who is up 4 chinese food?

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:44 am

Thats horrible Jess

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:45 am

SuzyB;641656 wrote: Thats horrible Jess

o so sorry

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:31 am

I think this guy's pretty funny, the e - bay song's the best & his like a virgin / surgeon's pretty good too :wah:

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:39 am

Okay, I thought the taco man was talking about Chinese. Whew.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:42 am

I thought it was another FG euphemism for something dirty.....:sneaky:

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:28 am

the song is hilarious.

had to change the title though, LG

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:27 pm

koan;641771 wrote: the song is hilarious.

had to change the title though, LG

it is only racist if it is used in a derogertive sence

chinese food is often refurd to as the title of this

thread so feel you had no right or basis to alter it

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:51 pm

el guapo;641886 wrote: it is only racist if it is used in a derogertive sence

chinese food is often refurd to as the title of this

thread so feel you had no right or basis to alter it

In the United Kingdom, a chinky (alternatively known as a chinky chonky[1]) is a Chinese takeaway restaurant, or the meal that one buys from such a restaurant. The name "chinky" is the adjectival form of chink, and like chink is an ethnic slur for Chinese people.[2] After several campaigns by the Scottish Executive, more people in Scotland now acknowledge that this name is indirectly racialist.[3] However the BBC Broadcasting Standards Commission held in 2002 that when used as the name of a type of restaurant or meal, rather than as an adjective applied to a person or group of people, the word carries no racialist connotation.[4] These restaurants are known for serving food that no native of China would recognize as Chinese food.[5] Stereotypically, their food is cheap, and the restaurants themselves the subjects of popular prejudice that, according to Gill,[6] makes it "difficult to improve the quality and sophistication of the dishes, or to charge more".

so i can see nothing wrong with title

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:41 pm

el guapo;641900 wrote: In the United Kingdom, a chinky (alternatively known as a chinky chonky[1]) is a Chinese takeaway restaurant, or the meal that one buys from such a restaurant. The name "chinky" is the adjectival form of chink, and like chink is an ethnic slur for Chinese people.[2] After several campaigns by the Scottish Executive, more people in Scotland now acknowledge that this name is indirectly racialist.[3] However the BBC Broadcasting Standards Commission held in 2002 that when used as the name of a type of restaurant or meal, rather than as an adjective applied to a person or group of people, the word carries no racialist connotation.[4] These restaurants are known for serving food that no native of China would recognize as Chinese food.[5] Stereotypically, their food is cheap, and the restaurants themselves the subjects of popular prejudice that, according to Gill,[6] makes it "difficult to improve the quality and sophistication of the dishes, or to charge more".

so i can see nothing wrong with title

It appears to be a split opinion on the matter.

Ultimately it is up to the mods if we consider the word offensive.

I'm not saying you meant to use it as a slur. I'm just saying you used a word that FG isn't friendly with.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:43 pm

Yeah El Burrito. That would be like saying Canuck food. Ooops.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:51 pm

Soberano;641942 wrote: I'm with you on this one YZGI, you wouldn't say lets go for a woppy if you were off to an Italian restaurant would you. Behave el guapo.:wah:
If Chinese = Chinky does that mean British= Britney

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:53 pm

nevertheless I love parody and the song linked to in the OP is really funny. I ended up singing the real version while I was out watering the plants

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:54 pm

koan;641945 wrote: nevertheless I love parody and the song linked to in the OP is really funny. I ended up singing the real version while I was out watering the plants
Marijuana plants I presume.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:57 pm

we've had a few storms pass through but not enough to keep the flowers from drooping without some gardening assistance.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:12 pm

Soberano;641955 wrote: I thought i might swim out and have a look at mine tomorrow.

It's raining here again, maybe you ought to wait, they'll float in to you tomorrow!

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:14 pm

Soberano;641942 wrote: I'm with you on this one YZGI, you wouldn't say lets go for a woppy if you were off to an Italian restaurant would you. Behave el guapo.:wah:

Well I for one have never heard of anyone going to the "Chinese Resteraunt" unless their taking a client - it's always going for a chinky even in those who would be aghast if anyone call a Chinese person that.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:42 pm

Soberano;641995 wrote: I go to a Chinese restaurant, not a chinky. No wait, i dont eat that crap anyhow, forget that.

