulted us into the world power?Not at all, I understood that it triggered World War 2.
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spot;636038 wrote: Not at all, I understood that it triggered World War 2.
Spot, I didn't know you were a fisherman.
Spot, I didn't know you were a fisherman.
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YZGI;636041 wrote: Spot, I didn't know you were a fisherman.
You're smooth, you know that?
You're smooth, you know that?
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spot;636044 wrote: You're smooth, you know that?
Well that was some pretty good bait. I'm surprised you haven't caught yourself a bat yet.
Well that was some pretty good bait. I'm surprised you haven't caught yourself a bat yet.
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YZGI;636046 wrote: Well that was some pretty good bait. I'm surprised you haven't caught yourself a bat yet.
No way I'm flappin' into the middle of this...
No way I'm flappin' into the middle of this...
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RedGlitter;635974 wrote: What is the most regrettable event in U.S. history?
How about World history?
In the U.S.? -------- Senator Joseph Mc Carthy Hearings 1954
World History?-----------Germany's attack on Poland
How about World history?
In the U.S.? -------- Senator Joseph Mc Carthy Hearings 1954
World History?-----------Germany's attack on Poland
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RedGlitter;635974 wrote: What is the most regrettable event in U.S. history?
How about World history?
a) From the British point of view, the French.
b) Genetic manipulation of things - this is current news.
How about World history?
a) From the British point of view, the French.
b) Genetic manipulation of things - this is current news.
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Bill Sikes;636075 wrote: a) From the British point of view, the French...
Okay, I nearly sent a snort of bourbon through my nose at that. :wah:
My opinion: Adolph Hitler's rise to power.
Okay, I nearly sent a snort of bourbon through my nose at that. :wah:
My opinion: Adolph Hitler's rise to power.
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There are so many things that clamor to be first on this list, and even more terrible events that I haven't even learned of yet.
Based on what I know however, I would choose the Holocaust as the worst, mainly due to the sheer methodical planning and carrying out of such atrocities. The torture, the experiments, the whole of eugenics.
Not second by any means, but rather riding right on the Nazi coattails, would be black slavery. That human beings thought they had some God given *right* to degrade, torture, sell, encapture, other human beings is unreal to me.
Based on what I know however, I would choose the Holocaust as the worst, mainly due to the sheer methodical planning and carrying out of such atrocities. The torture, the experiments, the whole of eugenics.
Not second by any means, but rather riding right on the Nazi coattails, would be black slavery. That human beings thought they had some God given *right* to degrade, torture, sell, encapture, other human beings is unreal to me.
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spot;636038 wrote: Not at all, I understood that it triggered World War 2.
World War II had been raging since September 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland. Great Britain, France, Australia, and New Zealand declared war on Germany on September 3. Canada delared war on Germany on September 10.
December 7, 1941, the date of the Pearl Harbor attack, was the date Canada declared war on Japan. The United States, Great Britain, China. Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, the Free French, and Yugoslavia declared war on Japan on December 8, 1941.
That was the USA's entry into the war.
World War II had been raging since September 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland. Great Britain, France, Australia, and New Zealand declared war on Germany on September 3. Canada delared war on Germany on September 10.
December 7, 1941, the date of the Pearl Harbor attack, was the date Canada declared war on Japan. The United States, Great Britain, China. Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, the Free French, and Yugoslavia declared war on Japan on December 8, 1941.
That was the USA's entry into the war.
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Richard Bell;636355 wrote: World War II had been raging since September 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland. Great Britain, France, Australia, and New Zealand declared war on Germany on September 3. Canada delared war on Germany on September 10.
December 7, 1941, the date of the Pearl Harbor attack, was the date Canada declared war on Japan. The United States, Great Britain, China. Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, the Free French, and Yugoslavia declared war on Japan on December 8, 1941.
That was the USA's entry into the war.
Bravo Richard.
Pearl Harbor marked the point where what was previously a European war became a World war. We call it World War 2 as a consequence and with hindsight.
ANZACs and Indians deployed in the North African and Greek theatres alongside the British just prior to Pearl Harbor but the inclusion of the Colonies and the Dominions doesn't really qualify what was going on as a World war. Pearl Harbor changed that.
Or are you suggesting that "the USA's entry into the war" would have happened had Japan not attacked the USA?
December 7, 1941, the date of the Pearl Harbor attack, was the date Canada declared war on Japan. The United States, Great Britain, China. Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, the Free French, and Yugoslavia declared war on Japan on December 8, 1941.
That was the USA's entry into the war.
Bravo Richard.
