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This makes me livid. Wouldn't these men rather have wives who truly desire them and are chomping at the bit to be with them rather than wives who cringe and try to avoid sex at all costs because it hurts?! Doesn't logic dictate that would be a far better time for their men? And yet this practice and all the brainwashing going with it still continues. :mad:

Eritrean custom stronger than law on cutting girls

By Jack KimballMon Jun 11, 6:10 AM ET



For 3-year-old Amira, a law banning female genital mutilation in Eritrea came too late.

Wrapped in an orange traditional dress, Amira's mother, who gives her name only as Gerejet, says she circumcised the child to please her future husband.

"It was the culture that we have taken from our grandmothers, but we also do it for the pleasure of the men," the 30-year-old told Reuters in a small village west of the Eritrean capital.

Like Gerejet and Amira, some 100 million women worldwide have been circumcised, a procedure that at its most extreme involves cutting off the clitoris and external genitalia then stitching the vagina to reduce a woman's sexual desire.

Eritrea banned female genital mutilation (FGM) in April. The government has warned anyone taking part in or promoting the practice faces a fine of several hundred dollars or up to 10 years in jail.

Government officials are optimistic the law will force a change in attitudes but others worry the practice is too ingrained for legal threats to have much impact. About 90 percent of Eritrean woman have undergone the ordeal.

"FGM is a deep-rooted culture and it needs a persistent continuous effort (to halt it)," Luul Ghebreab, president of the National Union of Eritrean Women, told Reuters.

The U.N. Children's Fund, UNICEF, says Eritrea ranks amongst the worst in the world for FGM and a survey by Eritrea's government in 2002 found less than one percent of circumcisions were performed by trained health professionals.

Pirkko Heinonen, the UNICEF representative in Eritrea, says the practice spans Christian and Muslim communities as well as all nine of Eritrea's ethnic groups.

"But we have come to a turning point. It was the exception not to be cut but I think in the younger age group, it is the exception to be cut," she says.

Sitting inside her thatched-roof house, Gerejet believes Eritrean women will welcome the new law. She had circumcised her daughter because no man would marry a girl unless she was cut.

"But nothing will happen to another daughter if she is not cut," Gerejet says in Hagaz, 100 km (62 miles) from Asmara. "We thank God the law was issued. At least the pain will stop."

THE CIRCUMCISER

Government officials say the law banning the practice is only part of a long process of public education dating since Eritrea's 30-year independence struggle from Ethiopia.

"Eritrea is easily manageable, there is a chain system, a village level, the sub-zone, the zonal level. We can control it," said Tesfay Misgna, a health ministry campaigner.

Tesfay said communities have taken a lead in banning the practice: "The legal issues are very vital, because some people need them. But even some villages made their own laws before the government made it."

"By the year 1999, it was 95 percent and then 2003, it was 89 percent. Nowadays we hope it will be less that this."

Meriam Mohamed Omar, a former circumciser, pulls the fabric of her purple dress to mimic external genitalia and sticks a small needle through it.

"I used to use a thin stick from a palm tree. You hold the genitalia in two then cut it," she says.

Meriam says she stopped the practice four years ago after learning of the consequences for a girl. Some 3 million girls are afflicted globally each year, according to the United Nations.

"Most of the time she suffers the pain when she is giving birth, but also during sex," Meriam says.

The United Nations says circumcised women are up to 70 percent more vulnerable to potentially fatal bleeding after delivery. Up to 20 out of every 1,000 babies born in Africa die because their mothers were circumcised.

Aid workers say cultural traditions will be the biggest barrier to eradicating female circumcision. Across the riverbed from Hagaz in the village of Glass, residents say the practice still goes on.

"The people just say they accept (the law), but they really don't," one resident says. Heinonen says the new law is a milestone in the process and agrees there is still much to do.

"It is a very difficult thing to do to your family when you are one of the first ones to stop it," she says.

"It is based on a real fear that if I do not let my daughter to be cut, is she going to be seen as a prostitute?"
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horrific :mad: :mad:
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These men, and it is a fing crime to call them that; don't care about a woman who wants to be with them. They just want a receptacle. These girls would never want these kinds of devils regardless, and they know that. All these monsters want is to make sure they never do "want" anyone else. If I could I would strangle the God damned life out of every one of them, give them CPR and then strangle them again. Sorry for the language, but this issue raises such a blood boiling distress in me it makes me ill.
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Very distressing and hope something is done to completely out law this, very sad indeed.:mad:
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Puts a different light on the phrase "A woman's right to choose" does it not.
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This makes me wonder if foot binding still goes on in distant parts of China.:thinking:

Like you Red i cannot get my head around why men would want women mutilated in this way or their feet to be 8 inches long, perhaps the men here could offer some insight?
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Here's a few reasons for the footbinding, i can only presume its the same for FMG :mad: Makes you sick as to what goes on in a man's mind.

Footbinding deepened female subjugation by making women more dependent on their men folk, restricting their movements and enforcing their chastity, since women with bound feet were physically incapable of venturing far from their homes.

Certainly the "three-inch golden lotuses" were seen as the ultimate erogenous zone, with Qing dynasty pornographic books listing 48 different ways of playing with women's bound feet.

source http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=8966942
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buttercup;639874 wrote: Makes you sick as to what goes on in a man's mind.




Careful please.
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Given the subject matter of this thread i dont think that statement is uncalled for or out of line. If i was saying all men are sick period that would be different.
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When a woman drowns her five kids, or hangs them all including herself; I never ask the question, "makes you wonder what goes on in a woman's mind". I ain't trying to pick on you or anyone else, but seeing the word "man" me being one, then to have it lumped together with the monsters that do this upsets me.
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KB i am not picking on you either but your comparison is not very good, women drowning or hanging themselves is not a custom that goes on through decades as this subject does. If you can pinpoint something that women insist on without pressure from men that is as barbaric as this i will be more than happy to give my thoughts as a woman on why they do it.
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Well, I am glad that I can find no reason to do what these monsters did; even if I am a man. I can give you reasons why they would do it as inhuman beasts, but not as men. I did give a reason for it as a matter of fact.
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KB.;640011 wrote: When a woman drowns her five kids, or hangs them all including herself; I never ask the question, "makes you wonder what goes on in a woman's mind". I ain't trying to pick on you or anyone else, but seeing the word "man" me being one, then to have it lumped together with the monsters that do this upsets me.


She was speaking in general context...
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K.Snyder;640141 wrote: She was speaking in general context...


I understand that; like I said I wasn't picking on her. The general context bothers me is all. When I read "in a man's mind" it is totally different that when I read, "in the minds of these men.". It is the way I think, can't change that, and I still think it is a crime to call them men. It doesn't matter, it is off topic from the thread. I apologize for being obtuse. Carry on, I'll wander around in Lyric threads and the writing forum before I get myself in trouble.
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KB.;639768 wrote: These men


As far as I'm aware this practice is embedded in the culture and was at least perpetuated by women.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... ds=1785274

There's more information from the RCN (and others, of course).

http://www.rcn.org.uk/publications/pdf/ ... lation.pdf

Only one variation of this practice seems equivalent to Western male circumcision, other variations are not equivalent at all.
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Bill's right. Is it perpetuated by the women. If they would stand up and refuse things would be changing. That a woman would do this to her own daughter knowing the pain and suffering it will cause, is criminal in itself.

It's hard for this free American woman to comprehend "if I'm not cut no one will marry me." I'd be like "BFD!" But then that's because my survival depends on no man so I just can't get that.
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I'v heard of FGM and omg it makes me so sick.Its a horrific thing to have happen.I hope and pray to God that it stops :(
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