Same here, I don't have the Chinese food gene nor do I have the sweet gene.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:56 pm

Bryn Mawr;641964 wrote: Well I for one have never heard of anyone going to the "Chinese Resteraunt" unless their taking a client - it's always going for a chinky even in those who would be aghast if anyone call a Chinese person that.

In N America we say going out for Chinese or Chinese take out.

I don't doubt that it was used in a non racist way but it doesn't change that this is a multinational board and just because the adaptation of the slur has been adopted by the UK as acceptable doesn't mean that it isn't a slur to the rest of the world. It's about the word not the person who used it.

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:59 am

koan;642016 wrote: In N America we say going out for Chinese or Chinese take out.

I don't doubt that it was used in a non racist way but it doesn't change that this is a multinational board and just because the adaptation of the slur has been adopted by the UK as acceptable doesn't mean that it isn't a slur to the rest of the world. It's about the word not the person who used it.

cant agree there in respect to food it is not an ethenic slur sorry but ya wrong

ya qoute wilkpedia but that states in food the word chinky is in no way racist

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:12 am

el guapo;642268 wrote: cant agree there in respect to food it is not an ethenic slur sorry but ya wrong

ya qoute wilkpedia but that states in food the word chinky is in no way racist

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz= ... tnG=Search

There's no definition for Chinky, and considering the topic I'm guessing you weren't referencing that of a crack or a sound so I wouldn't be so quick in deeming people wrong...

Besides she's already voiced her reasoning on the fact that she felt that what had been posted didn't reflect the integrity of ForumGarden...

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:18 am

K.Snyder;642272 wrote: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz= ... tnG=Search

There's no definition for Chinky, and considering the topic I'm guessing you weren't referencing that of a crack or a sound so I wouldn't be so quick in deeming people wrong...

I take that back...

There is a definition for Chinky...

AVOID. A derogatory term for a Chinese person, also Chinkey, Chinkie, Chinky. The term is thought to have come from a mispronunciation of the Chinese word Chung-Kuo, meaning China.

Post by **spot** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:24 am

el guapo;642268 wrote: cant agree there in respect to food it is not an ethenic slur sorry but ya wrong

ya qoute wilkpedia but that states in food the word chinky is in no way racist

The Oxford English Dictionary is quite explicit about acceptable usage.

Chink, noun: A Chinaman. Also attributed (Derogatory).

Chinkey, Chinkie, Chinky = Chink, noun (Derogatory).

Chinese, adjective and noun, colloquial (chiefly British): A meal served at a Chinese restaurant; (also) a Chinese takeaway meal. A restaurant serving Chinese food.examples:

1985 Washington Post 13 Jan: That night, a Friday, we gathered in front of the set..with take-out Chinese.

1997 Sunday Post (Glasgow) 4 May: We sort of exist on takeaways. There's a Chinese and a new Indian just opened down the road.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:30 am

YZGI;641996 wrote: Same here, I don't have the Chinese food gene nor do I have the sweet gene.

you have to try my favorite buffet place if you ever visit San Antonio! And if you hate everything they do have a BBQ section with steaks, etc. so it's all good!

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:32 am

sunny104;642372 wrote: you have to try my favorite buffet place if you ever visit San Antonio! And if you hate everything they do have a BBQ section with steaks, etc. so it's all good!

I want to try :yh_drool :yh_drool

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:34 am

if you go for a tex mex is that offensive to wise guy and pals

snigger

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:55 am

You could have just changed the title to 'weird al yankovic video' would have saved a lot of trouble.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:57 am

jimbo;642377 wrote: if you go for a tex mex is that offensive to wise guy and pals

snigger
My point was. Nothing is offensive to me.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:59 am

buttercup;642396 wrote: You could have just changed the title to 'weird al yankovic video' would have saved a lot of trouble.

the fingers still trouble you then :wah: :wah:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:03 am

SuzyB;642374 wrote: I want to try :yh_drool :yh_drool

oh, you'd have to!! I LOVE this place, they have everything! :yh_drool

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:18 am

if the title of this thread seemed racist was not ment too

now there is a but it is a common way of refuring to a chinese take away

so i cannot see y it had to be changed

this forum has people from all over the world we all use english here mostly but with differant areas twist on it next we will all be correcting the most innocent post

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:43 am

cheers for ya words in the chinese tread it just koan having a go at me again

im not well liked here she is just trying to make things worse

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:53 am

el guapo;642461 wrote: cheers for ya words in the chinese tread it just koan having a go at me again

im not well liked here she is just trying to make things worse
Calm down El Gumpo, You are taking this way too seriously. It aint no big deal one way or the other. Trust me there are better fights more worth it than this. Besides if we get the China persons after us they could send 1 billion soldiers to wipe us out and not even miss them.:wah:

Post by **spot** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:53 am

el guapo;642461 wrote: cheers for ya words in the chinese tread it just koan having a go at me again

im not well liked here she is just trying to make things worseThat's quite unjustified. She made a perfectly good call in my opinion.