Pearl Harbor marked the point where what was previously a European war became a World war. We call it World War 2 as a consequence and with hindsight.
ANZACs and Indians deployed in the North African and Greek theatres alongside the British just prior to Pearl Harbor but the inclusion of the Colonies and the Dominions doesn't really qualify what was going on as a World war. Pearl Harbor changed that.
Or are you suggesting that "the USA's entry into the war" would have happened had Japan not attacked the USA?
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spot;636382 wrote: Bravo Richard.
Pearl Harbor marked the point where what was previously a European war became a World war. We call it World War 2 as a consequence and with hindsight.
ANZACs and Indians deployed in the North African and Greek theatres alongside the British just prior to Pearl Harbor but the inclusion of the Colonies and the Dominions doesn't really qualify what was going on as a World war. Pearl Harbor changed that.
Or are you suggesting that "the USA's entry into the war" would have happened had Japan not attacked the USA?
This is not accurate. The main protagonists up to 1941 were perhaps the European powers, but this ignores the 1936 invasion of China by the Empire of Japan, and the probable attack upon the British Empire by Imperial Japan, which would have occurred in my opinion whatever happened in Pearl Harbor (in fact it would have been far more likely that the Japanese would have gone further in their destruction of British power in Asia including India, and Australia). Also the June 1941 invasion of Soviet Russia by Nazi Germany, and the inevitable knock ons in the Caucuses, and North Africa made WWII a true world war with or without the involvement of the U.S. The entry of the U.S. simply increased the range and scope of the fighting (as well as increasing the probability that the axis powers would not defeat the British and win the European war in the west, and the East actually as US and British aid was vital for the Russian war effort).
Anyway enough of that, there have been more events than WW II in history. I think there have been many regrettable events, and its depends on your perspective which are the worst. In terms of barbarism, obviously things such as the holocaust, the reigns of terror of Mao, and Stalin, the take over of Europe by the Nazi's and then the Russians, etc etc. From non-western perspectives then the colonization of much of the world by the Europeans and the destruction of indigenous cultures, the depredations of the Mongols, the wars of religion across the world, all that. Its a very subjective thing really, unless you just add up the numbers of humans who have been oppressed and killed throughout history, and even events that are in many ways very positive, usually have a loser, i.e. for many Russians, the collapse of the Soviet Empire was a disaster, but for many others it was an escape, or say the collapse of Byzantium and the loss of Constantinople (or now Istanbul), for the Greeks and Europe a disaster, for the Turks and the Islamic world a triumph, likewise the collapse of Moorish Spain for the Arabs and the indigenous Spanish. Its a complex picture, and its all dependent on your perspective in terms of where you live, whose side you are on, and what period of time you are living in.
Pearl Harbor marked the point where what was previously a European war became a World war. We call it World War 2 as a consequence and with hindsight.
ANZACs and Indians deployed in the North African and Greek theatres alongside the British just prior to Pearl Harbor but the inclusion of the Colonies and the Dominions doesn't really qualify what was going on as a World war. Pearl Harbor changed that.
Or are you suggesting that "the USA's entry into the war" would have happened had Japan not attacked the USA?
This is not accurate. The main protagonists up to 1941 were perhaps the European powers, but this ignores the 1936 invasion of China by the Empire of Japan, and the probable attack upon the British Empire by Imperial Japan, which would have occurred in my opinion whatever happened in Pearl Harbor (in fact it would have been far more likely that the Japanese would have gone further in their destruction of British power in Asia including India, and Australia). Also the June 1941 invasion of Soviet Russia by Nazi Germany, and the inevitable knock ons in the Caucuses, and North Africa made WWII a true world war with or without the involvement of the U.S. The entry of the U.S. simply increased the range and scope of the fighting (as well as increasing the probability that the axis powers would not defeat the British and win the European war in the west, and the East actually as US and British aid was vital for the Russian war effort).
Anyway enough of that, there have been more events than WW II in history. I think there have been many regrettable events, and its depends on your perspective which are the worst. In terms of barbarism, obviously things such as the holocaust, the reigns of terror of Mao, and Stalin, the take over of Europe by the Nazi's and then the Russians, etc etc. From non-western perspectives then the colonization of much of the world by the Europeans and the destruction of indigenous cultures, the depredations of the Mongols, the wars of religion across the world, all that. Its a very subjective thing really, unless you just add up the numbers of humans who have been oppressed and killed throughout history, and even events that are in many ways very positive, usually have a loser, i.e. for many Russians, the collapse of the Soviet Empire was a disaster, but for many others it was an escape, or say the collapse of Byzantium and the loss of Constantinople (or now Istanbul), for the Greeks and Europe a disaster, for the Turks and the Islamic world a triumph, likewise the collapse of Moorish Spain for the Arabs and the indigenous Spanish. Its a complex picture, and its all dependent on your perspective in terms of where you live, whose side you are on, and what period of time you are living in.
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Galbally;636393 wrote: This is not accurate. The main protagonists up to 1939 were perhaps the European powers, but this ignores the 1936 invasion of China by the Empire of Japan, and the probable attack upon the British Empire by Imperial Japan, which would have occurred also the June 1941 invasion of Soviet Russia by Nazi Germany, and the inevitable knock ons in the Caucuses, and North Africa made WWII a true world war with or without the involvement of the U.S. The entry of the U.S. simply increased the range and scope of the fighting (as well as increasing the probability that the axis powers would not defeat the British and win the European war in the west, and the East actually as US and British aid was vital for the Russian war effort.Oh come on now, Gal, you're straining here, the Manchuria invasion was a separate issue entirely as was Japan's extension of it into Northern China. Operation Barbarossa, the June 1941 invasion of Soviet Russia by Nazi Germany, was an entirely European affair. To refer to "North Africa" is to ignore the fact that the Mediterranean Sea is a bound to be an integral part of a European war and its coastline all the way round is inevitably going to be involved when Europe is in flames. There was no attack upon the British Empire by Imperial Japan prior to Pearl Harbor, however "probable" you think it might have become. Until Pearl Harbor there was a war in the European Theatre which spilled onto the coastline of North Africa and involved European participants, some of whom brought in a number of troops in from their colonies and from the Commonwealth, that's a simple statement of fact. Had that remained the extent of it, it couldn't possibly have ended up being called a World War.
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spot;636401 wrote: Oh come on now, Gal, you're straining here, the Manchuria invasion was a separate issue entirely as was Japan's extension of it into Northern China. Operation Barbarossa, the June 1941 invasion of Soviet Russia by Nazi Germany, was an entirely European affair. To refer to "North Africa" is to ignore the fact that the Mediterranean Sea is a bound to be an integral part of a European war and its coastline all the way round is inevitably going to be involved when Europe is in flames. There was no attack upon the British Empire by Imperial Japan prior to Pearl Harbor, however "probable" you think it might have become. Until Pearl Harbor there was a war in the European Theatre which spilled onto the coastline of North Africa and involved European participants, some of whom brought in a number of troops in from their colonies and from the Commonwealth, that's a simple statement of fact. Had that remained the extent of it, it couldn't possibly have ended up being called a World War.
I accept what you are saying as being valid, but European colonies in North Africa are not in Europe by definition, and I think you would accept that the Algerians, Egyptians, the People of Levant, and the Moroccans would agree with that Spot. I think as well, that my take on it in terms of Asia, is that the Japanese policy would have inevitably led to an attack on British possessions, as the post WWI non-existent military policy of London (which seems to have involed immeadiatly dismissing all of the developments and advances that occurred over the course of WW I) led to much of the British Empire being a "sitting duck" for an aggressive military power such as Imperial Japan, and events bore that out in the end. Also IMO, without the attack on Pearl Harbor, and the subsequent U.S. response, the Japanese would almost certainly have invaded Australia, and the Eastern side of British India, (Burma, Bengal etc). What would have happened then is anyone's guess, but its mine that Britain would not have been in much of a position to do anything about it, though India itself would not have been completely invaded as I don't think the Japanese had the capability to do this. But Britain had enough to do trying to survive the war in Europe (which of course was only possible with US financial and then (post 1941) military aid. Again, these are questions of perspective as is much of the interpretation of history, so I am not rubbishing your thesis, I just don't agree with all of it.
I accept what you are saying as being valid, but European colonies in North Africa are not in Europe by definition, and I think you would accept that the Algerians, Egyptians, the People of Levant, and the Moroccans would agree with that Spot. I think as well, that my take on it in terms of Asia, is that the Japanese policy would have inevitably led to an attack on British possessions, as the post WWI non-existent military policy of London (which seems to have involed immeadiatly dismissing all of the developments and advances that occurred over the course of WW I) led to much of the British Empire being a "sitting duck" for an aggressive military power such as Imperial Japan, and events bore that out in the end. Also IMO, without the attack on Pearl Harbor, and the subsequent U.S. response, the Japanese would almost certainly have invaded Australia, and the Eastern side of British India, (Burma, Bengal etc). What would have happened then is anyone's guess, but its mine that Britain would not have been in much of a position to do anything about it, though India itself would not have been completely invaded as I don't think the Japanese had the capability to do this. But Britain had enough to do trying to survive the war in Europe (which of course was only possible with US financial and then (post 1941) military aid. Again, these are questions of perspective as is much of the interpretation of history, so I am not rubbishing your thesis, I just don't agree with all of it.