I'll copy this from our PMs since it's relevant and you're continuing to push the issue regardless of other comment:If you have a look at a more recent report like http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/rad...r/language.pdf (OFCOM's Language and Sexual Imagery in Broadcasting: A contextual Investigation) you'll find this, which might explain why some people think one way and some another:Chink: A term of racial offence/abuse. However, this is polarising. Older and mainly white groups tend to think this is not usually used in an abusive way - e.g. let's go to the Chinky - which is not seen as offensive; younger groups and those from ethnic minorities feel this could be as insulting as 'paki' or 'nigger'.The site rules say "Please do not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, racist, sexist, discriminatory, or otherwise violative of any local or international laws. This includes links in your signature, profile, bookmarks as well as posted images, photos and avatars. Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not".

"Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not" is the key phrase there.

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:57 am

spot;642469 wrote: That's quite unjustified. She made a perfectly good call in my opinion.

I'll copy this from our PMs since it's relevant and you're continuing to push the issue regardless of other comment:If you have a look at a more recent report like http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/rad...r/language.pdf (OFCOM's Language and Sexual Imagery in Broadcasting: A contextual Investigation) you'll find this, which might explain why some people think one way and some another:Chink: A term of racial offence/abuse. However, this is polarising. Older and mainly white groups tend to think this is not usually used in an abusive way - e.g. let's go to the Chinky - which is not seen as offensive; younger groups and those from ethnic minorities feel this could be as insulting as 'paki' or 'nigger'.The site rules say "Please do not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, racist, sexist, discriminatory, or otherwise violative of any local or international laws. This includes links in your signature, profile, bookmarks as well as posted images, photos and avatars. Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not".

"Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not" is the key phrase there.

she made a big deal of some thing that was not last post i here was ment to be pm to some one but pc is playing up could not deleate it

as ya post ya rule ya wana check out some other posts on here

Post by **spot** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:59 am

el guapo;642475 wrote: she made a big deal of some thing that was not last post i here was ment to be pm to some one but pc is playing up could not deleate it

as ya post ya rule ya wana check out some other posts on here
Report any and all that you see. Each will be looked at by whatever mod is active at the time.

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:59 am

also if you think i was being racist ban me

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:01 am

el guapo;642477 wrote: also if you think i was being racist ban me
Get an El Grippo dude. Not a big deal.

Post by **spot** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:03 am

el guapo;642477 wrote: also if you think i was being racist ban me

We have a graded response with several options. Banning is the most severe. Infractions are milder, warnings milder still. Editing to remove exceptional content is the mildest of the lot. Continually arguing with the referee probably rates an infraction eventually, if that's helpful.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:03 am

YZGI;642480 wrote: Get an El Grippo dude.

that's private!

but yeah, I agree! no biggie, if we were that PC we'd all be banned!! :wah:

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:04 am

spot;642484 wrote: We have a graded response with several options. Banning is the most severe. Infractions are milder, warnings milder still. Editing to remove exceptional content is the mildest of the lot. Continually arguing with the referee probably rates an infraction eventually, if that's helpful.
Was that a yellow card?

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:07 am

guys this is all getting out of hand ,honestly people does it really matter ,jess i know it was not meant as a ray shawl slur

and the mods know that but if they feel it might offend someone they can change it ,i've had loads of things changed and posts deleted and been asked to change siggy things its not personal buddy

its the rules ,these rules are made so that people like me yzgi and soberanal are protected from ourselves we could post stuff we find funny but others could get really upset over

that said the thread was funny

had me spring rolling up

i know you did not chow mien to offend any one but you had better learn to crispy duck when the flack starts frying :wah:

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:13 am

These things can go either way. They can be sweet and sour at times.

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:13 am

I persionally used too say 'going for a chinky' when talking about getting a chinese take-away. I never used the term as being offensive - nor is anyone else here as far as I can make out.

At the end of the day, if it is likely to offend someone then probably best not to use term. Mods call at the end of the day.