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all i know is that my late dad fought in world 2.And has a little girl i can remeber him have very bad night mares.I know this not maybe an answer to the question Red.Ijust feel there was alot of lives lost,i think that is the worst thing that has happened in the world,and you know what? it is man made:-1
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I think actually that the declaration of War on Serbia by the Austro Hungarian Empire, following the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, and the subsequent utterly disastrous decisions made by all of the major European powers (including the U.K.) immediately after this event, is quite possible one of the worst series of bad decisions in history, and we are still living with the legacy of the heady days of August 1914 right up to the present day. The 20th century for Europe was a long war in 3 acts, with act one being the Great War or WWI, then WWII, then finally the cold war, which didn't officially end until 1989, and many believes is still not over.
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spot;636382 wrote:
Or are you suggesting that "the USA's entry into the war" would have happened had Japan not attacked the USA?
I think the USA's entry into the war was inevitable.
Although officially neutral, the United States was supplying Great Britain with material and products for the war effort. It would only have been a matter of time before the Nazis decided to retaliate, drawing America into it.
The important point is that the Axis was defeated. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to our parents and grandparents (and even great grandparents for the younger generation) for our freedom.
Or are you suggesting that "the USA's entry into the war" would have happened had Japan not attacked the USA?
I think the USA's entry into the war was inevitable.
Although officially neutral, the United States was supplying Great Britain with material and products for the war effort. It would only have been a matter of time before the Nazis decided to retaliate, drawing America into it.
The important point is that the Axis was defeated. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to our parents and grandparents (and even great grandparents for the younger generation) for our freedom.
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Richard Bell;636637 wrote: Although officially neutral, the United States was supplying Great Britain with material and products for the war effort. It would only have been a matter of time before the Nazis decided to retaliate, drawing America into it.Let me get the hang of this. If Japan hadn't outraged US public opinion at Pearl Harbor to the extent that the US declared war on the Axis powers, Germany would have instead? I think you're grasping at straws there, I've never seen a hint that Germany ever had such an intention. It would have been wildly against their national interest. I've never seen any suggestion that the US would have declared war on the Axis powers without first being directly attacked, either. Has anyone else ever come up with this idea of yours, or is it entirely your own?
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RedGlitter;635974 wrote: What is the most regrettable event in U.S. history?
The election of Bush2?
RedGlitter;635974 wrote: How about World history?
The invention of religion
The election of Bush2?
RedGlitter;635974 wrote: How about World history?
The invention of religion
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Chookie;636803 wrote: The election of Bush2?
That is damnable, isn't it? The re-election is unforgivable. I apologize, but i didn't vote for him either time.
The invention of religion
Is that because of the wars caused by it or something else?
I'm looking at Galbally's posts and that of Spot and the rest of you and I am humbled by not being too familiar with the history you seem to be well versed in. Perhaps I'd have a different answer if I knew more, but I'm not sure.
That is damnable, isn't it? The re-election is unforgivable. I apologize, but i didn't vote for him either time.
The invention of religion
Is that because of the wars caused by it or something else?
I'm looking at Galbally's posts and that of Spot and the rest of you and I am humbled by not being too familiar with the history you seem to be well versed in. Perhaps I'd have a different answer if I knew more, but I'm not sure.
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You got it. In my opinion the wars which have been fought in the name of religion have been responsible for the greatest atrocities (including the Holocaust) ever perperated by the human species.
The point about history is that, and I'm quoting from someone who's name I've forgotten is - "If you do not know history, you are condemned to repeat the same mistakes" (or something similar).
The point about history is that, and I'm quoting from someone who's name I've forgotten is - "If you do not know history, you are condemned to repeat the same mistakes" (or something similar).
An ye harm none, do what ye will....
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Chookie;636803 wrote: The election of Bush2?
The invention of religion
you will burn in invented hell for that buddy :wah: :wah:
The invention of religion
you will burn in invented hell for that buddy :wah: :wah:
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Chookie;637012 wrote:
The point about history is that, and I'm quoting from someone who's name I've forgotten is - "If you do not know history, you are condemned to repeat the same mistakes" (or something similar).
"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it."
-George Santayana
The point about history is that, and I'm quoting from someone who's name I've forgotten is - "If you do not know history, you are condemned to repeat the same mistakes" (or something similar).
"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it."
-George Santayana